--- Log opened Thu Jul 01 00:00:18 2004
00:23  * fake just wasted 4 cds...
00:39 < fake> I GOT IT WORKING!
00:39 < rxr> what?
00:39  * fake endorphine flush
00:39 < fake> rxr: i use matroxset to mirror /dev/fb/0 on /dev/fb/1
00:39 < fake> rxr: then i use maven-prog to re-code hue, saturation adn other stuff in the maven (tvout) chip
00:40 < fake> rxr: and add the fb device as second device in Xfree
00:40 < rxr> with what driver, fbdev?
00:40 < fake> rxr: yes
00:40 < rxr> interesting
00:41 < fake> pretty hackish, but it seems to work more reliable than other solutions...
00:42 < fake> /leave #directfb *muahahaha*
00:47 < Lorini> n8 everybody
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02:04 < fake> oh great
02:04 < fake> my tv even does 1152x768 but NOT 768x576 !
02:04 < fake> argh!
03:00 < rolla> re
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03:36 < fake> vdr: ./PLUGINS/lib/libvdr-softdevice.so.1.3.11: undefined symbol: strlcpy
03:36 < fake> o_O
03:36 < rolla> fake: 
03:39 < rolla> but it is computer hardware
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09:56 < daja77> moin
09:59 < dsoul> hi daja77 :)
10:00 < daja77> i dsoul 
10:00 < daja77> +h
10:02 < dsoul> :>
10:31 < dsoul> somone knows why Emerge-Pkg -dep is fscked?:>
10:32 -!- valentin_ is now known as valentin
10:37 < rxr> dsoul: yes, because our generated dependencies are fscked - they include too much
10:43 < netrunner> dsoul: this is currently being worked on. 
10:45 < daja77> yep the holy war is in progress
10:46 < rxr> daja77: no - clifford just wants rock again for him alone
10:46  * netrunner does not think this is funny.
10:46 < daja77> I haven't said it is funny
10:47 < dsoul> next fight about who has bigger?
10:48 < daja77> no
10:50 < netrunner> what actually comes to my mind: couldn't be submaster be replaced with a public writable svn, that get's reference-built at certain points and acceptable changes then merged into the real svn?
10:51 < netrunner> as I have no prior experience with version control systems, and currently have two projects running, one using submaster and one where I have direct svn_ssh acess, 
10:51 < netrunner> the direct svn access seems easier. only thing missing is the feature of the wip patches.
10:55 < Lorini> moin
10:56 < rxr> netrunner: this feature is called branches
10:56 < netrunner> moin Lorini 
10:57 < dsoul> hi Lorini 
10:57 < Lorini> hi netrunner, dsoul
11:11 < daja77> rxr: yep that's what I thought too
11:14 < netrunner> rxr: can you restrict write access based on branches?
11:15 < daja77> yes
11:28 < rxr> netrunner: sure - per file
11:28 < rxr> even
11:29  * rxr shortly showering
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11:42 < TxD> good morning @ all
11:42 < dsoul> hi TxD :)
11:48 < esden> good morning everyone!
11:50 < esden> I have to admit that I really like the intel c compiler ;)
11:56 < dsoul> hi esden :)
12:30 < esden> uh ho ... mono 1.0 is out ...
12:30  * esden is still asking himself what it is ... and what that .net stuff is supposed to be or do
12:37 < esden> ok ... a build environment based on C# ... *sigh*
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12:49 < blindy> hi
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12:54 < blindy> esden: succesfully delivered the blinkenLEDs?
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13:24 < netrunner> rxr's short shower takes long ;)
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14:15 < Lorini> re :)
14:17 < daja77> wb
14:27 < dsoul> hi Lorini :)
14:28 < Lorini> :)
14:53 < rxr> netrunner: /me was away after the short shower ;-) -> @fh ...
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15:23 < rolla> re
15:24 < dsoul> hi rolla :)
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15:24 < _NULL_> hi
15:25 < daja77> hi _NULL_ 
15:25 < _NULL_> hi daja77 
15:26 < dsoul> hi owl :)
15:26 < _NULL_> hi dsoul 
15:27 < rolla> owl
15:27 < _NULL_> hi rolla ! how are you?
15:30 < hannes_> hi
15:31 < daja77> hi hannes_ 
15:31 < dsoul> hi hannes_ :)
15:31 < _NULL_> hi hannes_ 
16:08 < netrunner> hi hannes
16:10 < mnemoc> moin
16:11 < netrunner> hi mnemoc 
16:11 < dsoul> hi mnemoc :)
16:13 < mnemoc> hi netrunner, dsoul
16:16 < dsoul> mnemoc can you update rsbac?
16:16 < rxr> hi  mnemoc and all
16:16 < mnemoc> dsoul: i guess so ;) .... is it urgent or it can wait for saturday?
16:18 < dsoul> mnemoc it can wait, its only minor security fix ;)
16:19 < mnemoc> echo "[rsbac] security update" >> TODO
16:20 < dsoul> :]
16:20 < mnemoc> :>
17:09 < rxr> hm - should I apply the apache security update in trunk or submaster ... ;-)?#
17:09 < mnemoc> submaster, _please_ :p
17:09 < mnemoc> it can create regressions
17:10 < rxr> and what do you really think? ;-)
17:11 < mnemoc> i think the update is safe, but it _can_ break something 
17:12 < mnemoc> we need to test one or two generic builds before applying it to the devel tree
17:12 < rxr> mnemoc: NAH! reference builds
17:13 < rxr> 3 or 4 at least, and on all platforms
17:13 < rxr> mnemoc: can you call praenti so he can warm up his alpha?
17:13 < mnemoc> sure
17:19 < rxr> it is in trunk now
17:27 < daja77> *sigh* this is really a war place
17:28 < mnemoc> hi daja77 
17:28 < daja77> hi mnemoc 
17:29 < netrunner> arg, building with the make check thing was a bad idea.
17:29 < mnemoc> i think we should `make check | true`
17:30 < mnemoc> it always fails because of something
17:30 < mnemoc> but the output is good for debuging later
17:31 < netrunner> i think it is related to stage 1. 
17:32 < daja77> speaking of debuggin I should find out why gnome2.6 stuff which builds in 2.1 does not in 2.0.2
17:32 < rxr> daja77: you merged gnome26 into your 20 working copy?
17:32 < daja77> yep
17:33 < daja77> cos I don't want to download all the old junk again
17:33 < daja77> most of it did build in 2.1
17:33 < daja77> and they few broken ones I do not care about
17:34 < rxr> maybe x11/shared-mime-data is missing ...
17:34 < daja77> this breaks gtk+ package too?
17:37 < daja77> this is odd
17:37 < daja77> gtk+ fails cos it doesn't find glib with prefix=/usr
17:40 < daja77> it is even more odd that it fails with this message before the package is untar'ed
17:41 < rxr> this is a sanity check - I guess your ROCK_CFG_GNOME26_PREFIX (--typos) is not merged properly or so
17:41 < daja77> ah checking config
17:42 < daja77> export ROCKCFG_PKG_GNOME26_CORE_PREFIX='opt/gnome26'
17:43 < daja77> hm should be ok
17:54 < daja77> oh apache has a security release
17:55 < rxr> daja77: yes - this is what you considered war what we have been speakking about some minutes ago
17:55 < rxr> cu later
17:55 < daja77> i speak of this ranting and flaming which is goin on
17:56  * daja77 off too
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18:45 < fake> mornin
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19:02 < _NULL_> hi fake 
19:03 < mnemoc> mv _NULL_ owl
19:04 < _NULL_> permission denied
19:04 < fake> cp _NULL_ ~/owl
19:04 < fake> ;P
19:04 < fake> chroot ~/ ./owl
19:05 < mnemoc> :p
19:05 < _NULL_> *kick*
19:08 < _NULL_> someone wants a "magen-darm-grippe" && a normal flue? i have one, good cultivated
19:08 < _NULL_> for free!
19:08 < _NULL_> just today and now
19:09 < mnemoc> shipping taks too long ;)
19:09 < _NULL_> hm. crap :(
19:11 < fake> my amavis would drop it...
19:11 < fake> modprobe: FATAL: Module /dev/pts0 not found.
19:11 < fake> last message repeated 14 times
19:11 < fake> damnit!
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19:18 < fake> oh, c'mon...
19:18 < fake> root@cinema:/usr/src/rock-src# ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -dep python
19:18 < fake> [ 13 lines of packages, including php, mozilla, gnome...] will be built.
19:18 < fake> this is sooo useless
19:19 < dsoul> this is fscked :]
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19:23 < mnemoc> fake: rxr is trying to improve dependencies detection
19:25 < fake> mnemoc: i am more on the clifford side of this question ;)
19:25 < mnemoc> i hope to have time on the weekend to re-read the whole thread
19:26 < mnemoc> bbl
19:48 < th_> does anyone know alternatives for that crappy isc dhcpd?
19:49 < _NULL_> hi th_ 
19:49 < th_> hi _NULL_ 
19:50 < Lorini> reh
20:01 < fake> hi Lorini
20:05 < SMP> 250MB Gnome 2.6.2 packages installed (and counting) just to get gtk-sharp-1.0 built
20:06 < fake> SMP: Emerge-Pkg ?
20:06 < SMP> no, by hand - with a seperate prefix
20:07 < SMP> wonder if I'll have to build mozilla do get gtkmozembed-sharp ;>
20:07 < fake> you are soooo evil
20:08 < SMP> I want my own browser written in C# ;>
20:08 < fake> HTML/SMP
20:09 < SMP> pardon?
20:10 < fake> well, isn't it common to add specific extensions to every new browser?
20:10 < SMP> that's actually the first time I see an advantage in having /opt/gnome* instead of having it installed in /usr
20:11 < SMP> - that way I can make the old stuff completely invisible by removing if from PATH and PKG_CONFIG_PATH
20:11  * fake Jefferson Airplane - White Rabbit
20:12 < SMP> fake: hmm
20:12 < fake> SMP: you could add streamlined rendering instructions to the HTML standaed
20:12 < SMP> fake: embedding .NET assemblies into the browser is something I'd like to see
20:12 < SMP> fake: it works with IE ;>
20:13 < SMP> but Mono doesn't have all the security framework ;(
20:13  * fake better shuts up 
20:14 < SMP> come on, that's really cool
20:14 < SMP> like Java WebStart - but instead it works ;>
20:14 < fake> ;P
20:15 < fake> Java WebStart is just pushing signed .jar's around
20:16 < SMP> dependency hell .. libgnomeui needs gnome-keyring, yeah right
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20:17 < fake> *lol*
20:17 < _NULL_> hrm. someone has poroblems with x.org-xserver && nvidia?
20:18 < fake> damn, i forgot to crossompile an editor
20:18 < SMP> :->>
20:18 < fake> not even ed *sigh*
20:18 < fake> and writing sed expressions without a backspace key is ... fun
20:19 < SMP> fake: ^H ?
20:19 < fake> SMP: no-go
20:19 < SMP> do you have stty ?
20:19 < fake> uhm
20:20 < fake> yes!
20:20 < fake> my rescue!
20:20 < fake> stty erase ^H
20:21  * fake schmatzes SMP
20:21 < SMP> you're ... welcome, err
20:22 < fake> ;)
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20:26 < netrunner> wtf?   Qt must first be configured using the "configure" script.
20:28 < fake> oh great
20:28 < netrunner> fake: /me testing livecd build with minimal-desktop pkgsel
20:28 < fake> now i;ve got a shell @9600 on /dev/console
20:29 < fake> netrunner: the package selection is net intended to be altered... yet
20:29 < fake> but when i try to log in, nothing happens, just a new login: line appears
20:29 < fake> Maintenance Console:
20:29 < fake> eva login: root
20:29 < fake> Maintenance Console:
20:29 < fake> eva login:
20:29 < rxr> re
20:29 < fake> re rxr
20:30 < netrunner> fake: the error I got is not related to package selection.
20:30 < fake> netrunner: so, it's not my fault?
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20:33 < netrunner> fake: no. it's simply weird, as I posted.
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20:38 < fake> a loyal bug. good. *g*
20:45  * fake added -l /sbin/sulogin ...
20:47 < fake> damn, forgot to rename it... argh!
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21:05 < squeez> helo@all
21:05 < daja77> hm this pango configure is funny
21:05 < daja77> configure:3451: g++-3 -c -g -O2  conftest.cc >&5
21:05 < daja77> conftest.cc: In function `int main()':
21:05 < daja77> conftest.cc:15: `exit' undeclared (first use this function)
21:05 < daja77> conftest.cc:15: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each
21:05 < daja77>    function it appears in.)
21:05 < fake> hi squeez
21:05 < daja77> hi squeez 
21:06 < daja77> this must be a bad joke
21:08 < fake> daja77: i'm not sure wether exit() is good c++...
21:09 < daja77> anyway pango does not find glib.h
21:09 < daja77> which is build of course
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21:10 < daja77> perhaps it is not looking in /opt/gnome26/include/glib-2.0/glib.h ...
21:13 < fake> daja77: pkgconfig should tell it
21:14 < fake> bash: ping: command not found
21:14 < fake> outch
21:14 < daja77> yep that was my guess now, will rebuild it
21:16 < fake> oh great. no telnet, no netcat, no ssh, not even ping
21:16 < fake> no ftp
21:17 < fake> and.. no zmodem
21:17 < fake> this is going to be fun
21:17 < daja77> sounds pretty useless :>
21:18 < fake> this is our rescue disk if crossbuilt
21:22 < mnemoc> rehi
21:23  * mnemoc is convinced rock's cross-ability need to be rethought
21:24 < fake> mnemoc: ack
21:25 < daja77> yep
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21:26 < esden> hi ho everyone
21:26 < daja77> hi esden
21:27 < mnemoc> hi esdentem
21:28 < fake> hi esden!
21:28 < fake> hm...
21:28 < daja77> esden!
21:28 < fake> it's pretty hard to get an lrz on it, with no editor...
21:28 < Lorini> hi esden
21:29  * fake writes a minimalistic telnet 
21:30 < mnemoc> fake: port bootdisk to uclibc/busybox :p
21:30 < daja77> urgs
21:30 < fake> wait a second - doesnt kiss have a lrz/zmodem like mode?
21:31 < fake> no :(
21:34 < mnemoc> fake: iirc bootdisk has wget
21:34 < fake> mnemoc: oh my, am i blind
21:34 < fake> i suspected it wasn't crossbuilt, too
21:35 < fake> (usually, bootdisk has telnet and ftp, too)
21:35 < mnemoc> is it there?
21:35 < mnemoc> :(
21:35 < fake> yes!
21:35 < fake> rc httpd start ;)
21:35 < mnemoc> yes what?
21:35 < fake> it's there
21:35 < mnemoc> =D
21:36 < fake> i owe you one ;)
21:36  * mnemoc plays music for a dance of joy
21:36 < daja77> music, nice idea
21:37 < fake> o_O
21:37 < fake> it even has curl
21:37 < fake> great
21:37 < fake> so i can suck my ldap dry
21:37 < mnemoc> bootdisk has curl?
21:37 < mnemoc> minimalism has been redefined :\
21:37 < fake> seems so
21:37  * fake Apoptygma Berzerk - Bitch
21:38 < SMP> mnemoc: lol ;)
21:39 < daja77> ;)
21:40 < fake> it's only 80 k
21:40 < fake> whilst wget is 190k
21:40 < mnemoc> uhm
21:40 < fake> but libcurl is 190 K, too ;)
21:42 < mnemoc> however, both are god damn fat
21:43 < esden> fake: why are you writing a telnet replacement?
21:44 < esden> when I remember correctly clifford wrote such a thing some time ago ... as hy tryed porting rock to a I mac or so on 16C3
21:44 < fake> esden: a telnet replacement as in "accept, write all to a file, quit"
21:45 < fake> esden: but now i can even choose between curl and wget ;)
21:45 < esden> ahh ok ...
21:45 < th_> fake: that sounds like a in.telnetd replacement
21:45 < daja77> this damn gnoem crap
21:47 < fake> th_: don't be rude ;)
21:47 < th_> ;]
22:14 < netrunner> for some reason it seams that qt.conf does not get evaluated.
22:16 < mnemoc> package name? target specific config script?
22:16 < netrunner> hm, it get's read, just the custmain does not work
22:16 < netrunner> package/kde/qt/qt.conf ... livecd
22:17 < netrunner> livecd just runs pkgloop, which should do the normal magic
22:17 < mnemoc> pkg_qt.conf on livecd dir?
22:18 < mnemoc> nope
22:19 < mnemoc> are you really sure qt_main it's not been executed?
22:21 < fake> no
22:21 < fake> i would'nt have used kde, if i'd have had to touch it ;)
22:22 < netrunner> it says I should run configure before running make ...
22:22 < netrunner> hm. ...
22:22 < netrunner> a yes it is executed, the configure gets an option it does not understand
22:22 < netrunner> XRender support cannot be enabled due to functionality tests! Turn on verbose messaging (-v) to ./configure to see the final report.
22:26 < mnemoc> functionality tests?
22:34 < netrunner> hmok. it does not find XRender.h
22:35 < netrunner> I shouldn't have trusted in cliffords priority/dependency mix, it just does not work for cluster build.
22:35 < daja77> could you write this to ml please
22:36 < netrunner> hm. no.
22:36 < daja77> why
22:36 < netrunner> there is no xfree86 in config/bla/packages.
22:36 < netrunner> it's not the dependencies
22:36 < mnemoc> :)
22:37 < netrunner> huh, somehow my config got quirled. all settings are back to default 
22:37 < daja77> hm that's why blindy had too iirc
22:38  * mnemoc is every day happyer with staying on 2.0 :p
22:39  * daja77 unhappy about 2.0 atm, but I guess it is my fault
22:42 < netrunner> ah. added 'X xorg*' and restarted the master, now it has immediately scheduled xorg :)
22:43  * mnemoc kicks netrunner 
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23:14 < fake> oh great
23:14 < fake> eva:/usr/src# svn co svn://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk/
23:14 < fake> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
23:14 < fake> eva:/usr/src# gdb core
23:14 < fake> bash: gdb: command not found
23:14 < fake> eva:/usr/src#
23:16 < jsaw> re
23:16 < fake> hi jsaw
23:16 < jsaw> hi fake 
23:16 < jsaw> fake: nice
23:16 < esden> fake: shit happens ;)
23:17 < fake> *nodnod*
23:17 < fake> static subversion client is for sparc32, though
23:17 < fake> i could have expected it.
23:20 < fake> svn://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de is b0rken, afaics
23:20 < esden> oh ... once more ... shit happens ;)
23:20 < Vroum> :p
23:20 < esden> fake: you need 64? right?
23:21 < fake> esden: yes
23:21 < esden> humm ... how far are you with the port?
23:21 < fake> i'll now just dump a revision on my peecee and copy it over
23:22 < fake> esden: the machine now runs this ultraminimalistic rescue crossbuild (with curl)
23:22 < esden> ohh nice ... so it is booting now ... and you do not have to fight with debian
23:22 < esden> that sounds nice
23:22 < daja77> hehe
23:23 < esden> daja77: ? ... what are you loughing?
23:23 < esden> I always have the feelisg you want to say something
23:23 < esden> but I only see you smile ;)
23:23 < jsaw> (debian comment I guess)
23:23 < dsoul> :>
23:23 < daja77> lol yeah dunno why
23:23 < daja77> jsaw: jupp
23:23 < esden> does anyone want a risling?
23:23 < daja77> a what?
23:24 < esden> risling wine
23:24 < jsaw> riesling
23:24 < esden> riesling I mean
23:24 < daja77> ah no thx
23:24 < esden> but fake for sure!
23:24 < esden> am I right?
23:24  * daja77 got a full bottle of tullamore dew here
23:25 < esden> humm ... and still not open? tztztz
23:25 < daja77> hehe well I am not polish
23:25  * daja77 hides
23:25 < jsaw> daja77's got an empty one standing right next to the full one...
23:26 < daja77> the empty one is from another brand ...
23:27  * fake wants riesling
23:28 < daja77> *gg*
23:28  * jsaw wants glenmorangie (18)
23:29 < rxr> hi jsaw 
23:29 < jsaw> hi rxr 
23:29 < daja77> jsaw: hm nice idea for next meeting
23:29 < esden> jsaw: I do not know that one ... how does it taste?
23:29 < daja77> esden: we'll figure out
23:30 < esden> kk ;)
23:30 < jsaw> it's a very astonishing one, if you close the eyes u feel like standing in a field of flowers.
23:30 < jsaw> bright sun
23:30 < jsaw> the grass is green
23:30 < jsaw> ...
23:30 < esden> sounds nice!
23:30 < daja77> hehe have to check out of I react allergic too while drinking ^^
23:31 < esden> hi rxr sbtw ;)
23:31 < jsaw> daja77: :)))
23:34  * fake won't drink that
23:34 < SMP> oh great, gtk-2.4 dumps core all over
23:35 < jsaw> http://whisky.vangeest.nl/bottle.php?id=148&selection=single&sorting=
23:35 < SMP> 'Xlib: unexpected async reply'
23:35 < fake> SMP: *feeltheforcehandmove* .NET is not the solution
23:35 < daja77> SMP: nice to hear that >_<
23:35 < daja77> hehe
23:37 < SMP> 410MB for Mono 1.0 with gtk-sharp and the whole shebang incl. all Gtk / Gnome deps btw.
23:39 < fake> SMP: would make for a nice livecd...
23:41 < rxr> SMP: must be local link mismatch or so - gtk+-2.4 and -2.6 work here ... :-(
23:41 < rxr> rehi esden 
23:41 < rxr> nice to see you around more often these days ...
23:41  * fake loves mkpkg
23:42 < daja77> rxr: i restarted the whole thing, this gnome26 merging during build was not so good :/
23:42 < rxr> daja77: I hope this was not my idea
23:43  * rxr preemptively hides in some cornder 
23:44 < rxr> netrunner: if you have some lazy minutes you could take a look at your pet project: nx does not compile with gcc34 ;-)
23:44  * rxr off into bed soon
23:44 < fake> hasn't the graphical config stuff of nx been made OSS on lxtag?
23:45 < rxr> fake: they claim to upload it "soon"
23:45 < fake> rxr: *lol*
23:45 < rxr> fake: but since when do _you_ need graphic ;-)?
23:45 < fake> maybe for linuxworld ;)
23:46 < fake> rxr: to get all that xterms managed ;)
23:46 < fake> boy, this sucks. the tar 1.13.94 with dietlibc works great on the sparc64, with no compression
23:47 < rxr> yeah - I meyn graphical config ;-)
23:47 < daja77> rxr: no it was not your idea
23:47 < fake> rxr: the nx config is more than evil
23:47 < rxr> fake: so it matches quite well with you ;-)
23:47 < rxr> daja77: puh - though I get s s slapped again
23:47 < SMP> $ pkg-config --modversion gtk+-2.0
23:47 < SMP> 2.4.3
23:47 < daja77> and n8 rxr ;)
23:47 < SMP> hmm- gtk 2.6?
23:48 < fake> rxr: hehe
23:48 < daja77> rxr: nope i just wanted to save download tiem and messed things up
23:48 < esden> rofl ... lammbock is a nice film ... /me falling from his chair loughing
23:48 < rxr> SMP: ah of course I meant 2.2 and 2.4 - mixed it with gnome versioning ...
23:49 < rxr> hm - nomachine.com dead?
23:50 < SMP> gee, what a pile of crap
23:50 < mnemoc> mono or gtk?
23:51 < rxr> or nx or nomachine.com ;-)?
23:51 < SMP> mnemoc: I'll let you know when I find out ;)
23:51 < mnemoc> ok =)
23:53 < fake> nx will be integrated into kde
23:53 < fake> http://desktop.kdenews.org/strategy.html
23:53 < SMP> hmm. libORBit-imodule uses an old libIDL which uses an old libglib
23:54  * SMP building new libIDL and rebuilding ORBit
23:54 < SMP> ( *sigh* )
23:55 < daja77> have fun *eg*
23:55 < SMP> whah
23:55  * daja77 hides
23:55 < SMP> KERP
23:55 < SMP> who the fuck needs _another_ useless Opensource ERP hack
23:58 < daja77> dunno
23:58 < mnemoc> don't forget zerp
23:59  * fake brb, fetching hannes_
--- Log closed Fri Jul 02 00:00:35 2004