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02:03 < nzg> wee, there are very much .cksum-err files
02:04 < mnemoc> uhm?
02:05 < nzg> many downloads were copied to $DOWNLOAD.cksum-err
02:05 < mnemoc> find download -name "*.cksum-err" | wc -l
02:07 < nzg> and i'm sure they are at least intact
02:07 < nzg> # find download -name "*.cksum-err" | wc -l
02:07 < nzg>      12
02:09 < nzg> i decompressed one of them without problems
02:09 < mnemoc> some lovely maintainers change the files without changing the filename
02:10 < mnemoc> can you get the ones from our mirrors and diff them? ^^
02:11 < nzg> can i enforce the use of the mirror?
02:12 < mnemoc> if you don't have Mirror=none it will try using it before trying direct
02:13 < nzg> i have ftp.leo.org as mirror
02:13 < mnemoc> oh
02:14 < nzg> so coming down the line
02:14 < nzg> but i think it was from there...
02:14 < mnemoc> i believe you
02:16 < nzg> hm, can i see if Download used the original or the mirror in Download-Errors?
02:16 < mnemoc> first line for a file is the mirror, second one is direct
02:18 < mnemoc> 22 means file not found
02:19 < nzg> only 22 and one timeout
02:20 < mnemoc> rxr claim to do daily downloads, then if you get a 22 from mirror it's a new file and you can almost trust the cksum you got
02:22 < nzg> mysql eg is on the mirror.... just waiting for it to finish, then i'll diff them
02:23 < nzg> some files where neither on the mirror nor on the original url according to the err-file
02:23 < mnemoc> find download -name "*.cksum-err" | while read x; do mv $x ${x%.cksum-err}; y=${x#download/}; sed -i -e "s,^\[D\] [0-9]*,\[D\] 0,g" package/${y%/*}/*.desc; done
02:23 < nzg> 22 download/gnome2/evolution/db-3.1.17.tar.bz2 http://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/os/unix/linux/ROCKlinux/ROCK-2.0/gnome2/evolution/db-3.1.17.tar.bz2
02:23 < nzg> 22 download/gnome2/evolution/db-3.1.17.tar.gz http://www.sleepycat.com/update/snapshot/db-3.1.17.tar.gz
02:24 < mnemoc> uhm...
02:24 < nzg> omg... trying to understand what it does... ;-)
02:25 < nzg> i'm not very far with shell-scripts :)
02:25 < mnemoc> for each .cksum-err file
02:25 < mnemoc> remove the .cksum-err part
02:25 < mnemoc> y=x without the leading download
02:26 < mnemoc> and set 0 on the checksum of every [D] on the corresponding .desc file
02:26 < nzg> k, thx
02:26 < mnemoc> _it_has_not_been_tested_
02:27 < nzg> worst case i'll have do download some bz2 and a few .desc
02:27 < nzg> so np with it
02:27 < mnemoc> :)
02:28 < mnemoc> if that work, run ./scripts/Create-CksumPatch -all to get the new checksums
02:28 < nzg> ;-)
02:30 < nzg> just wait a second, because i'm really interested in the ck-sum error at mysql
02:30 < mnemoc> diff -rduN mirrorone directone
02:31 < nzg> yes, but first it needs to be here ;-)
02:31 < nzg> i want something bigger than my isdn...
02:31 < mnemoc> :p
02:32 < nzg> but now i know that you get practically around 630 megs throug one isdn-line in 24hrs ;-)
02:33 < nzg> since i leave school in a few weeks, i hope i will not have to pay for this ;-)
02:35 < nzg> i just wonder why the provider drops the connection after 24:00:0[1-9]
02:36 < mnemoc> to not let youu have servers in your line
02:39 < nzg> seems i canceled de decompress too early, bzip says there's something wrong at the end...
02:39 < nzg> sry
02:40 < nzg> so it was my fault...
02:42 < netrunne1> mnemoc: nope, it's more that t-online uses radius for accounting, and records are only generated at connection up/down
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02:42 < netrunner> re btw :)
02:43 < nzg> wb netrunner
02:43 < nzg> and they want daily records?
02:44 < nzg> i'm not using t-offline btw, it's arcor or at least it says
02:44 < netrunner> nzg: at least. if you idle on dsl, they disconnect you after about 20 mins.
02:45 < nzg> this somehow provokes the use of kazaa to keep online ;-)
02:45 < mnemoc> :p
02:46 < netrunner> nzg: since a month or so they seem to randomly disconnect even with traffic more than once a day, you see this in my logon/off messages in this chan. I have constant traffic on my server and am nevertheless disconnected.
02:46 < netrunner> n8
02:46 < nzg> hm
02:46 < mnemoc> n8 net*
02:46 < nzg> n8 netrunner
02:49 < mnemoc> here you can be continuesly connected (with the same ip) for years if you don't reboot your machine :)
02:49 < nzg> sounds good ;-)
02:50 < nzg> i just get a more or less unresponsive line with pings around 1 second, and after a few reconnects it's ok again...
02:51 < mnemoc> i loose a two-year ip on a server i maintain thanks to a linux24 remote vulnerability :(
02:52 < mnemoc> .oO( i can't remember the version.... maybe i need to sleep )o
02:53 < nzg> ;-)
02:53 < nzg> i don't know how many vulerabilities are on my server/router...
02:54 < nzg> it's pretty old... i know of at least three, one 2.2.10 and two cvs issues
02:54 < mnemoc> :p
02:56 < nzg> i put some chains in front, that keeps them bound ;-)
02:57 < mnemoc> if they can't reach they can't explode ^^
02:57 < nzg> yep ;-)
02:58 < nzg> noone needs to access my cvs anyway ;-)
03:03 < nzg> i think i start with a livecd, then i can copy the system i build for my server/router on it via network what should be faster
03:05 < mnemoc> .oO( livecd target works? )
03:05 < nzg> iirc yes
03:07 < mnemoc> good :)
03:08 < nzg> we'll see when it's finished
03:08 < nzg> i don't know how long the build will take
03:09 < mnemoc> me neither
03:11 < nzg> at least one virtue of being at a boarding-school is that i have enough people here who are willing to let me test it on their computers ;-)
03:11 < mnemoc> :-)
03:12 < nzg> i got one of them to rock already ;-)
03:13 < nzg> and another is going to install it after exams are over ;-)
03:13 < mnemoc> you are in the best scenario for rock, clone-machines ;)
03:14 < nzg> yes, it would be even greater if i would be inhouse, then i would have a build-cluster ;-)
03:15 < mnemoc> my poor-desktop target is almost ready but it's too unstandard to share :\
03:16 < nzg> at least some people are happy if they can get fresh desktop isos
03:16 < mnemoc> well yes
03:17 < nzg> it's much easier to tell a frient get and burn me $ISO than "mirror $mirror-url"
03:18 < nzg> that's how i got my rc2-isos ;-)
03:18 < mnemoc> but runit instead of sysvinit, ipsvd instead of inetd, no net-tools and xfce instead of kde or gnome make people uncorfotable
03:18  * nzg using xfce too
03:18 < mnemoc> i'll go home now...
03:18 < mnemoc> =D
03:19 < mnemoc> cu later... good luck
03:19 < nzg> you are at work?
03:19 < mnemoc> yep
03:19 < nzg> cya, thx
03:19 < nzg> good way home then
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04:08 < nzg> moin blindcoder
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04:21 < mipooh> hi i read that rocklinux was from austria, i can read english but it would be much easier and faster for me to read in german. does someone know a website about rocklinux in german?
04:25 < mnemoc> rehi
04:25 < mnemoc> most people here speaks german but all documentation is in english
04:27 < mipooh> what a pity takes me at least 5 times as much as to read in german
04:28 < mnemoc> :\
04:29 < nzg> wb mnemoc
04:30 < nzg> hm
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05:06 < nzg> i think i'm going to bed now
05:06 < nzg> n8
05:15 < mnemoc> n8 nzg :\
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09:39 < rxr> rehi
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12:10 < owl> moin
12:11 < dsoul> hi owl :)
12:11 < owl> hi dsoul ! how are you?
12:12 < dsoul> good :)
12:12 < owl> good to hear :))
12:12 < owl> already voted? *g*
12:12 < dsoul> :P
12:12 < dsoul> sure :)
12:12 < owl> good boy ;)
12:12 < dsoul> :]
12:13 < dsoul> will i get a candy?:P
12:13 < owl> yeah. i have cookies here ;p
12:13 < dsoul> :>
12:14  * dsoul wants cookie :P
12:15 < owl> hehe. prinzenrolle, too? ;)
12:19 < dsoul> why not :P
12:21 < owl> hrhr. k. 
12:22 < dsoul> [:
12:23 < owl> oh crap. half an cookie is even too large for my mouth *feeling like a sausage*
12:26 < dsoul> maybe try not to eat whole cookie at once :P
12:27 < owl> *g* maybe should help :P
12:28 < dsoul> :>
12:28  * netrunner can eat a whole :)
12:29 < owl> *rofl* i 'm really believing you :p
12:30 < dsoul> netrunner do you want to tell us more about it?:P
12:33 < owl> .oO( netrunner seems to be an breitmaulfrosch )
12:35 < owl> http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,303977,00.html
12:38 < owl> http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,303984,00.html < GAAAAAAAAAAH!
12:49 < nzg> moin
12:52 < dsoul> hi nzg 
12:52 < owl> hi nzg 
12:53 < nzg> hi dsoul,owl
12:57 < nzg> uargh my fellow lodger just came back... damn
12:57 < owl> <- off (horseback-riding)
12:57 < owl> bbl
12:57 < nzg> have fun
12:57 < owl> thx
12:57 < dsoul> by owl 
12:57 < nzg> cya owl
13:29 < blindy> moin
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15:28 < nzg> hm, my monitor flickers, if the cable from the amp to the speakers lies on top of it ;-)
15:28 < nzg> and i pump up the volume...
15:28 < nzg> *degauss*
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16:52 < mnemoc> moin
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16:56 < dsoul> hi mnemoc 
16:56 < mnemoc> hi dsoul
17:00 < nzg> moin mnemoc
17:10 < nzg> hm, where do i put the smap.cfg ?
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18:53 < owl> remoin
18:54 < owl> lalala. PDS is in the european parliament :)))
18:55 < blindy> what?
18:57 < owl> http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,304017,00.htm
18:58 < blindy> 404
18:59 < owl> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. 
18:59 < blindy> htm_l_
18:59 < owl> oh. sorry. :(
19:02 < blindy> nice :)
19:03 < owl> jep. 
19:04 < owl> <- got 3 showers for free today, btw. *shivers*
19:04 < owl> its soooooo cold! *continueing shivering*
19:05 < blindy> hehe
19:05 < blindy> damn rain, hm?
19:06 < owl> not funny. i started horsebackriding and it started to rain - the first time. then i ride without saddle and "trense" and it started the 2nd time. and when i brought peru the food, and brought him back to the "koppel" it rained the 3rd time O_o
19:06 < owl> yeah ;P
19:11 < blindy> hehe
19:11 < owl> blllllllllll :p not funny
19:11 < blindy> not funny for you :P
19:12 < owl> yeps. ;)
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19:18 < owl> wb nzg 
19:18 < nzg> thx owl
19:19 < nzg> remoin
19:19 < owl> de nada
19:19 < nzg> it's too hot here...
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19:20 < nzg> moin netrunner
19:21 < owl> nzg: hot? where? how many degrees?
19:21 < owl> hi netrunner 
19:22 < nzg> owl: near bonn, the sun is shinig and at least in my room it's to hot although my window is open wide all the day...
19:22 < owl> O_o ok
19:23 < nzg> weather-forecast says it's 16°C
19:23 < owl> oki. hm. i guess it has about 15 °C here, too... but i was used to have about 25 ° - 30 ° C... 
19:25 < nzg> that's too much for me, i prefer something arount 15-20 _inside_
19:27 < owl> hmm. dpeends. it was too hot for horsebackriding (ok, it was quite cool, when we ride  through the water) but  the average temerpatin was to hot
19:28 < nzg> i was outside around 1400 and it was optimal temprature, but here my pc's + monitor replace any heater...
19:29 < nzg> i never rode on a horse, so i cant's say how streinig it is
19:37 < owl> hehe. you should do ;)
19:37 < owl> (especially jumping is funny ;)
19:40 < owl> *gggg* ich glaub ich weiss was ich meinem freund zum geburtstag schenke
19:40 < owl> aaargh. wrong window
19:41 < nzg> ;-)
19:41 < netrunner> riding a horse is nice, you can go through woods, visit a nearby lake and go swimming for refreshing :)
19:41 < nzg> i surely will, i have a long life in front of me
19:41 < netrunner> only thing I always refused to do was jumping :)
19:41 < nzg> netrunner: you can walk to the lake ;-)
19:42 < netrunner> nzg: but on a horse it's easier to spot a free place :)
19:43 < nzg> no, almost anybody on a lake is either in the water or laying on the side
19:43 < owl> netrunner: ack. and swimming with horses is great - or just riding into the sea
19:43 < owl> netrunner: why refused jumping?
19:43 < nzg> hm, that seems good for lazy people like me
19:43 < netrunner> owl: dunno, too much action :)
19:44 < netrunner> gosh, it must be years, since I was riding for the last time ...
19:45 < owl> netrunner: hehe. you should start it again (believe me, you still can ride, even after a long break) 
19:46 < netrunner> I probably only forgot the stuff like caring for the horses :) I remember there's a curry comb and a brush, and one has to clean the shoes ...
19:47 < owl> curry comb?
19:47 < netrunner> striegel
19:47 < netrunner> I looked it up ;)
19:47 < owl> ah. yeah. fellkratzer, striegel, kardaetsche, hufkratzer and wurzelbuerste
19:47 < owl> cheater :p
19:52 < owl> http://www.roemervilla-moeckenlohe.de/moeck-06.htm << rofl. "what's wron on this picture"
19:52 < netrunner> *g* my gf made her first website
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19:53 < netrunner> owl: which picture?
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19:53 < owl> the first
19:54 < netrunner> with the 2 cids?
19:54 < netrunner> nothing?
19:55 < owl> aeh. the 2nd. 
19:55 < owl> (sorry. didn't recognize the first)
19:57  * netrunner cannot find anything.
19:58 < nzg> the car-tracks in the dust?
19:58 < owl> http://www.roemervilla-moeckenlohe.de/bilder/moeck-10.jpg << this one. 
19:59 < nzg> owl: something cut into the picture oder something historical
19:59 < owl> norwegian horses and roemisch... - no way. don't think they really had norwegian horses... 
19:59 < owl> nzg: nah ;p
20:00 < nzg> gnarf
20:01 < owl> hm?
20:01  * nzg has no clue about horses (except that you can ride them and make salami of them)
20:02 < owl> no! not again a horse-eating boy! *scream* :p
20:03 < nzg> never eaten horse-salami, just know that it's possible ;-)
20:04 < owl> ah. k. well then ;) you're allowed to continue breathing *eg*
20:05 < nzg> k, but i would breath even without your permission ;-)
20:05 < owl> *cries* why? why?!!! don't you accept god?! *g*
20:05 < owl> <- in strange/good mood O_o
20:05 < nzg> i prefer deer, it tasts more natural
20:06 < owl> deer?
20:06 < nzg> "wild"
20:07 < owl> aaah!. yeah. it's great. especially "hirsch"
20:07 < owl> or "hase"
20:08 < nzg> hm, god is something to guide a society, a job that can be done without further more he just not exists
20:08 < nzg> or "wildschwein"
20:08 < nzg> my uncle keeps "dammwild" on his old fields
20:08 < nzg> it's really delicious
20:09 < owl> nzg:hmm... never tried a wildschwein... you can send me one *g*
20:09 < owl> (please by ups)
20:10 < nzg> when i've my "jagdschein" i'll
20:10 < owl> oki. thx ;) 
20:10 < owl> .oO(so - i will never get one. )
20:11  * netrunner eats everything that walks across the dinner table.
20:11 < nzg> i would use DPD, don't want to give those new-worldlers more money than necessary
20:11 < owl> why? 
20:11 < nzg> i first need the money, i think it's around 5k?
20:12 < owl> netrunner: like a pig? ;)
20:12 < owl> netrunner: 5000 ????
20:12 < nzg> owl: the "jagdschein"
20:12 < nzg> netrunner: really _everything_ ?
20:13 < nzg> i should send you one of my sister's cats ;-)
20:13 < owl> nzg: ah. k. O_o
20:13 < owl> cats? pffff. to "human"
20:14 < nzg> yes, but i want to get rid of them, they awake me in the early morning when i'm at home
20:14 < netrunner> owl: well ... almost. I do not eat humans :)
20:15  * netrunner thinks dia has not enough shapes. starting xfig again ...
20:15 < owl> poor nzg *hrhr*
20:15 < owl> dia?
20:17 < owl> (a spanisch/mallorquin one)
20:17 < nzg> can you imagine how noisy the get if they are horny? it's louder than hedgehogs
20:18 < owl> nzg: hehe. we just have 2 dsungarian hamsters in front of our door... --> they're not quiet, too ;)
20:19 < nzg> ;-)
20:19 < owl> someone knows where to buy/order a flag? (a spanisch/mallorquin one)
20:20 < nzg> in front of your door? you mean their cage is there or they live there
20:20 < owl> nzg: their cage is there (and they live in this cage) 
20:20 < nzg> ;-)
20:21 < owl> (rem: we 're speaking about an cellar door)
20:22 < Vroum> Maintenance Console
20:23 < Vroum> what's that ?
20:25 < nzg> just a normal console opened by getty, but without displaying /etc/issue
20:30 < togg> moin alle
20:30 < togg> kann mir jemand kurz zusammenfassen wie ich alsa sound mit rocklinux hinkriege?
20:30 < owl> hi togg 
20:30 < togg> wie krieg ich die module fuer meine via onboard soundkarte gebaut?
20:31 < togg> alsa hab ich in die package selection schon reingenommen
20:32 < owl> indem du sie im kernel als module "makierst" und dann den kernel baust?
20:32 < togg> im kernel sind aber keine alsa module drin
20:33 < owl> haeh?
20:33 < togg> joa
20:33 < togg> 2.4.26
20:34 < owl> nen kernel bauen
20:34 < togg> oder muss ich alsa support in den kernel patchen
20:34 < nzg> du musst den soundtreiber auswählen
20:34 < togg> wie heisst der denn bei dir?
20:35 < nzg> cd $LINUX-SRC
20:35 < nzg> make menuconfig
20:35 < togg> hmpf
20:35 < togg> ich bin doch nicht blöd ;)
20:35 < nzg> Sound->
20:35 < nzg> da kannst du alles sound-betreffende einstellen
20:36 < nzg> ;-)
20:36 < togg> CONFIG_SOUND_VIA82CXXX=m
20:36 < togg> hab ich
20:36 < togg> aber trotzdem kommt kein sound
20:36 < togg> das modul lädt ja auch
20:36 < togg> woran erkenn ich ob alsa aktiv ist?
20:38 < nzg> er sollte es beim booten starten
20:38 < nzg> sonst
20:38 < nzg> rc alsa start
20:41 < nzg> alternativ: ls /dev/sound
20:42 < nzg> wenn deine soundkarte funzt, sollte da ein /dev/sound/dsp und /dev/sound/mixer sein
21:11 < netrunner> export LANG=en_EN
21:12 < netrunner> nzg: /dev/sound is for dsp, alsa has /dev/snd
21:12 < togg> nzg: die sind da, aber esd sagt kein alsa gefunden
21:12 < nzg> ;-)
21:12 < netrunner> togg: export LANG=en_EN
21:13 < togg> oops
21:13 < togg> sorry :)
21:13 < togg> i meant i have /dev/sound/* but esd says no alsa support...
21:13 < dsoul> :)
21:13 < netrunner> togg: /dev/sound is for dsp, alsa has /dev/snd
21:13 < netrunner>  .o( I have a feeling to repeat myself )
21:14 < togg> netrunner: how can i enable /dev/snd support?
21:14 < netrunner> togg: unload your oss modules, and load alsa modules.
21:14 < netrunner> oh, I meant oss, not dsp before ;)
21:14 < togg> hmm
21:14 < togg> alsa-driver rocklinux package?
21:14 < togg> is that i need?
21:15 < netrunner> jup
21:16 < netrunner> you might want to rebuild it if you built a custom kernel
21:17 < togg> btw... i have a small problem with rocknet
21:17 < togg> it says Unknown Profile: default
21:18 < togg> do i have to add interface eth0,default to /etc/network/config?
21:18 < togg> or how does it work with the profiles
21:19 < togg> because /etc/network/rocknet rocknet auto up wants a profile
21:20 < netrunner> yeah, I've seen this, forgot that I wanted to take a closer look :)
21:20 < togg> lol :)
21:20 < togg> my init script results in error due to this ;)
21:21 < togg> but interfaces are up ok either
21:24 < dsoul> maybe echo 'default' > /etc/network/profile
21:24 < netrunner> you can write (default) behind eth0 in /etc/network/config
21:50 < togg> dsoul: ive tried this
21:50 < togg> netrunner: interface eth0(default) ?
21:50 < togg> or interface eth0,(default)
21:52 < dsoul> first one 
22:11 < togg> ty :)
22:11 < togg> works
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22:59 < rxr> hi
22:59 < daja77> hi rxr
22:59 < rxr> hi daja77 
22:59 < daja77> subversion security update just uploaded to submaster ;)
23:02 < dsoul> hi rxr 
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23:14 < nzg> re
23:15 < dsoul> hi nzg 
23:15 < nzg> moin dsoul
23:19 < netrunner> daja77: scho wieder? (svn update)
23:19 < daja77> yep
23:20 < daja77> remote exploit this time
23:20 < netrunner> hm, on planetopia they tell about a nazi-email-worm ... haven't heard about this one...
23:22 < nzg> never got one of this
23:23 < nzg> the report on planetopia is rather unqualified
23:24 < netrunner> does rock work on mipsel?
23:24 < netrunner> (question from guy in otherchan)
23:24 < daja77> yeah that burkhard schröder guy appeared, who is lughed at ccc...
23:25 < netrunner> fake: ping
23:26 < nzg> wow, he has the mighty xp-firewall, that can be disabled by simply calling an api so windows-mediaplayer can access online-resources anyway
23:35 < rxr> daja77: svn patch hand-mergewd
23:39 < rxr> also in 2.0 now
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23:57 < daja77> rxr: why merging?
23:58 < rxr> because trunk already had 1.0.4 ...
23:59 < daja77> oh dam
23:59 < daja77> +n
23:59 < rxr> not a big deal
23:59 < daja77> somehow missed that update
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