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00:19 < esden> cu guys
00:20 -!- esden is now known as esden|zZz
00:20 < daja77> cu esden|zZz 
02:26 < mnemoc> rehi
02:28 < rxr> rehi mnemoc !
02:37 < mnemoc> hi rxr :)
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03:18 < rxr> yeah - me layouting a letter since too many minutes (accumulated to > 1 hour alredy)
03:18 < rxr> damn (La)TeX crap
03:21 -!- esden|zZz is now known as esden
03:21 < esden> hi ho
03:21 < esden> finally at home in munich ..
03:21 < esden> nice
03:23 < esden> ok ... good night
03:23 -!- esden is now known as esden|zZz
03:25  * fake once again astonished by the meaninglessnes of pressure in movies
03:26 < esden|zZz> fake: which film has astonished you this time?
03:26 < fake> deep blue sea
03:26 < fake> they easily manage to close a door that has ~100 bar pressure applied from the outer side
03:27 < esden|zZz> humm ... have not seen that one ... but I thought that is a good one
03:27 < fake> well, it's o.k.
03:27 < esden|zZz> lol
03:27 < esden|zZz> 100 bar is ... erm ... a LOT
03:27 < fake> i don't have to say that opening it was as easy.
03:28 < fake> their 'trommelfelle' seem to be immune against pressure peaks
03:29 < esden|zZz> that is a film ... that is the same as hearing sounds in outer space ... and such ;)
03:29 < fake> oh, and the sharks know how to handle gas ovens
03:29 < fake> esden|zZz: that just becuase of the subspace interferences!
03:29 < esden|zZz> they are intelligent ... you must not forget that ... and they are beasts ;)
03:31 < fake> .oO( a space station would make for a perfect band room! )
03:32 < esden|zZz> yes you can not go on anyone nerves?
03:32 -!- esden|zZz is now known as esden
03:32 < fake> yes - but i think the idea to use old bunkers is more efficient ;)
03:33 < esden> it is surely easier to get there 
03:33 < fake> but in orbit, energy is cheaper!
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03:34 < fake> oh boy, i f34r their 3v1l d00r 0p3n1ng sk1llz!
03:35 < esden> you get more from the solar cells ... but still ... I think the life support is eating more then the plus you get in outer space
03:35 < esden> ;)
03:35 < fake> that may be true
03:35 < fake> plus i don't think you can get drugs around the next corner up there...
03:36 < fake> ... no 24/7 pit stops...
03:36 < fake> no fast food...
03:36 < esden> but you can get out and it is as on drugs ... floating above earth free like ... a bird 
03:37 < fake> a bird that high? messy feeling
03:37 < fake> feeling like a dead bird.. wee!
03:37 < esden> you do not need so much to eat ... you do not need so much energy to move in lo gravity
03:37 < esden> humm ... I think we need to make a checklist to make a formal comparison ;)
03:38 < fake> *g*
03:38 < fake> pop stars don't need to do stupid diets anymore, they weigh nothing anyway in 0-grav!
03:39 < esden> not zero ... but near to zero gravity ;)
03:39 < fake> we could make the axis rotation adjustable, then they could adjust their weight *g*
03:39 < esden> that is an idea!
03:40 < fake> computer voice: "good morning! how much do you want to weigh today?"
03:40 < esden> "30 pounds please"
03:41 < esden> that is something for many women on earth
03:41 < esden> we should patent that ... we will be RICH
03:41 < fake> 30 pounds? you are bizarre...
03:41 < fake> "Ihr wunschgewicht - nach nur 3 jahren astronautenausbildung!"
03:45 < esden> "sage mal ... aber mal ehrlich - sehe ich in diesem anzug fett aus?"
03:45 < fake> *ROFL*
03:45 < fake> *beep* over
03:45 < esden> I always think about that sentence when I think about space and women
03:46 < fake> the hardest thing must be that they all have to wear the same suits *gg*
03:46 < esden> yes ... sure "you slut you wear the same sute as I do - but it makes you look fat" ;)
03:47 < fake> ah... women. unfortunate owl isn't here to participate ;)
03:47 < esden> ROFL
03:47 < esden> yes
03:49 < esden> that would be fun ... for sure ... she would try to kick us all the time ... or so
03:51  * fake going wardriving
03:52 < rxr> fake: invested into a buly to get rid of the flatline ?
03:53 < fake> rxr: *lol* no, i'll stay with my wired connection for now
03:53 < fake> rxr: flar_rate_, if i had a flatline, i'd not be here ...
03:53 < esden> humm ... nice film "Solino"
03:53 < rxr> ah - so only wardriving when you need s.th. illegal - like the Linux source code?
03:54 < esden> have you seen it guys?
03:54 < fake> rxr: no, just creating maps
03:54  * fake innocent angel
03:54 < esden> fake is stealing SCO property ... one moment I have to make a call ;)
03:54 < rxr> fake: but when you are at it - a copy of Linux would be cool ;-)
03:54 < fake> rxr: no, it's too hot... i'm not into such stuff...
03:54 < rxr> esden: yeah - and I have a Caldera Linux license, too ;-)!
03:55 < fake> rxr: maybe i could interest you for some snuff instead? *G*
03:55  * fake just kidding
03:55 < esden> wooow ... where am I ... in a leacher channel or what?
03:55 < rxr> I heared there are even crazzy people building CD distributions on this "code"
03:56 < fake> rxr: must be mad, evil beings
03:56 < esden> how ill! *sigh* they seem to like jail or so
03:56  * fake brb
03:57 < esden> humm, I really should go to bed now ... I still have to drive back to IN tomorrow and get the stuff I forgot there >_<
03:58 < rxr> esden: btw, if you have not yet used ICC on your C++ project, do not waste your time with it - I played arround with it the last days, and it often mis-optimizes
03:58 < rxr> neither openssl nor Botan have passed make {check,test}
03:58 < esden> ok guys .. I whish you a good night and nice sleep
03:58 < rxr> yeah - nice sleep to u2
03:58 < esden> rxr: it is compiling our code without problems
03:58 < rxr> esden: compilign yes
03:58 < rxr> esden: passing {checks,test} no ...
03:59 < esden> humm not good
03:59 < esden> ok thanks for the informatikon rxr
03:59 < rxr> some code works - e.g. GnuPG, openssl, Botan and GSMP are mis-compiled
03:59 < rxr> mis-optimized
03:59 < rxr> I even got cases of floating point exceptions ...
03:59 < esden> yuck
03:59 < esden> not good
04:00 < esden> have you informed the guys at intel about that?
04:00 < rxr> not yet, need to register for premium support if this is possible to get for the non-commecial version
04:00 < esden> I also found a bug in compilation some time ago ... it has a bug in explicit template instantiation
04:00 < rxr> and I'm not sure if they will listen if they head it is run on a Athlon-XP ...
04:01 < esden> ohh perhups that is the problem
04:01 < esden> not the compiler itself ;)
04:02 < rxr> I doubt this
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04:09 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 2.0.0 released! http://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html
04:09 -!- Topic set by SMP [] [Mon Mar  8 02:33:41 2004]
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04:09 [ blindy   ] [ Freak    ] [ luckz    ] [ nookie_] [ snyke   ] [ Vroum] 
04:09 [ daja77   ] [ Frederic ] [ mistik1  ] [ owl    ] [ tfing   ] 
04:09 [ dsoul    ] [ kasc     ] [ mnemoc   ] [ rolla  ] [ th_     ] 
04:09 [ esden|zZz] [ Lorini   ] [ netcrow  ] [ rxr    ] [ togg    ] 
04:09 [ fake     ] [ LowLander] [ netrunner] [ SMP    ] [ valentin] 
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04:26 < rxr> damn
04:26 < rxr> gs does seg-fault on PowerPC - maybe due to gcc-3.4
04:27 < rxr> this is the first real gcc-3.4 issue I found
04:27  * rxr powering up UltraSPARC to print on a USB printer
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04:34 < _MadTux> moin.
04:35 < _MadTux> Lorini, awake?
04:44 < rxr> moin mistik1 
04:45 < rxr> _MadTux: even
04:45 < _MadTux> oh hey Rene ;-)
04:47 < rxr> yeah - setting up my business letters in LaTeX took me awake
04:47 < rxr> but I'm in bed in some seconds
04:47 < rxr> need to be up and to the post office in 5 hours ...
04:48 < _MadTux> oh
04:48 < _MadTux> so have a nice sleep rxr
04:49 < rxr> mistik1: and when you scrollback - I used the U5 for USB printing
04:49 < rxr> due to seg-faulting ghostscript on the iBook ... ;-)
04:50 < _MadTux> wee nice
04:50 < _MadTux> rxr, so does it mean there are isos? :)
04:50 < rxr> no :-(
04:50 < rxr> but there are nearly ISOs ..
04:50 < rxr> I even had not the time to test the 100% finished PowerPC ones yet ...
04:50 < _MadTux> good.
04:51 < rxr> I do this after my current commercial article finished (need money for bills ...)
04:51 < _MadTux> no big rush.. currently extremly busy with trying to get the patch queue done on elks..
04:51 < rxr> so - good n8 everyone ;-)
04:51 < _MadTux> sleep well Rene
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06:29 < fake> today is mailinglist-membership-reminder-day!
06:54 < netrunner> moin
06:54 < netrunner> oh i c
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07:55 < Lorini> moin
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08:20 < blindy> moin
08:52 < Vroum> moin
09:06 < netrunner> _this_ is a cpu fan: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=16247
09:09 < blindy> SHIT
09:09 < blindy> that's no fan, that's a jet engine!
09:52 < rxr> moin
09:52 < daja77> hi rxr 
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10:23 < rxr> hi daja77 
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10:38 -!- Topic set by SMP [] [Mon Mar  8 02:33:41 2004]
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10:38 < rxr> re
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10:39 < daja77> qsc? thought they can't sell to you?
10:39 < rxr> daja77: the irssi is not on my home box ..
10:39 < daja77> ic
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10:41 -!- Topic set by SMP [] [Mon Mar  8 02:33:41 2004]
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10:55  * netrunner might have found a solution to all those bootup hangs ...
10:56 < rxr> netrunner: please post details
10:56  * rxr off to post office
10:57 < netrunner> rxr: it seems that it is related to the bios reporting wrong memory layout to the kernel, the following just helped me here:
10:57 < netrunner> linux mem=exactmap mem=640k@0 mem=896m@1M
10:58 < netrunner> oh, now I know why it hung thereafter, the second memory needs to be $mem-1 :(
10:59 < netrunner> I helped a proliant 5000 to boot with this. can verify it with my non-booting gateway @home tonight
11:08 < netrunner> http://www.reality-inc.com/df/idle-2.jpg :)
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11:25 < blindy> can _someone_ make this image into an ascii art to use as a motd?
11:25 < netrunner> python 2.3.4 released.
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16:08 < rxr> re
16:10 < daja77> wb
16:12 < rxr> hi daja77 
16:12 < mnemoc> moin
16:12 < rxr> moin mnemoc 
16:12 < mnemoc> rxr: change $topic ;)
16:13 < Vroum> :)
16:13 < Vroum> 2.0.1 !!
16:13 < Vroum> :)
16:13 < rxr> mnemoc: me is no op here ...
16:13 < rxr> esden|zZz: ?
16:14 < mnemoc> oh
16:14 < rxr> esden and others are registered as op
16:15 < rxr> http://www.linuxcentral.com/_v3/
16:15 < rxr> ^- ROCK Linux @
16:16 < daja77> rxr: hm you had op in this chan
16:16 < rxr> not that I'm aware off ...
16:16 < rxr> and if - how do I test this ?
16:16 < daja77>  /msg chanserv op #rocklinux rxr
16:17 < rxr> and the other problem is that I do not my rxr authentification anymore ...
16:17 < daja77> ok this seems to be the problem
16:17 < rxr> Password identification is required for
16:17 < daja77> but you could register again
16:17 < rxr> the last time I tried the thing said one need two month of inactivity to do so ...
16:18 < daja77> or you just forgot your password
16:18 < rxr> jup - I have to many of them
16:18 < rxr> the ones I never need are rot over time ...
16:18 < daja77> maybe you could ask in #freenode for help
16:18 < rxr> too many even
16:19 < rxr> I have a pass on my hidden passwd paper - but the last time it did not work ...
16:19 < daja77> hm
16:19 < rxr> huh?
16:19 < rxr> Password accepted - you are now recognized
16:19 < daja77> :)
16:20 < rxr> the last time (6 months ago) I tried all spelling variants
16:20 < daja77> k. now try the op thing
16:20 < rxr> and now it did worked the firt time ?!?!?
16:20 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o rxr] by ChanServ
16:20 <@rxr> oh
16:20 <@rxr> cool
16:20 < daja77> :D
16:20 -!- rxr changed the topic of #rocklinux to: ROCK Linux 2.0.1 released! http://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html
16:21 <@rxr> http://www.linuxcentral.com/catalog/?prod_code=L000-239&id=C1Ch7JnRuA4Cm
16:23 < blindy> list price:
16:23 < blindy> $14.95
16:23 < blindy> didn't know we had a list price :)(
16:23  * rxr neither
16:24 <@rxr> I said they should sell it for production cost + handling efford and we agreed on $6.95 - I guess this and advertise thingy ...
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16:24 <@rxr> this is an even
16:24  * rxr drove to much bicycle these days ... ;-)
16:25 < blindy> why so?
16:25 < mnemoc> any qmail guru? SMP?
16:25 < blindy> "Muskelkater"?
16:25 <@rxr> blindy: why advertice - or why bicycle ?
16:25 < blindy> rxr: bicycle
16:26  * mnemoc doing dirty thing's on qmail's queue :(
16:28 < mnemoc> things*
16:31 <@rxr> just so - faster then public transport - and some relaxing to balance the sitting around here ...
16:31 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o rxr] by rxr
16:32  * daja77 shoudl try building rtrock with gcc-3.4
16:34 < blindy> rxr: I see. Thought too much bycicling so you got a Muskelkater or something :)
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16:36 < rolla> re
16:39 < rxr> blindy: nope - just puffed out
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16:53 < esden> rxr: what do you need from me?
16:53 < daja77> hi esden
16:53 < blindy> moin esden 
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17:01 < esden> hi guys
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17:08 < tcr> moin all
17:13 < mnemoc> moin tcr, esden, daja77 
17:14 < esden> hi tcr mnemoc 
17:14 < tcr> Yeah, hi
17:18 < rxr> hi esden 
17:18 < rxr> just talked abou /topic change - I thought I do not have the permissions
17:18 < rxr> but I had ...
17:18 < rxr> esden: so all solved ;-)
17:20 < esden> I think everyone has permissions for that ...
17:20 < daja77> only ps
17:20 < daja77> ops
17:21 < esden> humm ... ok so I have protected it ...
17:21 < esden> humm
17:21 < mnemoc> esdentem, can you add rxr to op list? ;)
17:22 < daja77> he is already in it
17:29 < mnemoc> =p
18:00 < netrunne1> rumpel
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18:01 < esden> tolpatsch ;)
18:12 < mnemoc> rxr: desktop-master what do i need to use a digital camara on rock? (cannon a10)
18:14 < daja77> mount it or use gphoto2
18:16 < mnemoc> kernel stuff?
18:18 < netrunner> mnemoc: usb drivers :)
18:18 < mnemoc> nice :)
18:19 < christian_> gtetrinet? join: tuxipuxi.homelinux.org
18:20 < daja77> O_o
18:21 < mnemoc> uhm?
18:21 < christian_> he :) 
18:21 < christian_> if you want you can join :)= 
18:21 < daja77> don't think so
18:22 < christian_> yeh okay. but you are not everyone
18:22 < daja77> not yet
18:22 < christian_> o_O
18:22 < mnemoc> =)
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18:51 < netrunner> damn, I shouldn't always make so many sandwiches 
18:54 < netrunner> fear. http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/24879.htm
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19:03  * netrunner just stumbled over cdr's with ROCK 1.7 written on them ...
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19:37  * netrunner using his old 1.7 cd to boot the unwilling mmx ...
19:40 < rxr> re
19:41 < Vroum> re rxr
19:41 < rxr> mnemoc: either it is a usb-storage device and can be mounted from /dev/scsi
19:41 < rxr> mnemoc: or you need gphoto
19:42 < rxr> mnemoc: for gphoto you can either use a CLI (gphoto) to retriebve the images, or use gtkam or kde konqueror
19:42 < rxr> mnemoc: in konqueror just camera:// or kamera:// (do not remember exactly
19:43 < rxr> mnemoc: for gphoto there is also a clool stand-alone app for kde but I forgot the name and we do not (yet) have it in rock
19:56 < netrunner> hi rxr
19:57 < netrunner> the proliant that hung after Found Compressed Ramdisk at ... was helped with the mem=exactmap mem=640k@0 mem=895M@1M
19:57 < netrunner> but my gateway had a problem at a later point, hung after freeing unused kernel memory
19:58 < netrunner> I accidently learned that it boots fine with 1.7 boot cds, so I used them.
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20:17 < rolla> there much better
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21:05 < rxr> cool:
21:05 < rxr> Eclipse 2.x will run out of the box using gij
21:05 < rxr> if this is true it would ROCK
21:06 < rxr> anyone here wanna trying this out on ROCK Linux? It would ROCK if we had a 100% open source (non Sun Java needing) Eclipse package !!!
21:06 < rxr> ^- ehrm. the above was from gcc-3.4.0 - previous gcc's will not work ...
21:08 < daja77> sounds cool
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21:20 < rxr> daja77: wanna try it?
21:21 < daja77> is there a submaster patch
21:23 < netrunner> rxr: maybe it gets even usable at comfortable speed then :)
21:23 < netrunner> rxr: package already finished?
21:25 < SMP> eclipse is quite fast already ...
21:25 < SMP> thanks to not using Swing ...
21:27 < rxr> netrunner: what package? Eclipse? No, I have not time to play with it ...
21:27 < rxr> SMP: I never tried to use it (after all I do not had a usable open-source java up to gcc-3.4 or so) but I read it uses this own native code toolkit ...
21:28 < rxr> but as OpenOffice, Eclipse is a nice suite to have in ROCK Linux ...
21:28 < rxr> daja77: I measnt try building eclipse - I have not tried it yet - just read it ...
21:28 < netrunner> anybody has a finished hostap package or do I have to continue my fight?
21:29 < daja77> so you looking for someone who package this thing?
21:33 < daja77> oh how do I create a kernel.conf.m4?
21:37 < daja77> k. think I got it
21:37 < daja77> trained m4 with autoconf today >_<
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21:41 < rxr> daja77: exactly ;-)
21:41  * rxr looking for someone to try this gcj adventure out
21:42 < daja77> is it a big package?
21:43 < SMP> it's not for you if you have to ask
21:45 < netrunne1> the idea of a speedy eclipse tickles me.
21:45 < netrunne1> maybe when my new notebook arrived.
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21:47 < daja77> SMP: i have no java development atm indeed, but i could try if it builds just for fun, if I don't need hours to download ;-)
22:02 < mnemoc> rxr: all clear :) thanks
22:02 < mnemoc> rehi ;)
22:03 < rxr> mnemoc: hi
22:04 < netrunner> clever alternatives to if [ $( echo $PWD | grep specialdir ) ]; ... ?
22:07 < rxr> netrunner: [ "${$PWD/specialdir/}" != "$PWD" ]
22:07 < rxr> oh - of course
22:07 < rxr> netrunner: [ "${PWD/specialdir/}" != "$PWD" ]
22:11 < rxr> new preleminary bench result:
22:11 < rxr> http://rocklinux-consulting.de/stat-rt-athlon.png
22:11 < rxr> http://rocklinux-consulting.de/stat-bt-athlon.png
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22:18 < nzg> moin
22:18 < mnemoc> moin nzg 
22:18 < nzg> hi mnemoc
22:19 < mnemoc> rxr: those benchmarks are a great reason to _not_ build in final machine :)
22:20 < netrunner> rxr: it's more about a substring.
22:20  * netrunner searching how to evaluate premake hook by hand
22:21 < mnemoc> hook_eval premake
22:21 < netrunner> ah
22:21 < netrunner> thx, just found :)
22:22 < mnemoc> :)
22:29 < netrunner> could it be that pcmcia-cs is broken? (i.e. it installs no modules ...)
22:29 < netrunner> just found while adding hostap to there...
22:35 < rxr> netrunner: nope - the modules are in the kernel
22:35 < rxr> netrunner: it is intended pcmcia-cs does not install it's own
22:36 < rxr> mnemoc: "_not_ build in final machine" what do you mean?
22:36 < rxr> mnemoc: because gcc get's slower ?
22:36 < mnemoc> yep
22:37 < mnemoc> worse buildtime/better runtime
22:37 < mnemoc> try to build a desktop with 3.4 on a pmmx ;)
22:37 < mnemoc> but you can build a great desktop-pmmx on a p4
22:40 < rxr> yep
22:40 < rxr> this is why we are @ rock-linux and not @ gentoo
22:40 < daja77> ^^
22:40 < rxr> (despite of the other feature sets, and ugly code in gentoo ...)
22:40 < daja77> you can't stop pciking on them ;-)
22:41 < mnemoc> :p
22:41 < rxr> why should I ;-)
22:41 < daja77> but what you can't do is a p4 build on athlon
22:41  * rxr shortly off to get some food
22:41 < rxr> not yet -but a p4 is fast enough anyway
22:41 < mnemoc> the pseudo-cross-compilability of rock hits any other distro
22:41 < Vroum> at this time !! ??
22:42 < daja77> Vroum: ?
22:42 < Vroum> rxr: ?
22:42 < Vroum> :)
22:42 < rxr> Vroum: not out into a shop - into the kitchen and into my mouth
22:42 < Vroum> aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh
22:42 < Vroum> lol
22:42 < Vroum> !):
22:42 < rxr> Vroum: or do you wonder anyway?
22:42 < daja77> hehe
22:43 < rxr> Vroum: me was up till 5 o'clock in the morning today - so my wakeup-rythm is shifted anyway ...
22:43 < Vroum> outch
22:45 < mnemoc> rxr: it you continue shifting it you will overflow
22:46 < Vroum> :)
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23:11 < rxr> mnemoc: but then I'm in the normal range again ;-)!
23:11 < mnemoc> like a normal person :)
23:11 < Vroum> :)
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23:34 < demian> hi
23:35 < Vroum> lo demian 
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