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00:36  * daja77 hopes never ending in gnome hell after death
00:36 < daja77> n8 you all
00:39 < A-Tui> bye daja77
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01:25 < mnemoc> there is any webmail with threading support?
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04:33 < fake> re
04:34 < hannes_> hi fake 
05:27 < jsaw> re
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07:50 < fake> new nvidia drivers for linux
07:50 < fake> get them while they're hot ;)
07:51 < hannes_> my tar burned his hands while touching it =)
07:52 < fake> tar?
07:52 < fake> it's an executable installer ;)
07:53 < hannes_> i only wanted to make a joke
07:53  * hannes_ havent downloaded yet
07:54 < hannes_> just reading the manuals
07:54  * fake too
07:54 < hannes_> suse has an extra installer...
07:55 < hannes_> for people, who just cannot handle executables
07:55 < fake> ldconfig
07:55 < fake> ;)
07:55 < hannes_> *rofl*
07:57 < hannes_> fake's ldconfig paranoia - drollic
07:58 < hannes_> drollic?
07:59 < fake> frolic
08:00 < hannes_> fake: you know-it-all
08:29 < fake> ;P
08:41 < hannes_> n9
08:47 < daja77> moin
09:01 < fake> argh!
09:01 < fake> moin, daja
09:01 < fake> or, good evening, in my case
09:02 < daja77> *ggg*
09:02 < daja77> hi fake 
09:04 < fake> why does my gtk+ build's libtool thing glib is installed in /lib ?
09:04 < fake> well, it was installed there, mea culpa, but i rebuilt into /opt/gnome26...
09:05 < fake> argh
09:05 < fake>  /lib/pkgconfig
09:11 < fake> ARGH!
09:11 < fake> still the same...
09:12 < daja77> fake: to be honest I hate this stuff, it is the same here, lib installed and not found by that damn pkg-config
09:12 < daja77> this tool must have been invented in hell
09:12 < fake> daja77: . /etc/profile
09:13 < fake> then PKG_CONFIG_PATH is re-evaluated
09:13 < daja77> How should I do that in a rock build
09:13 < fake> oh, yes
09:13 < fake> that's hard ;)
09:13 < daja77> ;)
09:18 < fake> oh cool, i built qt with debug symbols
09:18 < fake> as well as SDL
09:19  * daja77 'll try running a qt app on macosX this week
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09:24 < fake> it won't work
09:24 < fake> damn it
09:24 < fake> is this pkgconfig using some kind of cache?
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09:48 < rxr> moin
09:49 < rxr> fake: I don't think so
09:51 < daja77> I don't see why pkgconfig is needed at all
09:52 < daja77> I mean what does it what you can't check with autoconf anyway
09:53 < rxr> pkgconfig != auto* crap
09:53 < fake> hum
09:53 < rxr> pkgconfig is a replacement for the various $pkg-config scripts ths return the parameters
09:54 < fake> yes
09:54 < daja77> rxr: I know but autoconf is uinsg pkgconfig to determine if a package is installed
09:54 < rxr> not the worst idea ... just the details such as usual for brain dead Unix and/or C coders ..
09:54  * fake rebuilding pango and atk...
09:54 < fake> damn, i just want to have a look at the new nvidia-settings tool
09:54 < rxr> daja77: this depends auto* crap uses whatever the usre entered in the conifugre.in ...
09:54 < daja77> yep for some strange reason gtkmm has not registered at pkgconfig
09:55 < daja77> rxr: sure, but the gnomers do it the way I described
09:58 < rxr> using pkgconfig is a consistent and clean way - what is the problem with this?
10:01  * fake praying
10:02 < fake> A R G H L ! ! !
10:02 < fake> grep: //lib/libglib-2.0.la: No such file or directory
10:02 < fake> OF COURSE NOT, STUPID!
10:02 < fake> where does he get that idea?
10:03 < fake>  /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc-3  -g -O2 -Wall   -o libpixbufloader-jpeg.la -rpath /opt/gnome26/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders -avoid-version -module  io-jpeg.lo -ljpeg libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.la -L/opt/gnome26/lib -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lm
10:03 < fake> looks perfectly valid to me
10:03 < daja77>  // looks like an empty prefix variable or sth
10:03 < fake> ha!
10:03 < fake> got it
10:03 < fake> libtool --debug
10:03 < fake> found libgmodule.la in /usr/lib, which said it depends on /lib/libglib,
10:03 < fake> perfect.
10:04 < daja77> rxr: none if all packages would be found
10:18 < fake> finally gtk+ built...
10:19 < fake> hehehe
10:19 < fake> if you use the nvidia-settings via X-Forwarding, it will modify the display forwarded to
10:20 < fake> via the NV-CONTROL X Extension *lol*
10:25 < fake> h
10:25 < fake> hm
10:25 < fake> but it doesn't write to xf86config
10:32 < fake> ah
10:33 < fake> it creates .nv-settings-rc
10:33 < fake> and has a -l flag for 'load settings only'
10:33 < fake> for .xinitrc
10:33 < fake> sweet.
11:12 < netrunner> can anybody drop me indiana jones 3? I cannot read those old dd disks any more and wanted to play it in scumm :/
11:13  * netrunner is on an emulator trip. already played nes/genesis stuff half the day
11:14 < daja77> i had to search for the cdrom
11:15 < fake> now that's interesting
11:15 < daja77> have monkey island 1 and 2 on disc
11:15 < fake> there's not 6.x driver from nvidia out for windows yet...
11:15 < daja77> hehe
11:28 < netrunner> daja77: hm, don't make to much action about it :) I have indy4, the monkeys and loom, even full throttle :)
11:31 < daja77> ;)
11:32 < daja77> I don't, I have to work :/
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12:38 < _NULL_> hi 
12:38 < dsoul> hi owl :)
12:38 < _NULL_> hi dsoul .
12:42 < rxr> hi dsoul 
12:44 < dsoul> hi rxr :)
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14:42 < jsaw> <
14:42 < jsaw> *damn laptop keyboard*
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16:34 < esden> hi ho everyone
16:37 < dsoul> hi esden :)
16:42 < esden> ahh someone alive ... amazing ;)
16:42 < dsoul> :P
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18:59 < TxD> moin
19:09 < tcr_> moin
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19:12 < hannes_> hi
19:13 < Lorini> hi hannes_
19:13 < hannes_> hi Lorini 
19:13 < esden> hi hannes_
19:13 < esden> hi Lorini
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19:14 < Lorini> hi esden
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19:15 < hannes_> esden: still happy with your earphones?
19:16 < esden> hannes_: sure ... why?
19:18 < hannes_> esden: not found any bugs?
19:21 < esden> not yet
19:22 < esden> but I will check the px200 and px250 headphones on monday in munich ... so that I am sure that my choice was the right one ... but I have to find a shop that is having them on stock first ... that will be not so easy ...
19:22  * rxr imagining esden debugging the headphones with a screwsriver or so ...
19:22 < rxr> of flyspray?
19:22 < rxr> esden: what headphone do yo have now?
19:25 < esden> sennheiser px100
19:26 < esden> rxr: hehe ;) ... /me already has done it ... the resoldiering the thin headphone wires is a real fun ;)
19:26 < esden> but the ones I currently have do not have bugs for now
19:30 < esden> ok ... I have to leave now
19:32 < rxr> interesting ...
19:32 < rxr> cu esden 
19:32 < hannes_> bye esden 
19:34 < rxr> hi hannes_ 
19:34 < hannes_> rxr: there will be more infos on sparc hardware tomorrow
19:36 < hannes_> hi rxr btw
19:38 < rxr> nice ;-)
19:40 < rxr>  1957  07/03   4k Marcelo Tosatti <m Linux 2.4.27-rc3                          $
19:41 < rxr> so we could have a 2.0.3 soon ... ,-)
19:54 < rolla> re
19:57 < rxr> hi rolla
19:58 < rxr>  1957  07/03   4k Marcelo Tosatti <m Linux 2.4.27-rc3                          $
19:58 < rxr> oops
19:58 < rxr> should be:
19:58 < rxr> 2495 builds total, 569 completed fine, 153 with errors.
19:58 < rxr> ^- trunk:HEAD
20:02 < rxr> why doens't anyone tell my my svnserve is not running since the svn update on my server?
20:09 < rxr> so fixed, and so the mirror downloads, ChangeLog and stat generiation, ...
20:11 < rxr> cool - the rocklinux svn database is still below 100MB - nice
20:26 < daja77> cool
20:26  * daja77 preparing a submaster talk for clug this week atm
20:27 < rxr> submaster - since when are you on the dark side? ,)
20:27 < daja77> subversion sorry
20:27 < daja77> typo#
20:28 < daja77> no I only talk about subversion
20:28 < daja77> rxr: some ideas of submaster are quite nice though
20:29 < rxr> ah - puh ;-)!
20:29 < rxr> well ... - I'll write a full paper one day I have more time again
20:29 < daja77> ;)
20:30 < daja77> and I figured out once more that I live and hate latex at the same time
20:39 < rxr> could someone rebuild net-tools and util-linux to review my gcc-3.4 patches does not break for s.o.?
20:39 < rxr> trunk:HEAD of course
20:49 < daja77> can't atm cos I use dload dir for 2.0.2 build :/
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21:18 < rxr> n8 all
21:19 < daja77> lol svnserver for the subversion book still runs 1.0.3
21:19 < daja77> n8 rxr
21:19 < hannes_> bye n8
21:20 < daja77> n8 hannes_ 
21:20 < Lorini> n8 hannes_
21:21 < daja77> hey Lorini ;)
21:21 < Lorini> huhu daja :)
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23:05 < netrunne1> *yawn*
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23:05  * netrunner between writing for b-thesis and playing nwn ... hard decision.
23:09 < Lorini> sleeping? :)
23:18 < fake> hm, there is an enhanced fork of memtest86 called memtest86+
23:18 < fake> http://www.memtest.org/
23:18 < fake> and, good morning ;)
23:19 < netrunner> moin fake
23:19 < netrunner> that reminds me that I have a livecd build here I wanted to test :)
23:20 < Lorini> moin fake
23:21 < fake> netrunner: do you use qemu / vmware?
23:21 < netrunner> fake: I tried qemu but couldn't persuade it to work 
23:21 < daja77> netrunner: why?
23:22 < netrunner> daja77: dunno, I probably didn't set the drive up correctly. just tried to boot an rockuml_fs.
23:23 < netrunner> daja77: well ... it contained no bootable kernel, so what ;)
23:23 < daja77> ah ... yes
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23:36 < netrunner> does this smart optimization work out of the box or do I need to generate some kind of database?
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