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[12:18] <clifford> this is a test message for rockbot ..
[12:19] <daja77> nice
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[12:25] <clifford> http://www.rocklinux.net/irclog/rocklinux.log.20040823
[12:25] <daja77> ah for logging
[12:27] <clifford> yup. that's better than someone private irc logs ..
[12:27] <daja77> yes
[12:28] <clifford> !spoke daja77
[12:28] <clifford> hmm.. eggdrop f*ckt5!3s ... wie ear das nochmal ..
[12:28] <clifford> !lastspoke daja77
[12:29] <daja77> dunno about eggdrops
[12:29] <daja77> i wrote my bots with perl ...
[12:30] <daja77> oh freenode is broken
[12:30] <clifford> !seen daja77
[12:30] <clifford> !lastseen daja77
[12:31] <daja77> should be !lastspoke ...
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[12:35] <clifford> rockbot: have you seen daja77 ?
[12:35] <clifford> hmm..
[12:35] <clifford> !seen daja77
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[12:37] <clifford> rockbot: have you seen daja77 ?
[12:37] <clifford> !seen daja77
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[12:39] <clifford> !seen daja77
[12:40] <clifford> hmm.. it works if I write the bot privetaly ...
[12:41] <daja77> strange
[12:42] <daja77> maybe it does not listen on_public or sth
[12:42] <clifford> ok - in fact I don't care right now.
[12:42] <clifford> It's writing its log - that's the important thing.
[12:43] <daja77> yep
[12:47] <netrunnner> !seen daja77
[12:47] <daja77> >_<
[12:48] <netrunnner> just a test, I noticed that you really didn't talk between bot join and command issued by clifford all the time ;)
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[13:09] <De_Elsasser> hi all, have everyboddy some experience with Mandrake 10.0?
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[14:51] <th> moin
[14:52] <daja77> moin th
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[16:10] <rolla_> e
[16:10] <rolla_> re
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[16:11] <daja77> wb
[16:11] <rolla> thanks
[16:13] <mnemoc_> moin!
[16:15] <daja77> hi mnemoc_ 
[16:15] <rolla> mnemoc_: 
[16:15] <rolla> 2 golds in tennis ;)
[16:16] <mnemoc_> yeah
[16:16] <mnemoc_> amazing
[16:16] <rolla> :)
[16:17] <mnemoc_> first two olimpic gold medals in chilean history :)
[16:17] <rolla> very cool
[16:17] <rolla> must be a big party there :)
[16:52] Action: netrunnner eating an chilean apple
[16:59] <mnemoc_> =)
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[17:00] <madtux> hello.
[17:02] <daja77> hi madtux 
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[17:02] <madtux> hello Daniel.
[17:12] <daja77> *GNA*
[17:13] <daja77> almost no patch from sm applies due that fscking ? flag
[17:20] <De_Elsasser> hi daja77
[17:21] <daja77> hi De_Elsasser 
[17:21] <De_Elsasser> is it normal that trunk is no new?
[17:22] <daja77> hm?
[17:22] <De_Elsasser> rev 3776
[17:23] <daja77> use the new url ...
[17:24] <De_Elsasser> hein?
[17:24] <daja77> svn://www.rocklinux.net/rock-linux/trunk ...
[17:24] <De_Elsasser> i do: svn up
[17:25] <De_Elsasser> how can I change
[17:25] <daja77> you should do a new co
[17:30] <De_Elsasser> rontutju
[17:31] <De_Elsasser> rontuetjue (is better)
[17:31] <daja77> O_o
[17:35] <De_Elsasser> had you tried Mandrake 10.0?
[17:37] <clifford> daja77: I have fixdiff files for those and will apply them once my ref build has finished.
[17:38] <madtux> yo clifford 
[17:39] <De_Elsasser> halli hallo clifford
[17:39] <clifford> hi gang..
[17:41] <daja77> De_Elsasser: nope why should I?
[17:42] <De_Elsasser> for curiosity ;)
[17:42] <daja77> clifford: is it possible that smap fetches the fixdiffs too, so that this stuff applies?
[17:43] <De_Elsasser> I don't know how to install this if I have scsi cdrom...
[17:43] <daja77> *yuck*
[17:43] <clifford> currently there is no way to upload fixdiff files to submaster, so there is no defined place from where smap could download them. It is on my todo to improve this.
[17:43] <daja77> nice :)
[17:44] Action: clifford is going home now ..
[17:44] <daja77> cu
[17:44] <clifford> cu guys
[17:44] Action: daja77 should go soon too
[17:47] <De_Elsasser> the next knoppix
[17:47] <daja77> what are you talking about
[17:48] <De_Elsasser> to try different distribution
[17:48] <De_Elsasser> try, no use ;)
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[19:21] <fake> moin
[19:22] <daja77> hi fake 
[19:25] <Ragnar0k> moin moin
[19:25] Action: netrunnner always reads fake with bavarian tounge ;)
[19:26] Action: SMP launching the newly built kde 3.3 in Xnest ...
[19:28] <daja77> nice :)
[19:32] <SMP> the kde idiots partially freed my Windows key again, so I can map key combos with it again
[19:32] <Ragnar0k> *lol*
[19:33] <SMP> but I still don't find a way to not make pressing just the Windows key pop up the K-menu
[19:33] <netrunnner> I bet this is patented and disabled ;)
[19:34] <Ragnar0k> *hrhr*
[19:37] <daja77> d'oh booting 2.6 in qemu is much slower
[19:45] <th> daja77: with acpi?
[19:47] <daja77> standard rock config
[19:47] <th> daja77: that's not an answer
[19:48] <daja77> it is, it is just requiring to know our standard config, which i do not unfortunately ...
[19:49] <th> hmm you could try if its faster with acpi=off appended
[19:49] <daja77> oh was faster this time
[19:50] <daja77> guess it was due the not mounted /dev/shm, images with the empty fstab bug ...
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[20:16] <th> anyone knows how to use the line-in of a bttv hauppauge?
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[20:17] <tcr> moin all
[20:17] <tcr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/50307
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[20:28] <SMP> the Plastik theme sure looks nice ..
[20:41] <netrunnn1r> tcr: what about including the mentioned patch in rock? maybe as second binary, because it seems to make probs with normal cd burning (according to the article)
[20:41] Nick change: netrunnn1r -> netrunner
[20:42] <tcr> netrunner, ??? 
[20:42] <netrunner> tcr: the link you posted.
[20:42] <tcr> Either you're speaking of something I can't remember of having read in that article, or you don't get what it's about.. :)
[20:43] <netrunner> is about cdrecord. and it mentions a patch by mandrake, that add's dvd support to cdrecord.
[20:43] <tcr> Yep. 
[20:46] <tcr> netrunner, Hmm, I didn't actually post the link as a matter for rock, just for possible personal interests.
[20:47] <tcr> netrunner, OTOH, integrating that mentioned patch into ROCK may very well be an option to kick schilling's ass for his obnoxious behaviour (YMMV).
[20:49] <SMP> that's not an option
[20:49] <SMP> we're not in the ass-kicking business
[20:50] <Ragnar0k> sorry, this close source for dvd is just ridiculous
[20:51] <netrunner> SMP: I would not see this as a-k behaviour. there is a patch that extends an open source program with long desired features. so why not include it?
[20:52] <tcr> SMP: It's a political question in the spirit of Free Software.
[20:52] <tcr> It's a question mainly for Distributors
[20:52] <netrunner> Ragnar0k: that's also not completely correct. It is the legal act to try to get some money from companies that use his software. both sides have good points ;)
[20:53] <SMP> netrunner: _that_ is an option -- doing it just for the sake of offence is not
[20:54] <tcr> SMP: No, it'd be for the sake of _defense_
[20:55] <SMP> what do you intend to defend by "kick[ing] schilling's ass for his obnoxious behaviour"?
[20:55] <tcr> netrunner, This is not an excuse for establishing microsoft like lock-in circumstances
[20:55] <netrunner> tcr: it is not against the spirit of free soft. I fully understand his arguments and accept his behaviour. Maybe the success of netfilter will change his mind in the future. but it is his rikht to offer _his_ sw as _he_ wants.
[20:56] <Ragnar0k> netrunner: making it a binary module only is not a good option in my book
[20:56] <netrunner> note I am not talking about the behaviour against suse but about the binary of prodvd
[20:56] <tcr> netrunner, Don't you see that he tries to undermine the GPL?
[20:56] <netrunner> the thing with suse is indiscutable. there I agree.
[20:57] <netrunner> but they are free to patch it out ;)
[20:57] <SMP> brb food
[20:57] <tcr> SMP: free software :)
[20:58] <daja77> gpl is not everything ...
[20:59] <tcr> ?
[21:01] <daja77> i don't think that everybody has to use gpl or should be enforced to do so ...
[21:03] <tcr> Am I doing the wrong thing when I try to see the context? Or do you intend to move the matter of discussion to a completely new point?
[21:08] Action: netrunner thinks the discussion is about cdrecord. schilling offers prodvd binary only. this is not nice. a free patch exists that add's dvd support to the free cdrtools. this is ok. it is not nice of schilling to fight this patch in cdrtools.
[21:10] <tcr> I don't get this anyway. Why doesn't he tried to get paid by Mandrake, SuSE & Co to do his work? Mandrake (where the patch origins) must have at least one person who cares about this stuff anyway, so why should they not engage the most authorivate person, himself?
[21:10] <tcr> s,tried,try,
[21:11] <daja77> schilling is from fhg ...
[21:12] <tcr> Fachhochschule Gießen?
[21:12] <daja77> fraunhofer gesellschaft ...
[21:14] <Ragnar0k> ah that explains it;)
[21:14] <tcr> Oups.
[21:15] <Ragnar0k> 'Frei? Ha! Geld' wollen wir:)
[21:16] <daja77> well that is not the problem in general
[21:16] <netrunner> damn. /me now getting throat-aches
[21:17] Action: Ragnar0k just reminds about the issues with FHG making claims about mp3 players to open source authors who used the ref. implementation
[21:18] <Ragnar0k> where they very well knew they don't hold a patent for playing
[21:23] <SMP> re
[21:38] <daja77> rofl device seek errors in qemu
[21:54] <netrunner> rofl. /me had split screen, both parts showing this irc window, but I check both to see if there are new messages ;)
[21:55] <Ragnar0k> *hrhr*
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[22:01] Action: netrunner starting the 8th enterprice video for today
[22:01] <netrunner> oh, I think I know this one.
[22:16] <daja77> http://lospalmos.homelinux.net/rock-shots
[22:16] <netrunner> a new drink? ;)
[22:16] <daja77> what drink?
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[22:17] <netrunner> rock-shots, sounded like a cocktail ;)
[22:17] <daja77> ;)
[22:18] <daja77> just a few pics i made with qemu
[22:18] <netrunner> gngngn. the problem with people living together is that illnesses spread. :(
[22:19] <daja77> you are ill?
[22:20] <netrunner> I feel it starting. my throat. :/
[22:21] <daja77> :(
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[22:38] <mnemoc_> rehi
[22:39] <daja77> re mnemoc_ 
[22:39] <mnemoc_> hi daja77 
[22:39] <daja77> btw i am on again, so if someone wants to see the pics >_<
[22:44] <mnemoc_> tar.gz?
[22:48] <netrunner> mnemoc_: wget -m ;)
[22:52] <mnemoc_> :p
[22:52] <mnemoc_> i have to go
[22:52] <mnemoc_> cu tomorrow =)
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[23:07] <Ragnar0k> back
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[23:26] <madtux> greetings.
[23:27] <madtux> mny?
[23:30] <tcr> moin madtux
[23:32] <madtux> ah good day tcr 
[23:33] <tcr> with mny you mean mnemoc?
[23:33] Action: daja77 yawns
[23:33] <madtux> tcr: sure.
[23:33] <madtux> daja77: sleepy again?
[23:33] <tcr> <mnemoc_> i have to go
[23:33] <tcr> <mnemoc_> cu tomorrow =)
[23:34] <daja77> madtux: yep
[23:34] <madtux> arrgg... thanks tcr 
[23:34] <madtux> daja77: geez u are a "sleepaholic"!
[23:35] <daja77> nope just got up too early today
[23:36] <daja77> was at the garage with the car ...
[23:36] <madtux> i woke up at 4:30am today.. ealier than that?
[23:36] <daja77> nope
[23:36] <daja77> but went too bed late, and hadn't slept really
[23:36] <madtux> mm... ok :P
[23:36] <daja77> and i just coded crap, so i stopped
[23:37] <daja77> watching some tv and then i am off
[23:37] <tcr> daja77, What are you watching?
[23:37] <daja77> kalkofe
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