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--- Log opened Tue Jul 20 00:00:00 2004 00:10 -!- MadTux [~mike@master.hack-solutions.com] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 00:40 < fake> owl: simone_w ? 00:40 < fake> owl: some girl i dated? 00:41 < owl> fake: nope. the owner of peru 00:41 < owl> she's a stupid bitch 00:41 < fake> yeah, sounds familiar ;) 00:41 * fake created an incredibly colorful presentation today 00:43 * owl 's happy about the fact that my lebensversicherung will pay in the case of suicide. 00:43 < fake> owl: that's what they tell YOU! 00:44 < nookie> i need money 00:44 < nookie> give me money 00:44 * fake hands nookie -100 EUR 00:44 < fake> thanks! 00:44 < owl> fake: it's true... you need to have mentall sickness, or you have to be versichert at this lebensversicherungsscheiss without pause for over 3 years 00:45 < fake> owl: you have a life insurance? 00:45 < nookie> fake: heh 00:45 < owl> fake: yes. 00:45 < nookie> I will sell ROCK to my friends! 00:45 < nookie> 500$ from me, 1000$ in shop. 00:45 < nookie> :) 00:45 < owl> ??? nookie ??? 00:46 < fake> nookie: i have trouble giving it away for free, but good luck ;) 00:46 < fake> owl: that's ironic 00:46 < owl> 3 00:46 < nookie> nah, I need new board, ram, cpu 00:46 < fake> what do you get from it?? or is it for your many children? 00:47 < nookie> actually, I would take a new computer too 00:47 < owl> fake: i get nothing from it... but my bf. 00:47 < rxr> owl: ? 00:48 < owl> rxr: hm? 00:48 < fake> owl: aren't you afraid he may kill you or 'convince' you to suicide? 00:48 < owl> no... absoluetely not 00:49 < fake> maybe in a year or too, maybe when you two separate? 00:49 < fake> insurances are for people who fear to fail 00:50 < owl> nope. never. he's the only person who i can trust - really trust. and when i will commit suicide, i will do it when i'm totally in pain (inside)... not because someone wants me to. 00:50 < owl> and for people who don't like to life 00:51 < fake> don't you want to acknowledge the *possibility* that *someday* your feelings for him may change? 00:52 < fake> everything changes... 00:52 < fake> that's the only static fact 00:52 < fake> and a paradoxon 00:53 < owl> everything changes, but not this... (at least not yet... we had very, very bad times in our relationship, too... and we're still together) 00:53 < owl> fake: - then my parents will get the money. where do you see ther problem? or maybe my parents and a "tierschutzorganisation" 00:53 < fake> owl: let's talk about this again in, say 10 to 30 years. 00:53 < owl> fake: i guess till then at least my side will be fed up to worms 00:54 < daja77> re 00:54 < owl> hi daja77 00:54 < daja77> hi owl 00:54 < rxr> fake: what do you do with your rock'ed iPod? 00:54 * fake too tired to talk about this 00:54 < rxr> listen to music? 00:55 < fake> rxr: wihtout a working mmu? haven't tried, though there's a player 00:55 < fake> (and no FPU of course) 00:55 < owl> fake: hm? 00:55 < rxr> yes I know 00:55 < rxr> but you said you have rock on it ... - so what do you do with it? 00:55 < rxr> or do you normally run the orifinal firmware? 00:56 < fake> rxr: until now watch it boot ;) i have dual firmware installed. 00:56 < fake> if i press 'play' while booting it boots linux 00:56 < fake> if not, it boots the apple fw 00:56 < fake> it's been a while since i last tried it... 00:57 * fake has his final oral exam tomorrow - please wish me luck that the lifecd will boot like it did the last 100 times... 00:58 < owl> good luck fake 00:58 < mnemoc> livecd :) 00:58 < daja77> yep good luck 00:58 < fake> in this case lifecd is the correct term ;) 00:58 < mnemoc> :p .... good luck, rest and speach :-) 00:58 < fake> if it doesn;t work, i'm f*cked 00:59 < fake> thanks! 00:59 < fake> gn8 00:59 < mnemoc> gn8 fake 01:00 < owl> gn8 fake 01:00 < rxr> good luck fake 01:15 < th> what has a livecd to do with oral exams? 01:16 < owl> th: he's doing oral exams which are about a project he did (livecd) ... 01:17 -!- Freak [freak@helena.bawue.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:17 < th> owl: thx 01:18 < owl> de nada 01:19 < mnemoc> uhm? 01:19 < mnemoc> you learned that on your vacations on spain? 01:20 < owl> mnemoc: hm. yeah and now... i learned it whith the spanish course i did... (or at least: begun) 01:22 < mnemoc> "spanish will replace english on internet!" ... if chinese doesn't replace it first :\ 01:22 < owl> hehe. k. :) 01:23 < owl> i guess i should improve my spanish knowledge ... because i really want to move to spain ASAP... 01:26 < mnemoc> do u feel more confortable with 'hispanic' idiosyncrasy? 01:26 < mnemoc> or there is something else? 01:28 < owl> yeah. the mentality is different from the one from here... and i like it... they're more open minded... and so on. and: i have friends there 01:29 < mnemoc> uhm... question: if my section has name=Forums, is Forums the what i should set on sections= of it's items? 01:29 < mnemoc> uhm 01:29 < mnemoc> sorry 01:30 < mnemoc> irssi with more than 10 windows is not friendly 01:30 < rxr> ,-) /me knows this, too 01:30 < th> why not? 01:31 < mnemoc> i can't write /win 19 _after_ i wrote the message 01:31 < th> mnemoc: you can hit ESC-o 01:31 < rxr> th: how do you switch windows? 01:31 < rxr> and if o > 9 ? 01:32 < mnemoc> alt-0 -> 10 01:32 < th> rxr: ESC-X where X is 1-9 for 1-9; 0 for 10; qwertyuio for 11-19 01:32 < rxr> ah - I just trial'n errored 01:32 < rxr> thanks 01:32 < mnemoc> know i understand 01:33 < mnemoc> th: 21- ? next line of the keyboard? 01:33 < th> mnemoc: i have seldom that much - but yes 01:33 < SMP> you're all sick ... 01:33 < th> mnemoc: i use /win ## then 01:33 < SMP> ;-> 01:34 < mnemoc> hi SMP :) 01:34 < th> in fact i've only 6 windows now. including status 01:34 * mnemoc have to learn how to use splited windows 01:34 * rxr has 12 - because so many people constantly querry /me .. 01:35 < mnemoc> using bitlbee that is even worse 01:35 < rxr> SMP: why are we sick? 01:36 < th> rxr: oh - sorry for that ;) 01:36 < SMP> rxr: too many windows in the irc client 01:36 < mnemoc> becasue why need to jump between that high number of windows 01:36 < rxr> th: hey - this was nothing person - it is not only you ,) 01:36 < th> rxr: just kidding ;) 01:37 < th> btw. ESC-a switches to window with recent activity 01:37 < rxr> you are right - /me switching to another screen window to continue building embutils for arm 01:38 < mnemoc> th: you saved my day!! 01:38 < th> mnemoc: not much left of your day 01:39 < rxr> yeah - thanks for the insight 01:41 < rxr> really nice - soon I can replace my current Linux image on the psion with a selfbuilt one .... 01:42 < rxr> Psion Revo - with only 8MB ram - sucks a bit ... 01:42 < rxr> there you learn to hand tune _every_ byte ... 01:49 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-129-082.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:49 < nzg> moin 01:50 < mnemoc> moin nzg 01:50 < nzg> hi mnemoc 02:01 < owl> gn8 02:02 < nzg> n8 02:03 < th> hmm. cause of cups and lprng rivalery desktop target does not even have a "lpr" per s.e.? 02:03 < th> or is there some setup code somewhere symlinking at the users choice? 02:05 < nzg> yes, there is a script... 02:05 < nzg> just looking where... 02:05 < th> lprsetup.sh ahh 02:05 < th> not 02:05 < th> thats nothing about that 02:06 < nzg> there is setprinter_lprng 02:06 < th> yea. 02:07 < nzg> and there should be the same for cups 02:08 -!- nookie [~nookie@M311P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:09 < nzg> but it seems i don't have it... 02:09 < th> no matter. lprng is my favourite ;) 02:09 -!- nookie [~nookie@M311P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 02:09 < nzg> so then... 02:10 < th> nzg: thx for pointing me to that 02:10 < nzg> np 02:20 < nzg> hm, evolution seems to be bewitched... 02:20 < th> in what case? 02:21 < th> i know about some crashing points 02:21 < nzg> 1.4.0 crashed when i clicked on an hyperlink 02:21 < th> poor hyperlink 02:21 < th> must be quite depressing 02:21 < nzg> 1.4.5 doesn't but crashes when i want to view a mail that has an iCalendar as body or attachment... 02:22 < th> nzg: try to create a new group on that bar at the left 02:22 < th> (context menu on a group's caption and "add group") 02:23 < nzg> nice1... crashes 02:24 < nzg> maybe i should install both versions and use the first to manage my calendar and the latter to click on hyperlinks ;-) 02:25 < nzg> i hope evolution2 will not have these bugs when it finally comes out 02:25 < th> it'l have other bugs. 02:26 < nzg> hopefully these will be bugs that are not noticed by me... 02:27 < th> .oO(dreamer) 02:27 < nzg> just optimist 02:27 < th> okay - i just fired another full build. time to go - go get some sleep. 02:27 < th> cya later 02:27 < nzg> cya 02:30 < rxr> wohoo - and off goes compiling of a hopefully much smaller arm kernel for the Psion Revo ... 02:36 < nzg> hi rxr 02:46 < rxr> well - now I have a 2.4.18-rmk6-5mx4 to compile with gcc-3.4.1 ... 02:47 < rxr> the only kernel combination I have all puzzle parts for the Psion platform together 02:47 < nzg> rmk6-5mx4 <- ? 02:47 < nzg> aleready on the revo? 02:48 < rxr> I cross compile 02:49 < rxr> the box has only 8MB RAM for filesystem and execution ... 02:49 < rxr> but I have a binary kernel on the box already 02:49 < nzg> o, i was not thinking, that you compile on the psion 02:49 < rxr> but since this is all ugly and stone old, I build my own system currently 02:52 < nzg> hm 02:57 < rxr> hm? 02:57 < nzg> this should be possible for an palm too... 03:01 < nzg> so maybe i should buy an old palm instead of saving money for a zaurus 03:02 < rxr> depends 03:02 < rxr> my psion system will be rather low featured not to be compared with a zaurus 03:02 < rxr> e.g. it also has no extension bays 03:03 < rxr> I could record concerts with the zaurus - or voip with it ... scan wlans, and so on ... 03:03 < nzg> that's right 03:03 < rxr> the psion has 8MB for both FS and running executables ... 03:03 < rxr> I'll only have a bare minimal system on it 03:04 < nzg> yes, but the zaurus is rather expensive 03:04 < nzg> it's somehow oversized for a pda... 03:06 < nzg> i will have a real notbook in the near future i think, so the pda is just needed for pda's purposes (calendar/notes/todo/adresses/ebooks) 03:15 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@62.47.215.93] has joined #rocklinux 03:15 < rxr> damn irda crap 03:32 -!- nookie [~nookie@M311P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:36 < rxr> fixing irda get's boring 03:44 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@62.47.215.93] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:46 -!- nookie [~nookie@M379P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 03:46 < rxr> puh - crufty irda code built now ... 03:56 -!- nookie [~nookie@M379P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:58 < rxr> ok - fixed arm assample code ... 03:59 < nzg> aah, the house's now mine ;-) 04:06 < nzg> btw, svn,svn2 are desynced atm 04:07 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@pD958FC0D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:07 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD958F095.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 04:07 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy 04:11 < rxr> nzg: ok - I'll fix this 04:12 < nzg> np 04:14 < nzg> hm... 04:15 < nzg> after sm fsync with svn in server.txt i'm now at rev 3594 04:15 < nzg> svn in browser says its 3596 04:16 < rxr> oops 04:16 < rxr> my box might have crashed 04:16 < nzg> ? 04:17 < nzg> i had no errors iirc 04:17 < rxr> .oO 04:17 < rxr> top - 04:38:43 up 285 days, 15:47, 2 users, load average: 254.90, 146.42, 64.3 04:17 < nzg> A /usr/src/rock/package/xfce4/xfce4-xkb-plugin/xfce4-xkb-plugin.desc 04:17 < nzg> Full-synced master rev 3594 to local tree. 04:17 < nzg> Run 'svn commit -m "SM Full-Sync 3594"' in /usr/src/rock now. 04:17 < rxr> a load of 254.90 - WOW 04:18 < nzg> huh? 04:18 < nzg> i didn't know the linux scheduler ist that efficient 04:18 < nzg> ;-) 04:19 < nzg> trying fsync again 04:19 < rxr> with a few thousand processes trying to initiate a network connection ... 04:19 < nzg> hm 04:20 < rxr> .oO (now cron starts a few thousand sendmail aka exim processes) 04:20 < rxr> I think the box needs some more seconds to recover ... 04:20 < rxr> a wonder that it still was up ... 04:21 < nzg> few thousand sendmail aka exim processes <-- why that? 04:22 < rxr> top - 04:43:06 up 285 days, 15:52, 3 users, load average: 303.31, 235.03, 121 04:22 < rxr> YEAH !!! my arm kernel finished 04:22 < rxr> after nearly 2h editing on it ... 04:22 * rxr wonder if the first try will boot ... 04:24 < rxr> hm - my ssh session is still semi dead ... 04:24 * nzg squeezing thumbs 04:24 * rxr hopes the box will recover from this fork bomb ... 04:25 * rxr wonders about the load if ssh does not get CPU time anymore ... 04:25 < rxr> ah - new life sign 04:26 < rxr> uh - nearly the whole swap is still filled ... 04:26 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.52.199.211] has joined #rocklinux 04:27 < nzg> hm 04:27 < rxr> I should get sleep ... 04:27 < nzg> Syncing local working copy with master ... 04:27 < nzg> Full-synced master rev 3594 to local tree. 04:27 < nzg> Run 'svn commit -m "SM Full-Sync 3594"' in /usr/src/rock now. 04:28 < nzg> me too... 04:29 < nzg> but still some work to do... 04:30 < rxr> after massive killing load is at 28 now ... 04:31 < nzg> wow 04:31 < nzg> still pretty much 04:32 < rxr> 13 04:34 < nzg> compared to the 300 before, this can be read as only 3% of the processes running at first remain 04:34 < rxr> 2.03 04:36 < rxr> hm - the VPN can not be established 04:36 < nzg> that sounds much better 04:36 < rxr> maybe the uni changed network stuff again 04:36 < rxr> I take a look tomorrow ... 04:37 < nzg> so svn is the one behind the nasty fw? 04:37 < rxr> svn2 04:37 < rxr> svn is the our companies DSL line ... 04:37 < rxr> svn2 is the uni replica 04:38 < nzg> i still don't get why i get rev 3594, svn:3596, svn2:3572, mine is none of those... 04:39 < rxr> the HEAD revision might be in 2.0-stable 04:39 < rxr> so when you track trunk you have the HEAD of trunk - not of the whole repository 04:40 -!- Netsplit saberhagen.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: valentin, true, mistik1, SMP 04:40 < nzg> hm, can i enfore fetching the latest rev with sm? 04:41 -!- Netsplit over, joins: valentin, mistik1, true, SMP 04:42 < rxr> I guess this stuff it not coded there 04:42 < rxr> svn ls svn://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk 04:43 < rxr> svn ls -v svn://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk | tr -s ' ' | cut -d ' ' -f 2 | sort -u | head -n 1 04:43 < rxr> 3584 04:43 < rxr> 48 even 04:43 < rxr> 3548 04:44 < nzg> hm 04:44 < rxr> ah - not damn 04:45 < rxr> anyway - I tets my ARM image and crawl into bed 04:45 < nzg> i will go there after i went out with my dog... 04:46 < nzg> because i know i'll sleep until early afternoon and it needs a walk ;-) 04:46 < nzg> so gn8 then 04:57 < rxr> cool - my new ARM kernel is ~500kB smaller then the binary only one the "distribution" shipped .. 05:05 < rxr> n8 05:13 < nzg> n8 05:18 -!- Netsplit saberhagen.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: valentin, true, mistik1, SMP 05:26 -!- Netsplit over, joins: valentin, mistik1, true, SMP 05:31 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-129-082.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Money underrun - Disconnecting..."] 06:53 -!- Freak [freak@helena.bawue.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:07 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.52.199.211] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.35 [Mozilla rv:1.5/20031115]"] 07:40 < fake> moin 07:41 < dsoul> hi fake 07:49 -!- Netsplit saberhagen.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: togg 07:51 -!- Netsplit over, joins: togg 08:14 -!- Lorini [~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has quit ["Was ist los, hat euch jemand gebügelt? Ihr seht so geplättet aus!"] 08:17 < blindy> moin 08:17 < dsoul> hi blindy 08:24 < blindy> rxr, valentin: I'm going to go to Ingolstadt at the 5th of August. If you want, you can come with me, then I'll go by car. But I'm going to go back to Berlin at Sunday already. 08:37 -!- nookie [~nookie@M379P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 08:52 -!- De_Elsasser [~eric@ASte-Genev-Bois-102-1-4-177.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 09:43 < owl> moin 09:49 < De_Elsasser> moin owl 09:51 < blindy> moin owl 09:51 -!- ringo [ringo78@xs1.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 09:51 < owl> hi blindy , De_Elsasser , ringo 09:51 < ringo> hi owl 10:55 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has joined #rocklinux 10:58 < owl> hi hannes_ 11:02 < hannes_> hi owl 11:03 < blindy> moin hannes_ 11:03 < hannes_> hi blindy 11:16 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M325P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 11:22 -!- nookie [~nookie@M379P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:54 * blindy --> lunch 12:27 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M325P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:35 < rxr> ,pom 12:36 < rxr> moin even 12:38 < dsoul> hi rxr :) 12:41 < rxr> hi dsoul 12:41 < ringo> hi rxr 12:42 -!- pla^net [~sack@dynadsl-080-228-95-204.ewetel.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:02 < blindy> back 13:02 < blindy> hi rxr 13:03 < blindy> rxr: If I can get the system for afghanistan ready in time I'm going to leave on the 5th around 10 AM 13:11 < owl> round and sweet... the hamsters... will upload new photos. anyone interested in them 13:11 < owl> ? 13:11 < dsoul> ;> 13:12 < owl> not in eating! 13:12 < dsoul> :P 13:12 * owl kicks dsoul 13:13 < dsoul> mrrrrrrrrrrr :) 13:13 < owl> pfff 13:13 < dsoul> :] 13:15 -!- ringo [ringo78@xs1.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 13:15 < blindy> fried? 13:19 < owl> blindy: ? 13:22 < owl> gnarf. i'm hateing lycos 13:25 < valentin> owl: i like hamsters - had some myself 13:26 < owl> sorry. the tripod-webserver has currently a problem with it's filesystem... --> no access 13:27 < valentin> had to give my hamsters away because my gf is allergic :( 13:27 < owl> valentin: hehe. which ones? /me owns a zwerghamster and "hosts" the hamster of true , too ,) 13:27 < owl> valentin: that's crappy :( 13:27 < valentin> i had dsungarische zwerghamster 13:28 < owl> aaah. so - the same like we have ;) which color? the wild...? or a white e.g.? 13:29 < valentin> white belly grey back with black stripe 13:29 < owl> i c. so the wild ones 13:30 < blindy> valentin: do you want to go to DevMeeting? 13:30 < valentin> i know a variant with a ocher sand color. 13:30 < valentin> blindy: still thinking about. when do you want to know ? 13:30 < owl> valentin: hm. k. a friend of me owns a white (not an albino, but white), dsungarian zwerghamster 13:31 < blindy> valentin: well, if you||rxr come along I'd suggest going in one car 13:31 < blindy> if !(you||rxr) then I go by plane, so I'd need to know soon 13:34 < rxr> blindy: we decide today ... 13:34 < rxr> , ok? 13:37 < netrunner> hah, got accepted for sap praktika 13:39 < blindy> rxr: good ^^ 13:40 < rxr> blindy: hannes does not live far away? So we could pick up two sparc boxes there? 13:40 < blindy> netrunner: good! Now do a good job and in a few weeks there will be no more SAP on this planet! 13:40 < blindy> rxr: sure 13:40 < blindy> rxr: I've been at his house a few times, no problem 13:41 -!- ringo [ringo78@xs1.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 13:47 < owl> gnarf. have to eat something and to redress myself... and going to therapy and mediamarkt now... bye *waves* 13:49 < rxr> cu owl 13:54 < blindy> bye owl 13:57 -!- pla^net [~sack@dynadsl-080-228-95-204.ewetel.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:13 < netrunner> blindy: you think I can manage it again to ruin the company I work for? 14:13 < blindy> netrunner: why again? 14:14 < netrunner> blindy: did it once :) 14:14 < blindy> netrunner: well, wrt. SAP, you would do humanity a favor, so I'm going to cheer you on! 14:17 < valentin> netrunner: which company ? 14:17 < netrunner> valentin: roses online, an isp 14:21 < valentin> and how did you ruin it ? 14:23 < netrunner> dunno. It just happened :) 14:30 -!- kasc_ [kasc@dsl-213-023-208-023.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:31 -!- Lorini [~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has joined #RockLinux 14:42 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-213-023-208-024.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:42 -!- kasc_ is now known as kasc 16:00 -!- ringo [ringo78@xs1.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 16:33 < mnemoc> moin 16:34 < dsoul> hi mnemoc 16:36 < mnemoc> hi dsoul 16:36 < daja77> hi mnemoc 16:36 < mnemoc> hi daja77 16:36 < th> moin 16:37 < th> rxr: the two passes worked well 16:37 < th> rxr: i'll setup a config option for that now 16:41 < mnemoc> how much time does it take to drive from franckfurt to rothenburg ob der tauber? 16:42 < mnemoc> (a friend needs to know) 16:44 < daja77> is not that far away iirc 16:45 < mnemoc> one hour? two? 16:51 < rxr> mnemoc: I do not know rothenburg ... - sorry 16:51 < rxr> mnemoc: I would need to take a look on the map, too 16:51 < mnemoc> :\ 16:51 < mnemoc> iirc it's in the middle between frankfurt and munchen 16:52 < rxr> hm - rough guess 2h ... - but I would need a mpa ... 16:52 < rxr> map even 16:52 < mnemoc> thanks :) 16:56 * daja77 trying dog slow map24 atm 16:57 < rxr> maybe 2h+ ... 16:58 < daja77> 181km, 2h, or 1 if you drive like crazy 17:00 < mnemoc> good 17:00 < daja77> well depends on the the traffic jams around frankfurt too 17:00 < mnemoc> he will go to a medical congress to munchen but has a week between his arrival (to frankfurt) and the congress 17:01 < mnemoc> how can time can take a traffic jam to get out of frankfurt? 17:01 < daja77> rothenburg is on the way to munich, at least when you take this way ;) 17:02 < mnemoc> any other suggested place in the road? ;) 17:06 < daja77> devmeeting in ingolstadt :D 17:09 < fake> mnemoc: about 2 hrs 17:10 < mnemoc> :) 17:10 < fake> mnemoc: more like 3 if it's a friday noon, monday morning or general rush hour 17:10 < fake> sunday evening is also horrible 17:11 < mnemoc> uff 17:11 < fake> mnemoc: you could visit ripclaw and/ort huebi 17:11 < mnemoc> they live there? 17:12 < fake> mnemoc: near darmstadt 17:12 < mnemoc> fake: btw, a friend will go, not me :'( 17:18 < mnemoc> .oO( acording to lanchile.com i would need 3100 bucks for the tickets :\ ) 17:34 * daja77 trying to build 2.1 with rtai patch 17:36 < mnemoc> ufff 17:37 < daja77> hm? 17:37 < mnemoc> i don't have much faith in 2.1 :p 17:38 < daja77> last build was better than 2.0.2, will see how it works now 17:43 < daja77> == 17:40:56 =[0]=> Building base/glibc=glibc23 [2.3.4-2004-05-01 2.1.0-DEV]. 17:43 < daja77> ^^ 17:45 < th> hehe 17:45 < mnemoc> it passed? 17:45 < daja77> not yet 17:45 * th backups mnemoc's opinion. 17:46 < mnemoc> =D 17:46 < daja77> to pick on him later when it is released 17:46 < th> in 2.0-stable head only galeon fails in desktop target 17:47 < daja77> i had more error 17:47 < th> daja77: i _backup_ his opinion. i do NOT log it and backup the log. 17:47 < mnemoc> ^^ 17:47 < daja77> btw what the heck is gcl, and why can't it be downloaded 17:47 < th> backup as in "support" 17:48 < daja77> well there is a reason for an unstable branch ... 17:49 < mnemoc> i would love three branches :\ stable, testing and devel 17:49 < daja77> would not make sense for this project 17:50 < th> mnemoc: this sounds familiar to me... 17:50 < th> .oO( i know it from SOMEWHERE... ) 17:50 < daja77> stale, rusting and broken :D 17:50 < mnemoc> LOL 17:51 < th> harr ;) 17:52 < daja77> == 07/20/04 17:46:54 =[0]=> Finished building package glibc23. 17:52 < daja77> I am a lucky one ;) 17:55 * fake can't handle 2.0.x, it seems 17:55 < fake> i want qemu in the tree ;) 17:56 < daja77> merge it ;) 17:56 < mnemoc> my 2.0 _has_ qemu :p 17:56 < fake> daja77: see submaster 17:56 < fake> daja77: wrt gcl 17:57 < fake> daja77: i am currently compiling head too, with lots of sm patches applied 17:58 * daja77 just svn:HEAD, plus dirty hacks for rt stuff 17:58 < fake> == 07/20/04 17:51:40 =[1]=> Aborted building package glibc23 17:59 < fake> ../../../i686-unknown-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc_s 17:59 < fake> argh 17:59 < daja77> which gcc? 17:59 < daja77> hm svn:HEAD uses 3.3 17:59 < fake> 3.4.1 host / 3.4.1 target 18:00 < fake> <- brave *g* 18:00 < daja77> yep 3.4.1 brakes it, iirc netrunner reported this 18:04 < fake> daja77: where? 18:04 < daja77> dunno 18:05 < fake> let's see if google knows ;) 18:05 < daja77> hehe 18:10 < mnemoc> google knows everything we talk 18:10 < daja77> no it does not know about the queries ;) 18:10 < mnemoc> :p 18:12 < mnemoc> in fact irc protocol doesn't guarranty that :) 18:12 < mnemoc> it is not too hard to code an irc spy 18:13 < daja77> I know, I play with writing bots in perl, when bein bored 18:34 < fake> hm 18:34 < fake> clifford wrote a discarded patch that linked gcc.a to gcc_s.a 18:37 < fake> i'll try it from scratch with that 18:48 < th> hmm is it really safe to symlink qt.so to qt-mt.so? 18:48 < th> i think it should be... but not that sure... 19:03 < mnemoc> what a fraud! mount -t smbfs calls smbmount 19:03 < daja77> hehe 19:04 < th> mnemoc: welcome to the world of windows networking ;> 19:04 < mnemoc> :\ 19:04 < daja77> better than a mount command linked against samba stuff i guess 19:04 < mnemoc> :p 19:07 < fake> the ln of gcc.a to gcc_s.a is really needed 19:08 < th> google knows this now. 19:09 < daja77> not now, but after they got the log tomorrow 19:09 < th> .oO(nitpicker) 19:10 < owl> re 19:10 < th> hi owl 19:10 < owl> hi th 19:11 < daja77> th: indeed 19:30 -!- De_Elsasser [~eric@ASte-Genev-Bois-102-1-4-177.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["leaving"] 20:05 < daja77> hm modutils failed at stage 1 20:05 < th> .oO(must be trunk) 20:07 * daja77 kicks th 20:08 < daja77> it reached stage 2 anyway ... 20:11 -!- pla^net [~sack@dynadsl-080-228-95-204.ewetel.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:12 < th> daja77: oh - wow - stage2! really? 20:12 < th> *g* 20:12 < daja77> yes! 20:12 < fake> == 07/20/04 20:09:38 =[3]=> Finished building package strace. 20:13 < fake> HEAD with patches opt. for pentium-m 20:13 < daja77> fake: should we kill all non believers *gg* 20:13 < fake> gcc 3.4.1, btw 20:21 < netrunner> fake: hey, you took my arch patch? 20:23 < netrunner> daja77: the logs are instantly updated. google gets it as soon as it spiders the site again. 20:30 -!- pla^net [~sack@dynadsl-080-228-95-204.ewetel.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:30 -!- pla^net [~sack@dynadsl-080-228-95-204.ewetel.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:31 < th> netrunner: thx for your support ;) 20:31 -!- pla^net [~sack@dynadsl-080-228-95-204.ewetel.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:32 < jsaw> fake: the link from gcc.a to gcc_s.a is definitely wrong. libgcc_s is a shared library. 20:32 < jsaw> there must be some gcc_s.so somewhere! 20:32 -!- pla^net [~sack@dynadsl-080-228-95-204.ewetel.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:33 < th> how about libgcj? 20:34 < th> is that java analogon? 20:34 < netrunner> th: ? 20:34 < jsaw> (disappears again, daughter -> bed. cu l8r) 20:34 < th> netrunner: (for telling daja77 about instantenous google thingie) 20:35 < th> jsaw: your girl is late ;-) 20:36 < fake> netrunner: gcc 3.4.1 ... 20:37 < fake> netrunner: just the 2 lines in gcc-options und config.in 20:40 < netrunner> fake: oh, I forgot to submit this one. 20:45 < netrunner> fake: you noticed that there's 2 pentium-m? 20:46 < th> where is that pure_virtual defined? it's not in libgcc_s 20:53 < jsaw> re 20:53 < jsaw> th: nope, natural time 20:53 < th> jsaw: how old? 20:53 < jsaw> 2.5 20:53 < th> hmm ok 20:54 < jsaw> now, she's lying in bed and reading books... 20:54 < th> books about applied cryptography? 20:54 < jsaw> hehe