--- Log opened Fri Aug 06 00:00:28 2004
00:04 < rxr> clifford: yes that mail
00:05 < rxr> fake: you propose a closed source product to replace another closed source product ...
00:06 < fake> rxr: i propse a open protocol instead of a propriertary protocol.
00:08 < rxr> have fun with it
00:17 < rxr> i see the bit interest ...
00:17  * rxr -> off into bed ...
00:17 < rxr> cu
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03:52 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 2.0.2 released! http://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html
03:52 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Mon Jun 28 12:17:40 2004]
03:52 [Users #rocklinux]
03:52 [ [anders]        ] [ DieTerkE] [ jsaw    ] [ mnemoc   ] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin] 
03:52 [ anonymous-coward] [ dsoul   ] [ kasc    ] [ netcrow  ] [ SMP  ] [ zzoc    ] 
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03:52 [ clifford        ] [ fake    ] [ Lorini  ] [ owl      ] [ th   ] 
03:52 [ daja77          ] [ Freak   ] [ luckz   ] [ rolla    ] [ togg ] 
03:52 [ DeElsasser      ] [ hannes_ ] [ mistik1 ] [ rxr      ] [ true ] 
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08:13 < blindy> moin
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09:26 < th> moin
09:29 < th> is it known that electricfence fails in Pentium-2 optimized build?
09:29 < th> After the last test, it should print that the test has PASSED.
09:29 < th> ./eftest
09:29 < th>   Electric Fence 2.0.5 Copyright (C) 1987-1998 Bruce Perens.
09:29 < th> make: *** [all] Segmentation fault (core dumped)
09:55 < SMP> always failed for me on 2.6 kernels
10:04 < th> ahh. my build-host has 2.6 since last builds
10:19 < dsoul> th try newer version
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10:47 < cutio> hi
10:48 < dsoul> hi cutio 
10:50 < cutio> I just installed rocklinux and got a problem with curl. If I want to update my mirror list it fetches the list from rocklinux.net(works) and then trys to get the DOWNTEST file.. Well that doesnt work. Even a manually curl --verbose http://<url>/DOWNTEST gives no output. The ethernet card is working correct: i can ping and surf with lynx. Any ideas?
10:51 < cutio> rocklinux 2.0.1
10:52 < th> cutio: this happens when using scripts/Download?
10:52 < cutio> yes
10:52 < th> INFO: Auto-detecting best mirror ...
10:52 < th> INFO: Downloading mirror-list from www.rocklinux.net.
10:52 < th> ?
10:53 < th> can you give some output?
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10:55 < cutio> Yes, It fetches the mirror-list and then trys to get the downtest file from some servers. But that just gives an error. If i try to fetch those files manually in a console using curl --verbose it gives no output and just does nothing
10:55 < th> cutio: show the error please
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10:56 < cutio> just that INFO: Testing <Austria - gd.tuwien.ac.at (HTTP)> ...error
10:57 < th> vor all test candidates?
10:57 < cutio> yes
10:57 < th> have you set some proxy settings?
10:57 < cutio> no
10:57 < th> have you set proxie-settings in lynx?
10:57 < cutio> no
10:57 < cutio> just configuration via dhcp and adding a nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf
10:57 < th> lets see...
10:59 < th> what do you get by doing: wget -O - http://ftp.sh.cvut.cz/MIRRORS/rock/ROCK-2.0/DOWNTEST
10:59 < cutio> wget isnt installed.. a moment
11:00 < th> no wget?
11:00 < th> what target is that?
11:00 < cutio> nope, i did the server install with minimum stuff
11:00 < th> i see
11:01 < cutio> that wget -O ... works
11:02 < th> so you get 64k of X's?
11:02 < cutio> yes
11:02 < th> what does "curl http://ftp.sh.cvut.cz/MIRRORS/rock/ROCK-2.0/DOWNTEST" do?
11:03 < cutio> hmm i got 64k of X's with curl now
11:03 < th> so how did you test with curl before?
11:03 < cutio> maybe I had a typo.. hmm
11:03 < th> .oO(perhaps curl depends on wget, hehe)
11:04 < cutio> *sic*
11:04 < cutio> :) thanks
11:04 < th> no matter
11:04 < cutio> testing the mirrors works too
11:04 < cutio> ok :>
11:06 < cutio> but shouldnt a curl --verbose tell me that something is wrong(in this case wget missing)
11:06 < th> i'm quite sure curl does NOT need wget. that was a joke
11:06 < cutio> huh?
11:07 < cutio> but why does it work now?
11:07 < th> i don't know what was wrong there.
11:07 < th> try moving the wget binary away and retest.
11:07 < th> ...with curl
11:07 < cutio> hmm works with removed wget.. strange
11:08 < th> try removing the whole wget package again.
11:08 < cutio> i did
11:08 < th> hmm i see
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12:38 < _NULL_> hi
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14:35 < fake> moin
14:38 < valentin> moin
14:38 < Lorini> hi
14:38 < valentin> how's devmeeting ?
14:39 < fake> valentin: stefan fiedler just arrived, currently we're still hacking pseudonative
14:51 < fake> SMP: Ping
15:00 < SMP> fake: I'm sort of here
15:11 < fake> SMP: we're just disussing the topics
15:12 < fake> SMP: which do you want to join?
15:16 < fake> ms
15:16 < fake> arrr
16:20 < mnemoc> moin
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16:31 < owl_> re
16:32 < daja77> hi owl_ 
16:34 < owl_> hi daja77
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16:38 < owl_> hi fake_ 
16:38 < fake> huh ??
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16:39 < owl_> oaeh. hi clifford_ *g*
16:39 < clifford_> hi owl_ ;-)
16:39 < daja77> it's not clifford it's a fake!!11
16:39 < owl_> how are you?
16:40  * fake is schizo ;)
16:40 < owl_> rofl. 
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18:05 < demian> hi
18:05 < fake> hi!
18:11 < owl_> GAAAAAAAH
18:11 < owl_> hi demian 
18:13 < demian> fake, owl_ 
18:27 < owl_> please, someone could explain me, what an "outlook element" is?
18:28 < fake> no idea
18:28 < owl_> *hrhrhrhr* well. 
18:28 < demian> what context ?
18:29 < owl_> demian: "type of file"
18:29 < demian> dunno. maybe outlook windows mail client uses them.. dunno.
18:29 < fake> mime type = outlook element?
18:30 < owl_> demian: yeah. it does... but it's like - "sh** of an elephant is an "elephant-element""
18:30 < owl_> fake: nope. "type of .msg-file" -> windows explorer
18:31 < fake> owl: wtf do you need to know for?
18:32 < owl_> fake: my bf's company uses outlook. i rm -rf ~/Mail by accident and wanted my mails... bf saved the mails in .msg-format. -> /me tries to import somehow those .msg-files
18:33 < fake> owl: thunderbird should be able to do that
18:33 < owl_> thunderbird ?
18:34 < fake> mozilla.org
18:35 < owl_> hm. k. thx. 
18:48 < fake> ja, sicher
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18:52 < owl_> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. re
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19:02 < th> fake: is there a list of topics online?
19:03 < fake> th: sure - see svn.clifford.at/wiki
19:03 < fake> th: you can even edit it
19:03 < th> fake: good - thanks
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20:48 < mnemoc> rehi
20:48 < rxr> hi mnemoc 
20:49 < mnemoc> hi rxr
20:49 < mnemoc> how are you?
20:50  * mnemoc trying to run X :) first time in... 5 years
20:50 < rxr> mnemoc: oh - good
20:53 < mnemoc> first discourage, you can't have fb and X/nvidia :(
20:53 < rxr> hm - yes the nvidia stuff ia all a bit flunky ...
20:54 < mnemoc> second discourage, xdm fail to start X (after auth) becasue 'trouble geting network configuration'
20:58 < mnemoc> devmeeting begins todday?
21:02 < hannes_> hi 
21:02 < hannes_> rxr: when du you plan to get the u30s?
21:02 < hannes_> otherwise i will check how much delivery cost
21:12 < rxr> hannes_: see querry
21:12 < daja77> hi hannes_ 
21:12 < rxr> -r
21:12 < mnemoc> hi daja77 
21:13 < daja77> hi mnemoc 
21:13 < mnemoc> rxr: you never commented me the 'distro' definition i show(ed?) you :\
21:13 < hannes_> hi daja77 
21:14 < daja77> hannes_: i got sth for you ;)
21:14 < hannes_> daja77: my shirt =)
21:14 < daja77> yep
21:14 < hannes_> daja77: are you in ingolstadt right now?
21:15 < daja77> yep
21:15 < hannes_> daja77: at fake?
21:15 < daja77> yep :)
21:15 < fake> no, he's halucinating
21:15 < fake> *g*
21:15 < daja77> ^^
21:15 < hannes_> hi fake!
21:15 < fake> hi!
21:17 < hannes_> fake: would it be possible to come by tomorrow?
21:20 < fake> hannes_: sure - you can watch AND listen your v100 build in no time ;)
21:21 < hannes_> fake: i'll come after work, not later than 9pm
21:23 < _NULL_> hi hannes_ !
21:24 < hannes_> hi _NULL_ 
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21:34 < demian> hi
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22:33 < _NULL_> re
22:43 < mnemoc> hi owl
22:51 < _NULL_> hi mnemoc 
23:00 < mnemoc> which are the minimal packages of gnome?
23:00 < mnemoc> (in addtion to gtk and freinds)
23:03 < fake> mnemoc: make a pkgsel!
23:04 < fake> menmoc: then i can use it for a gnome livecd ;)
23:04 < mnemoc> :p
23:05 < mnemoc> i have pkgsel-addins for x11, gtk+ and xfce4
23:05 < mnemoc> my target merge them according to Config options
23:06 < fake> mnemoc: can you make a xfce-based pkgsel out of it?
23:06 < fake> mnemoc: i'd love it
23:06 < mnemoc> yes
23:07 < mnemoc> i have a 'poor-desktop' config based on it
23:09 < mnemoc> i want to add a gnome plugin for a build for the laptop
23:10 < fake> mnemoc: please just sm add it to misc/pkgsel and give it a nice name
23:10 < mnemoc> as a template? minimal+xfce4, minimal+gnome?
23:11 < daja77> *restarting_hppa_crossbuild*
23:12 < fake> mnemoc: exactly
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23:14 < madtux> hello.
23:14 < daja77> maximal-gnome ^^
23:14 < _NULL_> hi madtux 
23:14 < daja77> hi madtux 
23:14 < madtux> hello Sandra and Daniel.
23:14 < mnemoc> madtux!
23:14 < fake> hallo mike!
23:14 < mnemoc> can you name me the minimal gnome packages (i already have gtk+)
23:14 < fake> minimal+gnome = depenency+hell
23:15 < daja77> oxymoron
23:15 < madtux> hello fake and mnemoc 
23:15 < mnemoc> a template must have dependencies fixed ;)
23:15 < madtux> well if u guys ask me.. minimal target is everything but minimal.
23:15 < mnemoc> you minimal, not mine ;)
23:16 < madtux> mnemoc: its NOT my minimal... i submitted fixes for it and never got applied.
23:16 < mnemoc> oh
23:16 < fake> mnemoc: do you still use ipvsadm ?
23:16 < mnemoc> no :\
23:17 < fake> mnemoc: okay
23:18 < mnemoc> fake: are you having troubles with it?
23:18 < mnemoc> i used it with keepalived _Very_ successfully
23:18 < fake> no
23:18 < fake> i just noticed it's pretty outdated
23:18 < mnemoc> :p
23:18 < fake> ;(
23:18 < fake> ;)
23:18 < mnemoc> my whole repo is outdated
23:18 < fake> i mea
23:19 < fake> there is a 2.4 and a 2.6 version
23:19 < fake> which makes it a candidate for pkgforking
23:20 < mnemoc> i have not played with forking (and 2.1) yet, fell free to improve it if you need it quite
23:21 < fake> mnemoc: i don't, and the bug in flyspray is assigned to clifford, so i just sent a comment
23:24 < mnemoc> i'll try to do some updates this week, at least to support forked linux :)
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