--- Log opened Tue Jun 15 00:00:57 2004
00:12 < rxr> n8 all
00:13 < dsoul> n8 rxr 
00:13 < jsaw> gn8 rxr
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01:01 < esden> ti to
01:01 < esden> ups
01:01 < esden> I mean hi ho ;)
01:02 < MadTux> :)
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01:09 < jsaw> esden: svn log -r 3216 svn://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/
01:10 < jsaw> (hi btw) and hi MadTux 
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01:10 < MadTux> greetings jsaw
01:11 < esden> hi jsaw 
01:12 < esden> waiting for svn to respond
01:12 < esden> hrm
01:13 < esden> hehe nice jsaw 
01:13 < jsaw> :)
01:13 < esden> you guys really want me to stay as it seems ;)
01:13 < MadTux> esden, ?
01:14 < esden> MadTux: ?
01:15 < MadTux> nevermind.
01:16 < esden> MadTux: I meant the log from rene
01:16 < MadTux> yes i know.
01:16 < MadTux> jsaw, kindly pasted the log to me on a query
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01:23 < sack_> good evening guys :)
01:24 < sack_> can anyone tell me where to add services at startup under rock? As far as my understanding goes, I'd try the inittab file but rocks structure differs so I'd like to get sure
01:25 < MadTux> stone..
01:25 < MadTux> /etc/rc.d/init.d/
01:25 < MadTux> 'stone'
01:26 < sack_> ah cool man thx a lot
01:29 < MadTux> welcome.
01:30 < sack_> mmh actually there s no stone file @/etc/rc.d/init.d
01:30 < MadTux> stone is a command..
01:30 < MadTux> :)
01:31 < MadTux> i just ment /etc/rc.d/init.d for u to see where the initfiles are.
01:31 < MadTux> and u can use stone to conigure runlevels and so
01:31 < sack_> ah okay ;)
01:32 < MadTux> just try it and if u have questions ask :)
01:32 < sack_> cool
01:32 < sack_> :)
01:33 < sack_> okay, configuring the services with stone makes live easy
01:34 < sack_> but I'd like to know more ;)
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01:34 < sack_> how'd u do it manually, what does stone basically do
01:43 < sack_> okay stone creates the startup and kill scripts for the chosen runlevels @/etc/rc.d/rcN :) thx again 4 your help MadTux
01:43 < MadTux> :)
01:43 < MadTux> glad i was helpful
01:46 < sack_> you were indeed. Writin those scripts by myself would ve troubled me a lot :)
01:46 < MadTux> hehe :)
01:46 < MadTux> I'm a rock newbie.. but i try to help others if possible :)
01:50 < sack_> yeah i am a rock newb too
01:50 < sack_> but it roxxx i gotta say :D
01:51 < MadTux> indeed.
01:51 < MadTux> sack_, so u already run it?
01:51 < sack_> where r u from btw
01:52 < MadTux> I'm from Costa Rica, you?
01:52 < sack_> Germany
01:52 < MadTux> Gut. :)
01:52 < MadTux> most rockers are actually in germany
01:52 < sack_> yeah i run it and as I said I could also make out what it does
01:52 < sack_> really?
01:52 < sack_> oh :)
01:52 < sack_> u speak German or just know a few words?
01:53 < MadTux> nein.. my deutsch ist scheisse.
01:53 < MadTux> mein.
01:53 < sack_> well thats a few important words though
01:53 < sack_> ^^
01:54 < MadTux> sack_, but for example there is esden here whom is one of the core folks.. and is from germany
01:55 < MadTux> sack_, also cores can be rxr, SMP, blindy, jsaw, netrunner ..
01:55 < MadTux> i dunno there are just too many of them here :)
01:55 < sack_> oh interesting
01:56 < sack_> I didnt dare hanging out in this channel a lot because I am afraid of being too noob ;)
01:56 < MadTux> u can see all of them at the rock linux developers fallery
01:56 < MadTux> http://www.rocklinux.org/gallery.html
01:56 < dsoul> :)
01:56 < MadTux> do not be affraid.. most of them are very nice people.. if not all. :)
01:57 < sack_> I believe so but usually I really try hard to find information on my own before asking
01:58 < sack_> lol your pic is first on the page man
01:59 < MadTux> sack_, sure thats the right way to do it.. but its always ok to ask.. anyone awake will help
01:59 < sack_> what the hell r u tellin me about u being a rock newb? :-D
01:59 < MadTux> oh. *g*
02:00 < sack_> thats cool Tux I will start hangin out here regularly
02:00 < sack_> :)
02:00 < sack_> u damn faker ;)
02:00 < MadTux> ok ok maybe i'm not a complete newbie :)
02:00 < MadTux> just 1/2 a bit :)
02:00 < MadTux> anyways. if u got more questions just ask :)
02:01 < sack_> thats it for now I think :)
02:01 < MadTux> faker? :(
02:02 < sack_> no - ...
02:02 < sack_> misunderstanding
02:02 < sack_> the other way - fakin to be a noob :)
02:02 < sack_> not fakin your nick
02:04 < sack_> got me right now?
02:04 < MadTux> yeah yeah sure :P
02:05 < sack_> k :)
02:05 < MadTux> i'm just teasing
02:05 < sack_> little scared - respect 4 authorities =P
02:06 < MadTux> bah :P
02:06 < sack_> ;)
02:06 < MadTux> now u are making fun of me.
02:06 < sack_> ^^
02:06 < dsoul> lol
02:06 < MadTux> oh there is dsoul
02:06 < MadTux> he is a rock master.
02:07 < dsoul> MadTux :P
02:07 < MadTux> :D
02:07  * MadTux still wonders how did sack_ actually knew he was on the rock devs gallery
02:08 < MadTux> oh my nickname is there.. and the fact that i said i was from .cr made it even easier.
02:09 < sack_> yeah the nickname was my hint
02:09 < sack_> didnt check back the domain though
02:09 < MadTux> well as u might have seen by now.. there are a LOT of germans 
02:10 < sack_> pretty vague call but it worked
02:10 < sack_> yeah
02:11 < esden> cu guys
02:11 < sack_> cu
02:14 < sack_> hey Tux, I'll reboot my system now to check out if everythings workin alright now :)
02:14 < dsoul> bye esden 
02:14  * MadTux leaving to have dinner with his belover bride.
02:14 < MadTux> beloved*
02:15 < MadTux> Gutte nacht mein fruends.
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02:15 < sack_> cu all
02:15 < jsaw> cu sack_ 
02:15 < dsoul> bye sack_ 
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04:36 < mnemoc> rehi
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07:34 < netrunner> moinsen
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08:07 < _BoS> moin
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09:06 < netrunner> Do I read this right that gcc34 built kernels are not affected?
09:06 < netrunner> http://linuxreviews.org/news/2004-06-11_kernel_crash/index.html
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09:16 < cchamilt> Hello
09:16 < cchamilt> Has anyone used rockplug 0.0.9 to re-plug-in usb devices?
09:17 < cchamilt> I can't get it to work after the initial plug in.
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09:18 < blindcoder> moin
09:18 < cchamilt> hi bc
09:18 < blindcoder> moin chris!
09:18 < blindcoder> long time no see, how are you?
09:18 < cchamilt> Is usb working for you?
09:18 < blindcoder> like a charm
09:18 < cchamilt> Yeah, I haven't had much time for irc lately.
09:18 < blindcoder> just now I have a USB-Harddisk attached
09:19 < cchamilt> I can't get devices to replug.
09:19 < blindcoder> heh, I'll probably have no time either starting this weekend
09:19 < blindcoder> hmm, I'm using 2.6.6
09:19 < cchamilt> I am using rockplug .0.9 and 2.6.6 too.
09:19 < blindcoder> same here
09:20 < cchamilt> The first plug is fine, it seems to miss the event after - no rockplug report to messages.
09:22 < cchamilt> I guess I will try to figure out something.
09:22 < blindcoder> hmm
09:23 < blindcoder> wrong [OU]HCI?
09:23 < cchamilt> Maybe, it is an ali based laptop so I dont know.
09:24 < cchamilt> If it is, the kernel is doing it since I didn't make them modules.  I will modulize them and see.
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09:58 < owl> moin
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10:02 < owl> blindcoder: ?
10:13 < blindcoder> moin owl
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10:32 < daja77> netrunner: they haven't tried with 3.4, doesn't mean it is safe then
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10:43 < rxr> moin
10:44 < daja77> hi rxr
10:44 < daja77> http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/technologie/0,1518,304204,00.html 
10:45 < dsoul> hi rxr 
10:48 < esden> moin
10:48 < rxr> moin esden 
10:48 < daja77> hi esden
10:49 < esden> thanks for the dedication in the checkin ;)
10:49 < esden> @ rxr
10:49 < esden> hi daja77 
10:49 < daja77> hi esden
10:49 < esden> hi daja77 
10:49 < daja77> damn duplicates
10:49 < esden> hehe
10:51  * daja77 cheking out where the ms booth is on linuxtag
10:53 < dsoul> hi esden 
10:54 < netrunner> rxr: shall I add valentin to the infodrome? if yes, what mailadr?
10:54 < netrunner> moin btw :)
10:57 < rxr> valentin-pub@rocklinux-consulting.de
11:00 < blindcoder> everyone prep'ed for LT?
11:00 < daja77> not really
11:00 < daja77> having to check for a place to rest
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11:17 < esden> hi clifford 
11:17 < esden> hi tfing_ 
11:18 < clifford> yo.
11:18 < daja77> someone played with the dietlibc 0.26 release?
11:18 < daja77> hi clifford 
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11:20 < fake> rxr: ping
11:21 < fake> clifford: netrunner will sleep in the gym hall
11:21 < fake> daja77: here?
11:21 < daja77> erhm yes
11:22 < fake> have you booked/found a hotel in karlsruhe yet?
11:22 < daja77> no
11:23 < fake> i'm about to book for clifford, raffi and me
11:23 < fake> wanna join? ;)
11:23 < daja77> ah k. where
11:23 < fake> the queens where we were last year
11:23 < daja77> think so, gym hall is no way
11:23 < daja77> the queens is overbooked from 23-24
11:24 < fake> damn
11:24 < fake> alternatives?
11:25 < fake> .oO( now that i think of it - i could sleep in the vw bus...)
11:25 < fake> that's a good idea
11:25 < daja77> ttp://www.linuxtag.org/2004/anreise.html
11:25 < fake> (tm)
11:25 < daja77> +h
11:26 < daja77> the link for the queens on that page vanished >_<
11:27 < fake> daja77: did you check with the other one on that page?
11:27 < daja77> i checked the booking page from queens hotel, you can book online there
11:28 < fake> i think i will really sleep in the bus
12:06 < esden> cu guys
12:06  * esden -> uni
12:06 -!- esden is now known as esden|bbl
12:06 < fake> bye esden
12:08 < dsoul> bye esden|bbl 
12:17 < daja77> clifford: seems i've found a hotel
13:09 < StefanG> for linuxtag?
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13:22 < daja77> yep
13:36 -!- esden|bbl is now known as esden
13:37 < esden> re hi
13:40 < netrunner> oh, I might get around the toefl-test for my master :)
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13:54 < blindcoder> re esden 
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14:45 < rxr> hi clifford 
14:45 < daja77> hi rxr
14:45 < rolla> re
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14:52 < blindy> rehi
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14:58 < daja77> hi blindy 
15:02 < blindy> hi daja77 
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15:02 < dsoul> hi blindy 
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15:19  * netrunner continuing gcc34 patches ...
15:20 < daja77> which packages?
15:21 < netrunner> tse3
15:21 < netrunner> I think up to now everybody only fixed packages included in desktop target ... now in generic are a few more, this is why clifford got so many errors
15:23 < daja77> i only do generic builds
15:27 < netrunner> desktop saves some time :)
15:27 < netrunner> I sometimes even exclude gnome stuff... :)
15:28 < daja77> hehe sure 
15:30 < rxr> gnome? What is that?
15:30 < netrunner> like a dwarf, but smaller :)
15:31 < daja77> gnome = assembly of broken code
15:31 < netrunner> rxr: status update: fake picks up the equipment (and me). we'll arrive tue, ~1600
15:32 < rxr> netrunner: cool
15:32 < rxr> netrunner: I'm still unsure if I can make it ...
15:33 < rxr> daja77: yep - w/ Gnome-1.6 on susans iBook even the desktop icons are broken - when one clicks on them some error dialog is displayed
15:33 < rxr> daja77: s.th. like "do not know mime type s.th. bla ..:"
15:33 < daja77> lol
15:34 < daja77> you could tell the gnome guy on ltag ^^
15:34 < daja77> guys even
15:34 < rxr> I guess simply re-updating all the many gnome packges will already do this
15:34 < daja77> but relax gnome debian and gentoo are far away from us
15:34 < netrunner> ah, tse3 fixed :)
15:35 < rxr> ah _AND_ the gnome terminal in transparent mode is really really slow now
15:35 < daja77> d'oh I even use it on kde for that
15:35 < rxr> unusable slow - and with solid background it is more then 3 times (!!!) faster than konsole in most cases
15:35 < daja77> kde is still dog slow, unfortunatly
15:35 < daja77> working with it is quite nice anyway
15:36  * rxr updating firefox - since I can not find a screenshot of the new default theme ...
15:36 < daja77> ^^
15:37 < rxr> we will have a new package selection soon: minimal-desktop or so
15:37 < rxr> the one I prepare to fit on a 500MB CD for the Linux Intern ...
15:37 < daja77> we would need sth like that for live cd too
15:39 < rxr> yeah
15:39 < rxr> + automatic doc stuff "off" - so less wasted space for such stuff ...
15:40 < rxr> and the live-cd could wipe header files ...
15:42  * netrunner trying to remember which programm he wanted to compile that needed tse3 that needed a fix ...
15:42 < daja77> lol
15:43 < daja77> don't drink and code!
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15:59 < MadTux> hello.
16:00 < daja77> moin miguel
16:02 < MadTux> Good day Daniel :)
16:02 < blindy> moin MadTux
16:03 < MadTux> Benjy!
16:03 < MadTux> i mean blindy!
16:03 < dsoul> hi MadTux :)
16:03 < MadTux> hello dsoul (what's ur name btw?)
16:03 < rxr> I merge some mozilla stuff into 2.0 - should I also merge the firefox and thunderbird additions? Or rather not?
16:04 < rxr> votes, please
16:04 < dsoul> MadTux Michael :)
16:04 < daja77> rxr: please do so
16:04 < dsoul> rxr sure
16:05 < rxr> adding?
16:05 < MadTux> rxr: add them.
16:05  * netrunner votes for add
16:06 < esden> damn sendmail
16:06 -!- esden is now known as esden|bbl
16:09 < MadTux> nety, esdy ¡
16:10  * netrunner hugs maddytuxy
16:11 < MadTux> how are u doing Andreas?
16:11  * MadTux is in a very good mood today
16:12 < netrunner> indifferent. I wonder why some of my umls mount their rootfs, some don't.
16:12 < MadTux> same systems?
16:13 < netrunner> sure. different builds.
16:15 < netrunner> hm, the working one is .25 ...
16:18 < MadTux> mm..
16:21 < netrunner> hm ... the kernel might be linked to some libs, and those are another version in their build/bla/ than in my host system.
16:21 < netrunner> no, not dynamically :/
16:22 < daja77> ah speaking of kernel, i should port this damn patch once more
16:22 < MadTux> daja77: have a lot of fun :)
16:22  * netrunner -> home
16:26 < MadTux> oyasumi netrunner 
16:40 < dsoul> rxr in last news on rock webpage ...in SVG ->and<- exported PostScript(tm)... :)
16:40 < Vroum> hi *
16:41 < dsoul> hi Vroum 
16:42 < Vroum> MadTux: you here ?
16:42 < MadTux> hi Vroum yes i am
16:42 < Vroum> :p
16:42 < Vroum> seems have pb
16:42 < Vroum> :)
16:42 < Vroum> it build normally
16:43 < Vroum> but i can't create iso
16:43 < Vroum> it doesn't want
16:43 < Vroum> :/
16:43 < MadTux> did u build the bootdisk target?
16:43 < mnemoc> moin
16:44 < Vroum> ??
16:44 < dsoul> hi mnemoc 
16:44 < Vroum> moin mnemoc 
16:44 < MadTux> mnemoc: !
16:44 < MadTux> brb
16:44 < mnemoc> hi dsoul, Vroum, _MadTux
16:44 < dsoul> Vroum what errors do you have?
16:45 < Vroum> sh-2.05b# ./scripts/Create-ISO myiso default
16:45 < Vroum>   [16:44:32] Removing old files with same prefix ...
16:45 < Vroum>   [16:44:32] Reading configs and creating ISO index ...
16:45 < Vroum> cat: build/default-2.0.2-x86-pentium-32-router/isofs.txt: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type
16:45 < Vroum> in english it is that he doesn't find the file
16:46 < dsoul> try run Build-Target second time
16:46 < rxr> dsoul: fixed - in the static version the next full hour ...
16:47 < mnemoc> hi rxr
16:47 < dsoul> :)
16:47 < mnemoc> rxr: will you consider bdb patch?
16:47 < rxr> mnemoc: I take a look
16:47 < mnemoc> thanks =)
16:47 < rxr> mnemoc: maybe you want to point out some particular revision
16:48 < mnemoc> there is only one on submaster
16:48 < Vroum> dsoul: same error
16:48 < mnemoc> rxr: 2004050205240630595
16:49 < mnemoc> currently you get default symlinks only if you build bdb41
16:49 < mnemoc> if you build 40 or 42 you don't
16:49 < dsoul> Vroum what Build-Target is saying?
16:50 < Vroum> it build normally
16:50 < mnemoc> that patch tries to guess which of the active bdb versions should be the default
16:55 < dsoul> Vroum very strange
16:59 < mnemoc> Vroum: do you see 'Create iso description.' at the end of Build-Target?
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17:03 < Vroum> dsoul: no -cfg option
17:03 < Vroum> hum i look
17:04 < Vroum> -> Copying library files.
17:04 < Vroum> -> Copying kernel modules.
17:04 < Vroum> -> Create init script.
17:04 < Vroum> -> Creating initrd image.
17:04 < Vroum> -> Copy kernel image.
17:04 < Vroum> -> Create isolinux setup.
17:04 < Vroum> -> Create iso description.
17:04 < Vroum> -> Cleaning up.
17:04 < Vroum> yes it is here
17:10 < mnemoc> uhm...
17:11 < mnemoc> that should have created build/default-2.0.2-x86-pentium-32-router/isofs.txt
17:11 < mnemoc> find build/ -name isofs.txt
17:12 < Vroum> build/default-2.0.2-x86-pentium-32-router/root/usr/src/linux-2.4.25-rock/Documentation/filesystems/isofs.txt
17:16 < dsoul> error in router target?
17:17 < Vroum> i apply a patch from madtux
17:17 < Vroum> and it doesn't work :/
17:17 < Vroum> i would check with him
17:18 < mnemoc> can you check target/router/build.sh in the 'Create iso description' part ?
17:19 < mnemoc> maybe adding set -x before
17:20 < Vroum> cat > ../isofs.txt <<- EOT
17:20 < Vroum>         BOOT    -b isolinux.bin -c boot.catalog
17:20 < Vroum>         BOOTx   -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table
17:20 < Vroum>         DISK1   build/${ROCKCFG_ID}/ROCK/router /
17:20 < Vroum> EOT
17:21 < Vroum> EOF no ?
17:21 < Vroum> :p
17:21 < mnemoc> no problem.... it's just a token
17:21 < Vroum> ok
17:22 < mnemoc> add pwd before 'cat' and cat ../isofs.txt after the EOT ;-)
17:24 < Vroum> hum ?
17:25 < mnemoc> pwd; cat > [blah]
17:25 < mnemoc> [blah]
17:25 < mnemoc> EOT
17:25 < mnemoc> cat ../isofs.txt
17:25 < mnemoc> somehow that's not working... let's see why ;)
17:27 < Vroum> :p
17:27 < Vroum> good debugger :p
17:28 < Vroum> BOOT    -b isolinux.bin -c boot.catalog
17:28 < Vroum> BOOTx   -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table
17:28 < Vroum> DISK1   build/default-2.0.2-x86-pentium-32-router/ROCK/router /
17:28 < Vroum> hum hum
17:28 < mnemoc> and the pwd ?
17:28 < Vroum>  /router
17:29 < Vroum> hum hum
17:29 < Vroum> :p
17:29 < Vroum> # ls /router/
17:29 < Vroum> initrd.img  isolinux.bin  isolinux.cfg  vmlinuz
17:29 < Vroum> :p
17:29 < Vroum> sale bete
17:34 < mnemoc> hm... using that 'professional' debuging method see when tha s.th is moving to there
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18:28 < owl> remoin
18:28 < dsoul> hi owl 
18:28 < owl> hi dsoul 
18:29 < owl> mwah. this printer is slooooooowly *yawn*
18:29 < mnemoc> hi owlinette
18:30 < owl> hi bullette. aeh. mnemocinette
18:30 < mnemoc> :\
18:31 < owl> hm?
18:31 < dsoul> :>
18:32 < mnemoc> that's a female suffix
18:33 < owl> *rofl* poor mnemocinette *vbeg*
18:34 < dsoul> lol
18:34 < mnemoc> ^^
18:35 < owl> *hrhr* mnemoc :p
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18:37 < owl> hi netrunner 
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19:03 < netrunner> hi owl
19:03 < netrunner> somehow I get more and more disconnects ... I wonder why.
19:03 < mnemoc> change that silly isp
19:04 < netrunner> mnemoc: :P will do.
19:22 < mnemoc> there is any _easy_ way to limit rsync/ssh?
19:28 < netrunner> limit in what way?
19:32 < mnemoc> bandwidth
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20:18  * netrunner feeling how hard it is to manually boot rock from network :(
20:20 < fake> on which arch?
20:24 < Vroum> is it possible to use /dev/hdXX instead of /dev/ide/hostX/busX/targetX/lunX/partX ?
20:26 < netrunner> x86
20:27 < netrunner> my sony vaio. it cannot boot the cds.
20:29 < fake> netrunner: pxeboot?
20:29 < fake> Vroum: depends where you want to use it
20:29 < Vroum> where ?
20:30 < fake> where do you want to use /dev/hdxx instead of /dev/ide...
20:30 < fake> for some kernel parameters you can use the hdxx style, for some it is even necesary
20:31 < Vroum> all the time
20:31 < Vroum> i want to use al the time
20:31 < fake> Vroum: why would you like to do that?
20:31 < Vroum> i don't see necessity of this notation
20:31 < fake> oh, it's way superior
20:32 < Vroum> because of ?
20:33 < fake> because the first ide drive is the first target on the first bus of the first ide host controller
20:33 < Vroum> ...
20:33 < Vroum> i prefer old notation
20:33 < Vroum> more simple
20:33 < Vroum> how to set it up ?
20:34 < fake>  /dev/discs/discX is no acceptible alternative?
20:34 < Vroum> oh oh
20:34 < Vroum> i don't see that
20:34 < Vroum> ok
20:34 < Vroum> look great
20:35 < Vroum> thx
20:35 < fake> you can tell devfsd to create old-compatible device symlinks
20:35 < Vroum> :)
20:35 < Vroum> no it's ok
20:35 < Vroum> i don't see this
20:35 < Vroum> :)
20:35 < fake> but you shoukld really try to use the devfs notation ;)
20:35 < fake> you're gonna like it soon *g*
20:36 < Vroum> maybe
20:36 < Vroum> or maybe not
20:36 < Vroum> :)
20:47 < owl> remoin
20:48 < owl> lalalalalala. life is such a confusing crap. boys, boys, boys *headshake*
20:48  * fake innocent
20:49  * blindy too
20:50 < blindy> hmm
20:50 < owl> hm?
20:51 < owl> why innocent? *g*
20:51 < blindy> why the fuck is cross compiler fixed to on if I build for sparc64 on sparc64?
20:51 < blindy> just in case :)
21:03 < netrunner> fake: nope. I had my custom bootdisk with pcmcia-support still on the /boot of that laptop ;)
21:03 < netrunner> the one I created at last years devmeeting ;) (the kernel+initrd)
21:06 < fake> netrunner: i remember
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21:34 < owl> hmmmmmm. someone wants  to see the "kaltenberger ritterturnier"?
21:35 < fake> no.
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21:37 < owl> :(
21:39 < fake> i bet they're only open when the evil daystar is visible
21:40 < rxr> rehi
21:41 < fake> hi rene
21:41 < fake> rxr: what do you suggest should i do against the broken pip / glibs update errors?
21:41 < fake> bootsptrap a build environment using cross compile?
21:42 < rxr> fake: I do not know why this happen - maybe first review this a bit ...
21:42 < owl> fake: hm. dunno. there are also "abendveranstaltungen"
21:42 < rxr> blindy: because you _need_ a sparc64 cross compiler for the kernel ...
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21:42 < blindy> rxr: a shame that is fails miserably
21:43 < blindy> after stage 0, _everything_ fails
21:43 < owl> (ok, the "abendveranstaltungen" are beginning at 1600)
21:44 < fake> owl: see? *g*
21:44 < fake> rxr: i'll first try around a bot
21:45 < fake> *bit
21:45 < owl> fake: blll :p
21:46 < blindy> [0] 949 base/gcc3-cross
21:47 < blindy> after that, everything just gives up
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21:52 < nzg> moin
21:54 < daja77> hm have i already mentioned that cross compiling is a mess, and that's noct rock fault in general
21:54 < rxr> blindy: maybe just do not thow gcc-3.4 and glibc-2.3.4 onto SPARC if you are not willing to fix arising issues - 2.0 might be a easier going ...
21:54 < blindy> i have gcc 3.2.3
21:55 < rxr> when I built it using 2.0 the last time I got a full build.
21:55 < blindy> really strange
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21:59 < mnemoc> rehi
22:23 < rxr> hi mnemoc 
22:30 < netrunne1> wonderful... '/usr/sbin/stone: line 68: <n> Illegal instruction    dialog --stdout --title 'STONE - Setup Tool ONE - ROCK Linux System Configuration' "$@"
22:30 < netrunne1> scrolling by like hell, <n> increasing.
22:35 < rxr> the 2.0 merging with my merger script becomes fun ...
22:36 < rxr> netrunne1: gdb 
22:36 < rxr> disasemple
22:36 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner
22:36 < mnemoc> be careful with 'pkgout' and /ROCK and pkginstall
22:36 < rxr> disassemble even - to get to the illegal instruction ...
22:36 < rxr> yep - sure, please review me ...
22:38 < mnemoc> today i can't :\ .... tomorrow i will
22:38 < mnemoc> rxr: my bdb patch was done for 2.0 .... to use in 2.1 pkgcheck call need no be fixed
22:39 < netrunner> rxr: I think I pulled something essential for the dialog mode under it's behind away .
22:39 < netrunner> had to deinstall many packages because the size was miscalculated before.
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23:00 -!- esden|bbl is now known as esden
23:00 < rxr> hi esden 
23:00 < esden> hi rxr 
23:01 < blindy> moin esden 
23:01 < esden> hi blindy 
23:05 < jsaw> hi all
23:06 < esden> hi jsaw 
23:08 < rxr> hi jsaw 
23:10 < jsaw> .oO(should I or shouldn't I write an article for lwn)
23:11 < esden> jsaw: you should ... all publications about rock are appreciated I think
23:11 < jsaw> .oO(gen2 package management with portage? wtf, and they screw our announcement about package management...?)
23:14 < rxr> jsaw: write one
23:15 < jsaw> ok
23:18 < rxr> 2004 - the ROCK Linux PR year ;-)
23:18 < daja77> hehe and it works
23:18 < fake> on scripts/Download: grep: package/rene/subversion=subversion-static/subversion=subversion-static.desc: No such file or directory
23:19 < blindy> cool
23:19 < blindy> branches/2.0-stable fails already in 0-linux24-header-cross
23:19 < blindy> argh, going to fix this
23:21 < blindy> ok, just a wrong [V] tag
23:21 < jsaw> btw, ties, maybe a few ppl should fetch their suit (or other "appropriate" cloth) and visit a few companies at LT -> fund raising
23:21 < blindy> I've got enough of this
23:21 < blindy> I'm going to bed
23:21 < blindy> good night
23:21 < jsaw> gn8 blindy 
23:21 < fake> n8 blindy
23:22 < owl> gn8 blindy, sleep well
23:23 < tfing> http://linuxfr.org/2004/06/15/16502.html <- someone made a news about drock 2.0.1 on the french slashdot (or french heise if you prefer)
23:25 < jsaw> hmmm, [...] La compatibilité n'est PAS assurée entre les différentes versions majeures du système [...]
23:25 < fake> yes, yes, i agree.
23:25 < fake> what the hell did you just say?
23:25 < jsaw> that's not  really a news item for the front page, is it?
23:26 < jsaw> (the compatibility is NOT assured between the different major versions
23:26 < jsaw> )
23:26 < tfing> jsaw: it is a second page article, only appears on the left on the main page
23:26 < jsaw> s/front page/abstract/ (my fault)
23:27 < tfing> the main page is at http://linuxfr.org the news appear under "Dépêche de seconde page"
23:33 < esden> good night everyone
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23:33 < jsaw> cu esden
23:35 < jsaw> owl: http://www.americazoo.com/goto/index/mammals/94.htm
23:36 < owl> rofl.
23:37 < owl> .oO(it looks better than i'm looking even if i'm "styled")
23:38 < jsaw> even better, from now on I call you "kakapo"
23:38 < fake> night monkey - sounds suitable *g*
23:38 < jsaw> http://www.australianstamp.com/Coin-web/feature/nature/kakapo.htm
23:38 < fake> kakapo *WECHROFL*
23:38 < jsaw> :)
23:39 < fake> The Kakapo mates using what is known as the lek-mating system. This involves elaborate and intriguing courtship behaviour where the male will excavate shallow depressions or 'bowls' linked by tracks. From here, the pair perform a variety of displays and emit a booming call.
23:39  * owl takes the sword and slashes jsaw 's body
23:41 < jsaw> (and that just because I entered "owl" into www.dict.org)
23:42 < owl> WEEEEEEEEEEE!!! they have a gelaendestrecke! *jump*
23:42 < fake> o_O
23:42 < fake> .oO( vital for the mating ritual ? )
23:43 < owl> hoeh?
23:46 < jsaw> owl: did you know, you're sacred to my institute? (The Greeks and Romans made it
23:46 < jsaw>          the emblem of wisdom, and sacred to Minerva)
23:46 < jsaw> Minerva is the emblem of our society...
23:46 < fake> minerva... where do i know that from...
23:46 < fake> a reporting tool sun uses, iirc
23:48 < jsaw> having produced enough "geistiger duennpfiff" (sth. like "brain diarrhea"), I'll have to do some work now... bbl
23:57 < rxr> n8 all
23:57 < owl> gn8 rxr 
23:57 < fake> n8 rene
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