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--- Log opened Wed Jun 16 00:00:16 2004 00:24 < owl> https://www.n-tv.de/5253179.html << mayday! 00:28 * fake signung up 00:30 < owl> .oO(why did i think this) 00:31 < fake> cool 00:31 < fake> premier gold membership: 9% of your income tax / year 00:34 < fake> what you get: 00:34 < fake> Gebete | Geborgenheit | Soziales Engagement | Dem Unrecht begegnen | Werte | Katholische Feste 00:36 * owl fears fake 00:38 < fake> hm, that means, if i don't earn money, i don't even have to pay for my membership 00:38 < owl> sozialhilfe? 00:39 < fake> "Leider konnte kein/e Ansprechpartner/in in Ihrer Region gefunden werden" 00:39 < fake> damn, my area is not covered. no churches in ingolstadr 00:40 < owl> hihi. poor boy 00:44 -!- sopor [sopor@221-254.LlNnet.ucl.ac.be] has quit [] 00:47 -!- mX5 [~mX5@D4dd0.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:47 < daja77> fake: ? 00:49 < daja77> what religion do you wanna join? 00:49 < mX5> Hi 00:49 < daja77> hi mX5 00:49 < mX5> ..one question : what about the router distri ? 00:49 < fake> daja77: www.kircheneintritt.de 00:49 < mX5> still in work? 00:49 < daja77> fake: smoked too much? 00:50 < fake> daja77: i am looking for the shining path to truth and freedom 00:50 < mX5> ..-> budhism 00:51 < daja77> fake: nah that has no style, when joining a church then the catholic they have more power 00:51 < fake> daja77: that link is catholic 00:51 < daja77> nope 00:51 < fake> it isn't? 00:51 < daja77> Willkommen in der Evangelischen Kirche it says 00:51 < fake> .oO( i haven't even read that far, baka ) 00:51 < daja77> lol 00:51 < daja77> it is the forst statement 00:52 < daja77> first 00:53 < daja77> nordelbische evagelisch-lutherische landeskirche <- the headline 00:53 < mX5> lol 00:53 < fake> huh? 00:53 < fake> did i link to the wrong page? 00:53 < daja77> no idea just followed your link 00:54 < fake> oh i did 00:54 < fake> the right url is: 00:54 < fake> https://www.kircheneintrittsstelle.de/ 00:55 < mX5> ^^.. 00:55 < daja77> heh even the page has more style 00:55 < daja77> mX5: yes it is used afaik, what's your question? 00:55 < owl> oeh? you need to be a member of a church to be able to be a "taufpate"? 00:56 < daja77> godfather ^^ 00:56 < fake> owl: there are some religions that are allowed to inter-mix there 00:56 < fake> as with marrying 00:57 -!- MadTux [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 00:57 < daja77> the case gets intersting when one partner has no religion at all 00:57 < daja77> wb mike 00:57 < MadTux> thx dany 00:57 < owl> ok O_o 00:57 < owl> and waht if you dont have a religion? 00:57 < MadTux> owlita!!! 00:58 < owl> hi MadTux ! 00:58 < MadTux> owl, religion sucks. 00:58 < daja77> owl: actually i haven't tried yet 00:58 < MadTux> owl, believing in God is what really matters. 00:58 < owl> MadTux: ack. 00:58 < daja77> huh? and that from mike 00:58 < daja77> oh k. i see 00:58 < MadTux> daja77, i don't believe in religion.. i believe in god. 00:58 < owl> MadTux: nah (at least not for me) 00:58 < daja77> yep I understand 00:59 < MadTux> owl, u don't believe in me?! 00:59 < MadTux> daja77, good. :) 00:59 < owl> MadTux: i don't believe in god/buddha/or-who/whatever 00:59 -!- mX5 [~mX5@D4dd0.d.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:59 * fake believes that the universe has a strange sense of humor 00:59 < daja77> hehe 00:59 < MadTux> fake, full ack. 01:00 < MadTux> owl, but u do believe in the penguin power right? 01:00 < daja77> it even created such ridiculous creatures like humans 01:00 < owl> MadTux: yep ;) 01:01 < MadTux> yeah all those humans are pathetic 01:01 < daja77> they get strange ideas of bein imprtant and stuff 01:01 < fake> it's all irony, creating humans just to watch them extinct themselfes ;) 01:02 < daja77> we are working on it 01:02 < fake> the proof: too much intelligence isn't the way to go in evolution 01:02 < MadTux> fake, well that can be considered entertainment :) 01:02 < daja77> fake: too much intelligence, where? 01:02 < daja77> in fact I miss some essential intelligence 01:02 < fake> daja77: a bee won't think about the meaning of life ;) 01:02 < MadTux> "Human stupidity is infinite." 01:02 < daja77> fake: most people don't too 01:03 < fake> jsut as a clarification: to consider someone stupid, you need to have a reference point you call 'not stupid' 01:03 < Lorini_> the meaning is: there is no meaning 01:03 < daja77> just see all the idiots voting people who can't do anything but hate others 01:03 < Lorini_> n8 everybody 01:03 < daja77> n8 Lorini_ 01:03 < fake> Lorini_: isn't that itself depressing? ;) 01:03 < fake> n8 Lorini_ 01:04 < daja77> depends, if there is no meaning you can just have fun 01:04 < fake> but most of life isn't fun 01:04 < MadTux> fun != life 01:05 < daja77> not really, I try to see the humor of universe in everything 01:05 < daja77> hard to find .. 01:06 < MadTux> mortals are nothing but toys. 01:06 * daja77 plays with MadTux 01:07 < MadTux> daja77, I'm no mortal. 01:07 < fake> funny image: humans as tipkick players 01:07 < fake> MadTux is a half-god in black 01:07 < daja77> but I am, that's why I go to bed now 01:07 < MadTux> fake, just trying to be like u master fake :) 01:09 < fake> daja77: sleep well 01:09 < fake> MadTux: i am no master, i am just a rock minion, a minor one, to be exact 01:09 < owl> gn8 daja77, sleep well 01:10 < MadTux> fake, hehe :) 01:15 < owl> gn8. 01:15 < fake> n8 kakapo! 01:16 < mnemoc> aarg... which _package_ installs Digest/SHA1.pm ? 01:17 < mnemoc> (hi! ;-) 01:17 < fake> mnemoc: openssl? 01:17 < fake> aeh 01:17 < fake> no 01:17 < fake> forget that 01:17 < mnemoc> mmm... 01:17 < mnemoc> :) 01:17 < fake> perl5:perl5: usr/lib/perl5/5.8.2/Digest.pm 01:18 < fake> it's part of perl 01:18 < fake> narf 01:18 < mnemoc> SHA1.pm 01:18 < fake> i _ should _ get _ some _ sleep 01:18 < mnemoc> ^^ 01:18 < MadTux> fake, so get it my friend :) 01:18 < mnemoc> hi MadTux 01:18 < fake> package is: perl-digest-sha1 01:18 < MadTux> hola Alejo :) 01:18 < mnemoc> oh :) thanks 01:18 < mnemoc> hola Miguel 01:19 < MadTux> mnemoc, no need to thank him.. just pay him :) 01:19 < fake> *wuahahah* 01:19 < mnemoc> he is not like you 01:19 * fake wants no money 01:19 < fake> i want sex 01:19 < fake> ;) 01:19 < mnemoc> with me??? 01:19 < fake> NO 01:19 < mnemoc> wtf 01:19 < fake> !!! 01:19 < MadTux> OMFG 01:19 < fake> i was just kidding 01:19 * MadTux runs away as fast as possible 01:19 < fake> okay 01:20 < fake> calm down ;) 01:20 * MadTux stops. 01:20 < MadTux> fake, money = sex :) 01:20 < fake> MadTux: sex is like software, it's better when it's free 01:20 < mnemoc> ACK 01:21 < fake> though i have never had non-free sex, so i can't ack that first-hand 01:22 < MadTux> hehe 01:22 < mnemoc> ^^ 01:23 < mnemoc> sometimes payment is not in money 01:24 < MadTux> :) 01:24 < mnemoc> ask MadTux what he had to do to get his degree 01:25 < fake> i doubt i want to know 01:25 < MadTux> mnemoc, volunteer work at the research group of the uni for 2 years. 01:26 < mnemoc> :) 01:26 < MadTux> mnemoc, btw u do realize that i have no degree yet 01:26 < mnemoc> oh 01:26 * MadTux will hopefully go back to uni on september. 01:28 < mnemoc> this time do the right proposal to the 'principal?' 01:31 * MadTux slaps mnemoc 01:31 < MadTux> don't see me like a mirror. 01:31 < mnemoc> :) 01:33 < MadTux> WEEH!! got payed kernel work to do :) 01:33 < mnemoc> tell us more 01:34 < Vroum> MadTux: !! 01:34 < MadTux> selinux + bproc cluster os integration. 01:34 < mnemoc> fake: can you locate me URI/Escape.pm now? 01:34 < MadTux> thats all i can say sorry. 01:34 < MadTux> hello Vroum 01:35 < mnemoc> MadTux: that's everything i _need_ to know 01:35 < Vroum> MadTux: seems having pb to create iso 01:35 < MadTux> mnemoc, good. what do u think then? 01:35 < MadTux> Vroum, tell me more. 01:35 < mnemoc> lot of fun ;) 01:35 < mnemoc> MadTux: you install your crap at /router 01:35 < MadTux> mnemoc, indeed. 01:35 < Vroum> $build_rock is not set 01:35 < Vroum> so it write /router 01:36 < MadTux> _I_ didn't change that. 01:36 < fake> menmoc: sure 01:36 < mnemoc> your target, your fault 01:36 < MadTux> fsck... i must check. 01:36 < MadTux> mnemoc, i haven't touch it since last year! 01:36 < Vroum> you repalce $build_dir 01:36 < fake> mnemoc: perl-uri 01:36 < MadTux> Vroum, oh :) 01:36 < Vroum> :p 01:36 < MadTux> Vroum, could u rever please 01:36 < MadTux> revert even 01:36 < Vroum> yes 01:36 < Vroum> i do this 01:37 < Vroum> but 01:37 < Vroum> the isofs.txt is not good 01:37 < mnemoc> fake: thanks 01:37 < MadTux> Vroum, tell me more.. 01:37 < Vroum> there is /ROCK/router/ at the end of a ligne 01:37 < Vroum> there is $.../ROCK/router/ at the end of a ligne 01:38 < MadTux> ..// 01:38 < MadTux> i mean mm.. 01:38 < fake> mnemoc: you're welcome ;) 01:38 < MadTux> ok stand by please. 01:40 < fake> echo "2" > /proc/acpi/sleep 01:41 < MadTux> cya fake 01:41 < mnemoc> gn8 fake 01:42 < Vroum> n8 fake 01:43 < fake> .... 01:43 < fake> i just switched to stand by as MadTux told me to? 01:44 < Vroum> lol 01:44 < Vroum> :p 01:46 < MadTux> fake, ok power off. 01:46 < Vroum> :p 01:47 < fake> MadTux wants me to die 01:48 < MadTux> fake, no, i want u to rest and sleep :) 01:48 < fake> power off means i can't power myself on again 01:48 < Vroum> :/ 01:49 < MadTux> ok lets power off mnemoc then 01:49 < fake> powering off people is not nice 01:49 < MadTux> fake, sure.. but i'm not talking about people. i'm talking about mnemoc 01:50 < MadTux> nah jk mnemoc :) 01:50 * MadTux will not finish his work to try to also sleep. 01:51 * MadTux doesn't feel good today 01:52 < fake> MadTux: then sleep well! 01:52 < Vroum> MadTux: i go to speak with my bed 01:52 < Vroum> if you find solution 01:52 < Vroum> mail me :) 01:53 < MadTux> Vroum, i will 01:53 < MadTux> but HEY i'm NOT leaving yet. 01:53 < Vroum> :p 02:17 -!- daja77 [[qdpGlTBHJ@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:31 -!- MadTux [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:38 < rolla> re 02:49 < mnemoc> re 02:53 -!- daja77 [[PDJNWmzGV@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #rocklinux 03:14 < rolla> hallo mnemoc 03:59 < mnemoc> *yawn* 04:04 < rolla> wb 04:06 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@p548038FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:06 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD9E4F281.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 04:06 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy 05:28 * mnemoc yawns again :-\ 05:43 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M472P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 05:59 -!- nookie [~nookie@M486P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:13 < rxr> moin 07:15 < mnemoc> moin 07:20 < mnemoc> i'll try to sleep a bit... cu ;) 07:21 < rxr> cu ;_)! 07:27 -!- Lorini_ is now known as Lorini 07:30 < BoS> moin moin 07:30 < Lorini> moin moin moin 07:31 < BoS> hi Lorini 07:31 < Lorini> much too early.. 07:33 < BoS> realy ? *gg* 07:34 < Lorini> *g* 08:24 < netrunner> moiin 08:25 < BoS> moin moin netrunner 08:25 < netrunner> argl, now I have to use windows to type the lecture. 08:25 < BoS> hu 08:25 < netrunner> well, I hide it behind a fullscreen putty ;) 08:26 < BoS> hehe 08:54 < blindy> note to self: deactivate paranoia checks on sparc64 08:54 < blindy> moin everyone 09:03 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:2dcd] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:06 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:2dcd] has joined #rocklinux 09:15 < rxr> new linux 2.6 kernel 09:15 < netrunner> not a surprise after that bug. 09:15 < netrunner> shall I ... ? 09:16 < blindy> ok, I hope that this time the build doesn't stop in stage 0 _again_ 09:16 < blindy> off to breakfast 09:27 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:2dcd] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:27 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:2dcd] has joined #rocklinux 09:39 -!- daja77 [[PDJNWmzGV@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 09:44 < blindy> back 09:47 -!- daja77 [[9hYl69XCh@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:16 < Vroum> moin 10:17 < daja77> moin Vroum 10:31 < fake> gmornin' 10:32 < fake> the broken pipe errors vanished on a clean build 10:34 < fake> which rng-tools is the right one? 10:35 < fake> base/rng-tools or x86/rng-tools 10:45 -!- buhzi [~buhzi@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:48 -!- buhzi [~buhzi@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has quit [Client Quit] 10:49 -!- buhzi [~buhzi@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:53 < buhzi> is there someone who was able to build a linux for arm with rocklinux? the problematic part is the creation of the crosscompiler in stage 0/1. This differs from building a crosstoolchain from scatch by hand. 10:55 < fake> buhzi: i did that a few moons ago 10:55 < fake> what's wrong? 11:00 < buhzi> fake: the problem is that the build process for gcc3 in stage 0 failes because of missing tools in the directory crosscc. The directory doesn't even exist. 11:00 < fake> huh 11:01 < fake> can you query me the error message? 11:07 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-3-187.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 11:10 < buhzi> i have changed some scripts in rocklinux because some path and other settings seem to be wrong for crosscomiling. i do not have the correct error message. for that i have to change everything back. for building a crosstoolchain the order of building is linux-headers, binutils, gcc (bootstrap), glibc and again gcc (complete). 11:11 < buhzi> but rocklinux does it like this: linux-headers, glibc, binutils, gcc and in stage1 again linux.-headers, glibc, binutils and gcc. 11:12 < buhzi> further more is the right combination of packages important. i succeeded with gcc-3.2.3, glibc-2.3.1 and binutils-2.14 11:12 < buhzi> every higher version of glibc fails 11:13 < fake> buhzi: no, crosscompiling works, i can proof that 11:13 < buhzi> can you proof it for the last svn update? 11:14 < fake> buhzi: have you checked [*] this is a cross build ? 11:14 < buhzi> and if so, can you guid me through the config dialogs? 11:14 < buhzi> yes. i checked this 11:14 < fake> otherweise the build environment will build a 'pseudo-crosscompiler', which might look strangely similar in the build process to a real cross compiler 11:15 < fake> buhzi: i have a build running 11:15 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-1-83.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:15 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 11:15 < buhzi> you said you tried it some month ago. what glibc did you used? 11:15 < fake> buhzi: the latest release 11:16 < fake> buhzi: maybe you can re-try from scratch? it *really* shouldn't be required to edit any scripts 11:16 < fake> buhzi: try again, and post errors to the mailinglist, or here 11:17 < buhzi> what else do you have to check in config dialogs? 11:17 < buhzi> ok. i will do it 11:18 < buhzi> fake: what packet selection do you have? if i create for instance a new configuration based on generic i will get everytime a packedselection with glibc and glibc-cross, binutils and binutils-cross, gcc and gcc-cross 11:19 < buhzi> fake: but do i realy need the gcc if the gcc-cross does the same? but only for crosscompiling? 11:20 < fake> buhzi: just select the minimal package selection for now 11:20 < fake> buhzi: the glibc-cross stuff is no replacement for glibc 11:21 < netrunner> argl. ccbench told me to use i686, now I get illegal instructions :/ 11:21 < fake> netrunner: on a pentium-1 ? ;) 11:22 < buhzi> fake: but if i look into the scripts of glibc-cross this script will call the script of glibc. so the packageselection do not need a separat selection of glibc 11:22 < netrunner> fake: celeron (mendocino) 11:23 < fake> buhzi: just don't touch something you don't understand ;) 11:25 < fake> buhzi: glibc-cross includes part of the glibc-package's config, as most of them would be the same anyway 11:25 < fake> buhzi: gcc2 includes gcc3's config, but it's by far not the same ;)) 12:06 -!- sopor [sopor@221-254.LlNnet.ucl.ac.be] has joined #rocklinux 12:13 < owl> yaaaaawn. moin. wah. driving school is sooooo stressing ! 12:13 < fake> moin 12:15 < owl> hi fake 12:23 < nzg> moin 12:23 < owl> hi nzg 12:23 < nzg> moin owl 12:23 < owl> how are you? 12:23 < nzg> really fine, i went to make my exam on monday and got 12pt 12:24 < nzg> so now i have my a-level 12:24 < owl> congrats 12:24 < nzg> but i'm somehow tired, because i partied all the night from mon to tue 12:24 < nzg> thx 12:24 < owl> tstststs 12:24 < nzg> what about you? every thing allright? 12:25 < owl> nope. tired like hell, having a headache, being lazy and lying in the bed (and have to horse-ride, today, too *augenverdreh*) 12:26 < owl> (and the muskelkater from monday and sunday is also not yet gone... :( ) 12:26 < nzg> i think you like riding 12:26 < nzg> hm, k, muskelkater is quite uncomfortable 12:27 < owl> yeah. normally yes, but today i'm not really motivated. and: i have to take my old, really heavy vs-saddle to the stall... *getting 50 cm smaller* :p 12:27 < buhzi> fake: ok, i configured it now as follows ARM/EB/xscale/armv5/cross-build/generic/minimal-pack-sel/cross compiler options - build a gcc based cross compiler/ 12:27 < buhzi> is this what you configured? 12:27 < nzg> so you walk to the stall with the saddle on your back? 12:28 < owl> yeah, and i'm having it almost the whole week now... that's the crap. on the other side it's good, because peru and me are having success (we 're doing classical dressage... --> and probing "mitteltrab" etc) 12:28 < owl> nah :p i'm not a horse! 12:28 < buhzi> fake: is you build has finished the stage 0 and stage 1 without errors? 12:28 < nzg> so i guess peru is your horse 12:29 < owl> nzg: not mine, but the horse i'm riding (at least on monday + wednesday) 12:29 < nzg> can't you leave your saddle at the stall 12:30 < owl> not yet. the owner of peru and me have to probe, if the saddle fits to peru's back - because he has a very high and wide "widerist" 12:30 < owl> and if it fits, i can jump with peru, too ;) 12:30 < nzg> sonds cool 12:31 < owl> so - please whish me luck, then i can save about 900 - 2000 EUR (which a new saddle would cost) 12:31 < nzg> s/sonds/sounds 12:31 < owl> yep. 12:31 * nzg pressing his thumbs so that owl's saddle will fit on the horse 12:31 < owl> jumping is much fun ;) or riding outdoors and just running in galopp with a high speed - this is so great! 12:31 < owl> hehe. thx ;) 12:32 < nzg> i think i should ride at sometime, but that's still far away... 12:32 < owl> nzg: why is it far away? 12:33 < nzg> because i either get captured by the "bundeswehr" on 010204 or start moving to aachen around end of june 12:34 < owl> hm. k. 12:34 < nzg> which reminds me, that i have to call my bundeswehr consultant 12:35 < owl> hm. you're "tauglich"? 12:35 < fake> buhzi: that sounds reasonable 12:35 < nzg> yes i'm T2 and i have my recrutation for 0107 12:36 < owl> urgs. that's not really good 12:36 < nzg> yep, but currently i've a petition to make me UK (unabkömmlich) running 12:36 < fake> nzg: it's soooo easy to get out if you wanrt 12:37 < owl> fake: how? 12:37 < nzg> fake: without need to make zivi? 12:37 < fake> sure 12:37 < nzg> fake: how? 12:37 < fake> just go to the responsible doc once you're in and tell him you will shoot yourself once they give you a weapon 12:39 < fake> you can also tell him you are using drugs 12:39 < nzg> nice1, but i'm not sure wether it works, if they see you are addicted to weed, the recruit you but you won't get a weapon either but instead you have to clean the facillity 12:39 < nzg> i thought about that one too 12:39 < fake> like, 'i cant leave bed without my joint', the doc can't tell anyone 12:39 < nzg> but then you just are the "kartoffelschäler" 12:40 < nzg> yes, but they make a piss-test at your "musterung" (which i never made, neither then nor later) 12:40 < fake> well, then go havoc with the knife you peel your potatoes with 12:40 < fake> nzg: on musterung, you are not yet a soldier, and you can protest against that 12:41 < fake> nzg: no matter what they tell you, it _IS_ okay to keep long hair 12:41 < nzg> fake: no need for that, just say "sorry, i can't piss at command" 12:41 < fake> nzg: they had lots of tea and juice when my friend was there 12:41 < nzg> fake: i've no long hair, not in normal dimensions 12:42 < nzg> at mine not, they just said "come back if you can" 12:42 < fake> nzg: they made my colleague cut his beloved long hair, and 3 weeks after that he noticed a rule that would habe let him keep them 12:42 < nzg> tell him he can process against this 12:43 < fake> really? *bwuahahah* 12:43 < owl> you can also process against being "eingezogen" 12:44 < nzg> yes, thats what i do if i get negative feedback from my consultant 12:44 < fake> the unabkoemmlichkeitsstuff only works once, maybe twice 12:44 < owl> oh. good luck then 12:45 < nzg> yeah, but till i'm abkömmlich, i imatriculated for theology 12:45 < nzg> ;-) 12:45 < fake> theology??? 12:45 < nzg> yes, they leave you alone if you study theology 12:45 < fake> *lol* 12:46 < nzg> there are a few other options 12:47 < fake> it's getting a bit tougher once you are 'mustered' 12:47 < nzg> marry your best friend, the leave you alone if you are married or have a "eingetragene lebensgemeindschaft" 12:47 < nzg> fake: what do you mean? 12:48 < fake> the 'musterung' is the best chance to show them you don't want to join 12:48 < nzg> yes, i showed them and got T2 12:49 < fake> almost any doctor would have written you an attest for something so they won't get you 12:49 < fake> i just told my doc i have musterung and he mad up some damaged knee stuff 12:50 < fake> *made 12:51 < nzg> i had no time for doing this stuff... 12:51 < owl> dmaged knee stuff? 12:51 < fake> yeah, like my knee platter is too big or some such 12:51 < fake> it sounded really ugly 12:51 < owl> as in "zertruemmerte knieschreibe und immer noch probleme"? 12:52 < owl> hrm. which T-have you? 12:52 < fake> .oO( but when i got there, they told me to come back in 2 years, anyways ) 12:52 < fake> none yet, they mixed s/th up and wrote me too early 12:53 < owl> ok O_o 12:53 < fake> and now they don't want me anymore 12:53 < fake> i guess 12:53 < nzg> guessed wrong fake 12:54 < fake> <- mad, evil, non-authorative psycho 12:54 < nzg> you make two test, the pysical one called musterung and the eignungstest 12:55 < nzg> after the musterung they hat no mor time for the eignungstest, so they said i'll get an invitation for the eignungstest next week 12:55 < nzg> i heard nothing from them for almost over a year 12:56 < nzg> the i got a letter "you must be at the kaserne in coesfeld on 010704 until 1700" 12:56 < fake> AB 1.7., 0:00 SIND SIE SOLDAT 12:56 < owl> *jump* my palm works now! :) 12:56 < fake> yeah, i know that letter 12:56 < fake> owl: which one? 12:56 < owl> fake: palm zire 31 12:57 < fake> toy ;) 12:57 < owl> why? 12:57 < owl> it's ok for my needs 12:57 < fake> it looks like a toy imho 12:57 < nzg> i want the sharp zaurus 12:57 * fake ipaq w/wlan & bluetooth 12:58 < dsoul> :) 12:58 < nzg> you can also have fast-ethernet with a zaurus ;-) 12:58 < owl> fake: angeber ;p 12:58 < fake> nzg: you could still go to a shrink and let him write down you're insane 12:59 * fake WANTS one 12:59 < owl> <- just needs "mapview", an "mp3-player", and something to write and to view fotos 12:59 < fake> the new Sony Vaio UX-50 12:59 < fake> or saomething 13:00 < fake> U50 it was 13:00 < fake> https://www.pdabuyersguide.com/notebooks/sony_vaio_U50.htm 13:00 < fake> *hot* 13:01 < nzg> fake: i don't want to have something "mr. $ME is insane" in my papers 13:01 < fake> nzg: it's not in your papers... 13:02 < fake> not in the ones anyone outside the military can get, so if you con't want to work for the country, it shouldn't matter 13:02 < fake> you don't want to become a cop, do you? 13:03 < nzg> no, i don't 13:03 < fake> i guess so ;) 13:18 < buhzi> fake: so my build fails on 0-gcc3 with "make[1]: arm-linux-gnu-ar: Command not found" 13:19 < buhzi> fake: have you any ideas?I can post/send you the complete err-logfile if you want... 13:23 < netrunner> damn. I just got a call that we get the beamer from chip :( 13:41 < owl> kconfig_compiler << which package? 13:42 < fake> buhzi: what is your build-host? rock? 13:42 < fake> does binutils build before 0-gcc3 ? 13:42 -!- nookie [~nookie@M299P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 13:42 < buhzi> fake: yes binutils are build 13:43 < buhzi> fake: nad the build host ist a suse machine 13:44 < buhzi> fake: is you build process has finished for stage 0 and stage 1? 13:46 < fake> buhzi: can you tell me what's in build/<your build id>/ROCK/tools.cross/arm*-linux-gnu/bin ? 13:47 < buhzi> fake:ar, as, ld, nm, ranlib, strip 13:48 < fake> buhzi: can you do a 'file ar' in that dir? 13:48 < buhzi> fake: ar: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped 13:49 < fake> are the files in build/<your build id>/ROCK/tools.cross/crosscc/ there? 13:49 < owl> <- off. (horsebackriding) 13:49 < owl> bye 13:50 < fake> bye owl! have fun 13:50 < owl> thx. bye 13:50 < dsoul> by owl 13:50 < buhzi> fake: no they exist no longer... while building 0-gcc3 there was that dir. 13:51 < fake> buhzi: so there are no arm-unkown-linux-gnu-* files there? 13:51 < buhzi> fake: and file with that strange prefix exist there: arm-linux-gnu-arm-linux-gnu-* 13:51 < fake> buhzi: that reallu sounds strange 13:52 < fake> buhzi: my build will be finished soon (i have to finish it for work), then i will have alook, ok? 13:52 < buhzi> fake: if you comment out the following line in binutils-cross/binutils-cross.conf :var_append confopt " " "--program-prefix=${arch_target}-" you get the right prefix... 13:53 < fake> buhzi: but that's the right prefix... 13:53 < fake> arch_target should only be 'arm' iirc 13:54 < buhzi> fake: yes but in some way he adds is twice as you can se from crosscc-dir: arm-linux-gnu-arm-linux-gnu- 13:55 < fake> no, that would be arm-arm-linux-gnu- 13:55 < fake> buhzi: if you promise to come back here tonight, i can tell you wether it works when build on rock 13:56 < fake> .oO( i suspect some suse madness *g* ) 13:57 < buhzi> fake: hm... i can try it on a different machine. but if your build process is already beyond the stage 1 everything should be ok?! 13:57 < blindy> rxr: branches/2.0-stable fails just as miserably as trunk 13:58 < buhzi> fake: my config says: export ROCKCFG_PKG_CROSSCC_ARCH_TARGET='arm-linux-gnu' 13:58 < fake> hm 13:59 < fake> buhzi: i first have to finish another build, not arm-cross ;) 14:00 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M472P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:00 < fake> buhzi: do you use the current svn version? 14:00 * fake has to go buy some bolts now 14:00 < buhzi> fake: ok i will wait... it is very important for me to get things running. i try it for almost a week now also with creating toolchain by hand to see what have to happen... 14:01 < buhzi> fake: yes 14:01 < fake> buhzi: checked out from svn.rocklinux-consulting.de or from svn2... ? 14:02 < buhzi> fake: is there a difference? ;) 14:02 < buhzi> fake: what svn should i prefer? 14:03 -!- snafu` [~versager@brln-d9ba2ea0.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:03 < snafu`> moin 14:03 < buhzi> fake: svn.rocklinux-consulting.de 14:04 < dsoul> hi snafu` 14:04 < fake> buhzi: that's perfect 14:05 < fake> buhzi: svn2 had problems syncing against svn the last weeks, but that's solved now afaik 14:06 < buhzi> fake: before my last build i updated everything... 14:08 -!- cchamilt [~chatzilla@cm138.sigma49.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:15 -!- BoS is now known as BoS^afk 14:16 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8C77B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:21 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8D14D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 14:34 < rolla> re 14:35 < dsoul> hi rolla 14:46 -!- mX5 [~mX5@D4f7c.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:46 < mX5> hey 14:46 < dsoul> hi mX5 14:46 < daja77> hi mX5 14:49 -!- snafu` [~versager@brln-d9ba2ea0.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:02 -!- kasc_ [kasc@dsl-213-023-197-224.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:07 < daja77> >_< apple has broken system headers 15:12 -!- Lorini_ [~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has joined #RockLinux 15:15 -!- buhzi [~buhzi@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has quit ["KVIrc 3.0.0-beta3 "CVS""] 15:16 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-082-083-046-173.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:16 -!- kasc_ is now known as kasc 15:20 -!- Lorini [~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:30 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:2dcd] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:30 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:2dcd] has joined #rocklinux 15:41 * rolla needs a pint 15:42 < daja77> *gg* 15:50 -!- esden|zZz is now known as esden 15:50 < esden> hi ho everyone 15:51 < dsoul> hi esden :) 15:51 -!- sopor [sopor@221-254.LlNnet.ucl.ac.be] has left #rocklinux [] 15:51 < daja77> hi dsoul & esden 15:52 < dsoul> hi daja77 :) 16:06 -!- Lorini_ is now known as Lorini 16:24 < blindy> moin esden 16:33 < esden> huhu blindy 16:33 < daja77> esden! 16:33 < esden> daja77: 16:33 < daja77> esden: will you be on linuxtag? 16:34 < esden> daja77: dunno 16:34 < esden> daja77: perhups 16:34 < daja77> hm 16:34 < esden> I do not know if I am motivated enough 16:34 < daja77> hey I will be there ... 16:35 < daja77> hm ok that might be scaring 16:35 < esden> hehe 16:35 -!- BoS^afk [~BoS@dialin-212-144-002-072.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["leaving"] 16:36 < Lorini> hi esden, daja 16:37 < daja77> erhm hi Lorini ... 16:37 < esden> hi Lorini 16:44 < daja77> rxr: there is a firefox 0.9 available ... 17:03 < fake> yeee 17:03 * fake is not completely left-handed 17:04 < daja77> hm? 17:04 < fake> i managed to get my hammock (hanegematte) fixed at my 'wall' 17:04 < daja77> ;) 17:05 < fake> very comfortable 17:05 < fake> let's see how long until it breaks down 17:05 < daja77> firefox on mac is annoying me 17:05 < fake> mac os x? 17:05 < daja77> yep 17:05 < fake> safari! 17:05 < daja77> the version i have is quiet old 17:06 < daja77> and firefox is starting and dying in an endless loop 18:29 < fake> buhzi: gone? 19:08 -!- snafu` [~versager@brln-d9ba2ff5.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:08 < snafu`> re 19:10 < dsoul> hi snafu` 19:40 < mnemoc> moin 19:42 < dsoul> hi mnemoc 19:44 < mnemoc> hi dsoul 20:02 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-137-079.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:16 < snafu`> n8 20:17 -!- mX5 [~mX5@D4f7c.d.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:17 -!- snafu` [~versager@brln-d9ba2ff5.pool.mediaWays.net] has left #rocklinux ["Leaving"] 20:49 < blindy> esden: ping 20:51 < esden> blindy: pong 21:21 -!- mX5 [~mX5@D4f7c.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:22 < mX5> hello 21:25 < mX5> Can somebody recommend a goot burn prog under rock? 21:26 < fake> sure 21:26 < fake> cdrecord 21:26 < fake> it's great. 21:26 < mX5> kk..thanks..;) 21:26 < fake> no, go for k3b, it rules 21:26 < mX5> ..k3b? 21:26 < fake> k3b - that's a kde app for burning cds/dvds/vcds/... whatever 21:27 < fake> it's my absolute favourite 21:27 < mX5> cool..thnx..it seems to be good.. 21:29 < owl> *grunz* re 21:30 < mX5> which window manager do you use( ..installed rock just yesterday) 21:42 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@62.47.222.13] has joined #rocklinux 21:42 -!- mX5 [~mX5@D4f7c.d.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:59 -!- nookie [~nookie@M299P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:03 -!- link_ [~sascha@adsl.xan.ch] has joined #rocklinux 22:09 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-136-230.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:09 < daja77> re 22:09 < owl> jo daja77 22:09 < owl> aehio hi 22:10 < owl> .oO(the keyboard and /me are not friends today) 22:10 < daja77> hi owl 22:10 < owl> how are you? 22:11 < daja77> quite ok thx 22:19 -!- mX5 [~mX5@D4f7c.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:43 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-136-230.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:48 < netrunne1> hm, 1267 builds total, 1028 completed fine, 117 with errors. p4-generic with gcc34 22:48 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 22:49 < daja77> netrunner: you got a beamer? 22:49 < netrunner> 122 packages missing. looks like I can install that thing tomorrow. 22:50 < netrunner> daja77: 90% yes. from chip. I was unhappy because my contact there wants my communicator back :/ 22:50 < daja77> :( 22:53 < daja77> 1256 builds total, 1035 completed fine, 126 with errors. 22:53 < daja77> ^^ 22:53 < netrunner> seems that I have some uncommitted packages in my repo :) 22:54 < daja77> hm two of my packages are broken with gcc-3.4 >_< 23:00 < daja77> rxr: that update for lingnomemm 2.6.1 does not exists ... 23:01 < owl> how many years does "kdepim" need to build on a p4 mobile with 1,8 ghz? 23:02 < daja77> hehe 23:02 < owl> not funny *sigh* 23:04 < netrunner> owl: wait a second ... 23:04 < owl> hm? 23:04 < netrunner> a bit more than 1h 40min :) 23:05 < netrunner> (I build on a 2ghz P4m) 23:05 < owl> WAAAAAH!!!! 23:05 < daja77> slwo machines :P 23:05 < owl> sch... even my hamster randalliert now in his cage O_o 23:05 < owl> daja77: notebook ;p 23:05 < netrunner> owl: I can send you this build when it's finished. 23:05 < netrunner> owl: but it's with gcc34 and glibc 234 23:06 < Lorini> owl: be happy, your hamster doesnt piss on your bed.. 23:06 < daja77> lol @ Lorini 23:07 < owl> netrunner: nope. thx. i just wanted to build kpilot... and needed kdepim for that... and build is running since about - dunno. maybe 1:30 23:07 < owl> Lorini: no, but sometimes onto my hand :( 23:08 < daja77> you could use jpilot as well 23:08 < owl> hm. it complains about "not able to bind" or something with my zire31 23:09 < daja77> ic 23:10 * daja77 off to bed now 23:10 < Lorini> n8 daja 23:11 < Lorini> owl: i would prefer your hamster *g* 23:11 < owl> why? ;) 23:11 < owl> gn8 daja77 23:12 < netrunner> n8 daja77 23:13 < Lorini> well.. it takes seconds to wash your hands. how long does it take to clean a bed? 23:13 < netrunner> just place a deo nearby :) 23:14 < owl> i dunno. ;) 23:16 -!- mX5 [~mX5@D4f7c.d.pppool.de] has quit ["..bin wech..yo"] 23:18 < owl> somone wants to buy an audi a3 abiente? 23:18 < owl> ambiente 23:18 < Lorini> netrunner: ieh.. (in fact i used desinfektionsmittel) 23:34 < netrunner> Lorini: febreze works quite good :) 23:34 < netrunner> owl: how old? 23:34 < owl> netrunner: about one year 23:34 < netrunner> how much? 23:34 < owl> (erstzulassung: 01.07.03) 23:46 < netrunner> argl, 3-groff failed (coredump) 23:49 -!- link_ [~sascha@adsl.xan.ch] has quit ["Lost terminal"] --- Log closed Thu Jun 17 00:00:32 2004