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01:55 < demian> hi
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03:58 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 2.0.2 released! http://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html
03:58 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Mon Jun 28 12:17:40 2004]
03:58 [Users #rocklinux]
03:58 [ [anders]        ] [ DieTerkE] [ jsaw    ] [ mnemoc   ] [ rxr   ] [ th      ] 
03:58 [ anonymous-coward] [ dsoul   ] [ kasc    ] [ netcrow  ] [ rxr_  ] [ togg    ] 
03:58 [ blindy          ] [ esden   ] [ lewellyn] [ netrunner] [ SerWou] [ true    ] 
03:58 [ daja77          ] [ fake    ] [ luckz   ] [ owl      ] [ SMP   ] [ valentin] 
03:58 [ De_Elsasser     ] [ Freak   ] [ mistik1 ] [ rolla    ] [ tfing ] [ zzoc    ] 
03:58 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 30 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 30 normal]
03:58 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Mon Aug  4 00:11:35 2003
03:58 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify?  your IRC nick is how people know you.  http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
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06:36 < Jarmizz> Hello
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08:25 < blindy> moin
08:25 < dsoul> hi blindy 
08:26 < DeElsasser> moin moin
08:26 < DeElsasser> hi dsoul, blindy
08:26 < dsoul> hi DeElsasser 
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09:08 < DeElsasser> is there someone?
09:09 < daja77> hi DeElsasser 
09:09 < DeElsasser> heidi ho daja77
09:10 < daja77> :D
09:10 < DeElsasser> can you say me why postgres not want to start whit root?
09:11 < daja77> no
09:11 < DeElsasser> houah, I can believe it ;)
09:11 < daja77> but i remember it should be started as user postgres
09:14 < blindy> moin daja77 
09:14 < daja77> hi blindy 
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09:25 < blindy> moin valentin 
09:27 < valentin> moin blindy
09:28 < blindy> valentin: If I can't get the machine done today I can maybe dump it on someone else whose projects are being delayed
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15:39 < tcr> Could anyone using gcc34 telling me his/her LD version?
15:39 < tcr> s,telling,tell,
15:41 < tcr> gcc34 calls ld with an option `--as-needed', but the version of binutils that comes within ROCK 2.02 does not support this option.
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15:43 < tcr> moin daja77.
15:45 < blindy> moin moin
15:45 < fake> moin
15:47 < blindy> moin fake
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15:47  * blindy cancelling his participation at DevMeeting
15:47 < fake> tcr: a rathr new one ;)
15:47 < tcr> fake: ./exec ld --version | head -1
15:47 < fake> ./exec ?
15:48 < tcr> Doesn't your IRC client support the /exec command?
15:48 < fake> less binutils.desc ?
15:48 < fake> 2.15.91.0.1
15:48 < fake> blindy that's sad to hear...
15:48 < tcr> Blubb. fake.
15:49 < tcr> Does your one have --as-needed?
15:49 < fake>   --as-needed                 Only set DT_NEEDED for following dynamic libs if used
15:49 < fake>   --no-as-needed              Always set DT_NEEDED for following dynamic libs
15:50 < tcr> Eh..
15:50 < blindy> fake: well, rxr doesn't attend, valentin neither and I still have lot of work for tomorrow
15:53 < tcr> I think I turned up being crazy
15:53 < tcr> Either there's some ghost in my machine or I'm crazy. 
15:57 < fake> tcr: or both!
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16:04 < madtux> hi.
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16:04 < blindy> moin madtux 
16:05 < tcr> fake: Could you upload a GEM pkg for your binutils version, please?
16:06 < madtux> blindy!
16:06 < fake> tcr: sure
16:06 < tcr> fake: I may know why mine doesn't have --as-needed: I built it using gcc-2. When I try using gcc-3.2 I get a kernel oops... >_<
16:07 < tcr> So the likelihood grows quite a lot that the root of all my evil lays within gcc 3.2
16:07 < tcr> On the other hand, gcc shouldn't be able to bring the kernel oopsing.
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16:09 < fake> tcr: oh, i built your gcc 3.4 with binutils 2.15.91.0.2
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16:09 < fake> tcr: upload running
16:11 < fake> 55 %
16:14 < fake> tcr: hyy
16:14 < fake> athj
16:14 < fake> argh
16:14 < fake> tcr: http://f4k3.net/~fake/binutils-2.15.91.0.2.gem
16:15 < tcr> Ah, nice. Thanks, you're my saviour!
16:19 < tcr> fake: Btw. I couldn't any information about any backward incompatibility of gcc34 on gcc.gnu.org. Where did you read about that?
16:20 < fake> tcr: in the changelog
16:20 < tcr> All I found there was that the SPARC ABI changed.
16:22 < tcr> Got binutils.
16:28 < madtux> ping rolla 
16:31  * blindy going home
16:31 < blindy> bye
16:32 < tcr> bye blindy
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17:09 < daja77> re
17:11 < fake> re
17:12 < daja77> hi fake
17:12 < fake> hi daja77 
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17:32 < owl_> re
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17:44 < mnemoc> moin!
17:44 < _NULL_> hi mnemoc 
17:46 < mnemoc> hi owl
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20:03 < fake> hi clifford!
20:03 < daja77> hi clifford 
20:04 < SerWou> Hello guys
20:04 < clifford> hi gang.
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20:20 < zzoc> fake: hi
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21:37 < _NULL_> re
21:40 < daja77> hi _NULL_ 
21:40 < _NULL_> hi daja77 ! :)
21:40 < _NULL_> swimming is soooooooooo relaxing ;)))
21:41 < zzoc> _NULL_: hi greets from "chaostreff"
21:42 < _NULL_> zzoc: hi. thx. greets back *eg*
21:42 < zzoc> _NULL_: yes swimming is relaxing but i have "sonnebrand" since monday
21:42 < _NULL_> hehehe ;p
21:42 < daja77> sunburn
21:43 < zzoc> _null_: "wenn man vor lauder maedchen nachgucken die sonnencreme vergisst"
21:43 < _NULL_> zzoc: *hrhr* pp. 
21:44 < zzoc> daja77: sunburn? really?
21:46 < daja77> think so
21:46 < zzoc> _NULL_: we are sitting in the garden riht now. 
21:46 < _NULL_> zzoc: "we"? 
21:46 < zzoc> _NULL_: four nice boys lol
21:46 < _NULL_> zzoc: rofl ;) enjoy it *vbeg*
21:47 < zzoc> _NULL_: div0, steron, polly and zzoc
21:47 < _NULL_> hm. the only perso i "know" is you ... *cough*
21:47 < _NULL_> person even
21:48 < zzoc> _NULL_: and thats good enoegh
21:48 < zzoc> ough
21:48 < zzoc> hehe
21:48 < zzoc> _NULL_: did you hear anything about capchaos?
21:49 < _NULL_> zzoc: nope. why?
21:49 < _NULL_> i spoke with him some days ago... but just "hi" or so
21:50 < zzoc> _NULL_: hmm he works in an "tinfishfactory"
21:50 < zzoc> at night
21:51 < _NULL_> a pub or so?
21:51 < zzoc> _NULL_: hmm? no an "nahrungsmittelfactory" alright?
21:52 < zzoc> _NULL_: i think i would call to him this or next week
21:53 < _NULL_> i c.
21:53 < zzoc> _NULL_: hmm he makes zivieldienst at the moment
21:53 < _NULL_> well, send him greetings from me, please ;)
21:54 < zzoc> _NULL_: k
21:54 < _NULL_> zzoc: yeah, i know. he told me
21:59 < daja77> fake: I'll start now
22:01 < fake> daja77: so you're here in 4 hours?
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22:01 < daja77> hope in less than 4
22:02 < zzoc> fake: hi!!
22:02 < fake> zzoc: hi
22:03 < zzoc> fake: whats on?
22:03 < fake> daja77: ok - i'll be here, just use the doorbell, theres noone else here now
22:03 < fake> zzoc: south park ;)
22:03 < _NULL_> hi fake 
22:03 < daja77> guess phoning you is easier
22:04 < fake> daja77: oh, yes, you're right
22:05 < daja77> fake: i#ll take lenting and will see if i find it :)
22:06 < fake> daja77: good luck, don't hestitate to call and ask for directions...
22:06 < daja77> ok cu
22:06 < fake> safe (-and) trip!
22:06 < _NULL_> bye daja77 
22:34 < mnemoc> rehi
23:06 -!- You're now known as rxr
23:06  * fake Sportfreunde Stiller - Wir lange sollen wir noch warten?
23:07 < fake> rxr: hi! 
23:07 < fake> rxr: will you attend?
23:07 < rxr> nope
23:07 < rxr> hi, btw
23:07 < th> yea - hi rxr
23:08 < fake> rxr: thats not good
23:08 < clifford> rxr: why? it really would be great to have you at the meeting.
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23:08 < th> oh - hi cliff ;>
23:10 < clifford> hi th.
23:12 < rxr> hi th
23:12 < rxr> hi clifford 
23:12 < rxr> clifford: you got my rock-devel mail?
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23:16 < _NULL_> gnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarf. re
23:16 < clifford> do you mean the "I retire from active ROCK Linux maintainship" one?
23:16 < _NULL_> hi clifford 
23:16 < clifford> hi _NULL_
23:18 < SMP> oh hi clifford. at fake's already?
23:18 < clifford> SMP: yep. pseudonative is almost finished.
23:18 < fake> wee!
23:19  * fake watches clifford so he doesn't produce bad code...
23:19 < SMP> I guess it's about time that I upload some info about TeamSpeak sessions to the wiki ...
23:20 < fake> SMP: i don't want to use teamspeak...
23:20 < SMP> fake: what else?
23:20 < fake> SMP: SIP? i have ser running on my server, it provides conferencing 
23:20 < SMP> hahaha
23:20 < th> fake: no one wants. but there does not seem to be a better alternative
23:20 < SMP> it's not gonna work. trust me
23:21 < fake> SMP: why not?
23:22 < clifford> NFS sucks! arrrgwl!
23:22 < fake> ;)
23:22 < SMP> fake: packet filters. crappy SIP clients
23:22 < fake> SMP: VPN to my server on the net - the rest is your problem ;)
23:23 < fake> oh, and SJPhone is closed source, but usable
23:23 < SMP> I don't want to jump through hoops, I want it to just work. SIP isn't "just works"
23:25 < fake> SMP: you soud strange today
23:25 < fake> ;))
23:25 < fake> sounds like you gave up
23:26 < SMP> I sound like every day when I ramble about how badly most VoIP stuff sucks
23:31 < fake> SMP: i have 'writing a usable SIP UA' on my todo for the next ... say... 15 years ;)
23:36 < SMP> ok, anyone up for a test? point you teamspeak client to conference.rocklinux.de
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