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--- Log opened Fri Aug 06 00:00:28 2004 00:04 < rxr> clifford: yes that mail 00:05 < rxr> fake: you propose a closed source product to replace another closed source product ... 00:06 < fake> rxr: i propse a open protocol instead of a propriertary protocol. 00:08 < rxr> have fun with it 00:17 < rxr> i see the bit interest ... 00:17 * rxr -> off into bed ... 00:17 < rxr> cu 00:26 -!- _NULL_ [~owl@D71f8.d.pppool.de] has quit ["leaving"] 03:52 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.198.75.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 03:52 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 2.0.2 released! https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 03:52 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Mon Jun 28 12:17:40 2004] 03:52 [Users #rocklinux] 03:52 [ [anders] ] [ DieTerkE] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin] 03:52 [ anonymous-coward] [ dsoul ] [ kasc ] [ netcrow ] [ SMP ] [ zzoc ] 03:52 [ blindy ] [ esden ] [ lewellyn] [ netrunne1] [ tfing] 03:52 [ clifford ] [ fake ] [ Lorini ] [ owl ] [ th ] 03:52 [ daja77 ] [ Freak ] [ luckz ] [ rolla ] [ togg ] 03:52 [ DeElsasser ] [ hannes_ ] [ mistik1 ] [ rxr ] [ true ] 03:52 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 32 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 32 normal] 03:52 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Mon Aug 4 00:11:35 2003 03:53 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 7 secs 03:53 -!- valentin_ [~valentin@p213.54.198.75.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:08 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@pD9E4F257.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:08 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD9E4F4DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 04:08 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy 04:09 -!- rxr [~rene@p213.54.240.211.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:10 -!- valentin [~valentin@p213.54.240.211.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:02 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: blindy, tfing, jsaw, anonymous-coward, [anders], rolla, owl, clifford, DieTerkE, Freak, (+15 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 05:05 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: luckz 05:05 -!- Netsplit over, joins: luckz 05:07 -!- esden [~esdentem@apeiron-group.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:07 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD9E4F257.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:07 -!- valentin_ [~valentin@p213.54.198.75.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:07 -!- clifford [~fake@pD9E4DEF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:07 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8D365.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:07 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-213-023-189-004.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:07 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.57] has joined #rocklinux 05:07 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-3-174.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 05:07 -!- DeElsasser [~eric@ANancy-110-1-23-198.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 05:07 -!- owl [~owl@217.160.141.61] has joined #rocklinux 05:07 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:07 -!- anonymous-coward [~nwalsh@shaggy.internode.com.au] has joined #rocklinux 05:07 -!- lewellyn [~matt@adsl-64-142-12-231.sonic.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:07 -!- mistik1 [~mistik1@ool-44c02704.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:07 -!- Freak [freak@helena.bawue.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:07 -!- fake [~fake@rapidnetworks.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:07 -!- DieTerkE [~dieterke@217.71.123.237] has joined #rocklinux 05:07 -!- [anders] [~anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux 05:07 -!- zzoc [zzoc@62.80.25.188] has joined #rocklinux 05:07 -!- SMP [~stefanp@vanessa.wronline.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:07 -!- rolla [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-237.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:07 -!- th [th@thzn.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:07 -!- dsoul [darksoul@pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl] has joined #rocklinux 05:08 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 05:11 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has joined #rocklinux 05:12 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: hannes_ 05:20 -!- Netsplit over, joins: luckz 05:22 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has joined #rocklinux 06:13 -!- vladimir [~vladimirj@pool-138-89-122-33.nwrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #rocklinux 06:13 -!- vladimir [~vladimirj@pool-138-89-122-33.nwrk.east.verizon.net] has left #rocklinux [] 08:11 -!- Elsasser [~eric@ANancy-110-1-16-119.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 08:13 < blindy> moin 08:29 -!- DeElsasser [~eric@ANancy-110-1-23-198.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:26 < th> moin 09:29 < th> is it known that electricfence fails in Pentium-2 optimized build? 09:29 < th> After the last test, it should print that the test has PASSED. 09:29 < th> ./eftest 09:29 < th> Electric Fence 2.0.5 Copyright (C) 1987-1998 Bruce Perens. 09:29 < th> make: *** [all] Segmentation fault (core dumped) 09:55 < SMP> always failed for me on 2.6 kernels 10:04 < th> ahh. my build-host has 2.6 since last builds 10:19 < dsoul> th try newer version 10:37 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-4-128.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 10:47 -!- cutio [zx80@xerver.org] has joined #rocklinux 10:47 < cutio> hi 10:48 < dsoul> hi cutio 10:50 < cutio> I just installed rocklinux and got a problem with curl. If I want to update my mirror list it fetches the list from www.rocklinux.net(works) and then trys to get the DOWNTEST file.. Well that doesnt work. Even a manually curl --verbose https://<url>/DOWNTEST gives no output. The ethernet card is working correct: i can ping and surf with lynx. Any ideas? 10:51 < cutio> rocklinux 2.0.1 10:52 < th> cutio: this happens when using scripts/Download? 10:52 < cutio> yes 10:52 < th> INFO: Auto-detecting best mirror ... 10:52 < th> INFO: Downloading mirror-list from www.rocklinux.net. 10:52 < th> ? 10:53 < th> can you give some output? 10:54 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-3-174.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:54 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 10:55 < cutio> Yes, It fetches the mirror-list and then trys to get the downtest file from some servers. But that just gives an error. If i try to fetch those files manually in a console using curl --verbose it gives no output and just does nothing 10:55 < th> cutio: show the error please 10:56 -!- valentin_ is now known as valentin 10:56 < cutio> just that INFO: Testing <Austria - gd.tuwien.ac.at (HTTP)> ...error 10:57 < th> vor all test candidates? 10:57 < cutio> yes 10:57 < th> have you set some proxy settings? 10:57 < cutio> no 10:57 < th> have you set proxie-settings in lynx? 10:57 < cutio> no 10:57 < cutio> just configuration via dhcp and adding a nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf 10:57 < th> lets see... 10:59 < th> what do you get by doing: wget -O - https://ftp.sh.cvut.cz/MIRRORS/rock/ROCK-2.0/DOWNTEST 10:59 < cutio> wget isnt installed.. a moment 11:00 < th> no wget? 11:00 < th> what target is that? 11:00 < cutio> nope, i did the server install with minimum stuff 11:00 < th> i see 11:01 < cutio> that wget -O ... works 11:02 < th> so you get 64k of X's? 11:02 < cutio> yes 11:02 < th> what does "curl https://ftp.sh.cvut.cz/MIRRORS/rock/ROCK-2.0/DOWNTEST" do? 11:03 < cutio> hmm i got 64k of X's with curl now 11:03 < th> so how did you test with curl before? 11:03 < cutio> maybe I had a typo.. hmm 11:03 < th> .oO(perhaps curl depends on wget, hehe) 11:04 < cutio> *sic* 11:04 < cutio> :) thanks 11:04 < th> no matter 11:04 < cutio> testing the mirrors works too 11:04 < cutio> ok :> 11:06 < cutio> but shouldnt a curl --verbose tell me that something is wrong(in this case wget missing) 11:06 < th> i'm quite sure curl does NOT need wget. that was a joke 11:06 < cutio> huh? 11:07 < cutio> but why does it work now? 11:07 < th> i don't know what was wrong there. 11:07 < th> try moving the wget binary away and retest. 11:07 < th> ...with curl 11:07 < cutio> hmm works with removed wget.. strange 11:08 < th> try removing the whole wget package again. 11:08 < cutio> i did 11:08 < th> hmm i see 12:38 -!- _NULL_ [~owl@D711a.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:38 < _NULL_> hi 13:11 -!- You're now known as rxr 13:55 -!- _NULL_ [~owl@D711a.d.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 14:35 < fake> moin 14:38 < valentin> moin 14:38 < Lorini> hi 14:38 < valentin> how's devmeeting ? 14:39 < fake> valentin: stefan fiedler just arrived, currently we're still hacking pseudonative 14:51 < fake> SMP: Ping 15:00 < SMP> fake: I'm sort of here 15:11 < fake> SMP: we're just disussing the topics 15:12 < fake> SMP: which do you want to join? 15:16 < fake> ms 15:16 < fake> arrr 16:20 < mnemoc> moin 16:31 -!- owl_ [~owl@D711a.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:31 < owl_> re 16:32 < daja77> hi owl_ 16:34 < owl_> hi daja77 16:36 -!- fake_ [~fake@pD9E4D466.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:38 < owl_> hi fake_ 16:38 < fake> huh ?? 16:39 -!- fake_ is now known as clifford_ 16:39 < owl_> oaeh. hi clifford_ *g* 16:39 < clifford_> hi owl_ ;-) 16:39 < daja77> it's not clifford it's a fake!!11 16:39 < owl_> how are you? 16:40 * fake is schizo ;) 16:40 < owl_> rofl. 16:53 -!- clifford [~fake@pD9E4DEF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:39 -!- owl__ [~owl@D711a.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:39 -!- owl_ [~owl@D711a.d.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:56 -!- owl__ is now known as owl_ 18:05 -!- demian [allyourbas@pD9E0A22E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:05 < demian> hi 18:05 < fake> hi! 18:11 < owl_> GAAAAAAAH 18:11 < owl_> hi demian 18:13 < demian> fake, owl_ 18:27 < owl_> please, someone could explain me, what an "outlook element" is? 18:28 < fake> no idea 18:28 < owl_> *hrhrhrhr* well. 18:28 < demian> what context ? 18:29 < owl_> demian: "type of file" 18:29 < demian> dunno. maybe outlook windows mail client uses them.. dunno. 18:29 < fake> mime type = outlook element? 18:30 < owl_> demian: yeah. it does... but it's like - "sh** of an elephant is an "elephant-element"" 18:30 < owl_> fake: nope. "type of .msg-file" -> windows explorer 18:31 < fake> owl: wtf do you need to know for? 18:32 < owl_> fake: my bf's company uses outlook. i rm -rf ~/Mail by accident and wanted my mails... bf saved the mails in .msg-format. -> /me tries to import somehow those .msg-files 18:33 < fake> owl: thunderbird should be able to do that 18:33 < owl_> thunderbird ? 18:34 < fake> mozilla.org 18:35 < owl_> hm. k. thx. 18:48 < fake> ja, sicher 18:49 -!- owl_ [~owl@D711a.d.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 18:52 -!- owl_ [~owl@D711a.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:52 < owl_> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. re 18:52 -!- owl_ is now known as _NULL_ 18:56 -!- kasc_ [kasc@dsl-213-023-204-253.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:02 < th> fake: is there a list of topics online? 19:03 < fake> th: sure - see svn.clifford.at/wiki 19:03 < fake> th: you can even edit it 19:03 < th> fake: good - thanks 19:09 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-213-023-189-004.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:09 -!- kasc_ is now known as kasc 19:41 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8C211.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:58 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8D365.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:00 -!- demian [allyourbas@pD9E0A22E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["leaving"] 20:48 < mnemoc> rehi 20:48 < rxr> hi mnemoc 20:49 < mnemoc> hi rxr 20:49 < mnemoc> how are you? 20:50 * mnemoc trying to run X :) first time in... 5 years 20:50 < rxr> mnemoc: oh - good 20:53 < mnemoc> first discourage, you can't have fb and X/nvidia :( 20:53 < rxr> hm - yes the nvidia stuff ia all a bit flunky ... 20:54 < mnemoc> second discourage, xdm fail to start X (after auth) becasue 'trouble geting network configuration' 20:58 < mnemoc> devmeeting begins todday? 21:02 < hannes_> hi 21:02 < hannes_> rxr: when du you plan to get the u30s? 21:02 < hannes_> otherwise i will check how much delivery cost 21:12 < rxr> hannes_: see querry 21:12 < daja77> hi hannes_ 21:12 < rxr> -r 21:12 < mnemoc> hi daja77 21:13 < daja77> hi mnemoc 21:13 < mnemoc> rxr: you never commented me the 'distro' definition i show(ed?) you :\ 21:13 < hannes_> hi daja77 21:14 < daja77> hannes_: i got sth for you ;) 21:14 < hannes_> daja77: my shirt =) 21:14 < daja77> yep 21:14 < hannes_> daja77: are you in ingolstadt right now? 21:15 < daja77> yep 21:15 < hannes_> daja77: at fake? 21:15 < daja77> yep :) 21:15 < fake> no, he's halucinating 21:15 < fake> *g* 21:15 < daja77> ^^ 21:15 < hannes_> hi fake! 21:15 < fake> hi! 21:17 < hannes_> fake: would it be possible to come by tomorrow? 21:20 < fake> hannes_: sure - you can watch AND listen your v100 build in no time ;) 21:21 < hannes_> fake: i'll come after work, not later than 9pm 21:23 < _NULL_> hi hannes_ ! 21:24 < hannes_> hi _NULL_ 21:33 -!- demian [allyourbas@pD9E0A22E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:34 < demian> hi 21:43 -!- _NULL_ [~owl@D711a.d.pppool.de] has quit ["bitz - DSL - schneller download *yipeeeeeeh*"] 21:52 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@213.240.184.88] has quit ["leaving"] 22:10 -!- Elsasser [~eric@ANancy-110-1-16-119.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:31 -!- demian [allyourbas@pD9E0A22E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["leaving"] 22:33 -!- _NULL_ [~owl@fortuna7.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:33 < _NULL_> re 22:43 < mnemoc> hi owl 22:51 < _NULL_> hi mnemoc 23:00 < mnemoc> which are the minimal packages of gnome? 23:00 < mnemoc> (in addtion to gtk and freinds) 23:03 < fake> mnemoc: make a pkgsel! 23:04 < fake> menmoc: then i can use it for a gnome livecd ;) 23:04 < mnemoc> :p 23:05 < mnemoc> i have pkgsel-addins for x11, gtk+ and xfce4 23:05 < mnemoc> my target merge them according to Config options 23:06 < fake> mnemoc: can you make a xfce-based pkgsel out of it? 23:06 < fake> mnemoc: i'd love it 23:06 < mnemoc> yes 23:07 < mnemoc> i have a 'poor-desktop' config based on it 23:09 < mnemoc> i want to add a gnome plugin for a build for the laptop 23:10 < fake> mnemoc: please just sm add it to misc/pkgsel and give it a nice name 23:10 < mnemoc> as a template? minimal+xfce4, minimal+gnome? 23:11 < daja77> *restarting_hppa_crossbuild* 23:12 < fake> mnemoc: exactly 23:13 -!- madtux [~mike@ip180-133-122-200.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 23:14 < madtux> hello. 23:14 < daja77> maximal-gnome ^^ 23:14 < _NULL_> hi madtux 23:14 < daja77> hi madtux 23:14 < madtux> hello Sandra and Daniel. 23:14 < mnemoc> madtux! 23:14 < fake> hallo mike! 23:14 < mnemoc> can you name me the minimal gnome packages (i already have gtk+) 23:14 < fake> minimal+gnome = depenency+hell 23:15 < daja77> oxymoron 23:15 < madtux> hello fake and mnemoc 23:15 < mnemoc> a template must have dependencies fixed ;) 23:15 < madtux> well if u guys ask me.. minimal target is everything but minimal. 23:15 < mnemoc> you minimal, not mine ;) 23:16 < madtux> mnemoc: its NOT my minimal... i submitted fixes for it and never got applied. 23:16 < mnemoc> oh 23:16 < fake> mnemoc: do you still use ipvsadm ? 23:16 < mnemoc> no :\ 23:17 < fake> mnemoc: okay 23:18 < mnemoc> fake: are you having troubles with it? 23:18 < mnemoc> i used it with keepalived _Very_ successfully 23:18 < fake> no 23:18 < fake> i just noticed it's pretty outdated 23:18 < mnemoc> :p 23:18 < fake> ;( 23:18 < fake> ;) 23:18 < mnemoc> my whole repo is outdated 23:18 < fake> i mea 23:19 < fake> there is a 2.4 and a 2.6 version 23:19 < fake> which makes it a candidate for pkgforking 23:20 < mnemoc> i have not played with forking (and 2.1) yet, fell free to improve it if you need it quite 23:21 < fake> mnemoc: i don't, and the bug in flyspray is assigned to clifford, so i just sent a comment 23:24 < mnemoc> i'll try to do some updates this week, at least to support forked linux :) 23:39 -!- Imon [Blackhole@pD9587370.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux --- Log closed Sat Aug 07 00:00:43 2004