--- Log opened Wed Jul 21 01:32:52 2004
01:32 < rxr> test even
01:33 < fake> ...
01:33 < rxr> good logging again ...
01:33 < rxr> so services running - logs reopened ... 
01:33 < rxr> time to go to bed ...
01:33 < fake> rxr: sleep well...
01:33 < th> rxr: cya
01:37 < zenlunatic> i still don'ty understand the diff between a build kit and custom distro
01:37 < th> zenlunatic: the one thing is a distribution and the other is not
01:38 < fake> zenlunatic: output of a distribution build kit is a binary cd
01:38 < fake> output of a customized distribituion is one pc with a customized distribution on it
01:38 < th> (which can be called "distribution")
01:38 -!- [anders] [~anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux
01:38 < fake> anders!
01:38 < [anders]> lo fake
01:39 < fake> what's up on the island?
01:39 < mnemoc> zenlunatic: a distribution is something you can distrubute, the product of a gentoo build is not distributable as a finished product
01:39 < zenlunatic> oh so rock is to build your own distro but not your own desktop
01:39 < [anders]> fake: not much.. Blair being a pompus git still..
01:39 < fake> *G*
01:39 < [anders]> zenlunatic: ehrm, you get desktop env's with it
01:39 < mnemoc> zenlunatic: exactly
01:40 < fake> zenlunatic: you can install the distro you build on any pc you designed it for ;)
01:40 < mnemoc> zenlunatic: you can build a distro for you desktop
01:40 < th> zenlunatic: yes. but it's a trivial approach to build a desktop-distribution which brings you the desktop
01:40 < fake> *LOL*
01:40 < mnemoc> :D this is the best help desk in the world
01:40 < th> ack
01:40 < rxr> hi [anders] !
01:41 < fake> *** zenlunatic [ ... ] (buffer overrun)
01:41 < [anders]> lo rxr
01:41 < zenlunatic> >
01:41 < zenlunatic> ?
01:41  * [anders] confess to being a pure Debian house a.t.m.
01:42 < mnemoc> zenlunatic: is that question about fake comment or about something else?
01:42  * fake pure ROCK/FreeBSD 4.10/OpenBSD 3.5
01:42 < mnemoc> fake, as pure as usual 
01:43 < fake> as pure as a fake can be, eh ?
01:43 < mnemoc> yeah
01:43  * fake can't stand any other distros any more
01:43 < rxr> oh damn
01:43 < [anders]> I just got tired of how things were around 1.4/1.5/1.7 times
01:44 < zenlunatic> mnemoc fak
01:44 < [anders]> went back to using SuSE on the stinkpad, that sucked even worse.. Tried Debian and got stuck..
01:44 < fake> [anders]: give 2.0/2.1 (!) a try, many *great* new features and corrections
01:44 < [anders]> works for me.. Will take a look at ROCK again sometime
01:45 < fake> [anders]: shall i upload a live cd image for you? ;)
01:45 < [anders]> When I have a dual A64 box with 2G RAM..
01:45 < fake> hm... that reminds me... i could upload it...
01:45 < th> rxr: what's up?
01:46 < [anders]> fake, nak, not necessary.. I'll build one when I get time to tinker with it
01:46 < rxr> I think I managed to connect to rwo irc servers
01:46 < rxr> and now I'm puzzled with the irssi interface to disconnect one ...
01:46 < th> rxr: thats no problem
01:46 < fake> [anders]: if it doesn't work, direct bug reports to me 
01:46 < th> rxr: /server
01:46 < th> rxr: /disconnect XYZ
01:47 < [anders]> fake: ack.. will do.. might take a while before I get there though
01:47 < th> rxr: where you get XYZ from /server output
01:47 < rxr> ah jups
01:47 < rxr> ah - better
01:47 < fake> [anders]: ./scripts/Config -> livecd -> ./scripts/Download -> ./scripts/Build-Target -> Create-ISO -> burn -> fun?
01:48 < [anders]> fake: need to download all the stuff first.. I got some other work stuff to learn / play with first..
01:48 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o rxr] by ChanServ
01:48 < [anders]> fake: take a look at staf.sourceforge.net/index.php
01:49 < fake> [anders]: looks like a science for itself ... ;)
01:49 < [anders]> fake: it is.. it has an embedded python engine
01:50 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o rxr] by rxr
01:50 < [anders]> fake: I've been writing xml for staf to do some of our automated testing. 
01:51 < [anders]> first I have to get it working with the old scripts, then we migrate functionality from the old scripts into the staf xml files
01:51 < rxr> th: thanks
01:51 < [anders]> will take a looong time to do
01:52 < fake> [anders]: looks like it will pay off...
01:53 < [anders]> fake: if you gander at the pdf docs they have, you'll see that staf/stax is pretty cool..
01:54 < [anders]> the best thing is that it is distributed
01:54 < [anders]> after a fashion
01:54 < fake> [anders]: ... i have a pdf phobia
01:54 < [anders]> fake: shame, their docs are very detailed and good.
01:55 < [anders]> if you decide to take a closer look at it for some reason, get over that phobia
01:55 < rxr> ok - so more checked and _now_ I'm finally off into bed
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01:56  * [anders] is heading bed-ways as well..
01:56 < fake> [anders]: gn8
01:57 < fake> greetings to the queen
01:58 < [anders]> fake: *lol* if I ever got close to the palace, they'd arrest me thinking I was a terror-rist
01:58 < fake> [anders]: good boy. ;)
02:15 < th> ok i'm off now too
02:15 < th> cya tomorro
02:22 < fake> hehe
02:22  * fake reading irc logs from 2002
02:22 < fake> mostly in german
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02:48 < fake> this is fun!
02:48 < fake> boy, am i an idiot *g*
02:51 < jsaw> :)))
03:04 < fake> 18:01 < huebi> Please ignore This line. It's just to raise my stats. :-))
03:04 < fake> *ROFLMAO*
03:18 < rxr> remoin
03:18 < jsaw> already that late?
03:19 < rxr> jsaw: no - just in the middle of the night
03:19 < rxr> I just debugged my kernel before I wanted to close my eyes
03:19 < jsaw> which kernel, that on your computer or that in your brain?
03:19 < rxr> and since I found a work around for my ALSA iBook sound capture problem I wanted to wrie a mail about that I sshed again ...
03:22 < fake> 15:28 < armijn> fake: just give up your sleep.
03:22 < fake> 15:29 < fake> armijn: what sleep ?
03:23 < fake> rehi rxr
03:23 < rxr> I guess I should take the time tomorrow and send my alsa snd-powermac.c fixes queue upstream *g*
03:23  * fake reading very old IRC logs as bedside stories
03:23 < fake> today...
03:23 < rxr> so not only people with my ROCK CD get into the fun of them - but also Yellowdog and Debian users can stop filling mailing lists *g*
03:31 < fake> 16:10 < clifford> fake: wo bist' hin? ich bin auf einmal allein auf der indy ..
03:31 < fake> 16:10 < clifford> und ich fuercht' mich doch im dunkeln auf einer fremden maschiene ..
03:31 < fake> 16:11 < huebi> clifford: die bits sind nicht gefaehrlich, nur die Bytes
03:31 < fake> 16:13 < Be-El> schneidet einfach das MSB ab, dann verlieren die anderen den mut
03:35 < fake> ;)
03:36  * fake falling asleep
03:42  * rxr moved the iBook out of the bad - and dimmes the backlight from 1/16 to 0 to have aboslutely no light to sleep ...
03:42 < rxr> s/bad/bed
03:42 < rxr> even
03:42 < rxr> damn - need sleep
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07:47 < netrunner> moin
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08:25 < netrunner> hm. ffmpeg fixed?
08:36 < netrunner> I'm too stupid to create patches :(
08:40 < netrunner> aha, fixed.
08:49 < blindy> 5B/away
08:49 < blindy> moin
08:49 < Lorini> moin
08:56 < netrunner> moin Lorini & blindi
08:57 < netrunner> damn, now I have robotik tomorrow and fix rock packages, clean my desk ...
09:00 < blindy> set priorities
09:01 < blindy> 1) fix ROCK 2) clean desk 3) ... n) Robotik
09:02 < netrunner> :)
09:02 < netrunner> already fixed ffmpeg. now cleaning.
09:03 < netrunner> arg, shouldn't do that. found unpaied bills :(
09:06 < blindy> ouch
09:21 < owl>  rofl. my "driving teacher" forgot that i had driving lesson at 0900 am today *hrhr*
09:36 < netrunner> owl: do you take driving lessons before or after psychotherapy? ;)
09:37 < owl> netrunner: huh? why? it's independent
09:38 < [anders]> hoi hoi
09:39 < owl> hi [anders] 
09:39 < [anders]> lo owl.. how's you?
09:41 < blindy> moin [anders]
09:41 < [anders]> lo blindy 
09:41 < [anders]> blindy: how's it hanging?
09:42 < owl> [anders]: hm. so-so. thx. you?
09:42 < [anders]> owl: I'm alright.. eating breakfast now.. cornflakes and bananas
09:44 < owl> hm. k. i can't eat... cuz i've got problems with my stomach again
09:44 < [anders]> owl: ouch
09:44 < owl> yep
09:46 < blindy> [anders]: I feel stupid >_< I seem to be unable to close a RACK again (side)
09:47 < netrunner> owl: uhm ... nice feeling to have people driving around that are mentally mad ;)
09:48 < netrunner> interesting. Download -cfg bla -list-missing outputs numbers.
09:49 < owl> netrunner: :p mentally mad doesn't mean, that i'm agressive. i'm just driving _normal_ ;)
09:51 < daja77> where normal means like a woman
09:51  * daja77 hides
09:54 < owl> how does women drive? 
09:56 < netrunner> hey, am I stupid?
09:56 < netrunner> could anyone please try a scripts/Download -list-missing
09:56 < netrunner> I only get numbers here. I have a fix, but want to be sure it is not only here.
09:57 < daja77> it is not here, but it is a bit outdated
09:58 < netrunner> daja77: I think it is related to the download restructuring, do you already have this?
09:59 < daja77> no perhaps not, i have no current tree on this machine
10:02 < netrunner> ah, it's cliffords fault [2004071520332807287]
10:03 < daja77> ^^
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11:03 < blindy> *yawns*
11:04 < daja77> hi blindy 
11:05 < blindy> hi daja77 
11:07 < blindy> watchin a few Sun Machines doing all the work is no fun >_<
11:08 < blindy> and all IRC channels I'm on are dead ._<
11:09 < daja77> no nethack?
11:10 < blindy> no motivation for nethack atm
11:10 < blindy> too many stupid deaths last weex
11:10 < blindy> week
11:10 < daja77> you could read usenet
11:11 < th> or dilbert
11:12 < dsoul> or write some fake bugreports for debian ;P
11:12 < daja77> hm why fake bug reports ^^
11:13 < th> or color the house of your neighbar pink.
11:13 < owl> stupid deaths?
11:16 < dsoul> daja77 to slow the release of new version :P
11:17 < blindy> th: dilbert is one of my "daily-check" links
11:17 < th> blindy: same here
11:17 < blindy> owl: (YA)SD: like having a first-class ass-kicking character wielding a cockatrice corpse and then falling into a pit, being turned to stone in the progress
11:17 < daja77> dsoul: I do not kick someone who is already down
11:17 < th> blindy: i put a SSI include link on my bookmark page giving the link to the current dilbert
11:18 < owl> hmm. k.
11:18 < blindy> th: I just have a script with around 12 comics that opens each comic in a new mozilla-tab
11:18 < th> blindy: 'k
11:20 < dsoul> daja77 lol
11:32 < netrunner> ah, nice, my build now entered stage 2 :)
11:32 < blindy> hmm
11:32 < daja77> blindy: still bored you could read that and the attached fun below http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/49255
11:32 < blindy> rxr sending mail-dups
11:41 < netrunner> this stupid smap does not sm ap :(
11:46 < netrunner> hm, have an orphaned smap.cfg :/
11:46 < netrunner> how stupid can one be? virusalert@info (0,6K) VIRUS (W32/Netsky-P) IN MAIL TO YOU (from <?@[127.0.0.1]>) 
11:46 < daja77> clifford wrote sth about updating sm
11:48 < netrunner> yes. that's what I did. but my wild cross-mounting all dirs between my machines somehow placed this smap.cfg im my tree in which there is an option not to run sm ap
11:48 < SMP> netrunner: AV companies desperately trying to speard their advertisements that way
11:49 < netrunner> SMP: it came from the uni virus scanner
11:50 < SMP> sure. does it have an 'advertisement' for the virus scanner in there?
11:51 < SMP> i.e. listing the name of the product or manufacturer
11:52 < daja77> how would use av sw from ppl who spam
11:52 < daja77> who even
11:53 < SMP> everyone does?
11:53 < daja77> hm that would include me ;)
11:54 < SMP> ever asked yourself why so many AV products send so many useless virus warnings`
11:54 < SMP> ?
11:54 < SMP> because these are useful for the recipent?
11:54 < SMP> no! because it's a cheap way to spam!
11:54 < daja77> no I never asked myself, because I am not even affected by the viruses
11:55 < SMP> you never got a warning claiming you sent an infected message when some worm just used your address as the sender?
11:56 < daja77> i got those messages and ignored them
11:56 < SMP> see
11:56 < SMP> strictly speaking these are just spam
11:56 < th> daja77: so you could say u are not affected by spam cause you can ignore it?
11:57 < daja77> not really
11:57  * SMP currently having his company's domain under joe-job attack :-\
11:57 < th> so you can't say you are not affected by the virus-spam-mails
11:57 < th> joe-job?
11:57 < th> can he hack windows programs?
11:58 < daja77> by the viruses itself, the messages i got, perhaps I was not precise on this
11:58 < SMP> joe-job = spammer using fake adresses under that domain as sender of their messages
11:59 < SMP> i.e. postmaster gets hundreds of double-bounces each day
11:59 < netrunner> SMP: no ad, just a link to the rgb (rechnerbetriebsgruppe)
11:59 < SMP> netrunner: u-hu
12:00 < netrunner> SMP: prooves their skills ;)
12:00 < SMP> netrunner: sure does ...
12:01 < netrunner> oh, just wanted to complain that 2-gcc34 fails, but I had no space left ;)
12:01 < th> SMP: so the mails have rctps to non existent mailboxes?
12:01 < netrunner> uh, oh, the default of 800M tempfs just got bursted by gcc3.4.1
12:02 < SMP> th: no, I get bounces to non-existent mailboxes
12:03 < SMP> (yeah, that _does_ also mean I get "mails have rctps to non existent mailboxes", but that's not precise enough ;> )
12:19 < th> SMP: so - would you get these bounces when you mail server would not accept these mails at smtp?
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12:21 < SMP> th: stop pushing it, I know what you're going to say
12:21 < th> SMP: ;)
12:21 < valentin> re. damn thunderstorm
12:21 < th> valentin: will qsc send a new modem?
12:22 < SMP> th: it's not that easy, the outer relay doesn't have the user database. otherwise  I could just to recipient verify with qmail-ldap
12:22 < th> SMP: why does the outer relay not have the user database?
12:22 < valentin> th: don't know yet - have to find out customer support number.
12:23 < SMP> th: because I haven't replicated the LDAP directory over to it
12:23 < SMP> th: because that LDAP directory simply does not exist for the legacy adresses
12:23 < th> valentin: is that qdsl home?
12:23 < valentin> yes
12:24 < th> valentin: Infoline für Privatkunden: 01801 73 75 43
12:24 < valentin> thanks
12:26 < th> SMP: oh - when it doesn't exist it's no "outer relay does not have" issue.
12:26 < th> SMP: it's more a "i don't know my rcpt addresses" issue ;-]
12:27 < SMP> well the internal mail server has it. not in LDAP of course
12:28 < th> i see
12:29 < SMP> I _could_ apply some ugly inverted match regular expression badrcpto voodoo, but ...
12:29 < th> but your are going to put it into ldap soon?
12:29 < SMP> no
12:30 < th> you could replicate the user database to the outer relay
12:30 < SMP> it's not useful for qmail unless it's LDAP
12:31 < th> . o O ( ... )
12:32 < th> SMP: that's not true.
12:32 < th> SMP: in fact. even LDAP data is not useful for (vanilla) qmail
12:33 < th> SMP: so you need to patch some architecture for data-access into qmail
12:33 < SMP> are you trying to be smarter than me? :->
12:34 < th> just trying to stop your qmail-check ignorance.
12:34 < SMP> as a matter of fact, qmail-ldap and LDAP is the only way it could possibly work _right now_
12:35 < th> i wonder where you get your facts from.
12:35 < SMP> send patch
12:36 < th> sure
12:37 < th> if you will look at it in detail
12:39 < SMP> I will
12:39 < th> .oO(that was easy)
12:39 < th> just a second
12:41 < blindy> back
12:41 < SMP> th: I never said I wouldn't look at it, you just never asked :>
12:42 < th> might be
12:43 < th> SMP: .oO(somehow postfix comes to my mind) ;-p
12:43 < SMP> stdio.h *brr*
12:43 < SMP> bbl
12:44 < th> SMP: it's just for DEBUG() it'll vanish
12:44 < SMP> of course
12:51  * netrunner destroying the future of 2 chickens
12:51 < netrunner> afterwards I think I'll have to boot the ac, getting hot in here.
13:01 < netrunner> damn, 900MB is also not enough. building w/o tempfs
13:52 < blindy> netrunner: for xfree I need 1GB
13:55 < netrunner> blindy: until now I went fine with 800MB. survived several builds.
14:01 < blindy> xfree linked statically?
14:01 < blindy> no, never :)
14:15 < blindy> hmm
14:16 < blindy> looks like some companies here in Berlin are closed because of sudden richdom
14:18 < netrunner> arg, why is the preferences dir of firefox called .phoenix? is this configurable?
14:20 < fake> moin
14:20 < netrunner> hi fake 
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14:24 < ringo> moin
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14:33 < blindy> netrunner: you have the source, so yes, it is :)
14:34  * ringo is a little bored 
14:34 < Lorini> moin moin
14:34  * blindy is bored a lot
14:34 < blindy> moin Lorini 
14:34 < ringo> moin Lorini 
14:35 < blindy> hi fake 
14:35 < ringo> blindy: thx I feel better :)
14:36 < fake> hi ho
14:36  * fake has a headache...
14:36 < fake> too much sparkly wine :(
14:36 < ringo> fake: You have  a life ;)
14:37 < fake> ringo: me and a friend of mine partied a bit because i finished my exams succesfully, we celebrated by compiling him a new pentium-m optimised ROCK build ;))
14:38 < ringo> Nice going fake ! Congrats
14:38 < fake> thanks ...
14:39 < ringo> What study did you do exactly ? 
14:39  * ringo curious
14:40 < fake> uff, let me leo
14:40 < ringo> ok ... nejoy your afterparty ... 
14:40 < fake> IT specialist
14:40 < ringo> N1ce
14:40 < fake> (leo is a translation page german/englisch)
14:40 < fake> IT specialist / Application Development
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14:41 < ringo> App dev. lekker (what they say in Holland)
14:41 < fake> lecker = tasty 
14:42 < ringo> I am messing databases up in php for a non g33k ... 
14:42 < ringo> Its nice they have no clue what you are doing ... 
14:42 < blindy> well, I have no clue what I am doing here, either :)
14:42 < blindy> still, I'm getting paid for it
14:43 < fake> either is fine ;)
14:43 < ringo> blindy: N1ce, I know I have make an access database on the net before friday ...
14:43 < ringo> Else I can do it in my own vacation 
14:44 < th> ringo: you'd refuse making access db's
14:45 < ringo> I know he made it himself, and now he wants it on the net ... export via odbc 
14:46 < ringo> I tried codecharer etc not fun me want to php myself ... 
14:46  * ringo puts a sock in his mouth
14:47 < th> uhh "php". /me shuts up.
14:48 < ringo> Can make also make it in perl/mysql /me like perl a lot more
14:48 < ringo> but I am waiting for 15.00
14:55 < fake> packe groff fails with optimiziation pentium-m...
15:04 < owl>  hi fake . how was your presentation?
15:07 < owl> http://the-null.de.vu/misc/private/tiere/hamsters btw
15:08 < netrunner> owl: you know what this little button with the flower on your camera is about? 
15:09 < owl> hoeh???
15:09 < netrunner> owl: you haven't noticed that the pictures are fuzzy? I mean _all_?
15:09 < th> exactly
15:10 < netrunner> owl: cameras usually have a macro mode. and usually the symbol for this is a flower.
15:10 < owl> i have... but the most of the pictures are... cuz the camera is not really good... (it's not mine...)
15:10 < owl> a cheap one, too???
15:11 < netrunner> probably. if it's digital, it might be hidden in a menu
15:11 < owl> hmm. i tried differend "focus models", too and so on... --> no chance to change it to good quality
15:12 < netrunner> then you were too close :)
15:12 < owl> hm... about 1 metre distance? i wanted to see them ;p
15:13 < netrunner> I'd say you should be >0.5m away. depends on the lense.
15:13 < netrunner> that's why zoom functions were invented:)
15:13 < owl> yeah... hrn
15:24 < netrunner> huh? after aborting a build and restarting it my config is deleted??
15:25 < jsaw> re
15:26 < jsaw> netrunner: yep, if config.* files stay in the top directory, your config is lost...
15:29 < netrunner> hm. had to restart the build anyway, forgot to disable stage 9
15:32 < jsaw> owl, next time simply take a "Leselupe" (reading glass?) and put it in front of the objective...
15:36 < blindy> netrunner: yes, that happens quite frequently
15:37 < blindy> mostly if you a) start two builds in one physical directory b) start ./scritpts/Config twice or c) generally do dual work on one tree
15:40 < ringo>   /quit
15:41 < netrunner> ringo: you ought to say /quit now
15:43 < th> /quit
15:43 < th> hmm
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15:55 < mnemoc> moin
15:55 < th> hi mnemoc 
15:55 < mnemoc> hi th
15:56 < netrunner> hi mnemoc 
15:56 < mnemoc> hi netrunner 
15:56 < netrunner> either I cook some coffee now or my eyes power down.
15:58 < mnemoc> netrunner: did you sleep last night?
16:05 < blindy> mnemoc: I think they powered down already :)
16:06 < mnemoc> it seem so
16:06 < netrunner> almost. now cooking coffee :)
16:06 < netrunner> yes I slept. even 7h. maybe it's the learning stuff.
16:16 < mnemoc> is your brain toasted as rene's modem?
16:16 < netrunner> probably.
16:20 < valentin> mnemoc:my modem, not rene's .... :(
16:20 < mnemoc> oh
16:20  * blindy going home
16:20 < blindy> bye
16:20 < mnemoc> cu blindy 
16:41 < th> valentin: what does qsc say?
16:53 < valentin> can't phone them from work - or damn pbx does not allow me to set off calls to 01801 numbers from my room
16:54 < th> valentin: it's 0900h to 1800h only.
17:02 < valentin> .oO
17:19 < netrunner> http://www.8ung.at/sprittwoch/sprittforfun/knightrider.html (german)
17:19 < netrunner> clifford seems to be starting a monster reference build :)
17:43 < th> did he stop voting
17:43 < th> ?
17:46 < netrunner> no, he votetd pro on a huge amount of patches in submaster, which iirc happens when he applies them.
17:47 < th> yes. and my question was if he is ready with voting already
17:48 < netrunner> last pro vote was an hour ago, so probably yes.
17:48 < rxr> re
17:48 < netrunner> hi rxr
17:48 < netrunner> this gcc34 shared file thing is annoying.
17:51 < th> hi rxr
17:59  * SMP needs to make a byte[] from a String to feed it into System.Security.Cryptography.MD5
17:59 < SMP> but there doesn't seem to be an easy way
18:01 < SMP> so I'll do it right in the database where I need the hash anyway. hehehe
18:04 < mnemoc> SMP: i did a function to do that
18:04 < mnemoc> and binary on the database
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19:38 < netrunner> gcc 341 does not compile :/
19:38 < netrunner> /tmp/ccCwkFMi.s:448: FATAL: Can't write javax/naming/.libs/LimitExceededException.o: Invalid argument
19:40 < netrunner> oh ...  No space left on device
19:40 < th> i just wanted to ask that.
19:41 < netrunner> I wonder which device. all have >5GB free.
19:42 < netrunner> oh, wonderful. tempfs got reenabled. grmpf
19:42 < mnemoc> i just wanted to ask that :D
19:42 < netrunner> if it wasn't that I disabled it before ...
20:31 < netrunner> we should watch the fs usage during build, write it into the caches and give out recommendations according to the package selection
20:39 < rxr> netrunner: are you smoking?
20:40 < netrunner> rxr: ?
20:41 < netrunner> rxr: do I interpret your comment correctly that you disagree with my proposal? 
20:42 < netrunner> interesting: http://menuetos.org/
20:44 < rxr> netrunner: yes - I think this with neither work reliable - nor do we really want that ;-)
20:44 < rxr> full assembler written - urgs
20:44 < rxr> there is more portable and abstracted (e.g. no assembler) stuff out ...
20:44 < rxr> skyos and co
20:45 < netrunner> rxr: it could be a hint. better than guessing a value and then retrying the 1h gcc34 build.
20:45 < netrunner> looks nice though
20:46 < rxr> do you know skyos?
20:48 < rxr> I think we should not offer this tmpfs thing btw
20:48 < rxr> build with is is just plain stupid ...
20:55 < netrunner> rxr: no, it improves performance imho. at some point, when many small files are compiled, it is noticeable.
20:56 < netrunner> rxr: I can run benchmarks on this issue next week if you like.
20:56 < netrunner> (maybe I am wrong though. at least it makes my hdd last longer :)
21:26 < rxr> but maybe your RAM dies earlier then ... *g*
21:28 < Freak> http://raible.org/item/209 (german)
21:28 < Freak> (and solely interesting for german-speaking ppl I fear)
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21:33 < nonroot> hi
21:33 < nonroot> anyone have seen mike?
21:33 < nonroot> alguien ha visto a mike?
21:37 < rxr> not in the last hours
21:37 < nonroot> ok thx
21:37 < rxr> maybe he joins in a bit later ..
21:37 < nonroot> ok
21:37 < nonroot> nonroot from gigax was here
21:37 < nonroot> ;)
21:43 < netrunner> this osbourne guy on rlml is so strange, I need to hold me back not to flame him.
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21:44 < rxr> netrunner: calm down - let new users ask questions ....
21:48 < owl> jsaw: hahaha.
21:51 < jsaw> re
21:51 < jsaw> owl: ?
21:51 < rxr> hi jsaw 
21:51 < jsaw> hi rxr
21:51 < owl> jsaw: leselupe... in front of lense... with don't have one since - years *guessing wild arround*
21:52 < jsaw> ah
21:52 < owl> but - boooooooooooook - you don't know which fscking muscles are being used when you're horsebackriding... fsck! i guess i won't sleep because of this hurting muscles
21:53 < jsaw> yes I do know
21:53 < jsaw> (but looooooooong time ago)
21:54 < owl> *hrhr* the half of the channel-users here seems to be or at least were horseback-riders... 
21:55 < jsaw> hehe - *hrhr* but you're the lucky one still doin' it
21:55 < owl> yeah ;)
21:56 < jsaw> comes time comes daughter wants horse...
21:56 < th> lol
21:56 < jsaw> hi th
21:56 < th> hi jsaw 
21:56 < owl> lucky? - boook. not today. i felt like the first person doing horseback riding... cuz i had a teacher today who is bein taught by "barockpferdereiter" - --> like in the wiener hofreitschule... 
21:56 < owl> hehehe. yep. ;) 
21:56 < jsaw> ach du sch*
21:57 < owl> jsaw: ?
21:57  * jsaw would prefer werstern
21:58 < owl> the joke is - he said, that i don't have to learn much, cuz there are just "kleinigkeiten" to correct... and i felt like i was doing nothing correct *ggg*
21:58 < owl> hehe. yeah. western is relaxing i guess... but i like jumping (oh yeah, i'm not just liking it - i'm loving it) - and i like dressage, too ;)
21:59 < jsaw> depends. I mean, western is, is, is, well think how much work it is to keep a few cattles together...
22:00 < jsaw> very fast stops, turns. also jumping over obstacles...
22:00 < owl> yep, that for sure. but - i dunno. dressage is - art... at least if you're really an experienced rider
22:01 < jsaw> admitted
22:01 < owl> hm?
22:03 < jsaw> well, different styles, one is art, the other one is cross-country (both with different kinds of experience levels)
22:03 < jsaw> I prefer cross-country (though dressage wouldn't hurt me either I guess)
22:03 < owl> yeah... cross-country is great imho, too. 
22:10 < owl> http://www.altaescuela.de  aa afaik the institute where my teacher is being taught. 
22:13 < owl> believe me... it would be great to do a training at the wiener hofreitschule *dreaming*
22:13 < jsaw> hmm
22:14 < owl> hm?
22:15 < jsaw> (consenting and dreamy "hmm")
22:16 < owl> hehe. k ;)
22:25 < netrunner> waaah, I knew it. he's a gxxxx user
22:26 < owl> gxxxx`
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22:27 < owl> ?
22:28 < jsaw> one x missing?
22:29 < jsaw> ah, mr. osburn
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23:22 < rxr> wow - I buy a DVB-T card - and? The first thing to do is hacking the kernel ...
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23:39 < th> can anyone enlighten me about the difference between __cxa_pure_virtual and __pure_virtual?
23:40 < th> or at least tell me how to satisfy an __pure_virtual undefined reference?
23:44 < rxr> hm - prdownload...sf.net:
23:44 < rxr> Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 3240 bytes) in Unknown on line 0
23:44 < rxr> wow
23:44 < rxr> I want the file - damn
23:44 < th> libstdc++ coming with gcc323 does not seem to provide __pure_virtual
23:44 < rxr> hm - now it works again ...
23:45 < owl> gn8
23:46 < th> this seems to be part of the gcc3 ABI change
23:46 < th> hmpf
23:52 < th> where can i find declaration of __cxa_pure_virtual?
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