--- Log opened Sat Jul 17 00:00:13 2004
00:00 < netrunner> no such option there.
00:01 < netrunner> hm, it get's inserted for smart and bizarre only. this is also where it gets reverted.
00:02 < mnemoc> .oO( bizarre? what kind of name is that for an optimization )o
00:02 < netrunner> mnemoc: it reverts the smart one, takes Os for speed and O2 for size. you could also call it weed optimization ;)
00:03 < netrunner> this SPEED thing is for the awk script $base/misc/tools-source/smartwr.awk
00:03 < mnemoc> which is not get applied?
00:04 < netrunner> I am not that good at awk, but I suspect it should cut the -SPEED thing and the other out, but does not do so.
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00:56 < dzafez> hi has anyone build a drock 2.0.2 ? 
00:56 < dzafez> would like to download it for someones Notebook.
00:57 < dzafez> The tree seems to be so broken, I cant compile it.
00:57 < dzafez> We wanna install tomorrow anyway, so It would take to long to compile
00:59 < mnemoc> 2.0-stable tree broken?
00:59 < mnemoc> what error do you get?
01:01 < dzafez> I tried to build a extended minimal and some essential packages did not build
01:01 < dzafez> may I list them?
01:01 < mnemoc> query
01:02 < th> [bash] is it possible to run subshells in trap handling code?
01:02 < mnemoc> ./script/Create-ErrList -cfg $your_config
01:03 < mnemoc> dzafez: those are more than 'some'
01:04 < dzafez> 27
01:04 < dzafez> of 275
01:04 < dzafez> about 10 %
01:04 < dzafez> could it be because I set 2.6.7 as default kernel?
01:05 < mnemoc> can you publish the log for 1-util-linux ?
01:05 < dzafez> yes
01:05 < mnemoc> maybe
01:05 < mnemoc> very probable
01:05 < mnemoc> fake: here?
01:06 < mnemoc> th: i guess you can execute anything when trapping
01:08 < th> perhaps i should not try to handle the whole trap-code in one double quoted line
01:08 < mnemoc> dzafez: i not sure if patches to allow minimal linux2.6-only had been applied on 2.0 tree
01:09 < mnemoc> th: :D
01:12 < dzafez> http://www.dzafez.de/1-util-linux.err.gz
01:14 < mnemoc> let's see...
01:15 < mnemoc> yes, linux-2.6 damn_header_restrictions :\
01:16 < mnemoc> is it to harmfull to you to build _both_ kernels, with 2.4 as default?
01:17 < mnemoc> i guess 2.0 tree is not ready for 2.6-only
01:17 < dzafez> hm I'd like to have this easier for users to install with 2.6
01:17 < dzafez> I'll have to go for it
01:17 < dzafez> It will be ok for my samba target
01:17 < dzafez> I guess
01:18 < mnemoc> build it with 2.4 and 2.6, but you don't have to install both ;)
01:18 < dzafez> I'll try a build over rest of the night
01:18 < dzafez> thank you for your kind help
01:18 < dzafez> !
01:18 < dzafez> gn8
01:19 < mnemoc> good luck dzafez 
02:30 < fake> netrunner: that's for smarot optimiziation
02:30 < fake> mnemoc: it is
02:31 < fake> mnemoc: minimal 2.6 based should have not too much problems. ntfsprogs, jfsutils, alsa-driver, dri, maybe
02:31 < fake> but nothing basic
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09:31 < fake> good morning.
09:48 < De_Elsasser> good morning fake
09:49 < De_Elsasser> do you know if there is a bell in irssi?
10:00 < fake> De_Elsasser: i don't use irssi...
10:01  * fake trying to figure out why sbp2 doesn't get compiled into the kernel...
10:01 < De_Elsasser> what is sbp2?
10:03 < De_Elsasser> Sound Blaster Potential 2?
10:07 < fake> no ;)
10:07 < fake> scsi block protocol? something like that, i don't know
10:07 < fake> that's the protocol used for firewire disks/cdroms
10:08 < fake> something like scsi over firewire
10:14 < netrunner> moin fake
10:14 < netrunner> fake: but it should go away when I deselect smart optimization in config, no?
10:17 < fake> netrunner: if you use, e.g. size opt, yes.
10:17 < daja77> moin
10:17 < fake> netrunner: it is passed to the cc wrapper on a per-c-file-basis
10:20 < fake> hm, sbp2 is in the disable-broken.lst
10:20 < fake> but for kernel 2.5.57
10:20 < fake> how is disable-broken parsed? is the version honored?
10:21 < daja77> iirc it means broken since
10:22 < De_Elsasser> moin daja77
10:22 < De_Elsasser> hallo netrunner
10:22 < daja77> moin De_Elsasser 
10:23 < De_Elsasser> daja77: you do know, how activate the bell (or beep) in irssi?
10:23 < daja77> no
10:23 < De_Elsasser> gnargl
10:24 < fake> daja77: what a stupid idea - how do set something to 'working again' ?
10:24 < daja77> fake: dunno, if it is that way
10:25 < De_Elsasser> there is aption 'beep' in the help but what do?
10:25 < fake> daja77: there seems to be no check...
10:25 < daja77> :(
10:26 < fake> boy, that was a hard nut
10:26 < daja77> put it on todo
10:26 < fake> yep
10:27 < daja77> damn i forgot my todo points
10:30 < fake> daja77: [*] by pen and paper ;)
10:30 < fake> *buy
10:30 < daja77> I have both ...
10:34 < owl> moin
10:34 < fake> daja77: it's a nice swap space ;)
10:34 < fake> owl: moin moin
10:34 < owl> haeh? an illusion? fake awake? at 10:34 a.m.? O_o
10:34 < owl> hi fake 
10:34 < fake> owl: i got up at 8 o'clock
10:34  * fake making more coffee
10:35 < owl> fake: why? what happened? O_o
10:36 < fake> owl: i need to switch uptime periods, exam on tuesday at 9:00 AM
10:36 < owl> which exam?
10:36 < fake> and that would be pretty late in the night in my normal shift
10:37 < owl> yeah. i believe that, too ;)
10:37 < fake> and i don't want to hold a presentation in the middle of the night - if it's important ;)
10:37 < fake> owl: oral final exam
10:37 < owl> *ggg* 
10:37 < owl> fake: urgs. good luck! 
10:37 < fake> owl: thanks
10:37 < owl> de nada
10:38 < fake> and: i've got a beamer! wee!
10:38 < owl> hehe. ;)
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13:38 < fake> boy was the livecd broken
13:40  * fake Captain Future - Feinde greifen an 
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14:04 < nzg> moin
14:13 < fake> daja77: here?
14:14 < fake> moin nzg
14:24 < th> moin
14:25 < th> still no comments on the zsh issue
14:26 < fake> th: my 2 cents"
14:26 < fake> th: in /bin should only go programs that exclusively link to libs in /lib
14:27 < fake> th: that's why libncurses is in /lib
14:27 < th> cause of bash?
14:27 < fake> th: yep.
14:27 < fake> probelsm arise if /usr is on another parition and the mount fails
14:27 < th> so bash was reason enough to move that lib... i think zsh won't be to move pcre
14:28 < th> fake: yes. the reasoning is completely clear
14:28 < fake> th: well, bash is kinda standard in rock, eh ? ;)
14:28 < th> ;>
14:28 < th> perhaps zsh should link more static
14:30  * fake watching Ali G. show
14:35 < th> fake: bash does not seem to link against libncurses?
14:36 < fake> th: may be dlopen, or indirect through libreadline ?
14:36 < th>         libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40035000)
14:36 < th>         libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40038000)
14:36 < th>         /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)
14:36 < th> that's all ldd gives
14:36 < th> but it may be used by dlopen
14:37 < th>         libpcre.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpcre.so.0 (0x40035000)
14:37 < th>         libcap.so.1 => /usr/lib/libcap.so.1 (0x40045000)
14:37 < th> and these are the zsh problems
14:37 < th> but strange - zsh is providing:
14:37 < th> zsh: usr/lib/zsh/4.1.1/zsh/cap.so
14:37 < th> zsh: usr/lib/zsh/4.1.1/zsh/pcre.so
14:38 < fake> th: sounds like dlopened extensions
14:38 < th> yes - but whats the relation to /usr/lib/libpcre and /usr/lib/libcap?
14:39 < th> hmmm. zsh installs huge /usr/lib/zsh and /usr/share/zsh
14:39 < th> perhaps a symlink /bin/zsh would be the best
14:41 < fake> th: well, i see no reason against that...
14:42 < th> that would solve the only problem i have with the current situation. i can't write #!/bin/zsh scripts, and passwd can't have /bin/zsh entries.
14:42 < th> well - perhaps /etc/shells should contain zsh too
14:45 < fake> th: sure *g*
14:47 < th> do we have a script to create a rock-submittable patchfile by using svn diff?
14:55 < fake> not that i know of ...
14:55 < fake> sm ;)
14:55 < th> *shiver*
14:55 < th> svn diff does not seem to support diff's -N
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14:56 < fake> hum? it does them by default i thought
14:56 < th> fake: no. it does not mention files that are not under version control
14:57 < rxr> th: svn add before ..
14:58 < th> rxr: ahh. right. that won't touch the rep.
14:58 < th> ok. that's it
15:00 < th> so svn diff output could be ready for submission... hmm did i miss something?
15:01 < fake> hrmpf.
15:07 < hannes_> hi!
15:07 < fake> hi hannes_!
15:08 < hannes_> it's so hot today :(
15:08 < fake> ack
15:19 < th> how can i update rock-src without switching from 2.0 to 2.1?
15:19 < th> is there any mechanism besides svn update?
15:23 < th> and: wouldn't it be a good idea to have the default /usr/src/rock-src in a state that svn update works?
15:31 < netrunner> th: scripts/Update-Src
15:31 < th> netrunner: this will stay at stable tree?
15:40 < th> i don't think so
15:42 < th> rsync: failed to connect to www.rocklinux.org: Connection timed out
15:42 < th> what's up there?
15:43 < th> oh. something is up _here_
15:50 < daja77> fake: ?
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16:02 < fake> daja77: forget it.
16:03 < daja77> hm
16:05 < fake> daja77: i added '--enable-static' to alsa
16:05 < fake> daja77: so we can use the non-softmmu-qemu
16:05 < daja77> ah cool
16:05 < fake> daja77: but then it wanted artsc, and then gmodule, and that's where i stoped
16:05 < daja77> O_o
16:06 < fake> a real huge bunch of static libraries are needed
16:06 < daja77> http://lospalmos.homelinux.net/kraft.png ...
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16:14 < fake> daja77: konquerer doesn't like that
16:14 < daja77> dowsn't like what
16:16 < fake> that png
16:16 < daja77> hm
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16:17 < daja77> it does work here
16:18 < fake> 4.2 MB?? what is that? a minimal ISO?
16:19 < fake> yeah, with 900 B/s
16:19 < daja77> erhm no, i forgot that size ...
16:19 < daja77> the machine is connected via isdn
16:19 < daja77> i should reduce it
16:20  * fake cancelling wget ;)
16:21 < daja77> use kraft.jpg instead
16:21 < fake> mkay
16:22 < daja77> .oO (I destroyed the whole joke)
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16:23 < fake> btw, the classic star trek eps on kabel1 are worth watching...
16:25 < mnemoc> moin
16:26 < fake> daja77: i don't have to understand that, do i?
16:26 < fake> moin mnemoc
16:26 < daja77> fake: lol
16:27 < daja77> just the way i feel atm
16:27 < fake> hm, shouldn't additional kernel arguments be passed to init ?
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16:27 < fake> re hannes_
16:27 < fake> daja77: ic...
16:27 < daja77> hannes? you mean he is really here?
16:28 < daja77> cu later
16:28 < fake> daja77: just in case ;)
16:28 < fake> bye daja77
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16:30 < mnemoc> bye daja77, hi fake 
16:31  * fake not leaving ?
16:35 < mnemoc> who? me?
16:35 < hannes_> re
16:35 < hannes_> daja77: i am really here ;)
16:35 < mnemoc> .oO( i thought daja was leaving )
16:36 < fake> mnemoc: but i am not ...
16:36 < fake> aaargh
16:36 < hannes_> okay...
16:36  * fake ommited the 'hi' before fake
16:37 < mnemoc> :)
16:38 < fake> <- baka
16:38 < mnemoc> ?? baka
16:38 < fake> japanese for idiot
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16:38 < mnemoc> :p
16:38 < mnemoc> good to know ;) 
16:38 < fake> i called me an idiot, not you!
16:53 < mnemoc> good to know _that_ nice japaneese word, baka :p
16:54 < fake> :(
16:54 < fake> :) i mean
16:54 < mnemoc> LOL
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17:30 < fake> oh baby yeah baby yeah baby yeah!
17:34 < fake> my notebook now boots the livecd - it has a firewire cdrom drive...
17:49 < fake> the damn sbp2 stuff needs some time to discover the devices
17:51 < mnemoc> kudos to fake 
18:05 < fake> next step will be to figure out a sane x autoconfig...
18:06 < fake> the current vesafb one is ugly
18:20 < mnemoc> uhm... bootdisk doesn't have ifconfig :\
18:20 < mnemoc> how is it supposed to get 2nd stage from 'network' 
18:22 < fake> ip ?
18:22 < fake> ip addr add xx.xx.xx.xx/xx iface eth?
18:22 < fake> ip link set eth? up
18:23 < fake> ... etc.
18:23 < mnemoc> is iproute2 on stage1 of bootdisk? .... let me see (test machine in a different building :\)
18:24 < fake> ifconfig is intentionally not included, iproute2 *should* be included.
18:27 < mnemoc> it is
18:27 < mnemoc> ne2000 module is not :\
18:27 < mnemoc> (only pci)
18:28 < mnemoc> uhmm... .config said it is.....
18:31 < fake> ne2k-pci
18:31 < fake> or ne ?
18:35 < mnemoc> can i find irq and crap without rebooting?
18:42 < mnemoc> i should expected to get a message from insmod but the output is only "symbol version prefix ''"
18:42 < mnemoc> No NE*000 card found at i/o = foo <-- nothing like this :(
18:43 < mnemoc> fake?
18:43 < fake> mnemoc: don't you know the settings?
18:43 < fake> lspci -> strike out the irq's listed there
18:44 < fake> io port something between 0x200 and 0x320
18:44 < mnemoc> lspci it's _not_ there
18:44 < fake> hm
18:44 < th> mnemoc: cat /proc/pci
18:44 < fake> th: ouch
18:45 < mnemoc> but, shouldn't i get a "no card found"?
18:45 < mnemoc> that's what makes me 'unconfortable'
18:45 < fake> mnemoc: no idea, haven't used isa modules for a loooong time
18:48 < mnemoc> hi th
18:49  * mnemoc getting frustrated..... 
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19:25 < owl> hi 
19:27 < mnemoc> hi owllinette
19:29 < owl> hi mnemocilein *eg*
19:29 < mnemoc> :p
19:29 < owl> mnemoc: you was a horse-rider, if i have it correct in mind, yeah?
19:30 < mnemoc> i _was_ a polo player, not jumper or stuff like that
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19:31 < owl> if yes, do you know how much a horse from the neatherlands, between 14 - 16 years, did jumping till class M, and now is a horse which is ridden in a riding school... (he bites, and kicks people, and he's slashed at the foot and so) would cost in average?
19:31 < owl> hmmmmmmmmmmm. k. but you know the price of horses, i guess ;) ?
19:32 < rxr> #rocklinux -> horse-pricing
19:32 < rxr> #rocklinux -> #horse-pricing
19:32 < rxr> ,)
19:33 < owl> *g*  yeah. 
19:33 < rxr> owl: you own a horse? Or why do you ask?
19:33 < mnemoc> hi rxr
19:33 < rxr> mnemoc: you have been a plo player?
19:33 < rxr> polo even ?
19:33 < mnemoc> you want's to sell peru?
19:33 < owl> rxr: not yet... i'm having a reitbeteiligung  on this one: http://the-null.de.vu/misc/private/tiere/Peru1.jpg
19:34 < mnemoc> rxr: when i was at school, yes
19:34 < owl> mnemoc: nope. remi. a horse from my riding school. (who is an poor horse. 20 hours in a box, 4 hours being ridden by people who kick and hurt him - not nice)
19:34 < owl> rxr: cuz i might want to buy remi... if i would be able to
19:35 < mnemoc> .oO( now i understand why he bites and kicks people )o
19:37 < owl> yeah. he was totally happy when i walked a bit with him and he was able to eat grass... 
19:38 < mnemoc> owl: i have no idea.... i don't even know how much a harddrive costs currently :|
19:39 < rxr> mnemoc: interesting sports are you school over there ...
19:39 < owl> mnemoc: hm. that's not good.. but i guess about 1500 EUR should be enough i hope... 
19:40 < rxr> owl: doesn't google help on horse prices?
19:40  * rxr never tried ... - so
19:41 < mnemoc> rxr: in my class almost everybody was .... non-city... er... country? .... we even played polo on _bike_ ;)
19:41 < owl> rxr: nope. not really... even some horses who are ill and have some "maengel" who will be selled to a butcher are sometimes offered for > 3000 EUR
19:44 < mnemoc> uff... expensive coutry you live at
19:44 < owl> yeah. 
19:45 < owl> you're riding on papers. - aeh on the faimiliy tree... not on horses... at least it seems so, sometimes
19:46 < mnemoc> .oO( how many minutes would i survive _today_ playing polo on bike? )o
19:47 < netrunner> hm. the cksum mess is not my fault :/
19:47 < owl> mnemoc: hehehe. yeah, you're reeeeeeally old :p
19:47 < mnemoc> netrunner, you are guiltyness
19:48 < owl> lalalala. *listening to the offspring* ;)
19:48 < mnemoc> owl, age is one thing.. that was 9 years ago, which i have passed _sit_ in front of a computer 
19:49 < owl> mnemoc: hehe. try it ;P 
19:49 < mnemoc> sounds interesting
19:49 < owl> hm?
19:50 < mnemoc> the idea of trying to get a young-life again
19:51 < owl> hihi. yeah. and try exessive horseback-riding again ;) and in some years teach it your children 
19:52 < mnemoc> i should improve my relationship with my parents first, what can also be a good thing to do
19:53 < owl> why? what happened with them?
19:57 < netrunner> oh, I found it. (i thing)
19:57 < netrunner> it was changed before it got applied.
19:57 < mnemoc> the classic parents-child fight when i was 19 :p
19:59 < netrunner> hm, no.
19:59 < mnemoc> netrunner: your fault :)
20:00 < owl> mnemoc: *cough* *cough* *cough* 
20:01 < netrunner> mnemoc: I am not sure. the file differs from what I submitted.
20:01 < netrunner> if I change the changes back, it works as expected :)
20:07 < mnemoc> :|
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20:12 < true> hi
20:12 < owl> hi true 
21:02 < fake> hrm...
21:02 < fake> hi true
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21:16 < th> hmm. there is no clean way prepared to setup networking without rocknet. i'd love to have the option to switch back to old /etc/conf/network way to configure stuff
21:17 < th> if [ -f /etc/conf/network ] ; then do_it_the_old_way ; else ; do_it_the_current_way ; fi
21:18 < th> /etc/conf/network was really straight. you could understand in 10 seconds how it works. that's what i love wrt unix scripts.
21:19 < fake> th: but it was a dead end
21:19 < th> everything ends in a dead end somewhen...
21:20 < fake> th: you hit the dead end with the old /etc/conf/network as soon as you had 2 network adapters to bring up. that's not too unlikely...
21:20 < th> fake: not at all
21:20 < th> # This functions are called by /etc/init.d/network to set up and shut
21:20 < th> # down the networking stuff. In most cases its enough to change this
21:20 < th> # variables. If your setup is more complex you need to rewrite the
21:20 < th> # functions below.
21:21 < th> you could just rewrite start_net
21:21 < th> that's what i actually did when not using dhcp
21:21 < th> just some iproute2 lines.
21:21 < fake> th: that's not very polite, you have to admit ;)
21:21 < th> "polite"?
21:22 < fake> th: "the linux kernel does only support 1 processor, if you need more, just add the code." ;))
21:23 < th> fake: at least it was very easy to find the point where to add own code to do the init
21:23 < fake> th: if you are a native shell speaker, sure.
21:24 < th> fake: we should not harden the live of native shell speakers to make rock more polite to others.
21:24 < fake> th: is it really harder?
21:24 < fake> just if you reject to let it happen.. *g*
21:24 < th> well i could add all config in /etc/init.d/network alone.
21:24 < th> but i'd prefer to config it in /etc/conf
21:25 < th> so i have to re-add the /etc/conf/network hook
21:25 < fake> th: for you it's no problem to revert it - but for non shell-speakers it's also perfectly usable now...
21:26 < fake> btw, what is the problem with rocknet?
21:26 < th> fake: i don't know how to use it to fit my needs
21:26 < th> fake: and i don't want to learn it by reading documentation
21:27 < fake> th: it's worth it ;)
21:27 < th> fake: reading small shell-scripts would be ok
21:27 < th> rubbhish
21:27 < th> ok let's go thorugh it.
21:27 < th>     3. Network Configuration
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21:27 < th> |   Unconfigured interface eth0 detected. Do you want to create an 
21:27 < th> |   interface section?
21:27 < th> of course. "yea"
21:27  * fake not involved with rocknet either
21:27 < th> ok. now i get a menu with 10 items.
21:28 < fake> o_O
21:28 < fake> it should ask you about dhcp or not first...
21:28 < th> i'm trying to feel like a person for that rocknet is "polite"
21:28 < th> it didn't
21:28 < th> |  Network Configuration - Select an item to
21:28 < th> |  change the value
21:28 < th>     4. Add new global tag
21:28 < th> this one?
21:29 < fake> you shouldn't need that!
21:29 < th> ah
21:29 < th> so something si wrong?
21:29 < th> s,si,so,
21:29 < fake> it seems so
21:29 < th> s,so,is,
21:29 < th> i just run stone 
21:29 < th> current stable head
21:29 < fake> yeah, then 3 
21:29 < fake> oh
21:29 < fake> no idea what rene did to stable :)
21:29 < th> yes i selected "Network Configuration"
21:30 < th> fake: do you think non-shell-speakers choose the unstable tree?
21:30 < fake> http://dl.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbookch11.html#x42-8900011
21:31 < fake> th: i pay no attention to the stable tree
21:31 < th> fake: so you are not paying attention to the people you want to be polite to.
21:31 < fake> th: and it wasn't _me_ that decided about rocknet - i don't even know the internals - i just can understand the pro's of the decision
21:31  * fake tries to be polite to everyone
21:34 < fake> except the exceptions, of course.
21:34 < th> ;>
21:34 < fake> ;)
21:50 < netrunner> http://www.studygs.net/genius.htm
22:15 < Lorini_> hehe
22:15 < fake> hi Lorini_ !
22:16 < Lorini_> hi fake :)
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22:21 < fake> interesting.
22:21 < fake> to make i386-'optimized' binaries work in vmware you need to disable their 'acceleration'...
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22:26 < rxr> fake: ?
22:27 < rxr> maybe report that bug and win a free copy?
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22:31 < fake> rxr: ?
22:31 < fake> rxr: they may tell me i am note eligable for support ;))
22:32 < fake> i have sound problems (artsd crashing) in livecd, and qemu's sound emulation is not working afaics
22:33 < fake> hrmpg
22:38 < fake> yeah, artsd dumps core
22:41 < fake> mea culpa, though
23:12  * fake just got a sick idea
23:13 < rxr> fake: intel is responding to free users
23:14 < rxr> fake: tell them this is a show stopper and you can not invest in such a broken virtualizer ...
23:16 < daja77> hehe
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23:19 < fake> rxr: vmware != intel ?
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