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--- Log opened Fri Jun 25 00:00:41 2004 00:01 < alex-i> rxr: USA 00:02 < rxr> ah ok - so no article for you yet ... 00:02 < rxr> alex-i: I wrote the the linux journal two times already - and never got a reply ... :-( 00:03 < alex-i> rxr: I was away, sorry. 00:03 < alex-i> rxr: english LJ? 00:03 < alex-i> rxr: Actually, if it's online, then I could try google on it. 00:03 < alex-i> rxr: You have a url? 00:04 * rxr must write strangely today ... - everyone misunderstandws me 00:04 < rxr> alex-i: no - I meant I wrote to the LJ two times asking for the possiblity to get an article printer ... 00:05 < rxr> so there is none yet .. :-( 00:05 < alex-i> :( 00:06 < alex-i> Has anybody succeeded building rock with stack smashing? 00:06 < alex-i> protection... 00:07 < mnemoc> i guess the patch is a bit outdated 00:07 < alex-i> Looks like a bug... 00:12 < rxr> alex-i: I use it every now and then ... - but not in the last days ... 00:12 * rxr just Emerged bdb42 in the wrong rock source tree ... 00:13 < rxr> I guess an indication to crawl into bed ... 00:15 < mnemoc> yes :\ 00:16 < valentin> gn8 00:17 < mnemoc> n8 valentin 00:18 < rxr> n8 valentin 00:18 -!- mX5 [~siechstel@ACB1F917.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:19 < rxr> maybe we should not patch bdb* ad all 00:20 < rxr> just use the install wrapper to tranform the major ones on the fly to /tmp/ conditionally in the bdb_config.sh 00:20 < mnemoc> how whould you handle multiversions then? 00:20 < rxr> at all 00:20 < mnemoc> mmm 00:20 < rxr> or /dev/null if this work flawlessly 00:20 < mnemoc> libtools gets mad with install_wrapper 00:23 < rxr> hm? 00:23 < rxr> I mean to dispose the unwanted major and default libs 00:23 < rxr> not to keep them 00:23 < rxr> so either /tmp since they will not be archived - treates as temp files 00:24 < rxr> or /dev/null directly - if this works 00:24 < rxr> nothing to upset libtool 00:24 < mnemoc> iirc libtools tries to run ranlib after install 00:25 < rxr> aha ... 00:25 < rxr> I apply it as it is now - and then work on s.th. more state of the art the next days - maybe after 2.0.2 I want to push out tomorrow 00:25 < rxr> (and yes I know about the pending patch candidates ...) 00:27 < dsoul> :> 00:28 < mnemoc> rxr: will you apply it to 2.0 too? 00:31 < rxr> the .a fix - yes of course - it is a grave bug ... 00:32 < mnemoc> =) 00:33 < rxr> commited 00:33 < rxr> to 2.1 00:33 < rxr> 2.0 merge now 00:33 < mnemoc> i'll try to send an incremental patch for bdb patch later 00:33 < rxr> s/now/in proress now/ 00:38 < rxr> mnemoc: ok 2.0 merged 00:38 < rxr> Committed revision 3386. 00:38 < rxr> so - I need sleep - n8 all - cu in the morning 00:39 < dsoul> bye rxr 00:39 < mnemoc> n8 & thanks rxr 00:40 < rxr> no problem - I hope it also works for you ... 00:41 < mnemoc> me too :) 00:43 -!- luckz [luckz@luckz.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:44 [Users #rocklinux] 00:44 [ alex-i ] [ fake ] [ Lorini ] [ owl ] [ sopor ] [ valentin] 00:44 [ blindy ] [ Freak ] [ mistik1 ] [ rolla] [ StefanG] [ Vroum ] 00:44 [ daja77 ] [ hannes_] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr ] [ tfing ] 00:44 [ dsoul ] [ jsaw ] [ netcrow ] [ SMP ] [ th_ ] 00:44 [ esden|zZz] [ kasc ] [ netrunner] [ snyke] [ togg ] 00:44 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 27 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 27 normal] 00:45 < rxr> 2196 builds total, 1590 completed fine, 26 with errors. 00:45 < rxr> and some are regressions introduced on my side - stuff not committed 00:45 < rxr> ^- 2.0 of course ... 00:45 -!- luckz [luckz@luckz.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:46 < rxr> so looks quite ok - I guess better than 2.0.0 and 2.0.1 - but I have not done ref builds for 2.0 for some time - so I'm not 100% sure ... 00:46 < mnemoc> i'm using 2.0, but not a full 2.0 00:47 < rxr> I also use of course 2.0 - but I normally only build desktop 00:47 < rxr> recently I lack the time to do other fun builds ... 00:47 < mnemoc> me too :( 00:48 < rxr> fun builds == just for fun and -> /dev/null ... ;-) 00:48 -!- fake [~fake@rapidnetworks.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:49 < mnemoc> i was playing with some 'funny' targets but no money to keep on them :\ 00:50 * rxr now off - cu 01:09 < mnemoc> apache at prio=150? wtf 01:09 < mnemoc> that's _before_ bdb 01:11 < rxr> mnemoc: clifford said in 2.1 some are messed up 01:11 < rxr> mnemoc: or dou ya have it in 2.0 ? 01:12 < mnemoc> unproper merge 01:12 < mnemoc> i moved it back 01:12 < rxr> oh 01:12 < rxr> ok - in 2.0 it is: 01:12 < rxr> [P] X -----5---9 511.000 01:12 < rxr> so improper merge ony our side only? 01:13 < mnemoc> only mine 01:13 < mnemoc> when i merge the update i merge the prio too 01:14 * mnemoc trying to remeber which other prio got merged 01:15 < mnemoc> # ./scripts/Create-Diff . ../.rock-2.0 | less <--- this will be looong 01:17 < rxr> so - my iBook is finally re Emerging the e17 repository over night 01:17 < mnemoc> good... only clamav which was moved ahead 01:17 < rxr> finally off - really this time 01:17 * mnemoc kicks rxr to bed 01:33 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:50 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has joined #rocklinux 02:25 -!- alex-i [~alex@4.5.85.139] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:25 -!- alex-i [~alex@4.5.85.139] has joined #rocklinux 02:31 -!- alex-i [~alex@4.5.85.139] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:34 -!- alex_ [~alex@4.5.85.139] has joined #rocklinux 02:48 -!- alex_ [~alex@4.5.85.139] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 02:49 -!- sack [~sack@dynadsl-080-228-95-225.ewetel.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:53 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:53 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:05 -!- alex_ [~alex@4.5.85.139] has joined #rocklinux 03:14 -!- fake [~fake@rapidnetworks.de] has joined #rocklinux 03:45 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has joined #rocklinux 03:47 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has joined #rocklinux 03:53 -!- alex__ [~alex@4.5.85.139] has joined #rocklinux 03:53 -!- alex_ [~alex@4.5.85.139] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:06 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@p54803E6F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:06 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD958F4A8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 04:06 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy 04:23 -!- alex__ [~alex@4.5.85.139] has quit [Client Quit] 04:43 -!- sack [~sack@dynadsl-080-228-95-225.ewetel.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 05:02 -!- sack [~sack@dynadsl-080-228-95-225.ewetel.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:08 -!- sack [~sack@dynadsl-080-228-95-225.ewetel.net] has quit [Client Quit] 09:16 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8CC55.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 09:28 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8D1D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:49 < netrunne1> moin 09:49 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 10:13 < rxr> moin 10:23 < netrunner> moin rxr, valentin just arrived 10:23 < rxr> cool - greating to all 10:24 < netrunner> 2 gentoo people here ready to be converted ;) 10:24 < rxr> cool! 10:45 < valentin> hi from LinuxTag. 10:48 < rxr> hi valentin 10:50 < rxr> the platform idependance of Java: 10:50 < rxr> One big problem was Eclipse had never been run on a 64-bit platform and it contained some code, specifically the interface between SWT, the graphics toolkit in Eclipse, and its native C libraries, that assumed 32-bit addresses. Aside from having to create a clean 64-bit version of SWT, we were faced with a more significant problem: no 64-bit Java Virtual Machine (JVM) for x86_64, AMD's 64-bit architecture, existed at the time, and it didn't look hopeful that one would be available before we had to ship. 10:50 < rxr> valentin: how is it over there? 10:50 < daja77> moin 10:51 < valentin> nice 10:57 < valentin> i convinced one guy to try rock on his iBook instead of gentoo 10:58 < daja77> hehe 11:00 < valentin> rxr:scribus people are sitting 5m away from us 11:03 < rxr> valentin: do you have seen the text flickering here? 11:03 < rxr> valentin: you could take a look if it is the same over at them ... 11:03 < valentin> rxr: maybe later 11:06 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-5-51.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 11:12 -!- owl_ [~owl@D7008.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:12 -!- owl_ is now known as _NULL_ 11:13 < _NULL_> hi 11:14 < dsoul> hi _NULL_ :) 11:15 < _NULL_> hi dsoul ;) 11:15 < _NULL_> how are you? 11:16 < jsaw> g'morning 11:16 < _NULL_> hi jsaw 11:17 < jsaw> hi owl 11:17 < rxr> hi jsaw 11:17 < jsaw> hi rxr 11:18 < rxr> ouhm - no I know why my ssh connection is so slugish 11:18 < rxr> we are google-botted ... 11:19 < _NULL_> google-botted? O_o 11:19 < _NULL_> hi rxr 11:20 -!- alex_ [~alex@4.5.88.107] has joined #rocklinux 11:21 < dsoul> _NULL_ breakfast & job :) 11:21 < alex_> dsoul: worse 11:21 < dsoul> alex_ ? 11:22 -!- alex_ is now known as hopeful_day 11:22 < hopeful_day> ;) 11:24 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-2-108.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:24 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 11:26 < dsoul> :> 11:34 -!- esden|zZz is now known as esden 11:35 < esden> hi ho 11:35 < _NULL_> hi esden ! 11:35 < esden> ohh eine owl 11:35 < _NULL_> yeps. why? 11:37 < dsoul> hi esden 11:39 < rxr> is clifford around @ LT? 11:39 < valentin> according to daja he is 11:40 < daja77> perhaps sleeping or eating or whatever atm 11:40 < rxr> ah 11:41 < rxr> when he arrives he could do some rsync configuration on his site to match recent download changes on my master server site ... 11:57 < fake> gmornin 11:57 < dsoul> ho fake 11:57 < dsoul> hi :) 11:57 < fake> morning dsoul 11:58 < fake> rxr: why did you add MYARCH to a crossbuild @dietlibc? 11:59 < rxr> fake: I will review this later today 12:00 < rxr> all I rember is that it fixed sparc cross build for me ... 12:01 < fake> DING DING DING DING DING 12:02 < _NULL_> hi fake 12:02 < fake> rxr: and it broke it for me ;) 12:02 < fake> _NULL_: mornin' owl 12:02 < fake> ARGH: 12:02 < fake> a small grenade... just one... 12:03 < netrunner> tactical minivan ... 12:03 < netrunner> fake: we could use yours 12:03 < fake> or daja77's SCUD launcher 12:03 < fake> *klicker* hello echelon 12:03 < netrunner> ah, esden pulled the plug :) 12:04 * daja77 booting suse live cd in qemu 12:04 * netrunner moving a bit away from daja 12:05 < daja77> hehe 12:10 -!- sopor [~sopor@81.205-136-217.adsl.skynet.be] has left #rocklinux [] 12:28 * esden showing daja77 a cross ;) 12:29 < esden> hehe ... suse is too buig for daja's laptop ;) 12:31 < daja77> the live cd seems to need more than 128mb ram 12:33 < daja77> hehe esden doesn't know about my next sick project 12:33 < _NULL_> why suse? 12:34 < daja77> just for fun 12:34 < _NULL_> O_O 12:35 < daja77> what? 12:38 < rxr> daja77: sick project? 12:39 < daja77> i want to try plan9 in qemu 12:39 < rxr> oh 12:39 < daja77> if this download ever finishes 12:49 < fake> daja77: WHY? 12:50 < fake> daja77: oh, you mean the suse one... hehe 12:50 < daja77> ^^ 12:55 -!- hopeful_1ay [~alex@4.5.92.98] has joined #rocklinux 12:57 * rxr Emerging reiser4progs 12:58 -!- hopeful_day [~alex@4.5.88.107] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 13:03 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-137-230.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:04 < nzg> moin 13:05 < _NULL_> hi nzg ! :) 13:05 < nzg> moin _NULL_ 13:06 < nzg> what a nice nickname ;-) 13:07 < _NULL_> why? ;) 13:08 < nzg> why not? 13:08 < _NULL_> dunno. maybe because it's a nick of "negative thoughts" *cough* 13:09 < nzg> you should not consider NULL as something negative 13:10 < nzg> the fact that something is or will be NULL can be really relieving 13:12 < _NULL_> why? 13:13 < nzg> it can take away the pressure of dealing with something not null, since dealing with ANYTHING!=NULL is much more work than if(ANYTHING==NULL) 13:16 < rxr> oh - cool raining 13:16 < netrunner> here's quite a wind. would be nice to go windsurfing now 13:16 < nzg> and here's the sun shining 13:30 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-137-230.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:48 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8CC55.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:51 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8C65F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:54 < netrunner> muahaha https://fun.drno.de/flash/HomeRun.swf 13:55 * fake will not open links from netrunner anymore 14:00 < valentin> !> Apply patch /usr/src/rock/package/e17/imlib2/gcc34.patch .. 14:00 < valentin> !> patching file src/rgbadraw.c 14:00 < valentin> !> Hunk #1 FAILED at 2358. 14:00 < valentin> !> Hunk #2 FAILED at 2366. 14:00 < valentin> !> 2 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file src/rg .. 14:00 < netrunner> lol 14:00 < valentin> -> $root/var/adm/logs/9-imlib2.out -> 9-imlib2.err 14:00 < valentin> == 06/25/04 13:57:36 =[9]=> Aborted building package imlib2. 14:00 < valentin> oops wrong channel 14:09 < _NULL_> gnarf. my hair is too long... :( *having wet hair lieing on the pillow because of a too short towel* 14:09 < esden> _NULL_: then cut them 14:10 < esden> you can sell them then on ebay or so 14:10 < esden> the same applies to underware and so ;) 14:10 < esden> used underware ... 14:10 < _NULL_> nah. and: i already cut them a piece. 14:10 < netrunner> esden: we are _not_ interested in your private preferences 14:10 < _NULL_> pfui. ieeeeeeeeh. 14:11 < _NULL_> piece? no. bit 14:11 < esden> netrunner: that are not my preferences ... but my money interest 14:11 < fake> smells like fish 14:11 < esden> I know what sells best ;) 14:12 < esden> I would not buy such stuff ... but there are enough people that do 14:12 < netrunner> fake: I knew you were somehow female ;) 14:13 < _NULL_> female == smelling like fish? 14:14 < _NULL_> netrunner: !?! 14:14 < esden> fake: hehe ... I have an idea how to make money! I will buy fish ... leave it for some days in the sun ... then buy female underware and put it to the fish ... after another day or so I will sell that underware on ebay ... it will sell very well for sure! 14:15 < netrunner> _NULL_: internal joke 14:16 * _NULL_ takes the "deo-dose", a lighter and burns esden with the flame 14:16 < _NULL_> netrunner: tstststststs 14:17 < esden> _NULL_: yes burn me baby! you are so hot! 14:17 < daja77> esden: hungry? 14:17 < esden> daja77: yes 14:18 < daja77> let's go then 14:18 * valentin too 14:18 < rxr> https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=112202&threshold=1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=9518050 14:18 < blindy> hi all 14:18 < _NULL_> esden: *cough* poor esden 14:18 < _NULL_> hi blindy !!! *hug* 14:18 < esden> huhu blindy !!! 14:18 < esden> blindy: cheers from lt ;) 14:19 < blindy> _NULL_: *rehug* 14:19 < blindy> esden: Cheers from B :) 14:19 * esden hugging blindy too ;) 14:19 * blindy backs away skeptical 14:24 < Lorini> moin 14:25 < blindy> moin Lorini 14:26 < _NULL_> hi Lorini 14:26 < Lorini> hi blindy, _NULL_ 14:35 < fake> hi Lorini! 14:35 < Lorini> huhu fake 14:35 < dsoul> hi Lorini 14:35 < Lorini> hi dsoul 14:35 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8C374.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:41 -!- batok [~batok@200.52.197.108] has joined #rocklinux 14:41 < rxr> hi batok 14:41 [Users #rocklinux] 14:41 [ _NULL_] [ esden ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc ] [ rolla ] [ tfing ] 14:41 [ batok ] [ fake ] [ kasc ] [ netcrow ] [ rxr ] [ th_ ] 14:41 [ blindy] [ Freak ] [ Lorini ] [ netrunne1] [ SMP ] [ togg ] 14:41 [ daja77] [ hannes_ ] [ luckz ] [ netrunner] [ snyke ] [ valentin] 14:41 [ dsoul ] [ hopeful_1ay] [ mistik1] [ owl ] [ StefanG] [ Vroum ] 14:41 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 30 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 30 normal] 14:49 < netrunne1> rxr: when do you think you find time for a look at corg? 5+ ... 14:51 < batok> hi 14:52 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8C65F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:52 < dsoul> hi batok 14:54 < fake> yes 14:54 < fake> i am soooooooooooo evil 14:54 * netrunne1 platsching gcc34 14:54 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 14:57 < _NULL_> platsching??? 15:07 < blindy> fake: no, you are not 15:11 -!- hopeful_1ay [~alex@4.5.92.98] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 15:11 < fake> blindy: you have no idea of how evil my evilness is 15:12 < _NULL_> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh! a part of my window felt onto my bed! O_o 15:12 < _NULL_> .oO(it's not existent, fake) 15:13 < blindy> fake: then enlighten me please >( 15:13 < blindy> _NULL_: haeh? 15:14 < _NULL_> blindy: ein teil vom holz neben meinem fenster... fensterrahmen net,... 15:14 < blindy> aha 15:21 < _NULL_> btw, someone knows where a shop for horse and riders equipment is in ingolstadt? 15:21 < Lorini> hol den vorschlaghammer! 15:21 < _NULL_> noe ;) 15:22 * Lorini singing 15:22 < _NULL_> *g* which song? 15:23 < Lorini> you will probably not like it.. ;) 15:23 < Lorini> Wir sind Helden - Denkmal 15:23 < _NULL_> hmmm. dunno... wir sind helden == punk??? 15:24 < Lorini> hm. to be honest, i dont know ;) this song is.. hm. not punk 15:24 < _NULL_> k. url to lyriks? 15:25 < blindy> Sie haben uns 15:25 < blindy> ein Denkmal gebaut 15:26 < Lorini> https://www.williger-online.de/textzeigen.php?SongID=2587 15:27 < rolla> re 15:29 < _NULL_> k. sounds... strange ;) 15:29 < Lorini> *g* 15:29 < Lorini> its great 15:29 < _NULL_> hehe. k. 15:30 < fake> blindy: a patch i will send later will show you my true evilness potenital 15:30 < _NULL_> imho "die aerzte", "die toten hosen", "but alive" and so one are great, too ;p 15:30 < Lorini> ah.. cool :) 15:31 < blindy> fake: I probably won't be abe to see it anytime soon so I have to deny your evilness >P 15:33 < SMP> Lorini: ahh haah haah Rüssel an Schwanz ... 15:34 * SMP grabs the hedphones 15:34 < SMP> headphones 15:37 < fake> blindy: sparc64 fpu support in dietlibc? *g* 15:38 < blindy> eeevil 15:40 < fake> ... ripped 1:1 from glibc... 15:40 < fake> *MUAHAAHHAHA* 15:40 < fake> .asm files bigger than the whole orig. sparc64 directory 15:41 < blindy> well that doesn"t rallz count as fpu in dietlibc, does it? 15:41 < blindy> really 15:44 -!- batok [~batok@200.52.197.108] has quit ["Kopete IRC [https://kopete.kde.org]"] 15:57 < fake> blindy? huh? 15:58 < fake> blindy: for fpu instructions gcc creates funtion calls 15:58 < fake> blindy: because some models have no fpu 15:58 < blindy> hmm 15:58 < blindy> no idea 15:58 < fake> blindy: the function can then code it's result without fpu operations 15:59 < fake> blindy: but when the CPU supports fpu operations, these functions generate the correct assembler code. 15:59 < blindy> i see 16:04 * blindy leavin 16:05 * Lorini tired 16:09 < fake> WTF 16:09 < fake> cdb/Makfile 16:09 < fake> search for auto-str 16:09 < fake> run the line 16:10 < esden> fake: I really loughed ... but you heared that ... 16:10 < esden> who wrote cdb? 16:10 < esden> ok ... jdb ... 16:10 < esden> that could only come from him! 16:14 < fake> rxr: are you here> 16:14 < fake> ? 16:20 < mnemoc> moin 16:25 -!- MadTux [~mike@master.hack-solutions.com] has joined #rocklinux 16:25 < MadTux> Greetings 16:25 -!- _NULL_ [~owl@D7008.d.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:27 < mnemoc> good day Tuxie 16:28 < MadTux> hello mnemocy 16:29 < dsoul> hi MadTux 16:29 < dsoul> hi mnemoc 16:29 < mnemoc> hi dsoul 16:30 < MadTux> hi Mike. 16:30 < rxr> fake: yes 16:30 < mnemoc> <mnemoc> good day Tuxie 16:30 < mnemoc> hi rxr 16:30 < MadTux> mnemoc: Mike meaning dsoul 16:30 < rxr> hi mnemoc 16:30 < MadTux> good day rene 16:31 < rxr> hi MadTux 16:31 < mnemoc> MadTux: oh 16:34 < rxr> so cool - now my SANE/Avision backend has an much higher sharpness 16:34 < fake> rxr: what is that cdb crap? 16:35 < fake> rxr: this is the worst compilation and makefile construction i have *ever* seen 16:35 < esden> fake: I think jdb should be killed for that? 16:35 < fake> rxr: compiling it by hanbd would be *MUCH* easier!! 16:36 < MadTux> hello esdy 16:37 < Lorini> hi MadTux 16:37 < MadTux> hi Lorini. 16:38 < mnemoc> hi esden, Lorini 16:38 < daja77> esden: ? 16:39 < fake> rxr: compiling it's own 'install' program? 16:39 < rxr> fake: what are you talking about ? 16:39 < fake> rxr: how should the cross-built auto-str in mine/cdb ever run? 16:40 < mnemoc> outch 16:40 < rxr> fake: ah - you talk about mine,... ;-) 16:40 < rxr> yes - it is ugly - I also already commented about it ... 16:40 < fake> rxr: yes 16:40 < rxr> it works for some cross builds ... 16:41 < fake> rxr: we don't need the autostr stuff 16:41 < fake> rxr: it's only used in cdb's own installer, which we don't use (i hope) 16:41 < rxr> I do not know every source line of mine 16:41 < fake> neither do i 16:44 < fake> rxr: i'll rip out all the install stuff... 16:45 < mnemoc> why not turn all that third party stuff inside mine, outside (as packages)? 16:47 < MadTux> ok i'm going to sleep a bit.. cya later 16:47 < mnemoc> cu MadTux 16:47 < MadTux> night. 16:47 < MadTux> :) 16:47 < mnemoc> ^^ 16:47 -!- MadTux [~mike@master.hack-solutions.com] has quit ["leaving"] 16:51 < fake> mnemoc: because it's like statically against mine 16:51 < mnemoc> yes, but not only against mine 16:52 < fake> but? 16:52 < mnemoc> updates, patches, etc... imply mine updates 16:53 < fake> what other program does link against cdb? 16:53 < mnemoc> some personal packages i have here :p 16:54 < mnemoc> then i have cdb and libtar as packages here *g* 16:55 < fake> mnemoc: why not commit a patch? ;) 16:55 < fake> mnemoc: but PLEASE test crosscompiling beforehand... muhahaha. 16:55 < fake> rxr: why is cdb-0.7.5.patch never applied?? 16:55 < rxr> IIRC this is what clifford and I applied to the vanilla version 16:55 < mnemoc> that kind of stuff gets solved with a cdb package :p 16:56 < fake> rxr: do i need to update the unused patchfile inside the package? 16:56 < rxr> the one in the tarball / SVN is already patched 16:56 < fake> i.c. 16:57 < fake> and you wrote another patch and patched the patch file as well as the files in cdb../ 16:57 < fake> then i'll do so to 17:08 < rxr> I guess I did 17:22 < daja77> fake: is clifford alrady gone? 17:23 < fake> daja77: no 17:23 < fake> daja77: he will moderate the show tonight, so i guess not *g* 17:23 < daja77> what show? 17:30 -!- sopor [~sopor@106.206-136-217.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #rocklinux 17:32 < fake> this is mad 17:32 < fake> daja77: hacktivity! 17:32 < fake> mine package sucks 17:32 < daja77> fake: on the social event? 17:33 < mnemoc> fake: ACK! 17:36 < mnemoc> fake: don't you want to split libgem ;) 17:37 < fake> daja77: yep 17:37 < fake> mnemoc: no. 17:37 < mnemoc> :( 17:37 < daja77> fake: k. was just asking cause I still have no ticket 17:37 < mnemoc> it's only a bit chaotic... not much 17:38 < mnemoc> daja77: are you at LT too? 17:39 < daja77> yes 17:40 < valentin> mnemoc: everybody is... 17:40 < mnemoc> .oO( am i noone )o 17:40 < mnemoc> rene too? 17:40 < daja77> no 17:41 < mnemoc> .oO( i'm not the only noone! )o 17:46 * rxr hugs mnemoc 17:46 < rxr> yep - I'm sitting here alone in berlin ... 17:47 * Lorini also sitting at home 17:49 < fake> rxr: patchpatch ready... boy. that's a brain screwer. 17:49 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8C374.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:52 < fake> rxr: patch sent to sm 17:56 * mnemoc gives a glass of carmenere to rxr 17:59 < mnemoc> [11:56:58] * mnemoc gives a glass of carmenere to rxr 17:59 < mnemoc> err 17:59 < mnemoc> sorry 18:03 < valentin> this sun *sucks* 18:04 < mnemoc> it's right in front of you? 18:04 -!- StefanG_ [~StefanG@port-212-202-34-137.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:05 < valentin> it burns my neck and toasts my display 18:06 < valentin> i have to view from an angle of 60deg, otherwise i only see green 18:07 < mnemoc> get an umbrella ^^ 18:08 < valentin> good idea - or maybe i schold get a big poster from the microsoft booth and nail it on the window 18:10 < mnemoc> win2003 will enlight you 18:10 < mnemoc> .oO( what was the name of xp-server? )o 18:11 < valentin> unlight you even 18:11 < mnemoc> :p 18:11 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8CD33.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:15 < mnemoc> hi netrunner 18:16 < netrunner> now my connection was ok, but the stupid nameservers didn't reply any more :/ 18:16 < netrunner> hi mnemoc 18:17 < mnemoc> when will you change isp? ;) 18:17 -!- StefanG [~StefanG@port-212-202-34-137.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:18 -!- sopor [~sopor@106.206-136-217.adsl.skynet.be] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:24 * netrunner added pentium-m(e) support for gcc. 18:25 < mnemoc> oh 18:26 < netrunner> I compiled everything with p4 for my laptop and had to learn that it nmisses some instruction sets. 18:28 < mnemoc> .oO( something remembers me epia )o 18:30 < rxr> netrunner: what do you have pentium-m centrino stuff? 18:32 < netrunner> rxr: ibm x40 18:33 < netrunner> wasn't such a problem because most stuff doesn't use those extensions, but sdl stuffe parrachutes and glxgears came to my mind ... 18:33 < mnemoc> what instructions? 18:33 < mnemoc> s/what/which/ 18:39 < netrunner> this patch adds support for pentium-m CPU (used by Centrino notebooks) 18:39 < netrunner> that is mostly like P3 but with SSE2 and new P4 with SSE3. Intel 18:39 < netrunner> marketing scheme is confusing enough to use same name for P4 and P4 with 18:39 < netrunner> SSE3 but they attach letter 'E' to the MHZ number, so I added it as 18:39 < netrunner> pentium4e. 18:40 < netrunner> (quote from where I got the patch) 18:43 < rxr> please stop throwing gcc patches into ROCK Linxu 18:43 < rxr> push them to the gcc people so they are in the next version 18:43 < rxr> but this epia target is already enough cruft 18:43 < netrunner> this is from gcc mailing list 18:43 < rxr> mnemoc: PLEASE push this stuff UPSTREAM 18:43 < rxr> then vote there that you want to see it included 18:44 < mnemoc> me? what stuff am i adding? 18:44 < rxr> mnemoc: tab typo 18:44 < mnemoc> :p 18:44 < netrunner> and the patch for epia was rejected with the statement that the cmov, which is defined optional, should be inevery hardware ignoring the fact that there could be one without. 18:44 < rxr> but I'll discard any other gcc bloat - when a new gcc version is out I just want to bump the version number and be finished - I'll not want to get thru ugly arch patches that add bloat 18:45 < rxr> and if this is just sse stuff (which you will not notice in real world performance anyway) you could jsut add it as this to our gcc-config: 18:46 < rxr> pentium4e -march=pentiumIII -msse2 or so 18:46 < netrunner> I do not think this is bloat but feature enhancement 18:50 * fake would love to send patches to e2fsprogs and util-linux upstream 18:50 < rxr> nonsense 18:50 < rxr> ROCK is about clean packages - not heavily bloated patched and uglyfied packages as other distributions 18:50 < rxr> ship 18:51 < rxr> one goal from the first hour has been less patches as possible 18:51 < rxr> no patch hell 18:52 < rxr> and I bet you do not find much real-world benchmarks where the gcc patch makes a meassureable difference anyway 18:53 < rxr> s/much/many/ 18:53 < mnemoc> rxr: what do you mean? p3/p4 optimization differences is not significative? 18:53 < rxr> put it in gcc-config for now - and get is upstream 18:54 < esden> ok ... cu guys 18:54 -!- esden is now known as esden|bbl 18:54 < netrunner> rxr: start with the kernel ... 18:55 < rxr> mnemoc: netrunner quote says he wants pIII + sse2 18:58 < netrunner> it's even an extra kernel build option. 19:00 < rxr> and? 19:21 < fake> hm... using 'ar', 'ranlib' and 'strip' without checking $AR, $RANLIB and $STRIP seems to be very common (ufortunately) 19:23 < mnemoc> maybe we should provide {ar,ranlib,strip} wrappers for packages calling them directly ($PATH dependant( 19:23 < mnemoc> but that can explote 19:24 < mnemoc> .oO( my evil mind tells me: "add an exec redirector on LD_PRELOAD" )o 19:26 < mnemoc> i'll have to work in controlling the evilness of my mind 19:32 < fake> mnemoc: we should just bash some package maintainers 19:32 < fake> *authors 19:34 < mnemoc> our view of opensource packages is far different than common *nix users 19:35 < mnemoc> oh... late... bbl 19:35 < fake> mnemoc: bash as in 'send patches upstream' of course 19:35 < valentin> cu later 20:18 -!- owl_ [~owl@D71ac.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:20 -!- owl_ is now known as _NULL_ 20:26 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8C2B5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:28 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8CD33.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:20 -!- _NULL_ [~owl@D71ac.d.pppool.de] has quit ["eating, playing xbox, sleeping"] 21:43 < mnemoc> rehi 21:46 < dsoul> hi mnemoc 22:00 < mnemoc> how was hacktivity? 22:09 -!- kasc_ [kasc@dsl-082-083-047-193.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:16 * rxr now running a reiser4 patches kernel on this iBook ... 22:21 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-082-083-043-182.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:21 -!- kasc_ is now known as kasc 23:02 < esden|bbl> finally back home 23:02 -!- esden|bbl is now known as esden 23:02 < esden> sigh 23:05 < rxr> esden: how was LT ? 23:07 < esden> rxr: very nice 23:07 < esden> rxr: it was real fun to see all the guys once more 23:08 * esden was looking over fake's shoulder while he was fixing rescue disc for sparc crosscompile 23:08 < esden> it was fun ;) 23:09 [Users #rocklinux] 23:09 [ blindy] [ Freak ] [ luckz ] [ owl ] [ StefanG_] [ Vroum] 23:09 [ daja77] [ hannes_] [ mistik1 ] [ rolla] [ tfing ] 23:09 [ dsoul ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr ] [ th_ ] 23:09 [ esden ] [ kasc ] [ netcrow ] [ SMP ] [ togg ] 23:09 [ fake ] [ Lorini ] [ netrunne1] [ snyke] [ valentin] 23:09 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 26 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 26 normal] 23:46 < esden> ok ... good night everyone 23:46 -!- esden is now known as esden|zZz 23:46 < esden|zZz> rxr: I was missing you there 23:52 < rxr> yeah - no time and such --- Log closed Sat Jun 26 00:00:59 2004