--- Log opened Sat Jul 10 00:00:27 2004
00:01 < StefanG> good idea
00:20 < StefanG> ahh, it works with the smb.conf from my laptop :)
00:25 < fake> memtest86 is cool.
00:28 < StefanG> to test the mem if it is ok?
00:29 < fake> yes.
00:29 < fake> well, to check wether it is ok or not.
00:29 < fake> and obviously, mine isn't
00:30 < fake> 10.592 errors and still counting
00:30 < StefanG> ohh
00:31 < fake> but all above 126 MB
00:31 < fake> on a 128 'riegel'
00:31 < fake> so passing mem=125 to the kernel might help for now
00:31 < fake> it's the last 133MHz SDRAM i have
00:33 < StefanG> not good 
00:35 < fake> oh well. that had to happen ;)
00:37 < fake> BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 0000000007ff0000 (usable)
00:37 < fake> user: 0000000000100000 - 0000000007d00000 (usable)
00:38 < fake> i love this *g*
01:24 < fake> ...
01:34 < Lorini> hi fake
01:42 < fake> hi!
02:25 < fake> anyone awake with basic inline asm knowledge?
02:25 < fake> i need to back up if i remember this right
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02:43 < esden> hi ho everyone
02:44 < esden> me should call himself esden@macosx now ;) ... and I really like it ;)
02:44 < esden> is anyone there?
02:45 < esden> humm ... it seems not te be so ....
02:45  * esden gets something to drink ...
02:47 < esden> ahh that is better ... ;)
02:48 < fake> hi
02:48 < fake> sry again @weekend
02:48 < fake> esden: got a new laptop?
02:49 < esden> not yet ... but soon ... I chat from the laptop of the girlfriend of daniel ... if you remember him ;)
02:50 < fake> of course
02:50 < esden> good ;)
02:50 < fake> the crazy guy that stole my sleeping place @19c3 ;)
02:51 < esden> what? ... really?
02:51 < fake> yes, he had the great idea to sleep horizontally to the desks
02:56 < esden> muahaha ... I will ask him in a moment when he leaves the bathroom ;)
03:03 < esden> ping fake 
03:06 < fake> pong
03:06 < fake> sorry
03:06  * fake reading goom code
03:06 < esden> ahh ok ... 
03:06 < esden> see query
03:10 < esden> ok ... good night fake and *
03:11 < fake> n8!
03:11 < fake> sleep well
03:47 < SMP> hmmm
03:54 < fake> hi smp!
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06:56 < fake> am i still here?
06:56 < fake> huh
06:56 < fake> ah. ok. n8!
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07:48 < De_Elsasser> halli hallo, is there someone?
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09:52 < daja77> moin De_Elsasser 
09:54 < dsoul> hi daja77 :)
09:54 < daja77> hi dsoul 
09:56 < De_Elsasser> good morning
09:56 < dsoul> hi De_Elsasser :)
09:57 < De_Elsasser> why can't I view localhost:631 (cups)
09:58 < daja77> have you started the daemon?
09:58 < De_Elsasser> how must I make?
09:58 < daja77> rc cups start
09:59 < De_Elsasser> mmm
10:02 < De_Elsasser> yes, and now I view some documentation of cups
10:02 < De_Elsasser> ???
10:04 < daja77> http://localhost:631/admin
10:05 < De_Elsasser> viel besser
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10:11 < De_Elsasser> ok, now how can I put the cups getting starting from the begining?
10:13 < daja77> stone - runlevel configuration, just select cups for your current runlevel
10:13 < De_Elsasser> ok
10:15 < De_Elsasser> yes of course...
10:17 < De_Elsasser> now, someone wants walking for me?
10:17 < daja77> I am not good at walking, so I don't think so
10:19 < De_Elsasser> ok, so I must go myself ;)
10:20 < daja77> have fun ;)
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11:49 < netrunner> in a cluster build, completed packages are marked as ERROR, but they write a .log with no error in it.
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13:44 < De_Elsasser>  daja77 here?
13:44 < daja77> yes
13:44 < De_Elsasser> good
13:45 < De_Elsasser> a question: I haven't no midi device?
13:46 < De_Elsasser> or I think...
13:46 < daja77> you just want to play a midi file?
13:46 < De_Elsasser> yes
13:46 < daja77> try timidity
13:47 < De_Elsasser> is not on Rock
13:48 < De_Elsasser> timidity++  ?
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13:57 < daja77> yep
13:57 < De_Elsasser> ok, now he seach timidity.cfg
13:58 < De_Elsasser> search, better
14:07 < daja77> does it work now?
14:08 < De_Elsasser> ok :], I haven't interger midi in my new kernel 2.6.7
14:09 < De_Elsasser> will go and come 
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15:08 < De_Elsasser> wouf
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16:17 < mnemoc> moin
16:17 < dsoul> hi mnemoc :)
16:19 < mnemoc> hi d-soul
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18:18 < gr3sh0k> hi, people
18:18 < dsoul> hi gr3sh0k :)
18:18 < gr3sh0k> someone, maybe, use FidoNet?
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19:59 < rxr> re
19:59 < rxr> moin mnemoc 
19:59 < daja77> hi rxr 
19:59 < th> hi rxr
19:59 < daja77> hi th
20:01 < th> hi daja77 
20:01 < th> just installed from the released binaries of 2.0.1
20:01 < rxr> hi all
20:01 < th> (desktop)
20:02 < th> mozilla is fscked up there
20:02 < rxr> th: oh - in what way ?
20:03 < th> rxr: it totally freezes when striking a key in proxy-settings
20:03 < th> evolution crashes too
20:04 < th> (that one i reported to you some weeks ago)
20:06 < th> rxr: i suppose you aren't using mozilla and did not notice?
20:06 < mnemoc> gtk+ is somehow broken then
20:06 < th> mnemoc: i think so too.
20:07 < th> but i have no idea how to debug that
20:08 < mnemoc> rxr is the guru :)
20:13 < rxr> I do not use the x86 build heavily
20:13 < rxr> the PowerPC ones work fine
20:13 < rxr> even mozilla
20:13 < rxr> does it only crash when altering the proxy settings?
20:15 < th> it does not "crash" it freezes
20:15 < th> and it happens even if i edit the start-page in prefs
20:16 < th> and even when entering a url in the location-text-field
20:16 < rxr> hm - on PowerPC it does not show this behaviour
20:16 < th> in fact it freezes on ANY key-press
20:16 < rxr> my girlfirend uses it all the day (I'm not a fan of this fat and slow app - so I do not use it often ...)
20:17 < th> yea - but it just does not work on x86
20:17 < rxr> does 2.0.0 also show this - or only >= 2.0.1 
20:17  * rxr just installed 2.0.0 (had not new CD on the desk) on a old K6 I use for tests now ...
20:18 < th> rxr: i can't tell you that
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20:18 < th> rxr: but i think SMP told be that 2.0.0-rc1 was "okay"
20:18 < th> s,be,me,
20:18 < rxr> -rc1 to -final was a long way ;-)
20:19 < dsoul> 2.0.3 works fine
20:19 < th> 2.0.3 is released?
20:19 < th> ahhh. it does not "freeze" it just hangs for about 5 minutes
20:19 < SMP> huh
20:19 < dsoul> no, its 2.0-stable trunk
20:20 < th> perhaps that's some kind of network trouble
20:20 < th> well i should set loopback up.
20:20 < SMP> gah
20:21 < th> after that i can try to resolve the "crash" i had in 2.0.1
20:21 < th> s,resolve,reproduce,
20:52 < th> (Gecko:9409): libgnomevfs-CRITICAL **: file gnome-vfs-mime-info.c: line 916 (ge
20:52 < th> t_value_real): assertion `!does_string_contain_caps (mime_type)' failed
20:52 < th> (mozilla crash)
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22:27 < th> rxr: do you mind merging acpid into stable tree? it cant see any problems with it
22:28 < rxr> sure
22:28 < th> thanks
22:32 < rxr> hm - no 
22:32 < th> hmm?
22:32 < rxr> I will not merge it as long as it is in mathieu
22:32 < th> rxr: why?
22:32 < th> rxr: because of the repository naming scheme?
22:33 < rxr> I guess I should not just move it in svn - I guess we need a long discussion on the ml ...
22:33 < rxr> because I just needed to much time locate it
22:33 < rxr> first I looked in base and then x86 - after that I started a find
22:33 < rxr> since my iBook was busy I killed it soon - and though well - then it was recently added
22:33 < rxr> I run svn up
22:34 < rxr> then it still did neither appear in x86 nor base
22:34 < rxr> this sucks
22:34 < th> rxr: you can just ask ls to show you where a package lies.
22:34 < rxr> and when it is in matheu it will also not build in my normal desktop builds - I would need to manually add it
22:34 < rxr> I think all this is majorly odd
22:35 < th> rxr: you are more than a desktop-target maintainer.
22:35 < rxr> th: don't you think this silly hiding game sucks?
22:35 < th> ls -d /usr/src/rock-src/package/*/acpid
22:35 < rxr> yeah - and wait as long as my find for it ...
22:35 < th> i've a cute function for that in my shell
22:36 < th> rubbish
22:36 < rxr> on the local hard disk this only sucks minorly
22:36 < th> you won't wait a second
22:36 < th> function pkginfo() {
22:36 < th>         ( cd /usr/src/rock-src ; ls -d package/*/$1/ )
22:36 < th>     grep '^\[[TVDUMP]\]' /usr/src/rock-src/package/*/$1/$1.desc
22:36 < th> }
22:36 < th> rxr: try this one
22:36 < rxr> th: do you now how annoying it is to locate a package on the Gentoo or debian CVS by guessing the repository name?
22:37 < th> rxr: shouldn't be harder by just using ls
22:37 < rxr> when you browse it using ViewCVS or equivalent you have no browser
22:38 < th> so this is bad luck for our stable tree?
22:38 < th> i can't see the link between the two issues. 1) merging acpid; 2) clearing the repo-diskussion
22:38 < rxr> our repository names just suck majorly - when you show other people even developers rock and it's nice build system people notice this hobby project naming and do not believe there can be real techonology behind such fluff
22:39 < th> but i guess you are trying to force some discussion by not merging
22:39 < rxr> 1) I wont merge poluting names
22:39 < rxr> how silly is that:
22:39 < th> but you already did
22:39 < rxr> - apm in x86
22:39 < rxr> - pmud and pbbuttonsd in powerpc
22:39 < rxr> - acpi in matheu (--typos)
22:39 < rxr> acpid even
22:40 < th> and now you stop merging until the repo-question is through?
22:40 < th> this can take years
22:40 < rxr> ok - I move gcc, glibc and binutils into rene - because I do most work on them ...
22:41 < th> rxr: please give the function i pasted a try. it should help you locate packages
22:41 < rxr> hm - I could move xfree86, gnome and kde, too
22:41 < rxr> well - ok - for gnome we could create a susan or susanne repository ...
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22:41 < MadTux> hello.
22:42 < rxr> hi MadTux 
22:42 < MadTux> hello Rene :)
22:42 < dsoul> hi MadTux :)
22:42 < daja77> hi MadTux 
22:42 < th> rxr: you are not answering my question
22:43 < th> rxr: you should not link 1) and 2)
22:44 < th> rxr: but you could use 1) to revive 2)
22:44 < mnemoc> MadTux! 
22:44 < th> rxr: just find a better repo for acpid
22:59 < rxr> no - I just sent a mail to the list - sorry
22:59 < rxr> as good maintainer - I merge it - although I think it stinks like rotting fish or so ...
23:00 < rxr> but the arguments still stay valied ...
23:01 < th> rxr: you are right, but you should not mix these things up.
23:01 < th> rxr: just restart the discussion on ML
23:01 < rxr> i just mixed them up because I just got remembered about them ....
23:01 < th> rxr: no matter ;)
23:03 < rxr> commit running
23:03 < rxr> done
23:03 < rxr> Committed revision 3554.
23:04 < rxr> oh - damn
23:04 < rxr> no I deployed an over optimized .gem on my K6 ... - damn crap
23:04 < rxr> Illegal instruction (core dumped)
23:05 < th> "inbranches/"?
23:05 < rxr> what?
23:05 < th> the commit mail looks different
23:05 < th> ahh ni
23:05 < th> ahh no
23:06 < th> just split over two lines...
23:06 < mnemoc> over optimized glibc? ;)
23:09 < rxr> no xfree - bad enough if I just wanted to update it to get ssh -X working correctly ...
23:09 < th> is there a way to trigger the same that "xset dpms force off" does when no X is running?
23:10 < th> s,a way,a tool,
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23:12 < MadTux> mm... hello blindy
23:13 < mnemoc> blindy! why are u going back to bavaria?
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23:31 < mnemoc> uhm
23:32 < mnemoc> he got in panic :\
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23:56 < netrunner> rxr: what upstream does qdsl-home have? the pricelist says 512K, the featurelist says 256K ...
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