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--- Log opened Thu Jun 24 00:00:23 2004 00:08 -!- esden is now known as esden|zZz 00:27 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:2dcd] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:27 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:2dcd] has joined #rocklinux 00:41 -!- MadTux [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 00:41 < MadTux> hi. 00:41 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:2dcd] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:42 < alex-i> hi 00:43 < alex-i> Hmm... there's no security-minded subproject? 00:44 < MadTux> rock-selinux 00:44 < MadTux> not officialy released though 00:44 < MadTux> but someday when i have time it will. 00:44 < alex-i> Where can I download it? 00:44 < alex-i> Or, read? 00:44 < MadTux> what do u want to know about it? 00:45 < alex-i> What have been changed? 00:45 < alex-i> What patches, what sources, what recipes, problems? 00:45 < MadTux> well first of all u do know what selinux and/or grsecurity is? 00:45 < alex-i> sure 00:45 < MadTux> good. 00:46 < MadTux> well its a target inteded to have policies to kernel, daemons and even X11 in the mean time.. along with several patching to implement the FLASK architecture into rock. 00:47 < MadTux> s/implement/integrate 00:47 < alex-i> What about hgcc? 00:48 < alex-i> Like ProPolice? 00:48 < alex-i> It cause problem with build of XFree86 afaik. Has it been fixed? 00:48 < alex-i> sure 00:49 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:2dcd] has joined #rocklinux 00:49 < MadTux> gcc .. problem ... xfree ok u lost me somewhere 00:49 < MadTux> explain please 00:50 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:2dcd] has joined #rocklinux 00:50 -!- netcrow_ [~netcrow@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:2dcd] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:50 < alex-i> Well, if you build it with gcc with -fstac-protector-all, it won't build 00:50 < alex-i> It was fixed in OpenBSD though. 00:51 < MadTux> mm.... i should try building xfree stuff 00:51 < alex-i> Actually, I'm asking because I tried to do this when I was applying hlfs instructions. 00:59 < MadTux> i must get back to u in a little while. i'm currently doing some troubleshooting. 01:01 < alex-i> k 01:02 -!- MadTux [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ["Leaving"] 01:16 < Lorini> re 01:19 < alex-i> Hello 02:23 -!- hannes__ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:2dcd] has 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<-> irc.freenode.net quits: SMP_, Lorini, fake 07:32 -!- Netsplit over, joins: fake, Lorini 07:33 < black_day> WTF!? 07:38 < rxr> moin 07:42 < MadTux> hello rxr. 07:42 < MadTux> mm... i should try to get some sleep. 07:48 -!- SMP_ [~stefanp@vanessa.wronline.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:57 < black_day> esden|zZz: Are there irc logs for 2004? 08:03 < black_day> Btw, is there a mail-to-news gateway? 08:08 -!- SMP_ is now known as SMP 08:08 < SMP> black_day: maybe gmane has the rock lists? 08:11 -!- black_day is now known as alex-i|zZz 08:11 < alex-i|zZz> SMP: I'll check. 08:12 -!- MadTux [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit ["Leaving"] 08:39 -!- Lorini_ [~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has joined #RockLinux 08:47 -!- Lorini [~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 09:16 < netrunner> moin 09:25 < rxr> moin 09:38 < daja77> moin 09:41 < rxr> alex-i|zZz: you mean irclog like this: 09:41 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.net/irclog/ 09:50 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: fake 09:52 -!- Netsplit over, joins: fake 09:54 < Vroum> Moin all 10:26 -!- dsoul [darksoul@pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl] has joined #rocklinux 10:31 -!- sopor [~sopor@81.205-136-217.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #rocklinux 10:41 < StefanG> jippii :) 10:43 * StefanG is in KA :) 10:47 < valentin> moin 10:49 < StefanG> who is at the rock box in the moment? 10:59 * netrunner 11:06 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-2-108.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 11:24 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-5-159.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:24 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 11:52 < fake> gmornin' 11:53 < StefanG> reee 11:56 < owl> moin fake 12:01 -!- Lorini_ is now known as Lorini 12:02 < fake> hi Lorini 12:02 < Lorini> moin moin 12:07 < StefanG> fake: still want to see me? :) 12:12 < fake> StefanG: there is some coffee ready ;) 12:14 -!- StefanG [~StefanG@port-212-202-34-137.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:15 * daja77 starting his tour 12:15 < daja77> cu later that day 12:16 < valentin> Is the rock booth easy to find ? 12:19 -!- StefanG [~StefanG@port-212-202-34-137.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:26 < fake> valentin: if you look at the plan ;P 12:26 < fake> cu daja! 12:26 * fake happy to get a shower later 13:08 < jsaw> rehi@lt 13:14 -!- _NULL_ [~owl@D7002.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:14 < _NULL_> remoin 13:16 < Lorini> hi owl 13:18 < _NULL_> hi Lorini 13:31 < netrunner> fake: now I know where this smell comes from ... 13:31 < Lorini> lol 13:32 < fake> netrunner: which smell? 13:34 < netrunner> small organisms enjoying the pleisures of their lives 13:36 < netrunner> ugh, now I was close to your feet :/ 13:39 < netrunner> https://www.42.nu/~oli/cartoons/best_toilet_ever.jpg 13:41 < fake> sick 13:52 -!- mX5 [mX5@ACB1720E.ipt.aol.com] has joined #rocklinux 13:52 < mX5> hi 13:53 < mX5> Does somabody know how to install a modem ?.. 13:53 -!- esden|zZz is now known as esden 13:53 < esden> morning 13:54 < mX5> morning.. 13:54 < esden> mX5: some years ago I could answer your question positively ;) 13:55 < mX5> ;) i dont have my DSL @ the mom but i need internet .. 13:56 < mX5> and the kppp on my rocklinux box dont sees the modem 13:59 < esden> perhups you have to tell it that modem is on /dev/tts/0 or so? 13:59 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAAA65.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:00 < mX5> i tried all of the prots ..but 14:00 < mX5> ill trz to find something in the net...thx.. 14:01 -!- mX5 [mX5@ACB1720E.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 14:01 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8C99A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:02 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: kasc, SMP 14:05 < fake> https://forum.hanfburg.de/upload/mjspice.jpg.jpg 14:05 < fake> *lol* 14:05 -!- Netsplit over, joins: SMP, kasc 14:07 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> 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Lorini> netrunner: where did you "sleep" last night? *g* 15:51 < mnemoc> hi Lorini, netrunner 15:52 < Lorini> hi mnemoc 15:52 -!- _NULL_ [~owl@D7002.d.pppool.de] has quit ["..."] 15:53 < netrunner> Lorini: in a gym 15:53 < netrunner> at least there was a shower ;) 15:54 < Lorini> hm. didnt you mention any nasty smell? *g* 15:55 < fake> that's me 15:56 < Lorini> ah.. ok, ic 16:17 < alex-i|zZz> Good morning. 16:18 -!- alex-i|zZz is now known as alex-i 16:19 < dsoul> hi alex-i 16:22 < rxr> hi 16:25 < rxr> netrunner: valentin will arive tomorrow ~10.15 16:25 < valentin> yes i will :) 16:25 < rxr> netrunner: could you organize the pass for him? 16:27 < dsoul> hi rxr 16:27 < rxr> hi dsoul 16:27 < rxr> btw - 2.0.2 will be tagged tonight ... 16:28 < dsoul> cool :) 16:29 < netrunner> rxr: yes, I've got exactly one left :) 16:30 < rxr> oh - good 16:31 < rxr> netrunner: but are they limitted this year? the last years we got as many as we wanted ... 16:34 < netrunner> rxr: I registered 6 and got 6, dunno if I could get more, but probably yes. 16:34 < netrunner> rxr: btw, what do you think of the xorg patches? could you rate them so they get applied? 16:34 < netrunner> they cause no harm, and let the creator of the distribution decide. 16:39 < rxr> no - i'll rework them before they get applied ... 16:39 < rxr> btw: https://slashdot.org/pollBooth.pl?qid=1135&aid=-1 16:39 < rxr> please add a comment about missing ROCK Linux ... ;-) 16:41 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB1D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:42 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Lorini 16:42 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Lorini 17:08 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8C99A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:08 < fake> *sigh* 17:11 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8C3B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:11 < fake> I CANT STAND ANY MORE OF THESE DAMN BELLS 17:12 < Lorini> bells? 17:22 < fake> na 17:22 < fake> in some booth they have a automatic glockenspiel style ... thing 17:25 < Lorini> lol 17:27 < fake> it's driving me nuts 17:28 < Lorini> yes, i know what you mean 17:55 < alex-i> There's still no Mozilla Firebird among the packages? 17:55 < alex-i> I mean, planned ;) 17:56 < mnemoc> alex-i: fire_fox_ 17:56 < alex-i> Nice. 17:57 < alex-i> Btw, why is not Config a c/cpp program? 17:57 < alex-i> It's rather slow at times. 17:59 < alex-i> e.g. Is it planned to be so at all, or not? 18:02 < netrunner> because it's rock design to consist of shellscripts 18:05 < alex-i> Even when practically it's not the very best solution? 18:05 < alex-i> Ok, it's ok anyway. :) 18:05 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@pD9503093.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:05 < holyolli> moin 18:06 < alex-i> morning 18:08 < Lorini> hi holyolli 18:08 < holyolli> hi alex-i, Lorini 19:14 -!- ^evil [eV1L@dynadsl-080-228-95-225.ewetel.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:15 -!- ^evil [eV1L@dynadsl-080-228-95-225.ewetel.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:22 * netrunner doing a scripts/Download -all -move 19:43 < fake> *yawn* 19:45 < Lorini> tired? its 8 p.m.! 19:46 < Vroum> Thu Jun 24 19:46:59 CEST 2004 19:57 < netrunner> [17:46] < Vroum> Thu Jun 24 19:46:59 CEST 2004 19:57 < netrunner> hm 19:58 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EABD87.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:59 < Vroum> :] 20:00 < fake> Lorini: too much muscle action the last 2 days 20:00 < mnemoc> and i am waiting for lunch time :p 20:01 < mnemoc> =D 20:01 < Lorini> ic ;) 20:01 < fake> suicide is painless.... *sing* 20:02 < Lorini> hm. that's a lie 20:03 < fake> it brings on many changes... 20:05 < alex-i> Is glibc compiled against linux 2.4 in rock 2.0.0? 20:05 < alex-i> headers i meant 20:05 < mnemoc> it's compiled against default kernel 20:05 < alex-i> e.g. Is there a bug with building it with linux 2.6 headers or something? 20:05 < alex-i> Or, It's ok to change it? 20:06 < mnemoc> you may be able to build a linux26-only target 20:07 < alex-i> OK. 20:08 < fake> alex-i: if it doesn't work, please tell me/ the ml list 20:10 < alex-i> OK. But I'll do it not today possibly. (but I will) ;0 20:10 < alex-i> ;) 20:20 < daja77> re 20:21 < Lorini> huhu daja77 20:21 < daja77> hi Lorini 20:45 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has joined #rocklinux 20:50 < alex-i> Is it a bug or something: I configured gcc to be built without stack smashing protection (just to avoid random bugs---the first build), but it applied the patch anyway. 20:50 < alex-i> Well... the build failed of course 20:52 < alex-i> I mean, according to mailing list it's supposed to be added... 20:52 < alex-i> anyway 20:52 < alex-i> But... 20:54 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has joined #rocklinux 21:16 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8D1AA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:18 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8C3B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 21:25 -!- bluefire_ [bluefire@p50817E04.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:34 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:34 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has joined #rocklinux 21:34 < owl> oh. shit. blind. 21:34 < daja77> hm? 21:35 < owl> oaeh. i greeted hannes... but he is not here... and now i'm seeing, that i greeted him in another channel... boook. totally blind 21:35 < daja77> hehe 21:36 -!- bluefire_ [bluefire@p50817E04.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["leaving"] 21:36 < owl> not funny ;P 21:36 < owl> are you at ltag? 21:36 < holyolli> re 21:37 < owl> hi holyolli 21:37 < holyolli> hi owl 21:38 -!- tiefengrund [hans@mab-host-38-103.mab.km3.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:38 < tiefengrund> hello 21:38 < owl> hi tiefengrund 21:42 -!- owl_ [~owl@D70e7.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:42 -!- owl_ is now known as _NULL_ 21:47 < daja77> oh bad owl is out again 21:47 < _NULL_> hm? 21:47 < daja77> nothing ... 21:48 < _NULL_> i'm still here, just from localhost... because of the lag which is enourmously while downloading isos 21:48 < daja77> hehe 21:48 < rxr> hi 21:49 < daja77> hi rxr 21:49 < _NULL_> hi rxr 21:49 < mnemoc> rehi 21:49 < daja77> mnemoc: ! 21:49 < _NULL_> hi mnemoc 21:49 < mnemoc> _NULL_! why the rename? 21:49 < mnemoc> daja77! 21:50 < tiefengrund> and why "_NULL_" ? 21:50 < _NULL_> mnemoc: see some lines above 21:50 < rxr> alex-i: Config in 2.1 already got speedups (using a C bash plugin) 21:50 < rxr> alex-i: we plan further speedups ... 21:50 < _NULL_> <- null-pointer. person who teaches/shows you the way to destruction 21:50 < mnemoc> hi rxr 21:50 < rxr> hi mnemoc 21:51 < rxr> hands _NULL_ a lolli in the hope to see a happier smile 21:51 < alex-i> That's great! 21:51 < rxr> do you use 2.0 or 2.1 ? 21:51 < alex-i> 2.0.1 now 21:51 < _NULL_> *g* no way. .oO(ok. tomorrow i will have to drive across the "highway"... maybe then ;) ) 21:52 < rxr> in 2.1 the Config is already faster 21:52 < alex-i> gonna use 2.1 when I get 2.0 installed 21:52 < rxr> yeah - sure. use 2.0 if you expect "normal" things to work ... 21:52 < alex-i> Actually, 2.1 would should work flawlessly on an lfs system ;) 21:53 < rxr> yep 2.1 is in quite a good shape (at least it was before the download reorganization ...) 21:53 < daja77> which was planned though ... 21:53 < rxr> but starting with 2.0 is good - we will have 2.0.2 in the next days 21:53 < alex-i> rxr: is there a good reading about rock not in the style of howto 21:53 < daja77> rxr: good i've been asked for new isos 21:53 < rxr> daja77: yep - sure, and we want it - just that I have not tested it yet and wanted to prevent "but it fails miserably here" calls ... 21:54 < alex-i> rxr: I mean, what ideas were put in, how the authors were thinking, etc? 21:54 < daja77> rxr: ack 21:54 < rxr> alex-i: you know the handbook? 21:54 < alex-i> It's still like howto 21:54 < daja77> it will be compared to suse 9.1 which runs quite well, debian has already lost ... 21:54 < alex-i> I read it already. 21:55 < rxr> alex-i: ah - but the handbook is still in the process fo creation - so do not expect all answers in it ... 21:55 < rxr> alex-i: any comment about the book? 21:55 < alex-i> Well, I'd rather get an even more general picture. More theoretical. 21:55 < alex-i> Then, it's easy to follow down the implementation 21:56 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 21:56 < alex-i> Rather than look at the code and then understand the general picture. 21:56 < rxr> sure 21:56 < rxr> I keep this in mind when I continue to write the handbook 21:56 * daja77 off 21:57 < _NULL_> bye daja77 *waves* 21:57 < rxr> alex-i: in which country are you located? 21:57 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 21:59 < mnemoc> .oO( weird why to ask where someone lives )o 21:59 < mnemoc> s/why/way/ 21:59 < Lorini> lol 22:00 < rxr> mnemoc: you are right 22:00 < rxr> alex-i: whare are you currently living? 22:00 < rxr> mnemoc: better? 22:00 < rxr> ,) 22:00 < mnemoc> :) 22:00 < tcr> mnemoc, He might be travelling 22:00 < rxr> tcr: ok 22:00 < mnemoc> hi tcr 22:00 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has joined #rocklinux 22:01 < rxr> where are you currently chilling around? ... 22:01 < mnemoc> pimping? 22:01 < mnemoc> :p 22:01 < tcr> rxr: Actually, I intended that argument as defense for your wording 22:01 < rxr> tcr: yes - but I wanted to include the human friendlyness mnemoc intended ;-) 22:02 < rxr> alex-i: I just aksed because if it is europe german speaking country there is an ROCK article in the next Linux Intern ... - which micht give you some more general view ... 22:02 < rxr> /we filling the press w/ rock pr ... 22:03 < rxr> and as a bonus the CD includes a minmal-dRock-2.0.2 ... 22:03 < mnemoc> rxr: update 'breaking news' on rl.o 22:03 < rxr> when the paper is at the kiosks ... 22:03 < mnemoc> :) 22:04 < rxr> ah - and it will include (the article is not written by me) an interview with me ... 22:05 < mnemoc> OT: libtool hack-master... do u have any idea why bdb42 is packing .lo files on .a? 22:06 < rxr> do you mean me? 22:06 < mnemoc> the content of libdb-4.2.a.... we talked about this before 22:07 < mnemoc> .lo files, as .la, are text files with references to valid .o and .a files 22:07 * fake off to kalug party 22:08 < mnemoc> but libdb*-4.2.a pack .lo instead of .o files 22:08 < mnemoc> cu musle-fake 22:09 < rxr> I have some feeling why this could happen 22:09 < rxr> I review their builds after the change I'm currentl testing ... 22:09 -!- kasc_ [kasc@dsl-082-083-043-182.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:11 [Users #rocklinux] 22:11 [ _NULL_] [ fake ] [ kasc_ ] [ owl ] [ StefanG ] [ valentin] 22:11 [ alex-i] [ Freak ] [ Lorini ] [ rolla] [ tcr ] [ Vroum ] 22:11 [ blindy] [ hannes_ ] [ luckz ] [ rxr ] [ tfing ] 22:11 [ daja77] [ holyolli] [ mistik1 ] [ SMP ] [ th_ ] 22:11 [ dsoul ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc ] [ snyke] [ tiefengrund] 22:11 [ esden ] [ kasc ] [ netrunne1] [ sopor] [ togg ] 22:11 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 32 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 32 normal] 22:13 < mnemoc> _please_ add it to your todo.... i need to upate apache but i need suexec :| 22:14 < rxr> mnemoc: I want to do it immediately after I implemented skipping configure runs in the read flist log ... 22:15 < mnemoc> good.... .oO( btw, i hope that would be enough to solve the dependencies s.th )o 22:16 < rxr> I also hope this will imrove the situation 22:17 < rxr> it is stuff like "configure checing for m$ windows and accidently reading wine headers on the way" ... - and so xemacs or similar depends on wine ... 22:18 < mnemoc> outch 22:20 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-213-023-208-070.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 22:20 -!- kasc_ is now known as kasc 22:36 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has joined #rocklinux 22:39 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@pD9503093.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:44 -!- tiefengrund [hans@mab-host-38-103.mab.km3.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:44 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: tfing, jsaw, _NULL_, esden, kasc, StefanG, dsoul, mnemoc 22:47 -!- Netsplit over, joins: StefanG, dsoul, mnemoc 22:48 -!- Netsplit over, joins: kasc, _NULL_, tfing, esden, jsaw 22:53 < rxr> so mnemoc - now your bdb review is only some minutes away 22:54 * mnemoc waiting 22:54 < mnemoc> .oO( if you look at bdb patch too, much better )o 22:55 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EABD87.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:56 < rxr> mnemoc: yeah yeah 22:59 < rxr> ok - now to the bdb 22:59 < rxr> which one to look at first? 4.2 or 4.1 ? 23:00 < Vroum> 4.2 ? :) 23:00 < rxr> bdb-4.2 23:00 < mnemoc> 4.1 is fine 23:00 < mnemoc> 4.2 is doing the .lo thing 23:01 < rxr> ok 23:26 < Lorini> everything is great :) 23:26 < Lorini> (just wanted to tell you) 23:33 < rxr> *lol*: :> is legal. It is a digraph for the ']' character, not a smiley (smileys are unsupported in the C++ language outside comment blocks, which is rather a shame). 23:33 < rxr> mnemoc: and yes - I'm still @bdb - just waiting for the build to finish 23:35 < mnemoc> :) 23:35 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8D1D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:39 -!- luckz [luckz@luckz.de] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:40 < rxr> mnemoc: I think our no_inst_major patch is defective 23:40 < mnemoc> yes? 23:41 < mnemoc> it's not high-thought, but it looks fine to me 23:42 -!- luckz [luckz@luckz.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:42 < rxr> yep - it is 23:42 < mnemoc> :( 23:42 < rxr> this is the cause: 23:42 < rxr> -libdb= $(libdb_base).a 23:42 < rxr> +libdb= $(libdb_base)-$(LIBVERSION).a 23:43 < rxr> I'll fix this ... 23:43 < mnemoc> .oO( i think that has been present for a while )o 23:43 -!- esden is now known as esden|zZz 23:44 -!- mX5 [~siechstel@ACB1F917.ipt.aol.com] has joined #rocklinux 23:44 < mnemoc> that's the reason of the .lo thing? 23:44 < _NULL_> hi mX5 23:44 < rxr> mnemoc: yes 23:44 < mnemoc> oh 23:44 * mnemoc kicks himself 23:44 < rxr> mnemoc: the makefile is not using the correct rule then ... 23:44 < mnemoc> oh 23:44 < mX5> hi 23:44 < mnemoc> hi mX5 23:45 < rxr> I sort out a less intrusive way 23:45 < rxr> hi mX5 23:48 < rxr> mnemoc: build running 23:48 < valentin> hi 23:48 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8D1AA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:49 -!- _NULL_ [~owl@D70e7.d.pppool.de] has quit [".oO( zZzZz )"] 23:49 < mnemoc> have you applied bdb patch to that build or you will check that later? 23:49 < rxr> hi valentin 23:50 < rxr> mnemoc: I meant - building to test the bdb patch ... ;-) 23:50 < valentin> soon to bed (sleep for 3h) 23:50 < mnemoc> good :) 23:50 < rxr> .oO ( hoping this is sufficient ...) 23:50 < mnemoc> 2.1? 23:50 < mnemoc> you mayy have problems with pkgcheck usage 23:51 < rxr> ? 23:51 < rxr> ach you meant that patch ... 23:51 < rxr> no - I was talking about my updated patch to fix .la ... 23:51 < rxr> your patch is in the serialization queue after that ... 23:52 < mnemoc> i have a patch for that patch 23:52 < mnemoc> but it still use pkgcheck because pkginstall@2.0 thing 23:54 * rxr again handediting patches like crazy 23:55 < mnemoc> :\ 23:55 < mnemoc> wasn't that? 23:56 < rxr> not yours ... ;-) 23:57 < mnemoc> :p --- Log closed Fri Jun 25 00:00:41 2004