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--- Log opened Wed Jul 21 01:32:52 2004 01:32 < rxr> test even 01:33 < fake> ... 01:33 < rxr> good logging again ... 01:33 < rxr> so services running - logs reopened ... 01:33 < rxr> time to go to bed ... 01:33 < fake> rxr: sleep well... 01:33 < th> rxr: cya 01:37 < zenlunatic> i still don'ty understand the diff between a build kit and custom distro 01:37 < th> zenlunatic: the one thing is a distribution and the other is not 01:38 < fake> zenlunatic: output of a distribution build kit is a binary cd 01:38 < fake> output of a customized distribituion is one pc with a customized distribution on it 01:38 < th> (which can be called "distribution") 01:38 -!- [anders] [~anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux 01:38 < fake> anders! 01:38 < [anders]> lo fake 01:39 < fake> what's up on the island? 01:39 < mnemoc> zenlunatic: a distribution is something you can distrubute, the product of a gentoo build is not distributable as a finished product 01:39 < zenlunatic> oh so rock is to build your own distro but not your own desktop 01:39 < [anders]> fake: not much.. Blair being a pompus git still.. 01:39 < fake> *G* 01:39 < [anders]> zenlunatic: ehrm, you get desktop env's with it 01:39 < mnemoc> zenlunatic: exactly 01:40 < fake> zenlunatic: you can install the distro you build on any pc you designed it for ;) 01:40 < mnemoc> zenlunatic: you can build a distro for you desktop 01:40 < th> zenlunatic: yes. but it's a trivial approach to build a desktop-distribution which brings you the desktop 01:40 < fake> *LOL* 01:40 < mnemoc> :D this is the best help desk in the world 01:40 < th> ack 01:40 < rxr> hi [anders] ! 01:41 < fake> *** zenlunatic [ ... ] (buffer overrun) 01:41 < [anders]> lo rxr 01:41 < zenlunatic> > 01:41 < zenlunatic> ? 01:41 * [anders] confess to being a pure Debian house a.t.m. 01:42 < mnemoc> zenlunatic: is that question about fake comment or about something else? 01:42 * fake pure ROCK/FreeBSD 4.10/OpenBSD 3.5 01:42 < mnemoc> fake, as pure as usual 01:43 < fake> as pure as a fake can be, eh ? 01:43 < mnemoc> yeah 01:43 * fake can't stand any other distros any more 01:43 < rxr> oh damn 01:43 < [anders]> I just got tired of how things were around 1.4/1.5/1.7 times 01:44 < zenlunatic> mnemoc fak 01:44 < [anders]> went back to using SuSE on the stinkpad, that sucked even worse.. Tried Debian and got stuck.. 01:44 < fake> [anders]: give 2.0/2.1 (!) a try, many *great* new features and corrections 01:44 < [anders]> works for me.. Will take a look at ROCK again sometime 01:45 < fake> [anders]: shall i upload a live cd image for you? ;) 01:45 < [anders]> When I have a dual A64 box with 2G RAM.. 01:45 < fake> hm... that reminds me... i could upload it... 01:45 < th> rxr: what's up? 01:46 < [anders]> fake, nak, not necessary.. I'll build one when I get time to tinker with it 01:46 < rxr> I think I managed to connect to rwo irc servers 01:46 < rxr> and now I'm puzzled with the irssi interface to disconnect one ... 01:46 < th> rxr: thats no problem 01:46 < fake> [anders]: if it doesn't work, direct bug reports to me 01:46 < th> rxr: /server 01:46 < th> rxr: /disconnect XYZ 01:47 < [anders]> fake: ack.. will do.. might take a while before I get there though 01:47 < th> rxr: where you get XYZ from /server output 01:47 < rxr> ah jups 01:47 < rxr> ah - better 01:47 < fake> [anders]: ./scripts/Config -> livecd -> ./scripts/Download -> ./scripts/Build-Target -> Create-ISO -> burn -> fun? 01:48 < [anders]> fake: need to download all the stuff first.. I got some other work stuff to learn / play with first.. 01:48 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o rxr] by ChanServ 01:48 < [anders]> fake: take a look at staf.sourceforge.net/index.php 01:49 < fake> [anders]: looks like a science for itself ... ;) 01:49 < [anders]> fake: it is.. it has an embedded python engine 01:50 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o rxr] by rxr 01:50 < [anders]> fake: I've been writing xml for staf to do some of our automated testing. 01:51 < [anders]> first I have to get it working with the old scripts, then we migrate functionality from the old scripts into the staf xml files 01:51 < rxr> th: thanks 01:51 < [anders]> will take a looong time to do 01:52 < fake> [anders]: looks like it will pay off... 01:53 < [anders]> fake: if you gander at the pdf docs they have, you'll see that staf/stax is pretty cool.. 01:54 < [anders]> the best thing is that it is distributed 01:54 < [anders]> after a fashion 01:54 < fake> [anders]: ... i have a pdf phobia 01:54 < [anders]> fake: shame, their docs are very detailed and good. 01:55 < [anders]> if you decide to take a closer look at it for some reason, get over that phobia 01:55 < rxr> ok - so more checked and _now_ I'm finally off into bed 01:55 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.52.199.102] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.35 [Mozilla rv:1.5/20031115]"] 01:56 * [anders] is heading bed-ways as well.. 01:56 < fake> [anders]: gn8 01:57 < fake> greetings to the queen 01:58 < [anders]> fake: *lol* if I ever got close to the palace, they'd arrest me thinking I was a terror-rist 01:58 < fake> [anders]: good boy. ;) 02:15 < th> ok i'm off now too 02:15 < th> cya tomorro 02:22 < fake> hehe 02:22 * fake reading irc logs from 2002 02:22 < fake> mostly in german 02:44 -!- zenlunatic [~justin@pcp229422pcs.catonv01.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 02:48 < fake> this is fun! 02:48 < fake> boy, am i an idiot *g* 02:51 < jsaw> :))) 03:04 < fake> 18:01 < huebi> Please ignore This line. It's just to raise my stats. :-)) 03:04 < fake> *ROFLMAO* 03:18 < rxr> remoin 03:18 < jsaw> already that late? 03:19 < rxr> jsaw: no - just in the middle of the night 03:19 < rxr> I just debugged my kernel before I wanted to close my eyes 03:19 < jsaw> which kernel, that on your computer or that in your brain? 03:19 < rxr> and since I found a work around for my ALSA iBook sound capture problem I wanted to wrie a mail about that I sshed again ... 03:22 < fake> 15:28 < armijn> fake: just give up your sleep. 03:22 < fake> 15:29 < fake> armijn: what sleep ? 03:23 < fake> rehi rxr 03:23 < rxr> I guess I should take the time tomorrow and send my alsa snd-powermac.c fixes queue upstream *g* 03:23 * fake reading very old IRC logs as bedside stories 03:23 < fake> today... 03:23 < rxr> so not only people with my ROCK CD get into the fun of them - but also Yellowdog and Debian users can stop filling mailing lists *g* 03:31 < fake> 16:10 < clifford> fake: wo bist' hin? ich bin auf einmal allein auf der indy .. 03:31 < fake> 16:10 < clifford> und ich fuercht' mich doch im dunkeln auf einer fremden maschiene .. 03:31 < fake> 16:11 < huebi> clifford: die bits sind nicht gefaehrlich, nur die Bytes 03:31 < fake> 16:13 < Be-El> schneidet einfach das MSB ab, dann verlieren die anderen den mut 03:35 < fake> ;) 03:36 * fake falling asleep 03:42 * rxr moved the iBook out of the bad - and dimmes the backlight from 1/16 to 0 to have aboslutely no light to sleep ... 03:42 < rxr> s/bad/bed 03:42 < rxr> even 03:42 < rxr> damn - need sleep 04:07 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@pD958F3F1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:07 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD958FC0D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 04:07 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy 07:36 -!- StefanG_ [~StefanG@port-212-202-36-165.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:47 < netrunner> moin 07:52 -!- StefanG [~StefanG@port-212-202-168-135.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:25 < netrunner> hm. ffmpeg fixed? 08:36 < netrunner> I'm too stupid to create patches :( 08:40 < netrunner> aha, fixed. 08:49 < blindy> 5B/away 08:49 < blindy> moin 08:49 < Lorini> moin 08:56 < netrunner> moin Lorini & blindi 08:57 < netrunner> damn, now I have robotik tomorrow and fix rock packages, clean my desk ... 09:00 < blindy> set priorities 09:01 < blindy> 1) fix ROCK 2) clean desk 3) ... n) Robotik 09:02 < netrunner> :) 09:02 < netrunner> already fixed ffmpeg. now cleaning. 09:03 < netrunner> arg, shouldn't do that. found unpaied bills :( 09:06 < blindy> ouch 09:21 < owl> rofl. my "driving teacher" forgot that i had driving lesson at 0900 am today *hrhr* 09:36 < netrunner> owl: do you take driving lessons before or after psychotherapy? ;) 09:37 < owl> netrunner: huh? why? it's independent 09:38 < [anders]> hoi hoi 09:39 < owl> hi [anders] 09:39 < [anders]> lo owl.. how's you? 09:41 < blindy> moin [anders] 09:41 < [anders]> lo blindy 09:41 < [anders]> blindy: how's it hanging? 09:42 < owl> [anders]: hm. so-so. thx. you? 09:42 < [anders]> owl: I'm alright.. eating breakfast now.. cornflakes and bananas 09:44 < owl> hm. k. i can't eat... cuz i've got problems with my stomach again 09:44 < [anders]> owl: ouch 09:44 < owl> yep 09:46 < blindy> [anders]: I feel stupid >_< I seem to be unable to close a RACK again (side) 09:47 < netrunner> owl: uhm ... nice feeling to have people driving around that are mentally mad ;) 09:48 < netrunner> interesting. Download -cfg bla -list-missing outputs numbers. 09:49 < owl> netrunner: :p mentally mad doesn't mean, that i'm agressive. i'm just driving _normal_ ;) 09:51 < daja77> where normal means like a woman 09:51 * daja77 hides 09:54 < owl> how does women drive? 09:56 < netrunner> hey, am I stupid? 09:56 < netrunner> could anyone please try a scripts/Download -list-missing 09:56 < netrunner> I only get numbers here. I have a fix, but want to be sure it is not only here. 09:57 < daja77> it is not here, but it is a bit outdated 09:58 < netrunner> daja77: I think it is related to the download restructuring, do you already have this? 09:59 < daja77> no perhaps not, i have no current tree on this machine 10:02 < netrunner> ah, it's cliffords fault [2004071520332807287] 10:03 < daja77> ^^ 10:07 -!- De_Elsasser [~eric@ANancy-110-1-8-186.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 11:03 < blindy> *yawns* 11:04 < daja77> hi blindy 11:05 < blindy> hi daja77 11:07 < blindy> watchin a few Sun Machines doing all the work is no fun >_< 11:08 < blindy> and all IRC channels I'm on are dead ._< 11:09 < daja77> no nethack? 11:10 < blindy> no motivation for nethack atm 11:10 < blindy> too many stupid deaths last weex 11:10 < blindy> week 11:10 < daja77> you could read usenet 11:11 < th> or dilbert 11:12 < dsoul> or write some fake bugreports for debian ;P 11:12 < daja77> hm why fake bug reports ^^ 11:13 < th> or color the house of your neighbar pink. 11:13 < owl> stupid deaths? 11:16 < dsoul> daja77 to slow the release of new version :P 11:17 < blindy> th: dilbert is one of my "daily-check" links 11:17 < th> blindy: same here 11:17 < blindy> owl: (YA)SD: like having a first-class ass-kicking character wielding a cockatrice corpse and then falling into a pit, being turned to stone in the progress 11:17 < daja77> dsoul: I do not kick someone who is already down 11:17 < th> blindy: i put a SSI include link on my bookmark page giving the link to the current dilbert 11:18 < owl> hmm. k. 11:18 < blindy> th: I just have a script with around 12 comics that opens each comic in a new mozilla-tab 11:18 < th> blindy: 'k 11:20 < dsoul> daja77 lol 11:32 < netrunner> ah, nice, my build now entered stage 2 :) 11:32 < blindy> hmm 11:32 < daja77> blindy: still bored you could read that and the attached fun below https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/49255 11:32 < blindy> rxr sending mail-dups 11:41 < netrunner> this stupid smap does not sm ap :( 11:46 < netrunner> hm, have an orphaned smap.cfg :/ 11:46 < netrunner> how stupid can one be? virusalert@info (0,6K) VIRUS (W32/Netsky-P) IN MAIL TO YOU (from <?@[127.0.0.1]>) 11:46 < daja77> clifford wrote sth about updating sm 11:48 < netrunner> yes. that's what I did. but my wild cross-mounting all dirs between my machines somehow placed this smap.cfg im my tree in which there is an option not to run sm ap 11:48 < SMP> netrunner: AV companies desperately trying to speard their advertisements that way 11:49 < netrunner> SMP: it came from the uni virus scanner 11:50 < SMP> sure. does it have an 'advertisement' for the virus scanner in there? 11:51 < SMP> i.e. listing the name of the product or manufacturer 11:52 < daja77> how would use av sw from ppl who spam 11:52 < daja77> who even 11:53 < SMP> everyone does? 11:53 < daja77> hm that would include me ;) 11:54 < SMP> ever asked yourself why so many AV products send so many useless virus warnings` 11:54 < SMP> ? 11:54 < SMP> because these are useful for the recipent? 11:54 < SMP> no! because it's a cheap way to spam! 11:54 < daja77> no I never asked myself, because I am not even affected by the viruses 11:55 < SMP> you never got a warning claiming you sent an infected message when some worm just used your address as the sender? 11:56 < daja77> i got those messages and ignored them 11:56 < SMP> see 11:56 < SMP> strictly speaking these are just spam 11:56 < th> daja77: so you could say u are not affected by spam cause you can ignore it? 11:57 < daja77> not really 11:57 * SMP currently having his company's domain under joe-job attack :-\ 11:57 < th> so you can't say you are not affected by the virus-spam-mails 11:57 < th> joe-job? 11:57 < th> can he hack windows programs? 11:58 < daja77> by the viruses itself, the messages i got, perhaps I was not precise on this 11:58 < SMP> joe-job = spammer using fake adresses under that domain as sender of their messages 11:59 < SMP> i.e. postmaster gets hundreds of double-bounces each day 11:59 < netrunner> SMP: no ad, just a link to the rgb (rechnerbetriebsgruppe) 11:59 < SMP> netrunner: u-hu 12:00 < netrunner> SMP: prooves their skills ;) 12:00 < SMP> netrunner: sure does ... 12:01 < netrunner> oh, just wanted to complain that 2-gcc34 fails, but I had no space left ;) 12:01 < th> SMP: so the mails have rctps to non existent mailboxes? 12:01 < netrunner> uh, oh, the default of 800M tempfs just got bursted by gcc3.4.1 12:02 < SMP> th: no, I get bounces to non-existent mailboxes 12:03 < SMP> (yeah, that _does_ also mean I get "mails have rctps to non existent mailboxes", but that's not precise enough ;> ) 12:19 < th> SMP: so - would you get these bounces when you mail server would not accept these mails at smtp? 12:21 -!- valentin [~valentin@p213.54.203.213.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:21 < SMP> th: stop pushing it, I know what you're going to say 12:21 < th> SMP: ;) 12:21 < valentin> re. damn thunderstorm 12:21 < th> valentin: will qsc send a new modem? 12:22 < SMP> th: it's not that easy, the outer relay doesn't have the user database. otherwise I could just to recipient verify with qmail-ldap 12:22 < th> SMP: why does the outer relay not have the user database? 12:22 < valentin> th: don't know yet - have to find out customer support number. 12:23 < SMP> th: because I haven't replicated the LDAP directory over to it 12:23 < SMP> th: because that LDAP directory simply does not exist for the legacy adresses 12:23 < th> valentin: is that qdsl home? 12:23 < valentin> yes 12:24 < th> valentin: Infoline für Privatkunden: 01801 73 75 43 12:24 < valentin> thanks 12:26 < th> SMP: oh - when it doesn't exist it's no "outer relay does not have" issue. 12:26 < th> SMP: it's more a "i don't know my rcpt addresses" issue ;-] 12:27 < SMP> well the internal mail server has it. not in LDAP of course 12:28 < th> i see 12:29 < SMP> I _could_ apply some ugly inverted match regular expression badrcpto voodoo, but ... 12:29 < th> but your are going to put it into ldap soon? 12:29 < SMP> no 12:30 < th> you could replicate the user database to the outer relay 12:30 < SMP> it's not useful for qmail unless it's LDAP 12:31 < th> . o O ( ... ) 12:32 < th> SMP: that's not true. 12:32 < th> SMP: in fact. even LDAP data is not useful for (vanilla) qmail 12:33 < th> SMP: so you need to patch some architecture for data-access into qmail 12:33 < SMP> are you trying to be smarter than me? :-> 12:34 < th> just trying to stop your qmail-check ignorance. 12:34 < SMP> as a matter of fact, qmail-ldap and LDAP is the only way it could possibly work _right now_ 12:35 < th> i wonder where you get your facts from. 12:35 < SMP> send patch 12:36 < th> sure 12:37 < th> if you will look at it in detail 12:39 < SMP> I will 12:39 < th> .oO(that was easy) 12:39 < th> just a second 12:41 < blindy> back 12:41 < SMP> th: I never said I wouldn't look at it, you just never asked :> 12:42 < th> might be 12:43 < th> SMP: .oO(somehow postfix comes to my mind) ;-p 12:43 < SMP> stdio.h *brr* 12:43 < SMP> bbl 12:44 < th> SMP: it's just for DEBUG() it'll vanish 12:44 < SMP> of course 12:51 * netrunner destroying the future of 2 chickens 12:51 < netrunner> afterwards I think I'll have to boot the ac, getting hot in here. 13:01 < netrunner> damn, 900MB is also not enough. building w/o tempfs 13:52 < blindy> netrunner: for xfree I need 1GB 13:55 < netrunner> blindy: until now I went fine with 800MB. survived several builds. 14:01 < blindy> xfree linked statically? 14:01 < blindy> no, never :) 14:15 < blindy> hmm 14:16 < blindy> looks like some companies here in Berlin are closed because of sudden richdom 14:18 < netrunner> arg, why is the preferences dir of firefox called .phoenix? is this configurable? 14:20 < fake> moin 14:20 < netrunner> hi fake 14:24 -!- ringo [ringo78@xs1.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 14:24 < ringo> moin 14:30 -!- kasc_ [kasc@dsl-082-083-043-242.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:33 < blindy> netrunner: you have the source, so yes, it is :) 14:34 * ringo is a little bored 14:34 < Lorini> moin moin 14:34 * blindy is bored a lot 14:34 < blindy> moin Lorini 14:34 < ringo> moin Lorini 14:35 < blindy> hi fake 14:35 < ringo> blindy: thx I feel better :) 14:36 < fake> hi ho 14:36 * fake has a headache... 14:36 < fake> too much sparkly wine :( 14:36 < ringo> fake: You have a life ;) 14:37 < fake> ringo: me and a friend of mine partied a bit because i finished my exams succesfully, we celebrated by compiling him a new pentium-m optimised ROCK build ;)) 14:38 < ringo> Nice going fake ! Congrats 14:38 < fake> thanks ... 14:39 < ringo> What study did you do exactly ? 14:39 * ringo curious 14:40 < fake> uff, let me leo 14:40 < ringo> ok ... nejoy your afterparty ... 14:40 < fake> IT specialist 14:40 < ringo> N1ce 14:40 < fake> (leo is a translation page german/englisch) 14:40 < fake> IT specialist / Application Development 14:41 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-213-023-208-023.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:41 -!- kasc_ is now known as kasc 14:41 < ringo> App dev. lekker (what they say in Holland) 14:41 < fake> lecker = tasty 14:42 < ringo> I am messing databases up in php for a non g33k ... 14:42 < ringo> Its nice they have no clue what you are doing ... 14:42 < blindy> well, I have no clue what I am doing here, either :) 14:42 < blindy> still, I'm getting paid for it 14:43 < fake> either is fine ;) 14:43 < ringo> blindy: N1ce, I know I have make an access database on the net before friday ... 14:43 < ringo> Else I can do it in my own vacation 14:44 < th> ringo: you'd refuse making access db's 14:45 < ringo> I know he made it himself, and now he wants it on the net ... export via odbc 14:46 < ringo> I tried codecharer etc not fun me want to php myself ... 14:46 * ringo puts a sock in his mouth 14:47 < th> uhh "php". /me shuts up. 14:48 < ringo> Can make also make it in perl/mysql /me like perl a lot more 14:48 < ringo> but I am waiting for 15.00 14:55 < fake> packe groff fails with optimiziation pentium-m... 15:04 < owl> hi fake . how was your presentation? 15:07 < owl> https://the-null.de.vu/misc/private/tiere/hamsters btw 15:08 < netrunner> owl: you know what this little button with the flower on your camera is about? 15:09 < owl> hoeh??? 15:09 < netrunner> owl: you haven't noticed that the pictures are fuzzy? I mean _all_? 15:09 < th> exactly 15:10 < netrunner> owl: cameras usually have a macro mode. and usually the symbol for this is a flower. 15:10 < owl> i have... but the most of the pictures are... cuz the camera is not really good... (it's not mine...) 15:10 < owl> a cheap one, too??? 15:11 < netrunner> probably. if it's digital, it might be hidden in a menu 15:11 < owl> hmm. i tried differend "focus models", too and so on... --> no chance to change it to good quality 15:12 < netrunner> then you were too close :) 15:12 < owl> hm... about 1 metre distance? i wanted to see them ;p 15:13 < netrunner> I'd say you should be >0.5m away. depends on the lense. 15:13 < netrunner> that's why zoom functions were invented:) 15:13 < owl> yeah... hrn 15:24 < netrunner> huh? after aborting a build and restarting it my config is deleted?? 15:25 < jsaw> re 15:26 < jsaw> netrunner: yep, if config.* files stay in the top directory, your config is lost... 15:29 < netrunner> hm. had to restart the build anyway, forgot to disable stage 9 15:32 < jsaw> owl, next time simply take a "Leselupe" (reading glass?) and put it in front of the objective... 15:36 < blindy> netrunner: yes, that happens quite frequently 15:37 < blindy> mostly if you a) start two builds in one physical directory b) start ./scritpts/Config twice or c) generally do dual work on one tree 15:40 < ringo> /quit 15:41 < netrunner> ringo: you ought to say /quit now 15:43 < th> /quit 15:43 < th> hmm 15:45 -!- ringo [ringo78@xs1.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 15:55 < mnemoc> moin 15:55 < th> hi mnemoc 15:55 < mnemoc> hi th 15:56 < netrunner> hi mnemoc 15:56 < mnemoc> hi netrunner 15:56 < netrunner> either I cook some coffee now or my eyes power down. 15:58 < mnemoc> netrunner: did you sleep last night? 16:05 < blindy> mnemoc: I think they powered down already :) 16:06 < mnemoc> it seem so 16:06 < netrunner> almost. now cooking coffee :) 16:06 < netrunner> yes I slept. even 7h. maybe it's the learning stuff. 16:16 < mnemoc> is your brain toasted as rene's modem? 16:16 < netrunner> probably. 16:20 < valentin> mnemoc:my modem, not rene's .... :( 16:20 < mnemoc> oh 16:20 * blindy going home 16:20 < blindy> bye 16:20 < mnemoc> cu blindy 16:41 < th> valentin: what does qsc say? 16:53 < valentin> can't phone them from work - or damn pbx does not allow me to set off calls to 01801 numbers from my room 16:54 < th> valentin: it's 0900h to 1800h only. 17:02 < valentin> .oO 17:19 < netrunner> https://www.8ung.at/sprittwoch/sprittforfun/knightrider.html (german) 17:19 < netrunner> clifford seems to be starting a monster reference build :) 17:43 < th> did he stop voting 17:43 < th> ? 17:46 < netrunner> no, he votetd pro on a huge amount of patches in submaster, which iirc happens when he applies them. 17:47 < th> yes. and my question was if he is ready with voting already 17:48 < netrunner> last pro vote was an hour ago, so probably yes. 17:48 < rxr> re 17:48 < netrunner> hi rxr 17:48 < netrunner> this gcc34 shared file thing is annoying. 17:51 < th> hi rxr 17:59 * SMP needs to make a byte[] from a String to feed it into System.Security.Cryptography.MD5 17:59 < SMP> but there doesn't seem to be an easy way 18:01 < SMP> so I'll do it right in the database where I need the hash anyway. hehehe 18:04 < mnemoc> SMP: i did a function to do that 18:04 < mnemoc> and binary on the database 18:29 -!- De_Elsasser [~eric@ANancy-110-1-8-186.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["leaving"] 19:38 < netrunner> gcc 341 does not compile :/ 19:38 < netrunner> /tmp/ccCwkFMi.s:448: FATAL: Can't write javax/naming/.libs/LimitExceededException.o: Invalid argument 19:40 < netrunner> oh ... No space left on device 19:40 < th> i just wanted to ask that. 19:41 < netrunner> I wonder which device. all have >5GB free. 19:42 < netrunner> oh, wonderful. tempfs got reenabled. grmpf 19:42 < mnemoc> i just wanted to ask that :D 19:42 < netrunner> if it wasn't that I disabled it before ... 20:31 < netrunner> we should watch the fs usage during build, write it into the caches and give out recommendations according to the package selection 20:39 < rxr> netrunner: are you smoking? 20:40 < netrunner> rxr: ? 20:41 < netrunner> rxr: do I interpret your comment correctly that you disagree with my proposal? 20:42 < netrunner> interesting: https://menuetos.org/ 20:44 < rxr> netrunner: yes - I think this with neither work reliable - nor do we really want that ;-) 20:44 < rxr> full assembler written - urgs 20:44 < rxr> there is more portable and abstracted (e.g. no assembler) stuff out ... 20:44 < rxr> skyos and co 20:45 < netrunner> rxr: it could be a hint. better than guessing a value and then retrying the 1h gcc34 build. 20:45 < netrunner> looks nice though 20:46 < rxr> do you know skyos? 20:48 < rxr> I think we should not offer this tmpfs thing btw 20:48 < rxr> build with is is just plain stupid ... 20:55 < netrunner> rxr: no, it improves performance imho. at some point, when many small files are compiled, it is noticeable. 20:56 < netrunner> rxr: I can run benchmarks on this issue next week if you like. 20:56 < netrunner> (maybe I am wrong though. at least it makes my hdd last longer :) 21:26 < rxr> but maybe your RAM dies earlier then ... *g* 21:28 < Freak> https://raible.org/item/209 (german) 21:28 < Freak> (and solely interesting for german-speaking ppl I fear) 21:33 -!- nonroot [~nonroot@200.21.110.106] has joined #rocklinux 21:33 < nonroot> hi 21:33 < nonroot> anyone have seen mike? 21:33 < nonroot> alguien ha visto a mike? 21:37 < rxr> not in the last hours 21:37 < nonroot> ok thx 21:37 < rxr> maybe he joins in a bit later .. 21:37 < nonroot> ok 21:37 < nonroot> nonroot from gigax was here 21:37 < nonroot> ;) 21:43 < netrunner> this osbourne guy on rlml is so strange, I need to hold me back not to flame him. 21:43 -!- nonroot [~nonroot@200.21.110.106] has left #rocklinux [] 21:44 < rxr> netrunner: calm down - let new users ask questions .... 21:48 < owl> jsaw: hahaha. 21:51 < jsaw> re 21:51 < jsaw> owl: ? 21:51 < rxr> hi jsaw 21:51 < jsaw> hi rxr 21:51 < owl> jsaw: leselupe... in front of lense... with don't have one since - years *guessing wild arround* 21:52 < jsaw> ah 21:52 < owl> but - boooooooooooook - you don't know which fscking muscles are being used when you're horsebackriding... fsck! i guess i won't sleep because of this hurting muscles 21:53 < jsaw> yes I do know 21:53 < jsaw> (but looooooooong time ago) 21:54 < owl> *hrhr* the half of the channel-users here seems to be or at least were horseback-riders... 21:55 < jsaw> hehe - *hrhr* but you're the lucky one still doin' it 21:55 < owl> yeah ;) 21:56 < jsaw> comes time comes daughter wants horse... 21:56 < th> lol 21:56 < jsaw> hi th 21:56 < th> hi jsaw 21:56 < owl> lucky? - boook. not today. i felt like the first person doing horseback riding... cuz i had a teacher today who is bein taught by "barockpferdereiter" - --> like in the wiener hofreitschule... 21:56 < owl> hehehe. yep. ;) 21:56 < jsaw> ach du sch* 21:57 < owl> jsaw: ? 21:57 * jsaw would prefer werstern 21:58 < owl> the joke is - he said, that i don't have to learn much, cuz there are just "kleinigkeiten" to correct... and i felt like i was doing nothing correct *ggg* 21:58 < owl> hehe. yeah. western is relaxing i guess... but i like jumping (oh yeah, i'm not just liking it - i'm loving it) - and i like dressage, too ;) 21:59 < jsaw> depends. I mean, western is, is, is, well think how much work it is to keep a few cattles together... 22:00 < jsaw> very fast stops, turns. also jumping over obstacles... 22:00 < owl> yep, that for sure. but - i dunno. dressage is - art... at least if you're really an experienced rider 22:01 < jsaw> admitted 22:01 < owl> hm? 22:03 < jsaw> well, different styles, one is art, the other one is cross-country (both with different kinds of experience levels) 22:03 < jsaw> I prefer cross-country (though dressage wouldn't hurt me either I guess) 22:03 < owl> yeah... cross-country is great imho, too. 22:10 < owl> https://www.altaescuela.de aa afaik the institute where my teacher is being taught. 22:13 < owl> believe me... it would be great to do a training at the wiener hofreitschule *dreaming* 22:13 < jsaw> hmm 22:14 < owl> hm? 22:15 < jsaw> (consenting and dreamy "hmm") 22:16 < owl> hehe. k ;) 22:25 < netrunner> waaah, I knew it. he's a gxxxx user 22:26 < owl> gxxxx` 22:27 -!- nookie [~nookie@M327P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 22:27 < owl> ? 22:28 < jsaw> one x missing? 22:29 < jsaw> ah, mr. osburn 22:42 -!- pla^net [~sack@dynadsl-080-228-95-061.ewetel.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:03 -!- sack^ [~sack@dynadsl-080-228-94-220.ewetel.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:09 -!- sack^ [~sack@dynadsl-080-228-94-220.ewetel.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:12 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M359P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 23:13 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8C7DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:19 -!- pla^net [~sack@dynadsl-080-228-95-061.ewetel.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:22 < rxr> wow - I buy a DVB-T card - and? The first thing to do is hacking the kernel ... 23:23 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8CD8A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:29 -!- nookie [~nookie@M327P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:39 < th> can anyone enlighten me about the difference between __cxa_pure_virtual and __pure_virtual? 23:40 < th> or at least tell me how to satisfy an __pure_virtual undefined reference? 23:44 < rxr> hm - prdownload...sf.net: 23:44 < rxr> Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 3240 bytes) in Unknown on line 0 23:44 < rxr> wow 23:44 < rxr> I want the file - damn 23:44 < th> libstdc++ coming with gcc323 does not seem to provide __pure_virtual 23:44 < rxr> hm - now it works again ... 23:45 < owl> gn8 23:46 < th> this seems to be part of the gcc3 ABI change 23:46 < th> hmpf 23:52 < th> where can i find declaration of __cxa_pure_virtual? --- Log closed Thu Jul 22 00:00:39 2004