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09:33 < netrunner> daja77: anybody has to be :) 09:34 < daja77> learn you lazy ass!!!111 09:43 * netrunner fetching https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzkultur/0,1518,308712,00.html 09:57 < netrunner> *lol* 09:57 < netrunner> my gf once vandalised wikipedia because the thought the 'edit' only happens on her pc, and the threw stuff out she didn't want to print :) 09:58 < netrunner> just explained the idea of wikis to her :) 10:00 < dsoul> :P 10:09 < daja77> hehe 10:24 < blindy> that's what my first impression of wikis was 10:24 < blindy> "Who in their right state of mind would allow _everyone_ (literally) to edit his website?" 10:25 < dsoul> :> 10:42 * netrunner found a nice cv-template for latex 10:42 < netrunner> almost looks like the one I have in openoffice 10:43 < owl> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrts 10:43 < owl> moin 10:43 < netrunner> uhu: moin 10:44 < owl> hi netti 10:44 < dsoul> hi owl 10:44 < owl> hi dsoul 10:57 < rxr> moin 10:57 < owl> hi rxr 10:58 < owl> fake: awake? 10:58 < netrunner> owl: muahahah 10:59 < owl> ok, ok... :p 11:02 < blindy> moin owl, rxr 11:02 < owl> hi blindy 11:09 < fake> owl: yes, now i am 11:09 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.45] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:09 * fake has to shift uptime periods... damn exam. 11:09 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.45] has joined #rocklinux 11:11 -!- owl_ [~owl@D70aa.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:11 < owl_> re 11:11 < fake> owl_: hi 11:12 < owl_> fake, hi. which exams? O_o 11:12 -!- nookie [~nookie@M469P028.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 11:12 < owl_> hi nookie 11:12 < owl_> waaaaah. xchat is horrible. *puke* 11:18 < fake> daja77: qemu is borken? 11:19 < fake> (July 10, 2004) QEMU version 0.6.0 11:22 -!- Roman_ [~roman@213.137.0.168] has joined #rocklinux 11:23 < fake> Qemu 0.6.0 changelog: "Initial PowerMac hardware emulation" 11:24 < fake> "vmdk2raw: convert VMware disk images to raw images" 11:24 < fake> sexy! 11:25 < Roman_> Hello, can some one give me a quick start guide on rocklinux, I am a little confused. I want to create a rock linux system (for an embedded system), I downloaded rock-minimal-2.0.0-rev2366-pentium-mmx_cd1.iso (is this the right file?), what do I do with this? do I make a cd and boot from it? Is that how rock linux works? 11:27 < rxr> Roman_: doy ou know the official Handbook 11:27 < rxr> ? 11:27 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/products/rock-handbook/ 11:27 < rxr> most you current want to know is written down in it ... 11:28 < rxr> Roman_: e.g. that you normally download the 1.4MB source tarball and compile it from source and such ... 11:28 < Roman_> ok, hold on, I am just grabbing a copy of the book 11:29 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M231P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:31 < Roman_> rxr: so what is the ISO I downloaded for? 11:36 < rxr> it is a precompiled ROCK Linux - with a minimal package set you can install 11:36 < rxr> it was compiled out of the ROCK Linux sources - using it's powerfull auto-build-syste - by someone else 11:37 < rxr> you can do the same applying your customization - by downloading a source tarball or checout the source via Suversion and then build what you need yourself ... 11:38 < Roman_> right, so with rocklinux, I can get the source tarball and then I get a set of tools that will let me build a distribution, that I can write to a device? Is that correct? 11:38 < fake> qemu does not compile when -march/-mtun > i586 11:39 * blindy --> lunch 11:39 < rxr> Roman_: yes 11:39 < rxr> and please at least cross read the handbook to get the basic information how to do it ,) 11:40 < owl_> blindy, guten hunger 11:40 < rxr> where to get is is written down here: 11:40 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20down.html 11:42 < Roman_> Thanks 12:02 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-2-144.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:02 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-2-144.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 12:02 -!- Netsplit saberhagen.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: togg 12:03 -!- Netsplit saberhagen.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: hannes_ 12:04 -!- Netsplit over, joins: hannes_ 12:05 -!- Netsplit over, joins: togg 12:22 < blindy> back 12:22 -!- dzafez_ [~dzafez@p509278BD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:23 < owl_> wb blindy 12:30 -!- dzafez [~dzafez@pD95F93F6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 12:31 * netrunner giving current trunk a try 12:36 < fake> netrunner: how was your livecd experience? 12:37 < fake> netrunner: CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD is not set explicitely and is not included in the ramdisk, so i guess you weren't satisfied ? 13:05 -!- ringo [ringo78@xs1.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 13:06 -!- ringo is now known as pychotic_ 13:06 < owl_> hi ringo! 13:06 -!- pychotic_ is now known as pychotic 13:06 -!- pychotic is now known as ringo 13:07 < ringo> moin 13:10 < dsoul> hi ringo 13:12 < ringo> hi dsoul :) 13:13 * ringo enjoying midiles :) 13:13 * ringo or maybe midi files ... 14:17 -!- eric [~eric@ANancy-110-1-4-225.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 14:18 < eric> hallo halli 14:18 < daja77> hi de-elsasser ;) 14:19 < eric> I try all console software ;) 14:19 < daja77> have fun 14:19 < daja77> you use irssi now? 14:19 < eric> yep 14:19 < daja77> great 14:19 < daja77> the best irc client i know 14:20 < eric> it can windowed? 14:20 * fake dumping cloop 14:20 < fake> cloop sucks 14:20 < daja77> indeed 14:21 < eric> how? 14:21 -!- eric is now known as De_Elsasser 14:21 < daja77> eric: dunno, shoulde be documented at www.irssi.org 14:21 < De_Elsasser> no I come just 14:21 < daja77> fake: wasn't clifford about to write a replacement? 14:23 < fake> daja77: yes, shadowfs 14:23 < fake> daja77: but thats not a replacement for cloop 14:23 < fake> daja77: it's more like a union mount... 14:23 < fake> daja77: shadowfs will solve the write-only problems ;) 14:23 < daja77> :D 14:23 * blindy is nearly falling asleep 14:37 < netrunner> aaaah 14:37 < netrunner> Found shared files with other packages: 14:37 < netrunner> info/dir: binutils gcc34 14:38 < daja77> O_o 14:39 * netrunner going shopping 14:40 < rxr> read-only you meant ... 14:47 < fake> rxr: ... of course... 14:47 < fake> though write-only memory has it's advantages. 14:47 < fake> ;) 14:47 < blindy> /dev/wom -> /dev/null 14:49 < fake> ah, btw 14:49 < fake> i have a problem with /dev/null not being world-writable after tar-install 15:05 < fake> when adding a patchfile with a pkg_ file in a target 15:06 < fake> and i need to extract it from another package 15:06 < fake> where should i drop it? 15:06 < fake> $archdir seems to be created afterwards... 15:06 < fake> and $base/src is not cleaned up by scripts/Cleanup 15:13 < fake> got it. 15:13 < fake> hook_add prepatch 1 extractfunction 15:13 < fake> then archdir is in place. fine ;) 15:16 -!- Roman_ [~roman@213.137.0.168] has quit [] 15:18 < fake> squashfs looks nice. 15:26 < dzafez_> rxr? 15:26 < dzafez_> yes I'll give the Sparc to good hands for free 15:26 < dzafez_> Rather then trying to find the Monitor and the Keyboard that would cost me 15:27 < fake> what sparc? *g* 15:27 < dzafez_> but I'll not pay anyone to come and pick it up 15:27 < dzafez_> yes sparcstation 15:27 < daja77> where from 15:27 < dzafez_> Mönchengladbach Germany 15:27 < fake> sparcstation what? 5? 10? 20 ? 15:28 < dzafez_> Modell ID 47 IPC Sparcstation 15:28 < fake> IPC ?! 15:28 < dzafez_> let me try to find one on ebay 15:28 < fake> that's not even worth the shipping costs ;) 15:29 < dzafez_> but if you are around ... 15:29 < fake> it has the size of a shoe box, right? 15:29 < fake> approximately 15:29 < dzafez_> yes well kinda like it 15:29 < fake> yeah, the color-version of the IPX 15:30 < fake> iirc 15:33 < dzafez_> https://www.obsolyte.com/sun_ipc/ipc.jpg 15:34 < dzafez_> equivalent in raw CPU speed to a 486 at 50Mhz. 15:34 < dzafez_> equivalent in raw CPU speed to a 486 at 50Mhz. 15:34 < dzafez_> https://www.obsolyte.com/sun_ipc/old_index.html 15:37 < dzafez_> https://www.obsolyte.com/sun_ipc/ while I read this, I start to want to use it again. But how in hell can I rmove the Floppy I inserted? Anyway, I don't have a Monitor... 15:37 < dzafez_> I have to go again c u later 15:37 < blindy> eject 15:38 < dzafez_> haha need a keyboard for this! 15:38 < blindy> works even at the OBP 15:38 < blindy> no 15:38 < dzafez_> ? 15:38 < blindy> a serial cable will do 15:38 < dzafez_> but I need a OS on it? 15:38 < blindy> OBP == Open Boot PROM 15:38 < owl_> serial cable. *puke* 15:38 < blindy> also, there's an emergency hole at the floppy drive 15:39 < dzafez_> won't it try to boot from the disk first?? 15:39 < blindy> like on most CD-Roms 15:39 < blindy> dzafez_: well, you need to be fast :) 15:39 < dzafez_> cant see anything without a monitor 15:39 < blindy> owl_: I install all Sun Fire 480 and 4800 with a serial cable here 15:39 < blindy> dzafez_: SERIAL CABLE!!! 15:40 < owl_> blindy, ok O_o 15:40 < dzafez_> well forget it I'll not spend a minute for it. Thank you anyway 15:41 < owl_> why? 15:42 < dzafez_> "equivalent in raw CPU speed to a 486 at 50Mhz. " isn't that enough? I mean it might be interesting, but tons of things are interesting and I'd rather bother one of my Customers to borrow me a ARM - board so I can toy arount with that before I spend time with this old baby 15:43 < dzafez_> I'd love to have ROCKLinux running on a ARM-PC not bigger then a cigarette box 15:44 < owl_> hm. k. 15:44 < dzafez_> ;-) 15:45 < dzafez_> c u later, I'll have to leave and get going, I'll visit a Customer today 15:45 < dzafez_> not for that, though ... 15:45 < dzafez_> wrong customer 15:45 < owl_> bye dzafez_ 15:46 -!- dzafez_ [~dzafez@p509278BD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Verlassend"] 15:51 < fake> dzafez_: it;s running on my iPod ... 15:51 < fake> ... kind of. 15:52 < fake> squashfs has better compression than cloop 15:57 * blindy off 15:57 < blindy> have a nice weekend! 15:59 < owl_> bye blindy 15:59 < rxr> fake: what is with your iPod ? 15:59 -!- ringo [ringo78@xs1.xs4all.nl] has quit ["cul"] 16:02 < fake> rxr: i've got rock on it? 16:05 < rxr> where is the source? 16:08 < daja77> where are the screenshots :D 16:10 -!- BOS [~BoS@dialin-212-144-018-137.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:11 < fake> rxr: source? 16:11 < fake> rxr: ipod-linux.sf.net 16:12 < fake> for the kernel 16:12 < fake> and arm crossbuild for rock? 16:12 < fake> arm7tvid (or so) is the opt. 16:12 < fake> *tvdi 16:28 < jsaw> re 16:28 -!- BOS_ [~BoS@dialin-212-144-087-214.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 16:29 < mnemoc> moin 16:31 < owl_> hi mnemoc 16:32 < rxr> moin mnemoc 16:32 < dsoul> hi mnemoc :) 16:33 < jsaw> fake: are u subscribed to dietlibc ml? 16:33 < mnemoc> hi owllie, rxr and dsoul 16:37 < daja77> hi mnemoc & jsaw 16:38 < jsaw> hello! 16:39 < rxr> hi jsaw 16:40 < jsaw> now at 944/91 of 1299 builds, fake said over 150 failed? 16:41 < jsaw> hmmm... 16:42 * netrunner crashed after 5 packages ;) 16:44 < jsaw> netrunner: ? 16:45 < jsaw> ah, i see. 16:45 < jsaw> netrunner: forget the stage-0 errors 16:45 < jsaw> *just ignore* 16:46 < jsaw> (they're due to the flistroot changes for stage 0) 16:48 < netrunner> so well then I switch of the pedantic mode. 16:51 < mnemoc> hi daja77, netrunner 16:51 < netrunner> hi mnemoc 16:51 < mnemoc> pedantic mode? 16:51 * netrunner 's melting 16:51 < netrunner> paranoia check 16:51 * mnemoc 's freezing 16:51 < netrunner> it's about 30°C here. 16:52 -!- demian [allyourbas@pD9E0A531.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:52 < demian> hi 16:52 < rxr> mnemoc: /me is freezing, too 16:53 < fake> jsaw: no ? 16:53 < rxr> < 20° here ... 16:53 < owl_> hi demian 16:53 < owl_> ~ 30 ?C here 16:53 < demian> here is hot! 16:53 < demian> always.. 16:53 < demian> hi owl_ 16:53 < fake> jsaw: why ? 16:54 < fake> jsaw: did i start an evil rant ? 16:54 < fake> *g* 16:54 < mnemoc> is it normal to have 50ºC of difference in as few kilometers? 16:55 < jsaw> fake: just asking 'cause of the sparc64 thing 16:55 < fake> jsaw: clifford forwarded me the mail about the fdlibm 16:56 < fake> jsaw: but i'm not motivated as it's only the quad-math stuff that's missing, not the rest 16:56 < fake> jsaw: fdlibm would replace that, too, if i saw that correctly... 16:56 < jsaw> fefe sent a mail to dietlibc ml, 'cause he did not understand what your patch is for... 16:57 < fake> o_O 16:57 < jsaw> and clifford replied. 16:57 < owl_> <- afk. (getting protectors for peru's feet) 16:57 < fake> aaah, ok 16:57 -!- owl_ [~owl@D70aa.d.pppool.de] has quit ["bye. bbl"] 16:58 < jsaw> (fefe obviously never came across a quad fp to int conversion...) 16:58 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-213-023-206-215.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 16:59 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-213-023-190-165.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:00 < jsaw> <trini@kernel.crashing.org> 17:00 < fake> jsaw: i never heard of it before, either, so... ;) 17:00 < jsaw> [PATCH] Add <linux/compiler.h> to <linux/fd.h> 17:00 < jsaw> (Changelog entry for 2.6.8-rc1) 17:00 < jsaw> forget your patch, fake 17:00 < fake> jsaw: guess that settles one or the other discussion ;) 17:00 < jsaw> well, ... 17:00 < rxr> oh - what are you talking about? 17:01 < jsaw> https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/ChangeLog-2.6.8-rc1, somewhere near the end 17:02 < fake> maybe we can patch it in in the meantime 17:03 < jsaw> me thinks that's reasonable 17:04 < rxr> fake: just for you interested, grep for compiler.h in that mentioned file ,) 17:04 < rxr> three files got such an include, now ... 17:05 < fake> rxr: did you have a look at /usr/dietlibc/include/linux, btw? ;P 17:05 < jsaw> rxr: that's not really a pro for what your points 17:05 < jsaw> are 17:07 < rxr> jsaw: ? 17:08 < jsaw> the fact that 3 more files get the compiler.h does not mean, that the majority of kernel devs think, userland apps are expected to include correct kernel headers... 17:09 < fake> kuhl, my set_loop in linuxrc works ;) 17:11 < fake> btw, rockplug is scanning really slow in qemu 17:34 < fake> not that it matters, though 17:43 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-184-253.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:44 < nzg> moin 17:45 < nzg> rxr: nice article in the "Linux Magazin" 17:47 < netrunner> there is one? 17:47 < daja77> about gcc 3.4 yes 17:50 < netrunner> nice picture :) 17:51 < fake> no unace in rock? 17:51 < nzg> yes 17:52 < fake> is there a redistributable package? 18:03 < netrunner> https://freshmeat.net/projects/unace/ says 'freely redistributable' 18:03 < rxr> and binary only or so - isn't it? 18:04 < netrunner> jup 18:05 < daja77> what is unace? 18:06 < rxr> ace is some compression stuff uses by Microsofties ... 18:06 < rxr> unace is the un packer of it ... 18:06 < netrunner> cool, without paranoia I only fail in stage 1 18:07 < demian> winace propertly. didnt know there was an unace available.. /me getting it 18:08 < netrunner> install i686-unknown-linux-gnu-strip insmod /usr/src/rock-devel/build/builder-2.1.0-DEV-x86-athlon-mp-32-generic-expert 18:08 < netrunner> /sbin/insmod.old 18:08 < netrunner> where does this strip thing come from? it breaks the build :( 18:08 < fake> netrunner: install 'autodetects' which strip to use 18:09 < fake> and configure detects wether it should strip 18:09 < fake> we need an install wrapper 18:09 < netrunner> install: installing multiple files, but last argument, `/usr/src/rock-devel/build/builder-2.1.0-DEV-x86-athlon-mp-32-gene 18:09 < netrunner> ric-expert/sbin/insmod.old' is not a directory 18:10 < netrunner> this strip thing is obviously in the wrong place. 18:10 < rxr> fake: we have an install wrapper ... 18:13 < netrunner> iirc something related to strip happened recently, who feels guilty? 18:13 * fake added STRIP=$STRIP to the default 'make' arguments 18:14 < fake> rxr: then i can do var_remove INSTALL_WRAPPER_ARGS " " "-s" ? 18:15 < fake> (their damn download doesn't work) 18:15 < fake> (winace) 18:15 < demian> bye guys 18:15 -!- demian [allyourbas@pD9E0A531.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux [] 18:18 < netrunner> fake: and $STRIP should contain -s ? 18:18 < netrunner> fake: it seems to contain the basename of the strip executable ... 18:19 < fake> netrunner: no 18:19 < fake> netrunner: $STRIP is like $CC 18:22 < netrunner> fake: have you tested this? 18:22 < netrunner> modutils has the line "$(INSTALL) $(STRIP) $$i $(DESTDIR)$(sbindir)/$$i.old; done;" e.g. 18:22 < fake> netrunner: that's just plain wrong 18:23 < fake> netrunner: STRIP in that place means "-s" or not "-s" - they override the meaning of $STRIP in their makefile 18:23 < fake> (but not correctly as it seems) 18:24 < fake> that is a bug in modutils 18:26 < netrunner> they specify it as STRIP = -s in Makefile.common. so it can be overridden according to my small knowledge of makefiles 18:26 < netrunner> well, I'll remove it. 18:28 < fake> netrunner: that's fine 18:31 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-184-253.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Money underrun - Disconnecting..."] 18:54 < De_Elsasser> wouaf, pine is now configured, champagne 18:55 < netrunner> congrats, you shot yourself in the foot :) 18:55 < De_Elsasser> :p 18:55 < rxr> netrunner: ? 18:55 < De_Elsasser> i am the king, yes I say 19:00 < De_Elsasser> just a little bleme, is there something like dvi2tty but a little better? 19:13 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M327P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 19:16 < fake> INIT: PANIC: segmentation violation 19:16 < fake> arghs. 19:18 < fake> hehe. vmware problem. 19:18 < fake> with qemu it works 19:26 -!- mX5 [~siechstel@Ae88a.a.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:29 -!- nookie [~nookie@M469P028.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:54 < jsaw> cu guys 20:15 < rxr> cu jsaw 20:22 < rxr> cu 20:26 < netrunner> rxr: I don't really like pine :) 20:33 < netrunner> damnit. what was the fix against !> libtool: link: cannot find the library `' ? 20:49 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has quit [Network is unreachable] 20:49 -!- owl_ [~owl@D71e8.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:50 < owl_> remoin 20:50 < owl_> grmpf. i'm poor! 20:52 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has joined #rocklinux 20:53 < owl_> poor as an kirchenmaus. if someone has too much money and want to support an untalented, young programmer, please query me and ask for my account nr and credit institute where you can send money too 20:54 * netrunner offers to spend 2 cent 20:54 < owl_> great! 20:54 < owl_> no thx. i guess i have more in my moneybox... 10 cent afaik... :/ 20:56 < netrunner> ah, mv /usr/lib/libSDL.la /tmp did the trick 21:01 < owl_> netrunner, will you be at the devmeeting, too? 21:09 -!- mX5 [~siechstel@Ae88a.a.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:09 -!- owl_ [~owl@D71e8.d.pppool.de] has quit ["being on aszlig.net again"] 21:10 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-3-240.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 21:25 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-2-144.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:25 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 21:45 < netrunner> in stage 2 now I get -> Building tools.chroot/wrapper/cmd_wrapper. 21:45 < netrunner> cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-SPEED-O2" 21:45 < netrunner> cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-SIZE-Os" 21:47 < netrunner> I grep for both in some dirs I hold responsible but it does not help :/ 21:51 < owl> https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzkultur/0,1518,308905,00.html 22:09 < netrunner> hahaha https://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0715041wtc1.html 22:32 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8C654.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:44 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8C5E0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:57 < daja77> strange error 23:01 < rxr> I think it is smart optimization related 23:01 < rxr> cu again - me off in bed 23:01 < daja77> looks like y typo 23:01 < daja77> cu rxr 23:15 -!- De_Elsasser [~eric@ANancy-110-1-4-225.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["leaving"] 23:18 < netrunne1> hm, I disabled it but it does not go away :( 23:18 < netrunne1> I'll try with normal opt. tomorrow. 23:26 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@pD9E4F782.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:27 < daja77> that command line switch is just wrong, it should red -O2 and -Os, without that speed and size stuff 23:27 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD958F480.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 23:27 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy 23:49 < netrunne1> daja77: yeah, but I wonder where it comes from. I tried grepping through all files in src but didn't get a clue 23:50 < daja77> perhaps from our wrapper? 23:51 < netrunne1> hm, there's something ... var_insert GCC_WRAPPER_INSERT " " "-SPEED-O2 -SIZE-Os -pipe" 23:51 < mnemoc> check wrapper's logs 23:51 < netrunne1> damn that I forgot -H :/ 23:51 < netrunne1> regrepping. 23:52 < mnemoc> re :) 23:52 < netrunne1> hi mnemoc :) 23:52 < mnemoc> hi netrunner 23:52 < mnemoc> hi daja77 23:52 < daja77> hi mnemoc 23:54 < mnemoc> dummy question: how can i sayd kernel to be kind of verbose? .... a floppy boot (2.0-stale) don't seeem to load initrc on a pmxx-200 i have here 23:55 < netrunne1> ah ... ./package/base/gcc/parse-config: is guilty. 23:55 < netrunne1> daja77: you said this -SPEED is invalid? 23:56 < daja77> never seen such a switch 23:57 < netrunne1> maybe it should be a switch to the wrapper? 23:58 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 23:58 < netrunner> I never cared for the wrappers... I see flistwrapper in misc/tools-source, where is the gcc one? 23:59 < mnemoc> cmd_wrapper 23:59 < netrunner> ah --- Log closed Sat Jul 17 00:00:13 2004