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00:14 < th> rxr: do you remember how to switch to a specific vc by script?
00:18 < th> chvt(1)
00:22 < mistik1> chvt #
00:23 < mistik1> with # being tty1-12
00:31 < th> thx got it already ;)
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00:41 < th> k0s: wb
00:42 < k0s> th: thanks!
00:42 < k0s> yes, I am in ROCK, at the moment...starting the tons and tons of configuration work a new linux always needs
00:43 < k0s> two (hopefully) quick questions, if you don't mind --
00:43 < th> no matter
00:44 < k0s> 1. Anything special needed before I compile the kernel?  Not one of my favorite things to do, but I need SMP support
00:44 < k0s> 2. The console login doesn't fit on my screen! (of course, once I startx it works fine)  Any way to fix?
00:45 < th> k0s: you mean the issue in ansi?
00:45 < k0s> th: yes...
00:46 < th> first console should be ok, hmm?
00:46 < th> k0s: you should just edit /etc/issue*
00:46 < k0s> th: well, no, the whole console--80x25 is bigger than my screen if that makes sense
00:47 < k0s> wrong font size?  I'm clueless
00:47 < th> first console should be "maintenance console:" and have no big ansi issue
00:47 < k0s> th: its the same for all consoles (1-6)
00:48 < th> k0s: /etc/issue*
00:48 < th> k0s: edit them
00:49 < th> k0s: or have a look at /etc/inittab (search for "issue") to get a clue
00:49 < k0s> th:  but the problem persists after login...still an issue problem?
00:50 < th> k0s: i don't understand the problem
00:51 < th> WHAT does not fit?
00:52 < k0s> th:  the text -- all the "margins" are off the screen.  Its an LCD monitor, so should fit, in theory...I'm guessing its a getty "problem", but I've never seen it before.
00:52 < th> k0s: try "reset"
00:52 < th> or "resize"
00:53 < th> or both 
00:53 < th> in any order
00:54 < k0s> th: reset does nothing...resize prints the COLUMNS=80 and LINES=25 (as expected) but doesn't help
00:54 < th> k0s: this is a strange display, isnt it?
00:55 < k0s> th: not that strange...DELL LCD panel, standard aspect ratio
00:55 < k0s> 1600x1200 max resolution at 24bpp
00:55 < th> FP2001?
00:55 < k0s> th: yep
00:56 < th> this is a sexy one ;)
00:56 < th> DVI connected or vga?
00:56 < k0s> yeah, its probably the only thing I own worth stealing
00:56 < k0s> No, no DVI...I have an ancient Radeon 7000 card, so no DVI to connect to
00:56 < th> ok. so the auto-adjust button could help
00:56 < th> this is no software issue
00:58 < k0s> th: auto-adjust really tries hard, but still the same...its weird...works fine in RH8.  Sure its not a font issue?  
00:58 < th> not a font issue. but could be a fb-resolution issue.
00:59 < k0s> well, I'll play with it...as long as X works its less important, just annoying.  What about the kernel?  Are the sources in /usr/src "good to go"?
01:00 < th> k0s: i always extract a vanilla set of sources to build the kernel
01:01 < th> k0s: what did you install?
01:01 < th> k0s: /usr/src/linux-2.x.y-rock could be of help
01:01 < th> but that's not vanilla
01:02 < k0s> ROCK Linux 2.0.1 (2004/03/13)
01:02 < k0s> was going to compile 2.6.4-rock
01:02 < th> k0s: grab some fresh sources...
01:02 < th> k0s: but i'm the wrong one to ask "how to compile a kernel the rock way"
01:03 < th> k0s: perhaps rxr can give you more insight
01:05 < daja77> re
01:05 < th> hi daja77 
01:05 < daja77> hi th
01:08 < k0s> hmmm...anyone have a video4linux device working with ROCK?
01:09 < daja77> my sister
01:09 < th> k0s: does a hauppauge tv-card count?
01:09 < k0s> daja77: do you know if there's anything special (beyond loading the module) that needs to be done?
01:10 < k0s> th: if it uses /dev/video, then yes
01:10 < rxr> k0s: sure always and for years
01:10 < rxr> nothing special - no problems
01:10 < th> rxr: you could go for a marketing job ;)
01:10 < k0s> rxr: just modprobe <modulename> and it'll show up?
01:11 < k0s> in theory, of course ;)
01:11 < daja77> rxr does most of our marketing atm
01:13 < rxr> k0s: yes
01:13 < rxr> the devices are then of course in /dev/v4l/* or so
01:14 < k0s> I bought I DC10 video card and I can't get the mutha(&**& working for the life of me...
01:14 < k0s> supposedly supported ;)
01:14 < rxr> do not know DC10 stuff ..
01:17 < k0s> rxr: you're better off...from what I've heard after buying the card, its somewhat of a ripoff, even when it does work
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01:26 < k0s> well, I've had enough banging my head against the wall for the moment...time do something slightly less painful like laundry
01:26 < k0s> thanks for the help!
01:28 < fake> hi
01:28 < daja77> hi fake!
01:29  * fake klicki-bunti-presentations-mach
01:29 < daja77> muhahahaha
01:29 < fake> k0s: i watch dvb-s with a bt8xx based card every day...
01:30 < fake> k0s: get the 'kraxel' patches from bytesex.org
01:31 < k0s> fake: kernel patches?  then recompile?
01:32 < fake> k0s: only patching the sources will not help ;)
01:33 < fake> you often need to pass very interesting arguments to bttv
01:33 < th> fake: what do the patches do?
01:33 < fake> th: updates that haven't gone into the gernel yet
01:33 < fake> *kernel
01:33 < k0s> fake: that's too bad ;)   maybe some other day...i'm about ready to make microchip soup with this *&^*&^ card
01:34 < fake> k0s: is it a new card?
01:34 < k0s> fake: its used, if that's what you mean...and I've had it for awhile, if that's what you mean instead
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01:35 < fake> k0s: how long since it has been manufactured, i mean
01:37 < k0s> fake:  its about 4 years old, I think
01:37 < k0s> the worst part is I bought the damn thing because the friggin pins on my IEE1394 out from my Sony camera went kapputt
01:38 < daja77> *ggg*
01:38 < k0s> anyone want a SONY 350 camera?  USB out works in the windows world ;)
01:39 < k0s> oops!  Missed an 'E' in IEEE...I guess that's why I'm not a member.  That and the registration cost
01:39 < th> i'm off. cya
01:39 < fake> still pic or camcorder?
01:40 < fake> cya th
01:40 < k0s> see ya th!  Thanks for the help
01:40 < k0s> fake:  digital camcorder, not a bad one either for $400
01:41 < fake> and only usb 1 out? before you throw it away... *g*
01:41 < k0s> fake:  don't know if its usb 1 or 2.  In either case, the usb interface isn't supported by any linux software, AFAIK anyway
01:42 < k0s> fake: also has analog video out, hence the card...not as high quality as the IEEE1394 interface, but whatcha going to do?
01:42 < fake> k0s: any chance of fixing the firewire port? open the case and wire it out yourself?
01:43 < k0s> fake: looked a bit...not unless you want to desolder from a circuitboard.  Beyond my skill, anyway, but I'm not much of a solderer.
01:44 < k0s> fake:  plus, would have to get a replacement part for the pin outs (yes, they're WAY beyond straightening!)...don't know if that's available or not
01:44 < daja77> n8
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02:39 < rxr> n8
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04:44 < rolla> re
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08:15 < blindy> moin
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08:50 < fake> moint
08:51 < De_Elsasser> moin moin
08:51 < De_Elsasser> moint?
08:51 < blindy> moin fake, De_Elsasser 
08:52 < De_Elsasser> hi blindy
08:52 < blindy> fake: when will you open your doors on the 6th?
08:52 < fake> De_Elsasser: moint = moin + not enough coffe -> i allocated too much space for moin, the 't' was random memory
08:53 < De_Elsasser> ;)
08:53 < fake> blindy: no idea, after i get up?
08:54 < fake> blindy: theorethically any time, just name it, i'll adopt my sleeping time ;)
09:10 < blindy> fake: ok. I'll probably arrive at the 5th in the evening, but will stay at my home that day. I have to talk with rene and valentin to determine the method of travelling
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09:14 < martin> hello
09:14 < th> hi
09:14 < De_Elsasser> hi martin
09:14 < blindy> moin martin, th
09:14 < th> hi blindy 
09:14 < De_Elsasser> hi th
09:15 < martin> hi all
09:21 < netrunne1> f**ck
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09:22 < blindy> netrunner: ?
09:23  * netrunner cannot have qsc-dsl, all lines full :(
09:25 < blindy> sucks
09:25 < blindy> I'll probably take Arcor here in Berlin
09:26 < fake> grmpf
09:26 < fake> munich-wide tv cable net outage...
09:27  * netrunner switching on tv to check
09:27 < fake> netrunner: pro7 / channel 45 is a nice test pic ;)
09:27 < netrunner> works here.
09:27 < fake> argh!
09:28 < fake> cable net provider?
09:51 < fake> now it works again...
10:07 < th> is there a rsync server for 2.0-stable?
10:08 < netrunner> th: why not? rsync://www.rocklinux.org/rock-2.0
10:10 < th> k. i was confused
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12:26 < netrunner> http://www.malevole.com/mv/misc/killerquiz/
12:27 < daja77> moin netrunner 
12:28 < De_Elsasser> moin daja77
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12:28 < owl> hi
12:28 < De_Elsasser> heilo
12:29 < dsoul> hi owl 
12:29 < owl> hi dsoul , De_Elsasser 
12:31 < daja77> hi De_Elsasser 
12:31 < daja77> you asked for me yesterday?
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13:46 < De_Elsasser> daja77?
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15:42 < mnemoc> moin
15:43 < daja77> hi mnemoc 
15:44 < mnemoc> hi daja77 
16:02 < blindy> re
16:13 < mnemoc> hi blindy 
16:20 < mnemoc> uhm... (bootdisk target) diet is at tools.cross but build.sh use tools.native on it's path 
16:22 < mnemoc> err... second run uses tools.cross
16:31  * blindy going home
16:31 < blindy> bye
16:31 < mnemoc> by
16:31 < mnemoc> +e
17:19 < rxr> re
17:19 < rxr> hi all
17:19 < rxr> hi mnemoc 
17:21 < daja77> hi rxr 
17:21 < rxr> hi daja77 
17:22 < dsoul> hi rxr 
17:24 < rxr> hi dsoul 
17:24  * rxr installed Linux on a Psion Revo
17:24  * rxr (last night)
17:25 < mnemoc> hi rxr
17:26 < dsoul> rxr xfree86: New version (4.4.99.1 -> 4.3.99.903)
17:27 < mnemoc> uhm?
17:27 < rxr> dsoul: please feel free to submit a patch
17:28 < rxr> probably via cliffords preferred submaster cathedral system
17:28 < rxr> I'm current not investing much time in ROCK - it is not good for my health
17:29 < mnemoc> :\
17:30 < dsoul> ok
18:15 < mnemoc> aaaarg... sf.net is damn slow today
18:18 < rxr> mnemoc: for me it is often very slow - expecially cvs stuff
18:21 < mnemoc> websites are not this slow
18:24 < daja77> they should switch to subversion
18:25  * mnemoc labels a can as 'sourceforge' an kicks it away
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19:54 < rxr> my girlfriend just found an interesting 404 page:
19:54 < rxr> http://www.luccico.de/Nav/index.html
20:26 < owl> rehi
20:52 < fake> rxr: that's a 403
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21:28 < owl> hi fake !!! 
21:30 < owl> mv fake simone_w
21:30  * owl shots simeone_w
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21:47 < rxr> fake: it claims so - but you get it also for a URLs not present ...
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22:13 < mnemoc> do you think i'll feel the difference between ext3 and reiser on a pmxx/200?
22:16 < rxr> on such a system reiser might eat too much CPU ...
22:16 < rxr> but if you have many many files in dirs it might pay back ...
22:17 < mnemoc> ext3 then
22:17 < mnemoc> it's just a workstation
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22:55 < MadTux> hi.
22:56 < mnemoc> tuxie!!!
22:56 < MadTux> mnemocie!
22:57 < dsoul> hi MadTux 
22:57 < MadTux> mike!
22:57 < dsoul> :]
22:58 < mnemoc> .oO( how the heck does he knows the name of everybody? )o
22:59 < MadTux> -=[ i know everthing ]=-
22:59 < MadTux> i even know your home address :)
23:00 < MadTux> and cell phone.. and work phone.. and credit card ..
23:00 < mnemoc> i give it to you
23:00 < mnemoc> :\
23:00 < MadTux> :P
23:00 < MadTux> nah i just have a good memory.
23:01 < MadTux> and also i don't know the name of 5 people here.. maybe 6
23:01 < MadTux> so..
23:24 < mnemoc> :)
23:24 < mnemoc> aaargh! dns down :\
23:24 < owl> hi MadTux !!!
23:25 < mnemoc> hi owllinette
23:25 < owl> hi mnemoc ! :)
23:41 < th> hi
23:42 < mnemoc> hi th
23:42 < owl> hi th 
23:55 < owl> http://www.tagesschau.de/thema/0,1186,OID2415058_REF1_NAVSPM2~3453074,00.html << commit suizide and write in your final letter "i died because i saw no chance of surviving in this dumb country"
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