--- Log opened Wed Jun 16 00:00:16 2004
00:24 < owl> http://www.n-tv.de/5253179.html << mayday!
00:28  * fake signung up
00:30 < owl> .oO(why did i think this)
00:31 < fake> cool
00:31 < fake> premier gold membership: 9% of your income tax / year
00:34 < fake> what you get:
00:34 < fake> Gebete | Geborgenheit | Soziales Engagement | Dem Unrecht begegnen | Werte | Katholische Feste
00:36  * owl fears fake 
00:38 < fake> hm, that means, if i don't earn money, i don't even have to pay for my membership
00:38 < owl> sozialhilfe?
00:39 < fake> "Leider konnte kein/e Ansprechpartner/in in Ihrer Region gefunden werden"
00:39 < fake> damn, my area is not covered. no churches in ingolstadr
00:40 < owl> hihi. poor boy
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00:47 < daja77> fake: ?
00:49 < daja77> what religion do you wanna join?
00:49 < mX5> Hi 
00:49 < daja77> hi mX5 
00:49 < mX5> ..one question : what about the router distri ?
00:49 < fake> daja77: www.kircheneintritt.de
00:49 < mX5> still in work?
00:49 < daja77> fake: smoked too much?
00:50 < fake> daja77: i am looking for the shining path to truth and freedom
00:50 < mX5> ..-> budhism
00:51 < daja77> fake: nah that has no style, when joining a church then the catholic they have more power
00:51 < fake> daja77: that link is catholic
00:51 < daja77> nope
00:51 < fake> it isn't?
00:51 < daja77> Willkommen in der Evangelischen Kirche it says
00:51 < fake> .oO( i haven't even read that far, baka )
00:51 < daja77> lol
00:51 < daja77> it is the forst statement
00:52 < daja77> first
00:53 < daja77> nordelbische evagelisch-lutherische landeskirche <- the headline
00:53 < mX5> lol
00:53 < fake> huh?
00:53 < fake> did i link to the wrong page?
00:53 < daja77> no idea just followed your link
00:54 < fake> oh i did
00:54 < fake> the right url is:
00:54 < fake> http://www.kircheneintrittsstelle.de/
00:55 < mX5> ^^..
00:55 < daja77> heh even the page has more style
00:55 < daja77> mX5: yes it is used afaik, what's your question?
00:55 < owl> oeh? you need to be a member of a church to be able to be a "taufpate"?
00:56 < daja77> godfather ^^
00:56 < fake> owl: there are some religions that are allowed to inter-mix there
00:56 < fake> as with marrying
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00:57 < daja77> the case gets intersting when one partner has no religion at all
00:57 < daja77> wb mike
00:57 < MadTux> thx dany
00:57 < owl> ok O_o
00:57 < owl> and waht if you dont have a religion?
00:57 < MadTux> owlita!!!
00:58 < owl> hi MadTux !
00:58 < MadTux> owl, religion sucks.
00:58 < daja77> owl: actually i haven't tried yet
00:58 < MadTux> owl, believing in God is what really matters.
00:58 < owl> MadTux: ack.
00:58 < daja77> huh? and that from mike
00:58 < daja77> oh k. i see
00:58 < MadTux> daja77, i don't believe in religion.. i believe in god.
00:58 < owl> MadTux: nah (at least not for me)
00:58 < daja77> yep I understand
00:59 < MadTux> owl, u don't believe in me?!
00:59 < MadTux> daja77, good. :)
00:59 < owl> MadTux: i don't believe in god/buddha/or-who/whatever
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00:59  * fake believes that the universe has a strange sense of humor
00:59 < daja77> hehe
00:59 < MadTux> fake, full ack.
01:00 < MadTux> owl, but u do believe in the penguin power right?
01:00 < daja77> it even created such ridiculous creatures like humans
01:00 < owl> MadTux: yep ;)
01:01 < MadTux> yeah all those humans are pathetic
01:01 < daja77> they get strange ideas of bein imprtant and stuff
01:01 < fake> it's all irony, creating humans just to watch them extinct themselfes ;)
01:02 < daja77> we are working on it
01:02 < fake> the proof: too much intelligence isn't the way to go in evolution
01:02 < MadTux> fake, well that can be considered entertainment :)
01:02 < daja77> fake: too much intelligence, where?
01:02 < daja77> in fact I miss some essential intelligence
01:02 < fake> daja77: a bee won't think about the meaning of life ;)
01:02 < MadTux> "Human stupidity is infinite."
01:02 < daja77> fake: most people don't too
01:03 < fake> jsut as a clarification: to consider someone stupid, you need to have a reference point you call 'not stupid'
01:03 < Lorini_> the meaning is: there is no meaning
01:03 < daja77> just see all the idiots voting people who can't do anything but hate others
01:03 < Lorini_> n8 everybody
01:03 < daja77> n8 Lorini_ 
01:03 < fake> Lorini_: isn't that itself depressing? ;)
01:03 < fake> n8 Lorini_
01:04 < daja77> depends, if there is no meaning you can just have fun
01:04 < fake> but most of life isn't fun
01:04 < MadTux> fun != life
01:05 < daja77> not really, I try to see the humor of universe in everything
01:05 < daja77> hard to find ..
01:06 < MadTux> mortals are nothing but toys.
01:06  * daja77 plays with MadTux 
01:07 < MadTux> daja77, I'm no mortal.
01:07 < fake> funny image: humans as tipkick players
01:07 < fake> MadTux is a half-god in black
01:07 < daja77> but I am, that's why I go to bed now
01:07 < MadTux> fake, just trying to be like u master fake :)
01:09 < fake> daja77: sleep well
01:09 < fake> MadTux: i am no master, i am just a rock minion, a minor one, to be exact
01:09 < owl> gn8 daja77, sleep well
01:10 < MadTux> fake, hehe :)
01:15 < owl> gn8.
01:15 < fake> n8 kakapo!
01:16 < mnemoc> aarg... which _package_ installs Digest/SHA1.pm ?
01:17 < mnemoc> (hi! ;-)
01:17 < fake> mnemoc: openssl?
01:17 < fake> aeh
01:17 < fake> no
01:17 < fake> forget that
01:17 < mnemoc> mmm...
01:17 < mnemoc> :)
01:17 < fake> perl5:perl5: usr/lib/perl5/5.8.2/Digest.pm
01:18 < fake> it's part of perl
01:18 < fake> narf
01:18 < mnemoc> SHA1.pm
01:18 < fake> i _ should _ get _ some _ sleep
01:18 < mnemoc> ^^
01:18 < MadTux> fake, so get it my friend :)
01:18 < mnemoc> hi MadTux 
01:18 < fake> package is: perl-digest-sha1
01:18 < MadTux> hola Alejo :)
01:18 < mnemoc> oh :)  thanks
01:18 < mnemoc> hola Miguel
01:19 < MadTux> mnemoc, no need to thank him.. just pay him :)
01:19 < fake> *wuahahah*
01:19 < mnemoc> he is not like you
01:19  * fake wants no money
01:19 < fake> i want sex
01:19 < fake> ;)
01:19 < mnemoc> with me???
01:19 < fake> NO
01:19 < mnemoc> wtf
01:19 < fake> !!!
01:19 < MadTux> OMFG
01:19 < fake> i was just kidding
01:19  * MadTux runs away as fast as possible
01:19 < fake> okay
01:20 < fake> calm down ;)
01:20  * MadTux stops.
01:20 < MadTux> fake, money = sex :)
01:20 < fake> MadTux: sex is like software, it's better when it's free
01:20 < mnemoc> ACK
01:21 < fake> though i have never had non-free sex, so i can't ack that first-hand
01:22 < MadTux> hehe
01:22 < mnemoc> ^^
01:23 < mnemoc> sometimes payment is not in money
01:24 < MadTux> :)
01:24 < mnemoc> ask MadTux what he had to do to get his degree
01:25 < fake> i doubt i want to know
01:25 < MadTux> mnemoc, volunteer work at the research group of the uni for 2 years.
01:26 < mnemoc> :)
01:26 < MadTux> mnemoc, btw u do realize that i have no degree yet 
01:26 < mnemoc> oh
01:26  * MadTux will hopefully go back to uni on september.
01:28 < mnemoc> this time do the right proposal to the 'principal?' 
01:31  * MadTux slaps mnemoc
01:31 < MadTux> don't see me like a mirror.
01:31 < mnemoc> :)
01:33 < MadTux> WEEH!! got payed kernel work to do :)
01:33 < mnemoc> tell us more
01:34 < Vroum> MadTux: !!
01:34 < MadTux> selinux + bproc cluster os integration.
01:34 < mnemoc> fake: can you locate me URI/Escape.pm now?
01:34 < MadTux> thats all i can say sorry.
01:34 < MadTux> hello Vroum
01:35 < mnemoc> MadTux: that's everything i _need_ to know
01:35 < Vroum> MadTux: seems having pb to create iso
01:35 < MadTux> mnemoc, good. what do u think then?
01:35 < MadTux> Vroum, tell me more.
01:35 < mnemoc> lot of fun ;)
01:35 < mnemoc> MadTux: you install your crap at /router
01:35 < MadTux> mnemoc, indeed.
01:35 < Vroum> $build_rock is not set
01:35 < Vroum> so it write /router
01:36 < MadTux> _I_ didn't change that.
01:36 < fake> menmoc: sure
01:36 < mnemoc> your target, your fault
01:36 < MadTux> fsck... i must check.
01:36 < MadTux> mnemoc, i haven't touch it since last year!
01:36 < Vroum> you repalce $build_dir
01:36 < fake> mnemoc: perl-uri
01:36 < MadTux> Vroum, oh :)
01:36 < Vroum> :p
01:36 < MadTux> Vroum, could u rever please
01:36 < MadTux> revert even
01:36 < Vroum> yes
01:36 < Vroum> i do this
01:37 < Vroum> but
01:37 < Vroum> the isofs.txt is not good
01:37 < mnemoc> fake: thanks
01:37 < MadTux> Vroum, tell me more..
01:37 < Vroum> there is /ROCK/router/ at the end of a ligne
01:37 < Vroum> there is $.../ROCK/router/ at the end of a ligne
01:38 < MadTux> ..//
01:38 < MadTux> i mean mm..
01:38 < fake> mnemoc: you're welcome ;)
01:38 < MadTux> ok stand by please.
01:40 < fake> echo "2" > /proc/acpi/sleep
01:41 < MadTux> cya fake
01:41 < mnemoc> gn8 fake 
01:42 < Vroum> n8 fake 
01:43 < fake> ....
01:43 < fake> i just switched to stand by as MadTux told me to?
01:44 < Vroum> lol
01:44 < Vroum> :p
01:46 < MadTux> fake, ok power off.
01:46 < Vroum> :p
01:47 < fake> MadTux wants me to die
01:48 < MadTux> fake, no, i want u to rest and sleep :)
01:48 < fake> power off means i can't power myself on again
01:48 < Vroum> :/
01:49 < MadTux> ok lets power off mnemoc then
01:49 < fake> powering off people is not nice
01:49 < MadTux> fake, sure.. but i'm not talking about people. i'm talking about mnemoc
01:50 < MadTux> nah jk mnemoc :)
01:50  * MadTux will not finish his work to try to also sleep.
01:51  * MadTux doesn't feel good today
01:52 < fake> MadTux: then sleep well!
01:52 < Vroum> MadTux: i go to speak with my bed
01:52 < Vroum> if you find solution
01:52 < Vroum> mail me :)
01:53 < MadTux> Vroum, i will
01:53 < MadTux> but HEY i'm NOT leaving yet.
01:53 < Vroum> :p
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02:38 < rolla> re
02:49 < mnemoc> re
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03:14 < rolla> hallo mnemoc 
03:59 < mnemoc> *yawn*
04:04 < rolla> wb
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05:28  * mnemoc yawns again :-\
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07:13 < rxr> moin
07:15 < mnemoc> moin
07:20 < mnemoc> i'll try to sleep a bit... cu ;)
07:21 < rxr> cu ;_)!
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07:30 < BoS> moin moin
07:30 < Lorini> moin moin moin
07:31 < BoS> hi Lorini 
07:31 < Lorini> much too early..
07:33 < BoS> realy ? *gg*
07:34 < Lorini> *g*
08:24 < netrunner> moiin
08:25 < BoS> moin moin netrunner 
08:25 < netrunner> argl, now I have to use windows to type the lecture.
08:25 < BoS> hu
08:25 < netrunner> well, I hide it behind a fullscreen putty ;)
08:26 < BoS> hehe
08:54 < blindy> note to self: deactivate paranoia checks on sparc64
08:54 < blindy> moin everyone
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09:15 < rxr> new linux 2.6 kernel
09:15 < netrunner> not  a surprise after that bug.
09:15 < netrunner> shall I ... ?
09:16 < blindy> ok, I hope that this time the build doesn't stop in stage 0 _again_
09:16 < blindy> off to breakfast
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09:44 < blindy> back
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10:16 < Vroum> moin
10:17 < daja77> moin Vroum 
10:31 < fake> gmornin'
10:32 < fake> the broken pipe errors vanished on a clean build
10:34 < fake> which rng-tools is the right one?
10:35 < fake> base/rng-tools or x86/rng-tools
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10:53 < buhzi> is there someone who was able to build a linux for arm with rocklinux? the problematic part is the creation of the crosscompiler in stage 0/1. This differs from building a crosstoolchain from scatch by hand.
10:55 < fake> buhzi: i did that a few moons ago
10:55 < fake> what's wrong?
11:00 < buhzi> fake: the problem is that the build process for gcc3 in stage 0 failes because of missing tools in the directory crosscc. The directory doesn't even exist. 
11:00 < fake> huh
11:01 < fake> can you query me the error message?
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11:10 < buhzi> i have changed some scripts in rocklinux because some path and other settings seem to be wrong for crosscomiling. i do not have the correct error message. for that i have to change everything back. for building a crosstoolchain the order of building is linux-headers, binutils, gcc (bootstrap), glibc and again gcc (complete). 
11:11 < buhzi> but rocklinux does it like this: linux-headers, glibc, binutils, gcc and in stage1 again linux.-headers, glibc, binutils and gcc.
11:12 < buhzi> further more is the right combination of packages important. i succeeded with gcc-3.2.3, glibc-2.3.1 and binutils-2.14
11:12 < buhzi> every higher version of glibc fails
11:13 < fake> buhzi: no, crosscompiling works, i can proof that
11:13 < buhzi> can you proof it for the last svn update?
11:14 < fake> buhzi: have you checked [*] this is a cross build ?
11:14 < buhzi> and if so, can you guid me through the config dialogs?
11:14 < buhzi> yes. i checked this
11:14 < fake> otherweise the build environment will build a 'pseudo-crosscompiler', which might look strangely similar in the build process to a real cross compiler
11:15 < fake> buhzi: i have a build running
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11:15 < buhzi> you said you tried it some month ago. what glibc did you used?
11:15 < fake> buhzi: the latest release
11:16 < fake> buhzi: maybe you can re-try from scratch? it *really* shouldn't be required to edit any scripts
11:16 < fake> buhzi: try again, and post errors to the mailinglist, or here
11:17 < buhzi> what else do you have to check in config dialogs?
11:17 < buhzi> ok. i will do it
11:18 < buhzi> fake: what packet selection do you have? if i create for instance a new configuration based on generic i will get everytime a packedselection with glibc and glibc-cross, binutils and binutils-cross, gcc and gcc-cross
11:19 < buhzi> fake: but do i realy need the gcc if the gcc-cross does the same? but only for crosscompiling?
11:20 < fake> buhzi: just select the minimal package selection for now
11:20 < fake> buhzi: the glibc-cross stuff is no replacement for glibc
11:21 < netrunner> argl. ccbench told me to use i686, now I get illegal instructions :/
11:21 < fake> netrunner: on a pentium-1 ? ;)
11:22 < buhzi> fake: but if i look into the scripts of glibc-cross this script will call the script of glibc. so the packageselection do not need a separat selection of glibc
11:22 < netrunner> fake: celeron (mendocino)
11:23 < fake> buhzi: just don't touch something you don't understand ;)
11:25 < fake> buhzi: glibc-cross includes part of the glibc-package's config, as most of them would be the same anyway
11:25 < fake> buhzi: gcc2 includes gcc3's config, but it's by far not the same ;))
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12:13 < owl> yaaaaawn. moin. wah. driving school is sooooo stressing !
12:13 < fake> moin
12:15 < owl> hi fake 
12:23 < nzg> moin
12:23 < owl> hi nzg 
12:23 < nzg> moin owl
12:23 < owl> how are you?
12:23 < nzg> really fine, i went to make my exam on monday and got 12pt
12:24 < nzg> so now i have my a-level
12:24 < owl> congrats
12:24 < nzg> but i'm somehow tired, because i partied all the night from mon to tue
12:24 < nzg> thx
12:24 < owl> tstststs
12:24 < nzg> what about you? every thing allright?
12:25 < owl> nope. tired like hell, having a headache, being lazy and lying in the bed (and have to horse-ride, today, too *augenverdreh*)
12:26 < owl> (and the muskelkater from monday and sunday is also not yet gone... :( )
12:26 < nzg> i think you like riding
12:26 < nzg> hm, k, muskelkater is quite uncomfortable
12:27 < owl> yeah. normally yes, but today i'm not really motivated. and: i have to take my old, really heavy vs-saddle to the stall... *getting 50 cm smaller* :p
12:27 < buhzi> fake: ok, i configured it now as follows ARM/EB/xscale/armv5/cross-build/generic/minimal-pack-sel/cross compiler options - build a gcc based cross compiler/
12:27 < buhzi> is this what you configured?
12:27 < nzg> so you walk to the stall with the saddle on your back?
12:28 < owl> yeah, and i'm having it almost the whole week now... that's the crap. on the other side it's good, because peru and me are having success (we 're doing classical dressage... --> and probing "mitteltrab" etc)
12:28 < owl> nah :p i'm not a horse! 
12:28 < buhzi> fake: is you build has finished the stage 0 and stage 1 without errors?
12:28 < nzg> so i guess peru is your horse
12:29 < owl> nzg: not mine, but the horse i'm riding (at least on monday + wednesday)
12:29 < nzg> can't you leave your saddle at the stall
12:30 < owl> not yet. the owner of peru and me have to probe, if the saddle fits to peru's back - because he has a very high and wide "widerist"
12:30 < owl> and if it fits, i can jump with peru, too ;) 
12:30 < nzg> sonds cool
12:31 < owl> so - please whish me luck, then i can save about 900 - 2000 EUR (which a new saddle would cost)
12:31 < nzg> s/sonds/sounds
12:31 < owl> yep. 
12:31  * nzg pressing his thumbs so that owl's saddle will fit on the horse
12:31 < owl> jumping is much fun ;) or riding outdoors and just running in galopp with a high speed - this is so great!
12:31 < owl> hehe. thx ;)
12:32 < nzg> i think i should ride at sometime, but that's still far away...
12:32 < owl> nzg: why is it far away?
12:33 < nzg> because i either get captured by the "bundeswehr" on 010204 or start moving to aachen around end of june
12:34 < owl> hm. k. 
12:34 < nzg> which reminds me, that i have to call my bundeswehr consultant
12:35 < owl> hm. you're "tauglich"?
12:35 < fake> buhzi: that sounds reasonable
12:35 < nzg> yes i'm T2 and i have my recrutation for 0107
12:36 < owl> urgs. that's not really good
12:36 < nzg> yep, but currently i've a petition to make me UK (unabkömmlich) running
12:36 < fake> nzg: it's soooo easy to get out if you wanrt
12:37 < owl> fake: how?
12:37 < nzg> fake: without need to make zivi?
12:37 < fake> sure
12:37 < nzg> fake: how?
12:37 < fake> just go to the responsible doc once you're in and tell him you will shoot yourself once they give you a weapon
12:39 < fake> you can also tell him you are using drugs
12:39 < nzg> nice1, but i'm not sure wether it works, if they see you are addicted to weed, the recruit you but you won't get a weapon either but instead you have to clean the facillity
12:39 < nzg> i thought about that one too
12:39 < fake> like, 'i cant leave bed without my joint', the doc can't tell anyone
12:39 < nzg> but then you just are the "kartoffelschäler"
12:40 < nzg> yes, but they make a piss-test at your "musterung" (which i never made, neither then nor later)
12:40 < fake> well, then go havoc with the knife you peel your potatoes with
12:40 < fake> nzg: on musterung, you are not yet a soldier, and you can protest against that
12:41 < fake> nzg: no matter what they tell you, it _IS_ okay to keep long hair
12:41 < nzg> fake: no need for that, just say "sorry, i can't piss at command"
12:41 < fake> nzg: they had lots of tea and juice when my friend was there
12:41 < nzg> fake: i've no long hair, not in normal dimensions
12:42 < nzg> at mine not, they just said "come back if you can"
12:42 < fake> nzg: they made my colleague cut his beloved long hair, and 3 weeks after that he noticed a rule that would habe let him keep them
12:42 < nzg> tell him he can process against this
12:43 < fake> really? *bwuahahah*
12:43 < owl> you can also process against being "eingezogen"
12:44 < nzg> yes, thats what i do if i get negative feedback from my consultant
12:44 < fake> the unabkoemmlichkeitsstuff only works once, maybe twice
12:44 < owl> oh. good luck then 
12:45 < nzg> yeah, but till i'm abkömmlich, i imatriculated for theology
12:45 < nzg> ;-)
12:45 < fake> theology???
12:45 < nzg> yes, they leave you alone if you study theology
12:45 < fake> *lol*
12:46 < nzg> there are a few other options
12:47 < fake> it's getting a bit tougher once you are 'mustered'
12:47 < nzg> marry your best friend, the leave you alone if you are married or have a "eingetragene lebensgemeindschaft"
12:47 < nzg> fake: what do you mean?
12:48 < fake> the 'musterung' is the best chance to show them you don't want to join
12:48 < nzg> yes, i showed them and got T2
12:49 < fake> almost any doctor would have written you an attest for something so they won't get you
12:49 < fake> i just told my doc i have musterung and he mad up some damaged knee stuff
12:50 < fake> *made
12:51 < nzg> i had no time for doing this stuff...
12:51 < owl> dmaged knee stuff?
12:51 < fake> yeah, like my knee platter is too big or some such
12:51 < fake> it sounded really ugly
12:51 < owl> as in "zertruemmerte knieschreibe und immer noch probleme"?
12:52 < owl> hrm. which T-have you?
12:52 < fake> .oO( but when i got there, they told me to come back in 2 years, anyways )
12:52 < fake> none yet, they mixed s/th up and wrote me too early
12:53 < owl> ok O_o
12:53 < fake> and now they don't want me anymore
12:53 < fake> i guess
12:53 < nzg> guessed wrong fake
12:54 < fake> <- mad, evil, non-authorative psycho
12:54 < nzg> you make two test, the pysical one called musterung and the eignungstest
12:55 < nzg> after the musterung they hat no mor time for the eignungstest, so they said i'll get an invitation for the eignungstest next week
12:55 < nzg> i heard nothing from them for almost over a year
12:56 < nzg> the i got a letter "you must be at the kaserne in coesfeld on 010704 until 1700"
12:56 < fake> AB 1.7., 0:00 SIND SIE SOLDAT
12:56 < owl> *jump* my palm works now! :)
12:56 < fake> yeah, i know that letter
12:56 < fake> owl: which one?
12:56 < owl> fake: palm zire 31
12:57 < fake> toy ;)
12:57 < owl> why?
12:57 < owl> it's ok for my needs 
12:57 < fake> it looks like a toy imho
12:57 < nzg> i want the sharp zaurus
12:57  * fake ipaq w/wlan & bluetooth
12:58 < dsoul> :)
12:58 < nzg> you can also have fast-ethernet with a zaurus ;-)
12:58 < owl> fake: angeber ;p
12:58 < fake> nzg: you could still go to a shrink and let him write down you're insane
12:59  * fake WANTS one
12:59 < owl> <- just needs "mapview", an "mp3-player", and something to write and to view fotos
12:59 < fake> the new Sony Vaio UX-50
12:59 < fake> or saomething
13:00 < fake> U50 it was
13:00 < fake> http://www.pdabuyersguide.com/notebooks/sony_vaio_U50.htm
13:00 < fake> *hot*
13:01 < nzg> fake: i don't want to have something "mr. $ME is insane" in my papers
13:01 < fake> nzg: it's not in your papers...
13:02 < fake> not in the ones anyone outside the military can get, so if you con't want to work for the country, it shouldn't matter
13:02 < fake> you don't want to become a cop, do you?
13:03 < nzg> no, i don't
13:03 < fake> i guess so ;)
13:18 < buhzi> fake: so my build fails on 0-gcc3 with "make[1]: arm-linux-gnu-ar: Command not found"
13:19 < buhzi> fake: have you any ideas?I can post/send you the complete err-logfile if you want...
13:23 < netrunner> damn. I just got a call that we get the beamer from chip :(
13:41 < owl> kconfig_compiler << which package?
13:42 < fake> buhzi: what is your build-host? rock?
13:42 < fake> does binutils build before 0-gcc3 ?
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13:42 < buhzi> fake: yes binutils are build
13:43 < buhzi> fake: nad the build host ist a suse machine
13:44 < buhzi> fake: is you build process has finished for stage 0 and stage 1?
13:46 < fake> buhzi: can you tell me what's in build/<your build id>/ROCK/tools.cross/arm*-linux-gnu/bin ?
13:47 < buhzi> fake:ar, as, ld, nm, ranlib, strip
13:48 < fake> buhzi: can you do a 'file ar' in that dir?
13:48 < buhzi> fake: ar: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped
13:49 < fake> are the files in build/<your build id>/ROCK/tools.cross/crosscc/ there?
13:49 < owl> <- off. (horsebackriding)
13:49 < owl> bye
13:50 < fake> bye owl! have fun
13:50 < owl> thx. bye
13:50 < dsoul> by owl 
13:50 < buhzi> fake: no they exist no longer... while building 0-gcc3 there was that dir.
13:51 < fake> buhzi: so there are no arm-unkown-linux-gnu-* files there?
13:51 < buhzi> fake: and file with that strange prefix exist there: arm-linux-gnu-arm-linux-gnu-*
13:51 < fake> buhzi: that reallu sounds strange
13:52 < fake> buhzi: my build will be finished soon (i have to finish it for work), then i will have alook, ok?
13:52 < buhzi> fake: if you comment out the following line in binutils-cross/binutils-cross.conf :var_append confopt " " "--program-prefix=${arch_target}-" you get the right prefix...
13:53 < fake> buhzi: but that's the right prefix...
13:53 < fake> arch_target should only be 'arm' iirc
13:54 < buhzi> fake: yes but in some way he adds is twice as you can se from crosscc-dir: arm-linux-gnu-arm-linux-gnu-
13:55 < fake> no, that would be arm-arm-linux-gnu-
13:55 < fake> buhzi: if you promise to come back here tonight, i can tell you wether it works when build on rock
13:56 < fake> .oO( i suspect some suse madness *g* )
13:57 < buhzi> fake: hm... i can try it on a different machine. but if your build process is already beyond the stage 1 everything should be ok?!
13:57 < blindy> rxr: branches/2.0-stable fails just as miserably as trunk
13:58 < buhzi> fake: my config says: export ROCKCFG_PKG_CROSSCC_ARCH_TARGET='arm-linux-gnu'
13:58 < fake> hm
13:59 < fake> buhzi: i first have to finish another build, not arm-cross ;)
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14:00 < fake> buhzi: do you use the current svn version?
14:00  * fake has to go buy some bolts now
14:00 < buhzi> fake: ok i will wait... it is very important for me to get things running. i try it for almost a week now also with creating toolchain by hand to see what have to happen...
14:01 < buhzi> fake: yes
14:01 < fake> buhzi: checked out from svn.rocklinux-consulting.de or from svn2... ?
14:02 < buhzi> fake: is there a difference? ;)
14:02 < buhzi> fake: what svn should i prefer?
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14:03 < snafu`> moin
14:03 < buhzi> fake: svn.rocklinux-consulting.de
14:04 < dsoul> hi snafu` 
14:04 < fake> buhzi: that's perfect
14:05 < fake> buhzi: svn2 had problems syncing against svn the last weeks, but that's solved now afaik
14:06 < buhzi> fake: before my last build i updated everything...
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14:34 < rolla> re
14:35 < dsoul> hi rolla 
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14:46 < mX5> hey 
14:46 < dsoul> hi mX5 
14:46 < daja77> hi mX5 
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15:07 < daja77> >_< apple has broken system headers
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15:41  * rolla needs a pint
15:42 < daja77> *gg*
15:50 -!- esden|zZz is now known as esden
15:50 < esden> hi ho everyone
15:51 < dsoul> hi esden :)
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15:51 < daja77> hi dsoul & esden 
15:52 < dsoul> hi daja77 :)
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16:24 < blindy> moin esden 
16:33 < esden> huhu blindy 
16:33 < daja77> esden!
16:33 < esden> daja77: 
16:33 < daja77> esden: will you be on linuxtag?
16:34 < esden> daja77: dunno
16:34 < esden> daja77: perhups
16:34 < daja77> hm
16:34 < esden> I do not know if I am motivated enough
16:34 < daja77> hey I will be there ...
16:35 < daja77> hm ok that might be scaring
16:35 < esden> hehe
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16:36 < Lorini> hi esden, daja
16:37 < daja77> erhm hi Lorini ...
16:37 < esden> hi Lorini 
16:44 < daja77> rxr: there is a firefox 0.9 available ...
17:03 < fake> yeee
17:03  * fake is not completely left-handed
17:04 < daja77> hm?
17:04 < fake> i managed to get my hammock (hanegematte) fixed at my 'wall'
17:04 < daja77> ;)
17:05 < fake> very comfortable
17:05 < fake> let's see how long until it breaks down
17:05 < daja77> firefox on mac is annoying me
17:05 < fake> mac os x?
17:05 < daja77> yep
17:05 < fake> safari!
17:05 < daja77> the version i have is quiet old
17:06 < daja77> and firefox is starting and dying in an endless loop
18:29 < fake> buhzi: gone?
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19:08 < snafu`> re
19:10 < dsoul> hi snafu` 
19:40 < mnemoc> moin
19:42 < dsoul> hi mnemoc 
19:44 < mnemoc> hi dsoul 
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20:16 < snafu`> n8
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20:49 < blindy> esden: ping
20:51 < esden> blindy: pong
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21:22 < mX5> hello
21:25 < mX5> Can somebody recommend a goot burn prog under rock?
21:26 < fake> sure
21:26 < fake> cdrecord
21:26 < fake> it's great.
21:26 < mX5> kk..thanks..;)
21:26 < fake> no, go for k3b, it rules
21:26 < mX5> ..k3b?
21:26 < fake> k3b - that's a kde app for burning cds/dvds/vcds/... whatever
21:27 < fake> it's my absolute favourite
21:27 < mX5> cool..thnx..it seems to be good..
21:29 < owl> *grunz* re
21:30 < mX5> which window manager do you use( ..installed rock just yesterday)
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22:09 < daja77> re
22:09 < owl> jo daja77 
22:09 < owl> aehio hi 
22:10 < owl> .oO(the keyboard and /me are not friends today)
22:10 < daja77> hi owl
22:10 < owl> how are you?
22:11 < daja77> quite ok thx
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22:48 < netrunne1> hm, 1267 builds total, 1028 completed fine, 117 with errors. p4-generic with gcc34
22:48 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner
22:49 < daja77> netrunner: you got a beamer?
22:49 < netrunner> 122 packages missing. looks like I can install that thing tomorrow.
22:50 < netrunner> daja77: 90% yes. from chip. I was unhappy because my contact there wants my communicator back :/
22:50 < daja77> :(
22:53 < daja77> 1256 builds total, 1035 completed fine, 126 with errors.
22:53 < daja77> ^^
22:53 < netrunner> seems that I have some uncommitted packages in my repo :)
22:54 < daja77> hm two of my packages are broken with gcc-3.4 >_<
23:00 < daja77> rxr: that update for lingnomemm 2.6.1 does not exists ...
23:01 < owl> how many years does "kdepim" need to build on a p4 mobile with 1,8 ghz?
23:02 < daja77> hehe
23:02 < owl> not funny *sigh*
23:04 < netrunner> owl: wait a second ...
23:04 < owl> hm?
23:04 < netrunner> a bit more than 1h 40min :)
23:05 < netrunner> (I build on a 2ghz P4m)
23:05 < owl> WAAAAAH!!!! 
23:05 < daja77> slwo machines :P
23:05 < owl> sch... even my hamster randalliert now in his cage O_o
23:05 < owl> daja77: notebook ;p
23:05 < netrunner> owl: I can send you this build when it's finished. 
23:05 < netrunner> owl: but it's with gcc34 and glibc 234
23:06 < Lorini> owl: be happy, your hamster doesnt piss on your bed..
23:06 < daja77> lol @ Lorini 
23:07 < owl> netrunner: nope. thx. i just wanted to build kpilot... and needed kdepim for that... and build is running since about - dunno. maybe 1:30
23:07 < owl> Lorini: no, but sometimes onto my hand :(
23:08 < daja77> you could use jpilot as well
23:08 < owl> hm. it complains about "not able to bind" or something with my zire31
23:09 < daja77> ic
23:10  * daja77 off to bed now
23:10 < Lorini> n8 daja
23:11 < Lorini> owl: i would prefer your hamster *g*
23:11 < owl> why? ;)
23:11 < owl> gn8 daja77 
23:12 < netrunner> n8 daja77 
23:13 < Lorini> well.. it takes seconds to wash your hands. how long does it take to clean a bed?
23:13 < netrunner> just place a deo nearby :)
23:14 < owl> i dunno. ;)
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23:18 < owl> somone wants to buy an audi a3 abiente?
23:18 < owl> ambiente
23:18 < Lorini> netrunner: ieh.. (in fact i used desinfektionsmittel)
23:34 < netrunner> Lorini: febreze works quite good :)
23:34 < netrunner> owl: how old?
23:34 < owl> netrunner: about one year
23:34 < netrunner> how much?
23:34 < owl> (erstzulassung: 01.07.03)
23:46 < netrunner> argl, 3-groff failed (coredump)
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