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[08:19] <madtux> moin [08:19] <De_Elsasser> moin madtux [08:19] <madtux> hello De_Elsasser [08:19] <dsoul> hi madtux [08:19] <madtux> hey mike [08:20] <De_Elsasser> hi dsoul [08:20] <dsoul> hi De_Elsasser :) [08:33] link_ (~link_@adsl.xan.ch) joined #rocklinux. [08:34] <madtux> sascha!! [08:39] ringo (ringo78@xs1.xs4all.nl) joined #rocklinux. [08:41] <madtux> RINGO! [08:43] link_ (~link_@adsl.xan.ch) left irc: "leaving" [08:46] <ringo> hi madtux ! [08:46] <ringo> still hiding for the cia ? [08:46] <madtux> hehe [08:46] <madtux> shh! [08:46] <madtux> :P [08:46] <madtux> how are u my friend? [08:47] <ringo> fine thx now trying to master php... [08:47] <ringo> making some forum on some website [08:47] <madtux> php5? [08:47] <ringo> how are you my friend ? [08:47] <ringo> php4 [08:47] <madtux> i'm good thanks [08:47] <netrunner> ringo: I can recommend mwforum. [08:47] <ringo> nice to hear [08:48] <netrunner> moin. [08:48] Action: netrunner <- throat hurts :( [08:49] <ringo> moin netrunner [08:50] <ringo> netrunner: try strepsils [08:50] <madtux> netrunner, can u scream? [08:52] <ringo> madtux: writing my own it just has to be very basic and same theme as the rest of the website. But thanx for tyhe hint. [08:53] <madtux> mm... ringo well it was netty whoi gave u the hint [08:53] <ringo> oops sorry not reading ... [08:54] <ringo> thx netty ! sorry only reading superficiall [08:54] <madtux> hehe [08:54] <madtux> well i'm off [08:54] madtux (~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr) left #rocklinux ("Leaving"). [09:16] Nick change: BoS_ -> BoS [09:24] <blindy> moin [09:28] <dsoul> hi blindy [09:28] <ringo> moin blindy [09:28] <blindy> moin dsoul, ringo [09:46] De_Elsasser (~eric@ANancy-110-1-20-174.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:47] De_Elsasser (~eric@ANancy-110-1-11-38.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #rocklinux. 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[15:01] <fake> for a full build with rebuild stage [15:02] <daja77> fake: without rebuild stage [15:04] <fake> okay ;) [15:05] <kraftwerk> ok, i will test it ;-) [15:07] <kraftwerk> is the package management good? do you have any good links? [15:07] <daja77> what is good or bad in your eyes? [15:08] <kraftwerk> well, i.e. connecting rpmseek.com and search a package, download id, try to install an faile is bad. [15:08] <kraftwerk> for e.g. typing "apt-get install xserver-xfree86" and it runs - thats good! [15:08] <daja77> hm [15:09] <kraftwerk> daja77: sprichst du deutsch? [15:10] <daja77> yep [15:10] <kraftwerk> ok das fällt mir leichter wie man merkt ;-) [15:11] <DeElsasser> warum ist denn hier kein deutschspraechender kanal? [15:12] <daja77> because we have people here who can't speak german [15:12] <kraftwerk> ok let's talk english.. [15:12] <DeElsasser> poum... [15:13] <daja77> hm? [15:13] <DeElsasser> ;) [15:13] <kraftwerk> daja77: what can you tell me about the package-managing system? [15:14] <daja77> nothing atm because i have to leave cu [15:14] <kraftwerk> cya [15:14] <kraftwerk> someone else? [15:35] SerWou (~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.52B [Mozilla rv:1.6/20040113]" [15:38] <netrunner> kraftwerk: scripts/EmergePkg should do what apt-get install probably does [15:39] <kraftwerk> netrunner: oh? thats very cool... [15:39] <fake> ... without dependencies [15:39] <kraftwerk> is scripts/EmergePkg like emerge from gentoo? [15:39] <kraftwerk> fake: and WITH dependencies? [15:40] <fake> that script uses a weird approach to detect updates of packages, will be re-worked [15:40] <netrunner> fake: does a summary of devmeeting exist? [15:41] <fake> netrunner: see svn.clifford.at/wiki/ [15:41] <fake> the devmeeting-TODO kindof is a wrapup [15:45] <kraftwerk> ok, i'd like to install rock and test it. i read the documentation: "If you have a CDROM drive this is by far the easiest option. Burn an ISO image on CD". [15:45] <kraftwerk> ok. which ISO-image should i take? [15:46] <fake> the latest ;) [15:46] <kraftwerk> fake: ;-) [15:46] <fake> x86? [15:46] <kraftwerk> i am confused, beacause: [15:46] <kraftwerk> "You can download pre-compiled ROCK Linux binaries or build it yourself." [15:46] <kraftwerk> i would like to build it for myself [15:47] <kraftwerk> and there is no iso for it [15:47] <kraftwerk> is there no small iso? [15:47] <fake> kraftwerk: for buildibng you don't need an iso [15:47] <kraftwerk> ah? i have to make a partition, hm? [15:47] <fake> noo [15:47] <fake> no no no ;) [15:48] <kraftwerk> ok? [15:48] <kraftwerk> ;-= [15:48] <kraftwerk> very good. [15:48] <fake> you have linux installed already, i guess. which distribution? [15:48] <kraftwerk> hm, there isn't yet an operating system on my computer [15:48] <kraftwerk> ;-) [15:48] <fake> oh. well, then building will be hard ;) [15:49] <fake> kraftwerk: wait a second [15:49] <kraftwerk> fake: ok. thx. [15:49] <fake> https://drocklinux.dyndns.org/ftp/drock/stable/2.0.0/minimal/ [15:50] <fake> it's pretty old, but it should contain everything you need to get started with your build [15:50] Action: fake no has to go cleaning up ... [15:51] <kraftwerk> hm, and there is no other way for me to build my own system on an actual image? [15:52] <kraftwerk> (can't i build my system on the large iso (binary) 2.0.2?) [15:54] <valentin> kraftwerk: yes you should be able to build rock from almost every actual linux distribution in case you have the correct tools installed [15:54] <valentin> of course you can install the full desktop build and then start your own build with that one [15:57] <kraftwerk> valentin: ok that would be great... 'cause i don't want to install first an other distribution. [15:57] <kraftwerk> i'd like to start with rock an begin to build ;-) [16:01] <valentin> kraftwerk: i would take this one as a start: [16:01] <valentin> https://nexus.tfh-berlin.de/~drock/stable/2.0.1/desktop/ [16:06] <kraftwerk> where is the difference between 2.0.1 and 2.0.2? [16:06] Action: kraftwerk is searching a changelog... [16:08] <kraftwerk> ah, 2.0.2 isn't yet stable? [16:08] <kraftwerk> ok, i will take 2.0.1 ;-) [16:10] <kraftwerk> ouch... three disks? =S =D [16:10] <kraftwerk> do i need all of them? [16:17] <fake> that's why i pointed you to the minimal 2.0.0 iso [16:17] <fake> but hey - don't listen to me, i'm just a stranger. [16:17] <fake> ;) [16:23] <kraftwerk> fake: ok ok ;-) [16:23] <kraftwerk> i have downloadet it before [16:23] <kraftwerk> it's ready to burn now. [16:24] <kraftwerk> are there much differences between 2.0.0 and 2.0.1? many updates? [16:35] madtux (~mike@196.40.44.22) joined #rocklinux. [16:50] mnemoc (~amery@200.75.27.56) joined #rocklinux. [17:04] mnemoc_ (~amery@200.75.27.52) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:02] tfing_ (~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-2-114.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #rocklinux. 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[22:13] <tcr> mnemoc, ps $OPTIONS | less ? [22:13] <mnemoc> postscript :) [22:13] <madtux> *g* [22:14] <daja77> mnemoc: psnup iirc [22:15] <mnemoc> is it part of psutils? [22:16] <tcr> mnemoc, What do you mean with multipage then? [22:16] <mnemoc> to print one page with 4 pages tiled [22:22] <tcr> mnemoc, Ah. mpage is for that kind of thing. [22:24] <mnemoc> i want to send a 16 sheets pdf to print as a 4-sheets pdf =) [22:34] <mnemoc> aarg... when converting pdf to ps i loose all the images :( [22:34] Action: mnemoc has lot to learn about ps/pdf [22:59] daja77 ([1Tg7bv6Tj@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de) left irc: "oergs" [23:21] daja77 ([EXCnD3085@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de) joined #rocklinux. [23:45] DeElsasser (~eric@ANancy-110-1-15-225.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:50] <SMP> mnemoc: "make a screenshot of each page, scale the image, images into a table in Word" ;-> [23:51] <tcr> Yeah, as .BMPs [23:52] <SMP> no, use BMPs only if you want to email the document. for printing use JPEGs ;-> [23:53] <daja77> you are evil [00:00] --- Wed Aug 25 2004