--- Log opened Sat Jun 26 00:00:59 2004
00:32  * rxr hacking reiser4progs
00:33 < rxr> every person in the world should develop sofware on both bin and little endin boxes in parallel
01:05 < Lorini> moin
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01:40 < rxr> moin Lorini 
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01:42 < Lorini> hi rxr
02:11 < rxr> cool - the gcc people discuss if they introduce C++ into the gcc source 
02:12 < rxr> n8 all
02:12 < mnemoc> soon you will need a java compiler to compile a plain c compiler
02:18 < rxr> na
02:18 < rxr> and C++ is cool
02:22 < mnemoc> if it still buildeable with the old cc inclueded on irix4.somthing at my univ, c++ would be fine to me
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04:04 < alex-i> I wonder, why are checks being made in the first stage?
04:04 < alex-i> They are for certain to fail...
04:17 < mnemoc> why?
04:18 < mnemoc> aa... checks are done over host system to know if it will be able to run our scripts
04:18 < rolla> re
04:18 < mnemoc> if it fails because $foo, you have to use Emerge-Package $foo
04:18 < mnemoc> re rolla 
04:20 < alex-i> yep
04:20 < rolla> mnemoc: do you use mysql?
04:20 < mnemoc> finaly the summary for tomorrows exam is finished
04:20 < mnemoc> rolla: only postgres
04:20 < alex-i> Actually, could I have a bootdisk without dietlibc?
04:20 < alex-i> It causes failures...
04:21 < mnemoc> you need dietlibc installed locally to build bootdisk
04:21 < alex-i> On my system?
04:21 < alex-i> I mean on host?
04:21 < mnemoc> yes
04:21 < alex-i> :/
04:21 < mnemoc> crap, i know
04:21 < alex-i> Ok, I'll do it.
04:21 < alex-i>  :) Thank you.
04:22 < mnemoc> i don't like dietlibc but i have had no time to trace a problem on uclibc
04:22 < mnemoc> alex-i: you are welcome ;)
04:22 < mnemoc> now i have to 'find' a printer this late :-(
04:22 < mnemoc> gotta go.... cu
04:26 < alex-i> cu
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07:49 < alex-i> Whey! Coreutils didn't fail! :)
07:54 < alex-i> :( gzip and tar failed again
07:55 < alex-i> Looks like the problem with ld and the usage of dietlibc on my host system....
08:17 < alex-i> no...
08:20 < alex-i> I think, I'd need some help...
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08:41 < rxr> moin
08:42 < dsoul> hi rxr 
08:43 < rxr> hi dsoul 
09:11 < netrunne1> moin
09:11 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner
09:12 < rxr> hi netrunner 
09:12 < netrunner> as usual, I am the first :/
09:19 < dsoul> hi netrunner :)
09:21 < netrunner> hi dsoul
10:28 < valentin> moin
10:39 < dsoul> hi valentin 
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10:46 < _NULL_> hi
10:56 < dsoul> hi _NULL_ :)
10:56 < _NULL_> hi dsoul 
11:04 < Lorini> moin moin
11:04 < _NULL_> hi Lorini 
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11:11 < fake> moin
11:11 < fake> for all who tried teamspeak: there is a virus in it (at least in the windows version)
11:11 < fake> PWS.Hooker.Trojan
11:12 < Lorini> hmpf
11:13 < fake> but fortunately not in the server *g*
11:14 < _NULL_> teamspeak? isn't that an tool used by gamers? O_o
11:23 < fake> or by clifford *g*
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11:24 < _NULL_> lol. ok 
11:24 < daja77> lol fake
11:27 < fake> hum?
11:30 < daja77> oh nothing
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11:32 < SMP> fake: is this different from http://www.teamspeak.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=14530 ?
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11:37 < netrunner> oh, /me just realised that his irssi was suspended :/
11:38 < fake> SMP: no
11:38 < fake> SMP: streber ;P
11:39 < fake> SMP: how was the concert? 
11:42 < netrunner> [X] send vids ;)
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12:02 < netrunne1> rxr: dead links to rlcs on http://www.rocklinux.org/94.html
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12:03 < ssimon> daja77: lo. :)
12:04 < Lorini> hi ssimon
12:04 < daja77> hi ssimon 
12:04 < ssimon> hi Lorini.
12:04 < netrunner> Lorry :)
12:04 < ssimon> daja77: are you at the rocklinux both? :)
12:04 < daja77> yep
12:04 < _NULL_> hi ssimon , herzi_lap 
12:05 < herzi_lap> hi _NULL_
12:05 < ssimon> hi _NULL_.
12:05 < Lorini> netrunner: you don't mean me, do you?
12:05 < ssimon> daja77: wanna come to the holarse both?
12:05 < netrunner> Lorini: would I? :)
12:06 < daja77> ssimon: aye
12:06 < Lorini> daja77: give comrad a hug from me *gg*
12:07 < daja77> O_o
12:07 < daja77> bbl
12:08 < _NULL_> .oO( daja77 is really giving him a hug now *thinking* *eg* )
12:10 < Lorini> why can't i be there to see it? *sigh*
12:10 < _NULL_> hehe. /me would like to see it, too *vbeg*
12:15 < daja77> erhm I greeted him ...
12:16 < Lorini> ;)
12:16 < _NULL_> daja77 just doesn't want to say, what he really did *vvvbeg*
12:16 < _NULL_> (sorry, i'm in bad mood - might using a bit too much cynismn or so)
12:19 < ssimon> daja77: damn jolt drugs ;)
12:20 < daja77> ssimon: hm?
12:20 < daja77> ssimon: btw http://www.funroll-loops.org
12:20 < ssimon> arr, yea. thanks.
12:22 < ssimon> daja77: microsoft will do a speech (18 o'clock, i think) about their linux-windows concept.
12:22 < ssimon> wanna come with us?
12:22 < _NULL_> microsoft on LT?!!!
12:23 < daja77> ssimon: 18? 18:00 all is over
12:23 < valentin> which linux-windows conept ?
12:23 < ssimon> _NULL_: yea.
12:24 < daja77> that replace linux wth windows evil master plan
12:24 < ssimon> _NULL_: ms's visit cards are 'Facts about Windows and Linux'. at the bottom the link to the _facts_ :)
12:25 < ssimon> daja77: don't know when it is..
12:25 < _NULL_> omfg. 
12:25 < Lorini> brb
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12:25 < _NULL_> please make a video of it... i want to laugh about something
12:25 < valentin> ssimon: link?
12:26 < ssimon> valentin: the 'popular' facts link on ms site.
12:28 < valentin> oh, soo old and boring
12:28 < ssimon> valentin: i'm sitting right now so comfortable, don't want to look in my purse :)
12:28 < esden|zZz> hello everyone
12:28 < valentin> its ok, i know all about ther tco-bullshut
12:28 -!- esden|zZz is now known as esden
12:28 < valentin> hi esden
12:28 < _NULL_> hi esden|zZz 
12:28 < ssimon> hi esden.
12:28 < esden> *yawn*
12:29 < daja77> esden!
12:29 < esden> _NULL_, ssimon 
12:29 < esden> daja77!!!
12:29 < fake> *yawns*
12:30 < esden> oh fake is also awake ;-)
12:30 < daja77> yep cos we had to leave the hotel
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12:33 < esden> ohh poor fake
12:33 < SMP> fake: if you mean the Alanis Morissette event in Berlin - that's next week
12:34 < _NULL_> someone needs a "anleitung zum anbau von hanfpflanzen" or "hydrophonische hanfzucht"? *cough*
12:35 < ssimon> not really.
12:35 < _NULL_> *g*
12:35 < fake> SMP: but you said you couldn't come to LXtag because of alanis ....
12:36 < ssimon> guys, visit the holarse both. :)
12:37 < netrunner> SMP: hey, you cheated!
12:37 < fake> ...
12:37 < SMP> I said I had to chose between the two, but not because of an overlap
12:38 < fake> SMP: excuses, excuses.
12:38 < SMP> I can hardly walk these days anywy
12:38 < fake> why?
12:38 < SMP> I had a surgery on my toes on monday
12:39 < SMP> (and it FUCKING hurt)
12:39 < daja77> ssimon: why we can play games here too :p
12:39 < valentin> ssimon: bzflag *rules*
12:46 < fake> SMP: oh my... :(
12:48 < ssimon> daja77: caedes and me did the mission *g*
12:48 < ssimon> daja77: will tell you per /msg *g*
12:50 < netrunner> SMP: see, would you have come to lt, your feet were fine 
12:50 < daja77> ssimon: found no ms speech today
12:50 < daja77> maybe too confused
12:53 < SMP> netrunner: well they weren't exactly alright before
12:54 < ssimon> daja77: confused?
12:54 < SMP> hope they'll be fine enough till the concert
12:56 < fake> SMP: maybe there is a special area for impaired ppl, then you could have a seat ;)
12:57 < daja77> there is usually one, but getting a seat there could be hard
12:58 < jsaw> hi guys
12:58 < daja77> hi jsaw ;)
13:09 < esden> ok ... cu guys
13:09 -!- esden is now known as esden|bbl
13:10 < daja77> why the heck he is using status nicks now
13:12 < esden|bbl> daja77: because of other channels where people are bashing me when I do not use them
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13:18 < togg_auf_arbeit> rofl
13:18 -!- togg_auf_arbeit is now known as togg
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13:22 -!- fake is now known as fake_nuechtern|l
13:22 < daja77> lol
13:22 -!- fake_nuechtern|l is now known as fake|leider
13:22 < daja77> esden|bbl: you shouldn't join gamer/lamer chans :P
13:23 < fake|leider> YES!!!!! IT IS NOT GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
13:23 -!- fake|leider is now known as fake
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13:31 < togg> daja77: [ gamer == lamer ] && echo true || echo false
13:31 < togg> ?
13:31 < fake> not true
13:32 < togg> :)
13:32 < fake> i love frozen-bubble
13:32 < fake> and freecell
13:32 < togg> rofl
13:32 < togg> then youre not a gamer
13:32 < fake> ... and battlefield vietnam
13:32 < fake> ... and desert combat ;)
13:32 < togg> anyone here with experience on frees/wan or opens/wan ???
13:33 < fake> ages ago, yes
13:33 < togg> i want to secure my wireless links which cant do wpa
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13:33 < togg> somebody know if openswan in static key mode can be hacked?
13:33 < togg> i mean i have no ike
13:34 < togg> just pre shared keys
13:35 < fake> everything can be hacked (tm)
13:35 < togg> no.
13:35 < togg> or maybe yes
13:35 < togg> but not in reasonable time
13:35 < fake> the question is: can it be hacked in a time shorter then the lifespan of the universe.
13:35 < togg> :9
13:36 < fake> if you want multiverse-safety, you need openbsd.
13:36 < fake> *g*
13:36 < togg> why that?
13:36 < togg> and will my programs still work? :)
13:36 < togg> hostap, quagga
13:36 < togg> and so on 
13:36 < togg> i think maybe not
13:37 < togg> and a well configured linux is better than a bsd misconfiggured
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13:40 < fake> togg: i don't know about quagga, but hostap works afaik
13:40 < togg> but ther does not exist a rockbsd :)
13:40 < togg> (yet)
13:44 < fake> togg: _yet_
13:44 < fake> togg: you could start coding *now* ;)
13:51 < jsaw> new isos for my home server burnt, /me -> home, testing *cu*
14:04  * daja77 got a games dvd
14:05 < fake> Wein Weib und Gesang *sing*
14:05 < daja77> hehe
14:05 < daja77> you have nothing of that
14:08 < Lorini> he is singing.. so he has gesang 
14:11 < fake> daja77 knows that i'm not really singing
14:21 < fake> o/~ wenn ich dich kriege, zeigt dir mein zauberstab die liebe o/~
14:21 < Lorini> lol
14:31 < netrunner> that's what's meant with body vibes? ;)
14:31 < fake> hardcore vibes?
14:48 < daja77> fake: help me, they want me to remove my suse sticker ^^
14:49 < netrunner> ??
14:51 < netrunner> http://home.t-online.de/home/Lienke/bifaz.htm
15:02 < fake> daja77: as lon as they don't fix it on your wheely
15:02 < fake> ...
15:21 < daja77> hehe
15:34 < blindy>   
15:38  * SMP w00s to rxr for merging r2792 ...
15:38 < blindy> hi
15:44 < netrunner> ho blind
15:45 < rxr> SMP: any other grave bug you have in mind that shoudl be fixed before 2.0.2?
15:46 < SMP> rxr: none that we have an acceptable fix for ;)
15:46 < rxr> hm - which ones do you have in mind we should fix soon?
15:48 < SMP> nothing for 2.0
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15:49 < SMP> for 2.1 things like redesign of sysvinit
15:52 < blindy> not too lively here today
15:55  * blindy gone again
15:55 < blindy> greetings from the CSD btw. :)
15:55 < blindy> bye
16:13 < netrunner> http://chrisrico.org/cars/cars.html
16:14  * netrunner driving home
16:16 < daja77> fake: ?
16:19 < fake> daja77: yes?
16:19  * fake will drive home now
16:20 < fake> bye
16:20 < Lorini> bye
16:20 < fake> bye bye!
17:21 < hannes_> bye all!
17:21 < hannes_> hey, we have internet connectivity in fake's bus
17:21 < hannes_> =)
17:22 < Lorini> lol
17:22 < hannes_> Lorini: greetz from fake
17:23 < Lorini> he is driving?
17:23 < hannes_> jop
17:24 < Lorini> dont kitzel him now *g*
17:24 < hannes_> we're now on the A8 towards Stuttgart
17:24 < hannes_> i'll try not to do so
17:25 < Lorini> are you from ingolstadt, too?
17:25 < hannes_> jep
17:25 < Lorini> cool
17:28 < rxr> hannes_: internet via celular phone?
17:29 < hannes_> i will disconnected now, my akku is nearly empty...
17:29 < hannes_> c'ya
17:29 < hannes_> rxr: jep
17:29 < Lorini> byebye
17:29 < hannes_> rxr: i have a dialup to my work
17:35 < esden|bbl> hi ho
17:35 -!- esden|bbl is now known as esden
17:42 < esden> ok ... everyone gone
17:42  * esden too
17:42 < esden> cu
17:51 < rxr> nope - I'm here ..
17:51 < rxr> cu esden 
18:54 < owl> esden: , hannes_ : someone knows who is in bitz?
18:56 < owl> .oO(crap)
19:47 < rxr> cu later
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19:59 < alex> Hello
19:59 < alex> Why is binutils built the first thing in the stage 2?
20:00 < alex> Won't it be more logical (and, yes, to avoid the failure) to build glibc first?
20:00 < alex> (in stage 2)
20:11 < SMP> there is no need to rebuild glibc at that point
20:18 < alex> Then binutils build fails
20:20 < alex> e.g. How would it know that suid is 0?
20:20 < alex> nm
20:20 < alex> but still, 
20:20 < alex> ok
20:21 < alex> maybe
20:21 < alex> lemme check something...
20:23 < alex> I see, the stage meanings are a bit different than what I have thought
20:23 < alex> Ok.
20:36 < owl> hi
20:37 -!- StefanG_ is now known as StefanG
20:38 < alex> hello
20:43 < owl> hi alex 
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21:52 < netrunner> re
21:53 < Lorini> huhu
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22:03 < netrunner> hi hannes_ 
22:03 < netrunner> ui, mit ipv6
22:36 < netrunner> n8
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23:09 < mnemoc> hi
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23:11 < jsaw> hi
23:11 < mnemoc> hi jsaw 
23:11 < jsaw> hi mnemoc 
23:13 < owl> hi jsaw , mnemoc 
23:13 < owl> *yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn*
23:13 < jsaw> hi owl 
23:13 < jsaw> *mumble*
23:14 < owl> what are you mubmling?
23:14 < jsaw> (Freeing unused kernel ... and then nothing)
23:14 < jsaw> (new bootdisk)
23:18 < demian> hi
23:18 < owl> hi demian 
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23:35 < owl> hi MadTux !
23:36 < demian> father
23:37 < MadTux> owlita. 
23:37 < MadTux> debian
23:37 < MadTux> !
23:37 < MadTux> demian, query
23:37 < owl> debian? 
23:37 < mnemoc> =D
23:37 < MadTux> owl, demian, debian same thing
23:37 < MadTux> hi Alejandro
23:37 < owl> *g* 
23:37 < jsaw> hey MadTux 
23:37 < MadTux> owl, Wie gehts ?
23:38 < MadTux> hallo jsaw
23:38 < MadTux> fsck i have been quite busy..
23:38 < jsaw> hi de[bm]ian :[()]
23:38 < demian> jsaw
23:38 < owl> MadTux: hm. not so well. thx. i'm tired and still downloading slackware-10.0 for the next 2 hours
23:39 < owl> and how are you? hopefully better?
23:39 < MadTux> NOTICE: /me will give a rock linux talk in a congress in brazil on October
23:39 < MadTux> owl, slackware is for newbies... u are much more than that
23:39 < MadTux> i'm doing good but tired
23:39 < owl> nope. dont think so
23:40 < jsaw> me started with slack during the 1.3.sth days
23:41 < MadTux> jsaw, nice
23:41 < MadTux> owl, u are good believe me :)
23:41  * jsaw acks
23:42 < MadTux> mnemoc, can u join me in brazil? please
23:42 < mnemoc> MadTux: i'm _broken_ .... i can't even pay internet at home
23:43 < MadTux> mnemoc, mm.. I'm sorry to hear this.
23:43 < mnemoc> me too :\
23:43 < MadTux> damn it why can't u send me an email "Mike cash is low help me get some contracts"
23:44 < demian> MadTux: slack for newbies :(  i started with that shit
23:44 < mnemoc> i'm trying to get my career
23:44 < MadTux> demian, well do u remeber who took u out of it?
23:46 < owl> MadTux: hm. i'm working on erebos, but i'm not good. and: why should i not use slack, when i like it?
23:46 < demian> father
23:47 < MadTux> owl, sure go ahead.. i just think u deserve better :)
23:48 < owl> why?
23:48 < owl> i will stop using so much my computer. i don't need it
23:48 < MadTux> owl, well horses might need it?
23:48 < owl> hoeh?
23:49 < jsaw> wife seems to have "sudden deafness" -> me off, cu
23:49 < MadTux> well i must go, i will sleep today
23:49 < owl> bye jsaw 
23:49 < owl> bye MadTux 
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23:49 < demian> bye
23:50 < demian> keep rocking
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