--- Log opened Sun Jun 06 00:00:41 2004
00:01 < rxr> ah you mean as benchmark value ...
00:01 < mnemoc> yep
00:01 < rxr> maybe later - if is is high level enoughfor compiler optimizations ...
00:01 < rxr> but not in this run - i need the article until tomorror night
00:01 < rxr> and I just add a new C++ benchmark ...
00:01 < rxr> and I need to wire much mroe text - and review my text afterwards ...
00:02 < mnemoc> i can wait :)
00:02 < mnemoc> that benchmark can say a lot about that emulator
00:08 < rxr> what would you like me to run into it ?
00:08 < rxr> ah - you mean running the bench in the emulator ...
00:12 < mnemoc> _inside_ the emulator
00:12 < rxr> yeah - got it now ..
00:12 < mnemoc> :p
00:13  * daja77 posting kernel panic screenshots to the reactos ppl :)
00:14 < mnemoc> doh
00:14  * rxr already seeing daja doing a reactos ROCK ...
00:14 < daja77> the setup routine fails in qemu
00:15 < rxr> daja77: does ROCK boot in qemu?
00:15 < daja77> rxr: nope but i consider booting a bootdisk target overnight and testing some gcc-3.4 isos in qemu
00:15 < daja77> i have no current bootdisk
00:15 < daja77> could try with older ones only
00:16 < mnemoc> 2.0.x bootdisk still broken :|
00:16 < daja77> 2.1 too?
00:16 < mnemoc> no idea
00:16 < mnemoc> :)
00:18 < rxr> broken?
00:18 < rxr> ah  - only bootdisks?
00:18 < rxr> cd not affected?
00:19 < rxr> I booted official 2.0.1 on x86 and powerpc just fine ...
00:20 < mnemoc> cd _is_ affected
00:20 < mnemoc> floppy, on the boxes i tested it is even more broken
00:20 < mnemoc> fdxms failed
00:21 < rxr> what failed?
00:21 < mnemoc> mount
00:21 < rxr> mnemoc: have you ever mentioned that somewhere? 
00:21 < mnemoc> fdxms? or mount?
00:21 < mnemoc> mount: yes, fdxms: no
00:21 < rxr> this 2nd stage can not be mounted thing ?
00:22 < mnemoc> yep
00:22 < rxr> I can not produce this here 
00:22 < rxr> what hardware is affected on your side?
00:22 < mnemoc> it seem to be hardware dependent
00:22 < rxr> how much does a flight cost ?
00:22 < mnemoc> three diffenret machines, all p4
00:22 < rxr> ouhc
00:22 < rxr> ouch even
00:23 < rxr> I thought only old stuff is beaten by that ...
00:23 < rxr> anything else?
00:23 < rxr> I avoid Intel stuff - some Athlon or so ?
00:23 < mnemoc> no tries on amd
00:24 < rxr> on my K62 or so 2.0.1 does boot just fine ...
00:26 < mnemoc> if you know how to 'improve' bootdisk to generate good debuging, i could test for you
00:27 < mnemoc> it _is_ dietlibc related
00:28 < daja77> win27
00:28 < daja77> args
00:30 < mnemoc> 27?
00:34 < daja77> on window 27 is the reactos chanatm
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00:55 < daja77> http://lospalmos.homelinux.net/reactos-register2.png ^^
00:56 < rxr> is the crash also available?
00:57 < daja77> http://lospalmos.homelinux.net/panic-shot.png
00:57 < mnemoc> the one that failed how prebuilt, handbuilt or rockbuilt?
00:58 < daja77> huh?
00:58 < daja77> i did not build reactos
00:58 < mnemoc> prebuilt then :)
00:58 < daja77> i used an image they prepared for qemu
00:58 < daja77> but it only starts that stupid setup tool
00:59 < mnemoc> ehm
01:01 < daja77> i've set the image writeable hth ^^
01:04 < daja77> yes it works
01:06 < mnemoc> new screenshot?
01:09 < daja77> http://lospalmos.homelinux.net/reactos-desktop.png
01:11 < rxr> when I would implement a OS - I would not name the menu with power-off and suspend "start" how stupid is it to copy this fat usability bug ?!?!
01:14 < daja77> but windows with virtuell desktops ;-)
01:14 < daja77> virtual
01:14 < daja77> thet explorer is somehow broken
01:15 < rxr> shot ?
01:16 < daja77> it doesn't start up, some seconds after I try to start it the system freezes
01:19 < daja77> but at least it runs in qemu at all, even usable and not that dog slow like in bochs
01:35 < daja77> n8 you all
01:36 < Lorini> n8 daja
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03:39 < nzg> moin
03:59 < mnemoc> moin 
04:00 < nzg> and by...
04:01 < nzg> i finally need to get some sleep...
04:01 < nzg> n8
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04:01 < mnemoc> n8 nz
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09:25 < blindy> moin
09:41 < blindy> hmm
09:41 < blindy> The GoboLinux Compile thingie strikes me as somewhat... unautomated
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10:10 < netrunne1> moin
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10:12 < netrunner> blindy: linuxtag karlsruhe?
10:36 < daja77> the rock iso boots in qemu
10:38 < daja77> and it is broken :(
10:38 < netrunner> daja77: linuxtag karlsruhe?
10:38 < daja77> i can tell you on monday
10:40 < netrunner> prima .)
10:40 < netrunner> currently only 2 subscribers, me and rene
10:41 < daja77> could be that i have to write an exam on 23rd june
10:54 < netrunner> ah, fake also registered.
10:54 < SMP> huh. GogoLinux looks cool. finally someone did it ...
10:54 < netrunner> SMP: linuxtag karlsruhe?
10:54 < daja77> oh ok only had too less ram
10:55 < SMP> netrunner: ahm, no :(
10:56 < netrunner> SMP: excuse?
10:57 < daja77> do we need to?
10:57 < SMP> daja77: I don't need a smiley to tell a joke
10:58 < netrunner> daja77: no, but as I am in charge of getting RL people there, I pretend you have to :)
10:58 < daja77> maybe I am too sleepy for it
10:58 < SMP> netrunner: I had to chose either LinuxTag or the Alanis Morissette concert in Berlin
10:58 < netrunner> ah I remember
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11:21 < blindy> netrunner: at home
11:22 < blindy> netrunner: when is that?
11:24 < blindy> netrunner: because I will probably start working in Berlin on 14th of June
11:36 < SMP> that's ... soon
11:36 < blindy> yes, but if I'd acked it last Thursday I'd already be there tomorrow
11:37 < SMP> LinuxTag is June 23 - 26
11:37 < blindy> guess I won't be there then
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11:49 < Lorini> moin
11:51 < SMP> wb jsaw
11:52 < jsaw> hi all
11:52 < jsaw> hi SMP
11:57 < netrunner> hi jsaw 
11:57 < netrunner> jsaw: linuxtag karlsruhe?
11:58 < jsaw> hi netrunner 
11:58 < jsaw> netrunner: when, what?
11:58 < netrunner> LinuxTag is June 23 - 26 in karlsruhe. www.linuxtag.de
12:00 < jsaw> still have to sort myself
12:00  * jsaw has been in an old farmer house in Allgaeu with family for one week (slow live! no news, no net)
12:10 < jsaw> cu 2n8
12:17 < blindy> re
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13:02 < pep> hi
13:02 < daja77> hi pep 
13:02 < pep> has anyone tried to build rocklinux 2.0.1 on Debian sarge?
13:02 < daja77> iirc someone did
13:02 < pep> I get an error message when building linux24-src package
13:03 < pep> is it a known issue?
13:03 < daja77> what error
13:03 < pep> hm
13:03 < pep> something with tar assertion
13:03 < daja77> yep seems to be a broken glibc
13:03 < pep> debian's glibc?
13:04 < daja77> yes
13:04 < pep> uh...
13:05 < pep> hm
13:05 < pep> maybe I'll try to get rock rescue filesystem and build it in chrooted environment, do you think it could help?
13:05 < daja77> it could
13:07 < pep> BTW I wonder whether this glibc bug is already in debian's bug tracking system?
13:07 < daja77> i have no idea
13:07 < daja77> could you use tar with rocklinux involved
13:08 < pep> well, I certainly will :)
13:08 < daja77> try it, and look if you get the same assertion
13:09 < pep> can you pint me to the file?
13:09 < pep> with this tarfile
13:09 < daja77> download/base/linux24
13:09 < pep> ah
13:09 < pep> okay, you ask me to untar this file?
13:10 < daja77> yes
13:14 < pep> ok, I did tar -xjf linux-2.4.25.tar.bz2 and it works
13:14 < pep> linux-2.4.25.tar.bz2 from download/base/linux24
13:15 < rxr> pep: in the bulid system a pipe is used to store the extracted files + other sandbox stuff around
13:16 < pep> hm, the message I got is: "tar: dl-open.c:395: dl_open_worker: Assertion `new->l_searchlist.r_list[i]->l_ty
13:16 < pep> pe == lt_loaded' failed.
13:16 < pep> "
13:16 < pep> this is the message from build log file
13:19 < pep> ok, so where I could find a tarfile with rock build environment, so that I could untar it and chroot to it?
13:37 < rxr> there are minimal ISOs you could boot or extract from
13:37 < rxr> pep: yes - known - try tar w/ LD_PRELOAD the sandbox wrapper to see if you can reproduce it without all the rock scripts ...
13:39 < rxr> netrunner: I have a very ugly email regarding the LinuxTag in my inbox
13:39 < rxr> netrunner: I thought you are going to get this organisation stuff done
13:40 < rxr> netrunner: could you - in the case you still want to organize it respond and pass the info to the people!
13:41 < pep> rxr: where I could find this sandbox wrapper?
13:43 < pep> rxr: fl_wrapper.so?
13:46 < netrunner> rxr: maybe because I got no feedback to my mail to the rlml?
13:46 < netrunner> rxr: Only thing I know is that you and fake come. I do not know when and how. (well, fake comes with his vw bus ;)
13:47 < pep> I did "LD_PRELOAD=fl_wrapper.so tar -xjf download/base/linux24/linux-2.4.25.tar.bz2" and it worked too
13:47 < daja77> ok trying disc2
13:49 < rxr> netrunner: you do not need to exactly now this - just pass reasonable information to those people
13:49 < rxr> say 8-10 people - at least 4 desks
13:49 < rxr> the usual numbers
13:50 < rxr> Clifford will most probably also be there
13:50 < rxr> and if we are too less people valentin will come, too
13:50 < netrunner> rxr: I'll write him, I thought they'd take this info from this infodrome thingie
13:52 < pep> I did it with cmd_wrapper and it worked :)
13:52 < pep> heh
13:55 < pep> look, guys, I have a problem with building rocklinux, but I am not going to hack these bash scripts to do that, is there a simple way to build it on debian machine or do I have to install rock from iso?
13:57 < daja77> well at least there should be no assertions then
14:03 < blindy> mnemoc: here?
14:05 < netrunner> blindy: do you have this booth equipment stuff? 
14:07 < blindy> ARGH! For the 2,147,483,647th time: praenti was the one who offered to keep it
14:07 < netrunner> blindy: and, does he have it?
14:08 < blindy> netrunner: I think so
14:10 < pep> is there some workaround to this buggy glibc?
14:10 < blindy> pep: ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg glibc :-)
14:12 < pep> blindy: one thing I hate about Linux is that developers of one distro often discredit developers of other distro
14:12 < pep> I have Debian installed on desktop and want to build minimalistic rocklinux for my laptop
14:13 < blindy> ah, I see
14:13 < rxr> pep: we do not have debian here - you should just report it to the debian bug tracker
14:13 < rxr> or debug it ...
14:14 < rxr> with many various libc's on many different CPUs and distibutions I never saw such a glibc bug ...
14:14 < pep> rxr: so, it could be a bug in rocklinux build system :>
14:16 < rxr> or better dynamic linker
14:16 < rxr> pep: I do not think so
14:17 < netrunner> blindy: do you know the guy who offerd the booth equipment? praenti has no idea...
14:17 < rxr> you are free to prove so - of course
14:17 < rxr> netrunner: the one from clifford?
14:17 < netrunner> rxr: some mike eschner or so
14:17 < netrunner> rxr: could be via clifford.
14:17 < rxr> netrunner:  is the booth equiqment not yet stored somewhere?
14:17 < rxr> netrunner: never collected?
14:17 < rxr> http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20040606
14:18 < netrunner> rxr: obviously not. clifford said blindy has it, blindy points to praenti, praenti points tp a big question mark
14:18 < rxr> then call clifford ...
14:18 < netrunner> again :) ok
14:19 < netrunner> he'll start a regression test with patches and .cache generation btw.
14:19 < daja77> netrunner: this mike who was on easterhegg?
14:19 < netrunner> daja77: think so
14:20 < daja77> hm
14:22 < netrunner> clif taking care.
14:22 < rxr> of what? LinuxTag as a whole? or tables?
14:22 < netrunner> this equipment stuff. he asks the guy who organizes it. 
14:23 < netrunner> rxr: I stay organisator, not the best as it is my first time, but I do what I can ;)
14:24 < netrunner> hehe, I see my typing as throughput bursts in gkrellm :)
14:25 < rxr> netrunner: ok - then maybe you could reply back a bit more detailed then I - and maybe to other mails you got that I do not have ...
14:25 < rxr> from Berlin you can count at least one person - maybe to (valentin || /me)
14:25 < rxr> hm - better only one |
14:26 < daja77> hope i can be there, but perhaps only from 24th
14:27 < rxr> I'm also not yet sure since I have important exams - I really do not know why those freaks at LT have not learned from last year and put the event in soem time-frame without exams ...
14:27 < rxr> but at least one of rocklinux-consulting.de will be there - maybe two
14:28 < netrunner> daja77: doesn't matter, I enter you in this infodrome thing ok? 
14:29 < rxr> yes
14:29 < rxr> enter two - valentin and me
14:29 < daja77> netrunner: ok
14:31 < rxr> netrunner: I got another mail ...
14:31 < rxr> answer cc'ed
14:32 < rxr> is there only the infodropm thing - or other mails to reply too?
14:32 < rxr> maybe you should also go thru the mails - and answer those with quesionts to the booth people ...
14:36 < netrunner> I try to get joey on irc, see what he needs.
14:44 < pep> heh, on 2004-05-27 someone asked the same question as me here :>
14:45 < daja77> yes it we coudl not reproduce it on non debian system
14:46 < pep> I have a box with FC 1.91, maybe I'll try to compile rl on it
14:47 < daja77> yes please do so and report
14:47 < pep> I cannot report the bug to bugs.debian.org because my mail system is dead
14:47 < daja77> :(
14:48 < pep> but AFAIK there is no such report in bugs.debian.org/libc6
14:48 < pep> heh, okay, that's not your problem
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14:53 < netrunner> hm, just found 2 linuxtag infomails in my =spam
14:54 < daja77> hi ravelo :)
14:54 < ravelo> ah hi daja77 ;)
14:54 < ravelo> just curios if there is #rocklinux ;)
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15:19 < netrunner> strange people live in these wilds ... :)
15:20 < daja77> you mean ravelo?
15:21 < daja77> he just came over from the reactos chan, co I told about rocklinux and he had met clifford before
15:22 < netrunner> http://waterworld.dyndns.org/~andreas/rocklinux/linuxtag_rocklinux_stand.eps
15:22 < netrunner> just an idea
15:30 < daja77> I quite liked it the way we had it last year
15:30 < netrunner> http://www.infodrom.org/Debian/events/LinuxTag2003/standbau.png
15:31 < netrunner> daja77: I wasn't there, what was it like?
15:31  * netrunner is a RL-newbie :)
15:31 < daja77> the booths are grouped like last year
15:32 < daja77> we created a triangle with the tables
15:32 < netrunner> was it open from both sides?
15:33 < daja77> no one front
15:33 < netrunner> oh, the url says 2003 :/
15:34 < daja77> ok that explains why it looks like last year ^^
15:34 < netrunner> :)
15:51  * netrunner building qemu
15:51 < daja77> :)
15:51 < netrunner> is it like a free vmware?
15:51 < netrunner> oh, fails :/
15:52 < daja77> huh?
15:52 < daja77> it built fine here
15:52 < netrunner> /usr/src/rock-submaster/src.qemu.1086529891.4550.3927434759/qemu-0.5.5/softmmu_template.h:179: unable to find a register 
15:52 < netrunner> to spill in class `GENERAL_REGS'
15:52 < daja77> gcc-3.4?
15:53 < netrunner> no, stage 9 should use host gcc, no?
15:53 < netrunner> 323
15:53 < netrunner> maybe athlon (mp) is the problem)
15:53 < daja77> oh
15:53  * daja77 trying gcc-3.4 build ins sandbox
15:54 < daja77> i could make a gem for you
15:54 < netrunner> pentium-mmx builds fine.
15:55 < daja77> :\
15:55 < netrunner> trying k6-2
15:55 < netrunner> the good thing with my 2 250GB disks now is that I can keep a collection of builds and use them for updates/test builds
15:55 < daja77> :)
15:56 < netrunner> I plan to use my build server as primary server at home and only build inside a build-uml :)
15:56 < daja77> it fails with 3.4 >_<
15:58 < netrunner> jup. the k6-2 build has gcc34
16:00 < netrunner> how do I setup a tun interface?
16:01 < daja77> ah found a work around
16:02 < daja77> dunno, atm i used the dummy-network switch to get rid of the message
16:04 < netrunner> (qemu) BIOS panic at rombios.c, line 1558
16:04 < daja77> what have you tried to do?
16:05 < netrunner> qemu -dummy-net uml_rootfs
16:05  * daja77 writing a howto test rocklinux with qemu rolling rock article atm
16:05 < netrunner> :)
16:05 < daja77> and uml_rootfs is what?
16:05  * netrunner added "write an article how to build rocklinux in a rock-uml" 
16:06 < netrunner> to his todo
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16:15 < nzg> moin
16:16 < daja77> the gcc wrapper seems to have no effect on this package >_<
16:16 < dsoul> hi nzg 
16:17 < nzg> moin dsoul
16:20 < daja77> the cflags used are always the same, anyway what the wrappers say
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16:47 < netrunner> http://www.retrocomputing-world.com/roms/Sega_Mega_Drive/sega/SEGA.html genesis roms
16:47 < netrunner> hope they are ok :)
16:49 < tfing> some 404
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16:56  * netrunner starting wget -r @uni :)
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17:02 < mnemoc> rehi
17:02 < mnemoc> blindy: here! :)
17:04 < nzg> moin mnemoc
17:05 < netrunner> hi mnemoc 
17:05 < mnemoc> hi nzg, netrunner 
17:06 < dsoul> hi mnemoc 
17:09 < mnemoc> hi dsoul 
17:09 < mnemoc> netrunner: both epia's discarded?
17:13 < mnemoc> uhm.. gotta go... bbl
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17:21 < netrunner> mnemoc: I bzip2ed the patches, and was not able to commit them to submaster :/
17:32 < daja77> hi mnemoc 
17:32 < daja77> how much ram does the box have on which you tested the isos?
17:33 < daja77> bbl
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17:59 < netrunner> what was the reason for the "glib is not installed (in prefix usr)!" problem=
18:06 < rxr> mixed gnome version
18:07 < rxr> sanity check
18:08 < netrunner> ah, strace showed me that it was searching in  /opt/gnome26 while I still have /opt/gnome24
18:17 < rxr> just reading the .conf would have been suffient to find that out ...
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18:37 < pep> hmpfh
18:37 < pep> when building rocklinux on FC 1.91 I get some error messages concerned with SELinux:
18:38 < pep> somethig like "audit(blah): avc: denied ..."
18:41 < pep> why the heck they enabled Security Enhanced in general purpose system?
18:41 < tfing> reboot with selinux=0 as a bootparam or something like that
18:43 < tcr> pep: Given that FC is supposed for Average Joe, Linux user, I think that going a more secure way is actually a very good thing
18:45 < tcr> Those people are not meant to build software on they own, so it's more likely that selinux won't cut them down
18:45 < tcr> their
18:45 < pep> well, I have always looked at myself as at Average Pete, Linux user :)
18:46 < tcr> If so, I can't explain you being here [which may sound a bit elitistical, but isn't really meant to... err, well it is :P]
18:48 < pep> heh, I'm here because I don't like gentoo :>
18:48 < pep> although I am great fan of python
18:48 < pep> that's complicated
18:49 < tcr> Gentoo has a whole bunch of shell scripting too from what I know
18:50 -!- lowy is now known as LowLander
18:51 < tcr> Python is just everything around the pkg builds, I think
18:51 < tcr> Not that that is bad in any kind, just noted :)
18:54 < tcr> I haven't tried python, but it probably isn't all that bad, since it got lambda and higher-order functions
18:54 < pep> it is good, esp. when you design app first and then want to make prototype quickly
18:58 < tcr> Actually, you should design while making the prototype, otherwise this would kinda defeat a major reason for making a prototype
18:58 < pep> hm
18:58 < pep> heh, could be :)
18:58 < tcr> Unless you need to get something ready for your boss
18:59 < pep> yes, to show the idea of user interface for example
19:00 < tcr> Anyway, did the tfing's tip work for you?
19:01 < pep> I put "selinux kernel boot" keywords into google to find whether this is the right parameter and stuck on nsa.gov site
19:04 < tfing> pep: add selinux=0 to your bootparams, that should do it
19:07 < pep> can't boot
19:07 < pep> "Enforcing mode requested but no policy loaded. Halting now."
19:08 < tfing> strange
19:08 < pep> and kernel panic
19:14 < pep> okay, no need to hurry, my laptop is patient :)
19:27 < pep> echo 0 > /selinux/enforce did the thing
19:30 < pep> nope
19:33  * netrunner just downloaded 165MB of genesis roms
19:37 -!- giftnuss [~giftnuss@p5087F5CE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux
19:38 < giftnuss> hi
19:51  * netrunner trying scripts/Emerge-Pkg -repository gnome2
20:17 -!- esden|bbl is now known as esden
20:18 < esden> hi ho everyone
20:22 < netrunner> hi esden
20:22 < netrunner> esden: linuxtag karlsruhe?
20:24 < rxr> hi esden 
20:27 < esden> netrunner: ??
20:27 < esden> dunno ... where is it?
20:27 < esden> I mean when
20:27 < esden> not where
20:27 < esden> hi netrunner, rxr 
20:28 < esden> sbtw ... I found a must have program! : http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=cycle&section=projects&Go.x=0&Go.y=0
20:29 < esden> erm : http://freshmeat.net/projects/cycle/
20:29 < esden> this link is better
20:29 < esden> ;)
20:40 < netrunner> esden: why? finally got your days?
20:42 < netrunner> hm, this is the first time some spammer uses my adress as sender adress, and I get all the bounces
20:43 < esden> netrunner: that is your first time?
20:43 < esden> netrunner: I get bounces pretty often ;)
20:44 < esden> netrunner: yes sure ... and that is amazing ;)
20:44 < esden> ok ... I go home now
20:44 < esden> cu all
20:44 -!- esden is now known as esden|bbl
20:44  * netrunner sees esden in the new ob ads 
20:45 < daja77> hehe as a warning
20:56 < netrunner> hm, the emerge-pkg doesn't get the deps quite right :/
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21:15 < blindy> rehi
21:15 < daja77> re blindy 
21:15 < blindy> thx
21:18 < blindy> hmm
21:18 < blindy> guess I'll go to bed
21:18  * blindy -> bed
21:18 < daja77> sound snice
21:21 < netrunner> ah, the guy from linuxtag calmed down :)
21:27  * netrunner wants to package the thing esden mentioned, but is unsure which category: extra/security ... extra/login ... extra/configuration ...
21:28 < daja77> lol
21:29 < netrunner> maybe scientific :)
21:30 < netrunner> even if it is more religion, because it works only if you believe very strong
21:33 < netrunner> ah, removing everything that has files in gnome24 helped, now the emerge of gnome2 works more smooth
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22:42 < daja77> anybody has an idea why the gcc_wrapper is not enforcing the gcc command line?
22:47 -!- nookie [~nookie@M396P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
22:48 < rxr> daja77: what gcc command line
22:48 < rxr> netrunner: all linuxtag stuff organized now? - Any good news?
22:48 < daja77> rxr: qemu makes troubles when using gcc-3.4
22:50 < daja77> it needs the -fno-strict-aliasing flag additionally, so I added it to GCC_WRAPPER, in the log it says it is added but when gcc is executed it is not there
22:51 < rxr> I'm not aware of wrapper bugs - most likely a typo
22:51 < rxr> what exact code do you use?
22:51 < rxr> does qemu use g++ or gcc ?
22:51 < daja77> gcc
22:52 < rxr> maybe qemu adds -fstrict-aliasing itself?
22:52 < rxr> behind your -fno-...
22:52 < rxr> so GCC_WRAPPER_REMOVE ...
22:53 < daja77> this is the command line of the wrapper
22:53 < daja77> New Command: gcc-3 -Os -pipe -march=pentium-mmx --version -s -fno-strict-aliasing
22:53 < daja77> and that's what is used for compiling
22:53 < daja77> gcc-3 -Wall -O2 -g -fomit-frame-pointer -I.
22:54 < daja77> looks completely different
22:54 < rxr> daja77: you are fooled be the packages' own make output
22:54 < rxr> daja77: this is not what is used for gcc ...
22:54 < daja77> >_<
22:55 < rxr> this is why we added the debug line on the top - so people are supposted to see what is used - even tho make does output what is written inside the Makefile ...
22:55 < daja77> hm strange then it should compile too
22:55 < rxr> does it compile when you built it with -f-no... manually ?
22:55 < rxr> -fno-... even ..
22:56 < daja77> haven't tried read on the ml that this should fix it
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22:59 < rxr> how do you add it to the GCC_WRAPPER ?
23:00 < daja77> var_append GCC_WRAPPER_APPEND " " "...
23:02 < rxr> hm - ok
23:02 < rxr> I bet when you try manually it will fail, too
23:02 < rxr> please try - and feel free to post the error here ....
23:05 < daja77> qemu-0.5.5/target-i386 -I/ROCK/src.qemu.1086555544.19324.1896633501/qemu-0.5.5 -D_GNU_SOURCE -c -o op.o /ROCK/src.qemu.1086555544.19324.1896633501/qemu-0.5.5/target-i386/op.c
23:05 < daja77> /ROCK/src.qemu.1086555544.19324.1896633501/qemu-0.5.5/target-i386/ops_template_mem.h: In function `op_rolb_kernel_T0_T1_cc':
23:05 < daja77> /ROCK/src.qemu.1086555544.19324.1896633501/qemu-0.5.5/softmmu_header.h:179: error: can't find a register in class `GENERAL_REGS' while reloading `asm'
23:09 < daja77> btw install of cd 3 shoudl be finshed soon
23:11 < daja77> 23:07 < daja77> anyone had successfully compiled it with gcc-3.4?
23:11 < daja77> 23:09 < annex> if by 3.4 you mean 3.3.2, then yes
23:11 < daja77> O_o
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23:23 < rxr> daja77: this is a optimizer bug in gcc - can you try if it is fixed in the 3.4.1-prerelease?
23:23 < rxr> ;-)?
23:23 < rxr> or another machine optimizaion might work arround it ...
23:24 < daja77> so I need to rebuild everything with 3.4.1?
23:25 < netrunner> rxr: not all, but joey calmed down and is content so far.
23:25 < netrunner> rxr: I think I built it with 3.4 ... checking ...
23:25 < daja77> it did?
23:26 < netrunner> ah, no, was 323
23:26 < netrunner> but it failed with 323 for athlonmp too.
23:26 < daja77> >_< this gcc is nice
23:27 < netrunner> started a 34 build for k6-2 ...
23:27 < daja77> there are lots of unresolved symbols in kernel modules with this install
23:27 < netrunner> that has always been the case ...
23:27 < daja77> no
23:28 < netrunner> I always see this with 24, 26 is usually ok.
23:28 < daja77> not on alsa modules
23:28 < daja77> it has been only one module, this sedlbaur thing
23:28 < Lorini> n8
23:28 < daja77> n8 Lorini 
23:28 < netrunner> n8 Lorini
23:29 < netrunner> ok, fails with the error you mentioned
23:29 < daja77> netrunner: you said something about an empty fstab with stone right?
23:31 < netrunner> daja77: jup
23:31 < netrunner> daja77: I do not know how that came, maybe because the kernel was quite old or so. I booted a 1.5 and installed then with actual bootdisk
23:31 < netrunner> s/5/7/
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23:42 < daja77> i have this with current images too :(
23:43 < daja77> but would make sense that it is a newer stone in both cases
23:45 < daja77> http://lospalmos.homelinux.net/rocklinux-install-fonts.png
23:45 < daja77> that looks strange
23:46 < rxr> yeah - gnome crap
23:47 < daja77> hopes that this finishes soon, i want to boot rock in the emulator :)
23:48 < daja77> have you experienced that problem with the empty fstab?
23:48 < giftnuss> gute n8
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23:50 < rxr> how fast is rock in the emulator ?
23:50 < daja77> this shit, this damn gnome stuff again tries to connect to the net to load a dtd >_<
23:50 < daja77> rxr: the install is very slow
23:50 < daja77> it took hours
23:50 < rxr> yes - saw this net connect thing on 2.0.1-ppc yesterday, too
23:50 < daja77> but I only gave it 128mb thought
23:50 < rxr> we need to fix gconf not to output so much stuff and this net-connect attempt ...
23:51 < daja77> will see how fast it runs
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