--- Log opened Fri Jun 04 00:00:23 2004
00:03 < mnemoc> .oO( openoffice ate all my swap :-( )o
00:14  * rxr now rerunning my benchmarks with:
00:14 < rxr> -O3 -mcpu=athlon-xp -msse -funroll-loops -mfpmath=sse -fomit-frame-pointer -foptimize-sibling-calls -finline-all-stringops -ftracer -funit-at-a-time -funswitch-loops
00:15 < dsoul> :>
00:15 < rxr> this article becomes fun
00:15 < Vr> :}
00:15 < rxr> oh ! cool !
00:15 < rxr> ==> gzip-1.2.4a_3.4.0-athlon-O4-rt <==
00:15 < rxr> 20.31333
00:15 < rxr> ==> gzip-1.2.4a_3.4.0-athlon-O5-rt <==
00:15 < rxr> 17.27000
00:16  * rxr awaiting the new graph
00:16 < Vr> :)
00:16 < rxr> the speedup between my -O4 and -O5 is mostly due to:
00:16 < rxr> -msse -mfpmath=sse
01:13 < esden> hi ho
01:13 < mnemoc> hi esden 
01:14 < esden> hi mnemoc 
01:14 < SMP> why use -mcpu -msse and not just -arch ?
01:14 < SMP> -march even
01:14 < esden> hi SMP 
01:16  * SMP to bed.
01:16 < rxr> SMP: I'm so used to -mcpu - hm -march does include it ... ok - thanks
01:16 < rxr> n8 SMP 
01:16 < mnemoc> SMP, are you sick?
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01:32 < _MadTux> re.
01:34 < rxr> n8
01:34 < rxr> hi _MadTux 
01:36 < mnemoc> tuxie
01:41 < _MadTux> 'lo fellows :)
01:43 < Vr> lo _MadTux 
01:43 < _MadTux> :)
01:44 < Vr> ;}
01:44 < _MadTux> =D
01:45 < Vr> 8]
01:45 < _MadTux> (*)(*)
01:45 < _MadTux> ok back to code.
01:45 < Vr> lol
01:45 < Vr> ahaha !!
01:45 < Vr> :>
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04:18 < _MadTux> hey blindy
04:22 < rxr> http://rocklinux-consulting.de/new2-rt.png
04:22 < rxr> http://rocklinux-consulting.de/new2-bt.png
04:22 < _MadTux> ?
04:22 < rxr> I hope everyone agrees that this data layout is better compared with:
04:22 < rxr> http://rocklinux-consulting.de/new-rt.png
04:22 < rxr> http://rocklinux-consulting.de/new-bt.png
04:22 < rxr> ...
04:22 < rxr> finally n8 ...
04:22 < _MadTux> n8 rxr
04:23 < rxr> n8 mnemoc 
04:23 < rxr> 4:23 here - and I'm neraly falling from my chair
04:23  * rxr crawling into the bed ....
04:23 < rxr> cu *
04:23 < _MadTux> cya ren
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04:50 < demian> hi
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05:12 < demian> is there a web cvs for rock sources ?
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05:55 < _MadTux> n8 all.
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09:12 < ^^evil> hey guys good morning excuse me for posing another stupid question ^^, hopin for anybody out there willing to answer me
09:13 < ^^evil> i am really having trouble creating .gem packages from a tar.gz archive and cant find any useful documentation
09:13 < ^^evil> any help would be greatly appreciated
09:13 < daja77> why that
09:14 < netrunner> moin
09:14 < ^^evil> cause i am new to rock : )
09:14 < ^^evil> tach : )
09:14 < daja77> what exactly do you want to do?
09:14 < ^^evil> just cant figure out howto
09:15 < ^^evil> i downloaded a new pcmcia-cs.tar.gz and dont know how to get it installed properly with mine
09:16 < netrunner> ^^evil: you have to build it first.
09:16 < ^^evil> u mean just compiling it with make?
09:16 < ^^evil> stepping the make install?
09:17 < daja77> you want to install, or just need a .gem?
09:18 < netrunner> ^^evil: do you have rock installed?
09:18 < ^^evil> If Id just compile it and make install, I couldnt really use mine, right
09:18 < ^^evil> yes i have
09:18 < daja77> ^^evil: you can
09:19 < daja77> just do a mkpkg pcmcia-cs make install
09:19 < daja77> instead of just running make install
09:19 < ^^evil> after compiling the 2.6.6 kernel the pcmcia tools wont read the firmware of my wlan card, really strange
09:19 < ^^evil> on a also self-compiled 2.4.22 kernel they will
09:20 < ^^evil> and they also recognize an older card under 2.6.6
09:20 < ^^evil> ah thx daja : )
09:20 < ^^evil> thats the line I needed
09:20 < daja77> np
09:22 < ^^evil> u dont have any hints considering my general problem, right
09:23 < daja77> what is your general problem
09:23 < ^^evil> as described above: under 2.6.6 the pcmcia tools wont read the firmware of my wlan card
09:23 < netrunner> ^^evil: ever considered reading the handbook? mkpkg is described there. 
09:24 < ^^evil> under a self compiled 2.4.22 they do
09:24 < daja77> no I can't tell why they don't read the firmware
09:24 < ^^evil> and they do read the firmware of an older more common card under 2.6.6 as well
09:24 < ^^evil> =/
09:25 < ^^evil> @netrunner: I have read that handbook several times and needed somebody to clear things out 4 me
09:25 < daja77> i don't know, maybe you tell us about the error
09:25 < ^^evil> :)
09:26 < ^^evil> somewhat drunk yet its been a wild night yesterday, sry
09:27 < ^^evil> well under 2.6.6 the cardctl ident supplies no infos on the card
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09:28 < ^evil> under 2.4.22/2.6.6(with older card) it does
09:29 < daja77> you told that already
09:30 < ^evil> yeah but i just dont know howto describe it better
09:40 < ^evil> thx guys have a nice day :)
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10:02 < netrunner> anybody actively uses voip here?
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10:08 < SMP> netrunner: they all suck ...
10:09 < daja77> hm guess you told me that in march already ;-)
10:16 < netrunner> SMP: is there one that sucks less? 
10:16 < SMP> depends on what exactly you are looking for
10:20 < netrunner> I want to call/be called at home. masqueraded. on both sides.
10:20 < netrunner> Can be static tunnel though, I just want to talk to a friend using voip
10:20 < SMP> mwahaha ;>
10:21 < SMP> try Skype - but install Windows first
10:24 < netrunner> SMP: my idea seams to be quite impossible?
10:25 < netrunner> if I do a vpn between both networks ...
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10:26 < SMP> netrunner: sure, a clear-channel VPN gives you all options
10:28 < SMP> netrunner: it would be possible to use e.g. two SIP (soft)phones behind NAT, but that would require you to use STUN and an STUN server in the middle. but none of the SIP softphones for Linux has a working STUN anyway ...
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10:41 < netrunner> SMP: see, my vision was walking through the uni, bluetooth notebook in backpack, headset on head and calling my gf at home ordering lunch ;)
10:41 < netrunner> I heard that ipsec works with both sides dynamic, so I'll probably try that.
10:42 < SMP> netrunner: I had that vision, too ;-)
10:42 < SMP> minus the gf part maybe ;->
10:43 < netrunner> ;)
10:43 < netrunner> but didn't work?
10:44 < SMP> I'm not really trying - since I found out how badly the softphones suck
10:45 < netrunner> hm, gnugk has a proxy function...
10:46 < SMP> a SIP proxy is the least of your problems
10:46 < SMP> you'd even more need to proxy RTP
10:47 < SMP> (and not NAT it)
10:52 < netrunner> our openh323 package is utterly outdated
10:54 < SMP> surprise, surprise
10:55 < netrunner> :)
11:06 < netrunner> config.status: creating Makefile
11:06 < netrunner> --- BUILD ERROR ---
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11:45 < rxr> moin
11:45 < daja77> hi rxr 
11:46 < rxr> yes - all current open source soft phones suck majorly
11:47 < rxr> netrunner: you idea is not impossible - just that there are no usable OpenSource soft-phones ...
11:47 < dsoul> hi rxr 
11:49 < rxr> yeah  - moin
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12:32 < esden|zZz> Irssi 0.8.9 (20031210) - http://irssi.org/
12:33 < esden|zZz> ahh nice ;)
12:33 < esden|zZz> sorry guys
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14:49 < nzg> moin owl
14:50 < Vr> moin nzg
14:50 < nzg> moin vr
14:50 < Vr> :_)
14:50 < Vr> :-)
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15:54 < blindy> hi
15:55 < Vr> hi
15:56 < rxr> hi
15:56 < dsoul> hi blindy
15:56 < rolla> re
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16:07 < blindy> rxr: could I somehow coax you into showing be around Berlin?
16:19 < rxr> blindy: hm?
16:21 < blindy> rxr: just an idea :)
16:22 < blindy> rxr: since I'm going to be in Berlin for 2-6 weeks some time this or next month and if I ack it for at least another 2 years
16:26 < rxr> some sightseeing or so? Or what do you mean?
16:26 < blindy> places to hang out, get drunk, go shopping
16:26 < blindy> those kind of stuff
16:27 < rxr> sure, why not ... if it does not exceed my free time quota ... ;-)
16:27 < daja77> rxr: you have such a thing?
16:28 < blindy> rxr: sure :)
16:28 < blindy> daja77: *lol*
16:28 < rxr> yes - and the quota is very small ...
16:28 < daja77> 1h/week or so ;-)
16:32 < rxr> hm - debugging other peoples plotting tools just to plot some values sucks
16:34 < daja77> gnuplot?
16:34 < daja77> hm is there anything you don't have to debug before you can use it ;-)
17:07 < mnemoc> rehi
17:08 < daja77> hi mnemoc 
17:09 < dsoul> hi mnemoc 
17:09 < mnemoc> hi d{aja77,soul}
17:09 < dsoul> :>
17:09 < daja77> ts
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18:02 < _MadTux> greetings.
18:03 < dsoul> hi _MadTux 
18:03 < _MadTux> good day dsoul 
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18:09 < blindy> moin _MadTux 
18:10 < _MadTux> blindy: hallo mein freund. :)
18:10 < blindy> _MadTux: long time no see, how's life treating you?
18:11 < _MadTux> blindy: very VERY good thanks for asking. you/
18:12 < blindy> _MadTux: giving me choices I didn't ask for, so not bad, either :)
18:12 < _MadTux> glad to hear
18:12 < blindy> _MadTux: which means that I'll probably soon live in the same town as rxr 
18:13 < _MadTux> hey very nice.
18:14 < blindy> If the conditions are pleasing, of course :)
18:14 < _MadTux> obviously
18:14 < blindy> only downside: I'd have to work with Solaris
18:15 < SMP> Berlin is the center of the world ...
18:15 < _MadTux> blindy: ah thats fine u can ask them to let u use one sparc for linux stuff
18:15 < _MadTux> SMP: it is?
18:15 < blindy> SMP: and my wallet wants to be fed :)
18:15 < fake> netrunner,SMP: sipproxd does both
18:16 < Lorini> hi _MadTux
18:16 < _MadTux> Andy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18:16 < Lorini> :)
18:17  * blindy just became deaf
18:17 < SMP> _MadTux: at least in my opinion (and that of some other people)
18:17 < blindy> _MadTux: don't shout while standing next to my ear
18:17 < SMP> unfortunately I never lived in Berlin - yet
18:17 < _MadTux> blindy: like if i cared.
18:17 < blindy> :P
18:17 < _MadTux> SMP: i will have to be there and see.
18:18 < blindy> SMP: want to work for my employer and work in Berlin with Solaris at Siemens? :)
18:18 < fake> 60 yrs ago everyone wanted to reach berlin...
18:18 < SMP> (but I'll be there for the Alanis Morissette concert on July, 2nd)
18:19 < fake> *swallows*
18:19 < SMP> blindy: ehm - no :>
18:19 < blindy> SMP: damn, we'd still need two people :)
18:19 < blindy> fake: what about you returning to berlin? :D
18:19  * blindy is being shameless today
18:20 < SMP> blindy: are you serious? how much?
18:20 < fake> berlin? i lived in bonn, a few km's more on the west
18:20 < blindy> fake: oh, damn. I always get those two mixed up :(
18:20 < Lorini> lol
18:20 < SMP> huh
18:20 < fake> blindy: just try not to once you're in berlin
18:21 < blindy> SMP: if you want I can get you in touch with the one responsible for monetary things. One thing is for sure: not for the wage I'm getting right now :P
18:21 < blindy> fake: or when I'm in IN and need to return there for work :)
18:21 < fake> hehe
18:22 < fake> well, getting to berlin is as easy as getting to bonn, just turn left or right at nuernberg ;)
18:23 < fake> note: for you it's _right_
18:24 < blindy> fake: thanks, I'll double check once I'm there :)
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20:29 < tcr> moin all
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20:57 < netrunne1> re
20:57 < netrunne1> fake: packaged?
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22:30  * rolla yawns
23:37 < mnemoc> *yawn*
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23:47  * daja77 slaps all yawners
23:47 < mnemoc> thanks *ya..mm*
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23:54 < StefanG> hi
23:54 < mnemoc> hi StefanG 
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