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[00:45] <demian> hi
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[02:33] <fake> netrunner: clifford will be on the linux kongress
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[04:17] <sparc-kly> hi
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[08:00] <blindcoder> moin
[08:00] <dsoul> hi blindcoder 
[08:17] <netrunner> moin
[08:18] <dsoul> hi netrunner 
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[09:24] Action: netrunner @work painting his gf lots of 'learn!' windows on her computer @home ;)
[09:28] <Togg> moin :)
[09:28] <Togg> netrunner: what are u doing ???? 
[10:00] <netrunner> Togg: I looged into my gf's pc @home and connected some windows with the message to her X server. I suspected her to surf the internet instead of learning ;)
[10:01] <Togg> isnt that espionage ;)
[10:02] <netrunner> no, I cannot see what is on her screen. I just write stuff there.
[10:02] <Togg> ah ok
[10:02] <netrunner> well, I could read squid logs and so on, but I don't do that kind of stuff.
[10:04] <netrunner> could it be that 2.6.8.1 is missing modpost?
[10:13] <netrunner> hm, or better, that it does not build it?
[10:17] <netrunner> ah, hm... the kernel source is virgin ... so it is not compiled there.
[10:18] <netrunner> hm, it does not really make sense to build linux-drm against the kernel source ...
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[10:56] <daja77> lol netrunner 
[10:59] <netrunner> damn. I cannot remember which address I am subscribed to rlml with. now trying all ;)
[10:59] <daja77> i could have a look
[11:09] <netrunner> hm, a # would work as split seperator ...
[11:11] <netrunner> alsa-driver is a 2.4 only package, no?
[11:12] <esden> hi all
[11:12] <esden> ping blindcoder 
[11:12] <daja77> hi esden
[11:13] <daja77> <- uni
[11:13] <netrunner> hi esdi
[11:13] <esden> hi daja77, netrunner 
[11:16] <esden> humm ... I hape blindcoder will awake ;)
[11:27] <netrunner> argl. I replaced the : in all .tar.bz2 with #, now I cannot change it back :/
[11:29] <netrunner> ah, using sed does the trick 
[11:31] <esden> netrunner: using sed solves maaaaany problems ;)
[11:37] <netrunner> sed -i purse -e 's,empty,full'
[11:40] <esden> then it is full ... but with what? bits and bytes ... or sand ... or stones?
[11:41] <netrunner> esden: it defaults to the primary datatype 
[11:41] <esden> aha ... good to know ... in your case that are probably bills ;)
[11:41] <esden> then you have a purse full of bills ... nice ;)
[11:49] <netrunner> gngngn. yet another bug :(
[11:52] <netrunner> what do you expect $( ls ../../pkgs/*.tar.bz2 | tr . / | cut -f8 -d/ ) to give for rock-src-2.1.0-DEV.tar.bz2 ?
[11:55] <netrunner> I don't get the sense of this line anyway. it magicks around the filename, just removing stuff that gets added again in the next line.
[11:56] <netrunner> target/{livecd,bootdisk}/build_stage2.sh  if you wondered.
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[12:09] <blindcoder> moin
[12:09] <blindcoder> anyone here who can recommend a good FM application?
[12:10] <netrunner> frequency modulation?
[12:10] <blindcoder> yes
[12:11] <blindcoder> I finally have found a working USB TV-Tuner and it comes with built-in FM radio
[12:11] <netrunner> blindcoder: how does it bring the tv picture to your screen?
[12:11] <netrunner> blindcoder: does it work under linux?
[12:11] <blindcoder> v4l
[12:11] <blindcoder> yes
[12:11] <netrunner> ah
[12:11] <blindcoder> that's what I mean with "working" :)
[12:11] <netrunner> name/price?
[12:12] <blindcoder> WinTV USB
[12:12] <blindcoder> but _Only_ the one _with_ FM Tuner
[12:12] <blindcoder> the one without does NOT work
[12:12] <blindcoder> 129 TEuros
[12:12] <netrunner> does it support digital tv? (as you move to berlin, you would need it ;)
[12:13] <blindcoder> Where I'm going to live you don't need a digital receiver
[12:13] <blindcoder> there is a translater or whatever these things are called in the house
[12:13] <blindcoder> So I'm fine for some time
[12:14] <blindcoder> bbl, lunch
[12:30] <esden> ahh blindcoder woke up but I was too slow >_<
[12:54] <blindcoder> back
[12:55] <blindcoder> moin esden 
[13:06] <esden> hi blindcoder 
[13:07] <esden> where is that search system for rock packages?
[13:07] <blindcoder> ehm...
[13:07] <blindcoder> well...
[13:07] <blindcoder> it is... it was in ~blindcoder/public_html
[13:07] <esden> argh blindcoder 
[13:07] <blindcoder> oh wait
[13:07] <esden> blindcoder: you know the word "backup"? ;)
[13:07] <blindcoder> svn://scavenger.homeip.net/rock_sonar
[13:08] <blindcoder> esden: Ibought 25 DVD-Rs the very same day
[13:08] <esden> how did it happen?
[13:08] <daja77> blindcoder: you can use the command line tool radio, which is included in xawtv package, or fetch kradio, gradio or sth like that
[13:08] <esden> (and so by the way the rock linux in a tar.bz2 is on apollo in my home ;))
[13:08] <blindcoder> I wrote a script that automatically created mountpoints for USB-Sticks with entries in /etc/fstab and soon
[13:09] <blindcoder> this script was supposed to be only started if an uSB-Device with the usbid of my mobile disk and stick was inserted/ejected
[13:09] <blindcoder> unfortunatiely it was started when _any_ usb device wan inserted/ejected
[13:09] <blindcoder> thus triggering a bug that caused the following command to be executed:
[13:09] <blindcoder> rm -rf /mnt/
[13:10] <blindcoder> and my fileserver/mail-/web- was mounted on /mnt/crazyhorse/
[13:10] <blindcoder> daja77: ah cool. thanks
[13:10] <blindcoder> esden: as soon as I have some spare bandwidth I'll download it
[13:10] <esden> that was bad ... 
[13:11] <blindcoder> indeed
[13:11] <esden> ok ... then have fun with that tarball ... it is directly copied out of thunderbird
[13:11] <blindcoder> esden: well, the rock sonar thing is in  svn-repository which wasn't deleted
[13:11] <esden> but if I see it correctly the mailbox format is mbox
[13:11] <netrunner> ah, now the livecd builds.
[13:12] <blindcoder> esden: filename?
[13:12] <esden> rock.sbd.tar.bz2
[13:18] <netrunner> anyone knows where the packaging code is in?
[13:18] <blindcoder> Build-Pkg
[13:21] <esden> ahh that was a good pizza ... *murpf*
[13:22] <daja77> <- continuing on studienarbeit
[13:22] <daja77> cu
[13:26] <netrunner> hf
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[13:56] <esden> weeeeehooooo I will get my laptop today !!! WEEEEE
[13:57] Action: esden Jumping around ;)
[13:57] Action: netrunner giving esden a cookie
[13:57] <esden> netrunner: thanks ;)
[13:59] <netrunner> esden: what type?
[14:00] <esden> netrunner: powerbook 15.2" 1.5GHz 512MBRam 80GB disk combo drive
[14:03] <daja77> cool so you could do ppc port
[14:03] Action: daja77 hides
[14:06] <netrunner> gngngn, now I find my isdn card working, but remember that I unplugged the cable in favour of my telefone :/
[14:13] <esden> daja77: :P
[14:13] <esden> netrunner: very intelligent!
[14:13] <esden> damn ... the guy made a mistake ... the laptop will be there next week ... not today >_<
[14:59] <th> moin
[14:59] <netrunner> hi th
[14:59] <esden> hi th 
[15:00] <th> yo hi
[15:14] Action: netrunner is utterly bored
[15:15] <daja77> code!
[15:16] Action: netrunner is @work currently and not supposed to bypass the company firewall to irc @home or do rl stuff ;)
[15:17] <daja77> oh ic
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[15:20] <nzg> moin
[16:04] Action: netrunner booting livecd
[16:08] <netrunner> why do I have a blinking cursor in the upper left? 
[16:08] <netrunner> I mean ... kde started fine, but there's this cursor ... :)
[16:09] <netrunner> hm, our livecd is way more responsive than the knoppix one.
[16:10] <daja77> it needs some polishing ...
[16:10] <netrunner> works like a charm so far. 
[16:10] <daja77> it does
[16:11] <netrunner> and it has only 437MB, so there's some more space.
[16:11] <daja77> i meant polishing so that it can't be used by knoppix users too
[16:11] <daja77> yep that's the best part
[16:12] <netrunner> daja77: can, not can't, no?
[16:12] <daja77> s/can't/can
[16:12] <netrunner> :)
[16:12] <netrunner> what it's currently missing: autologin, network interface autosetup (ifplugd?)
[16:13] <daja77> tools to store homedir on usbstick, floppy disk and stuff
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[16:13] <madtux> good day
[16:13] <daja77> hi mad
[16:13] <netrunner> hi mad man
[16:13] <daja77> tux
[16:13] <madtux> hello folks :)
[16:14] <netrunner> oh, I am missing libgtk ...
[16:14] <daja77> netrunner: that stuff which is on knoppix menu on knoppix
[16:15] <netrunner> daja77: I haven't extensively used knoppix. just to demonstrate a few weeks ago.
[16:15] <netrunner> daja77: the load times were ugly. I wonder why ours is so fast.
[16:15] <daja77> yeah that's cool
[16:15] <daja77> because the knoppic startup scripts are crap ...
[16:15] <netrunner> oh, switching to text-console and back made the cursor vanish. maybe a fb leftover
[16:16] <daja77> oh i forgot, non framebuffer stuff should work ...
[16:25] <netrunner> ah, ic, it's using X in framebuffer mode.
[16:35] <mnemoc_> moin
[16:39] <netrunner> hi mnemoc_ 
[16:39] <mnemoc_> hi netrunner 
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[16:47] <rolla> re
[16:47] <mnemoc_> hi rolla 
[16:47] <rolla> hallo mnemoc_ 
[16:48] <rolla> what is the proper german to ask for someone when you have called them on the phone?
[16:49] <SMP> rolla: depends on your relationship towards the person speaking on the phone and the person you would like to talk to
[16:49] <SMP> rolla: but in general "Ich wuerde gerne Xyz sprechen" seems appropriate
[16:51] <rolla> thanks
[16:51] <rolla> it is a co-worker
[16:54] <netrunner> rolla: I'd simply assume the german on the other end to understand english ;)
[16:56] <th> how was that vim option named that automatically continues c comments when entering a new line from comment
[16:58] <tcr> :h format-comments
[17:04] <rolla> netrunner: yes but I wanted to ask for him in german ;)
[17:04] <rolla> he is swiss :)
[17:06] <th> tcr: thanks. it's set formatoptions=tcrq
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[17:30] <netrunner> rolla: poser :)
[17:31] <rolla> why am I a poser?
[17:31] <fake> moun
[17:31] <fake> moin*
[17:31] <rolla> they learn english why can't I work on my german
[17:31] <daja77> just ignore him ^^
[17:31] <madtux> hello rolla
[17:31] <daja77> hi fake 
[17:31] <madtux> lo fake
[17:32] <fake> daja77: kdeaddons/gcc34.patch doesn't apply anymore, either... /me waiting for pkg to finish
[17:33] <daja77> hm haven't i mentioned to remove all those patches in the update patch description?
[17:33] <fake> but all in all the kde update went very well ;)
[17:33] <fake> oops. that may very well be possible
[17:33] <fake> but the libpam-fix.patch for kdeadmin is still needed, i adopted it
[17:33] <daja77> could you send a patch for it?
[17:33] <fake> i did
[17:34] <daja77> ok
[17:34] <daja77> <- off from rock dev for 3 days, because of ither work ...
[17:34] <SMP> daja77: no you haven't
[17:34] <daja77> damn
[17:34] <SMP> yeah, I thought so, too ;)
[17:35] <daja77> it seems that svn rm prevents to add those removals to the patch :(
[17:35] <daja77> only when you do that manually, that kind of sucks
[17:35] <fake> sm del !
[17:35] <fake> not svn rm
[17:36] <daja77> huh, there is a difference?
[17:36] <fake> sure
[17:36] <daja77> d'oh
[17:36] <fake> svn commit != sm commit
[17:36] <daja77> ah sm del, was not aware of this
[17:37] <daja77> >_<
[17:37] <mnemoc> svn del _does_ produce sm changes
[17:38] <daja77> ok noticed for the next patches, sorry for the mess ...
[17:38] <fake> daja77: no problem, really
[17:39] <daja77> there are more patches to remove ...
[17:41] <fake> stf fixed some already
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[18:03] Action: esden -> IN
[18:05] <madtux> MPET!
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[19:08] <madtux> [anders]: !
[19:18] <netrunner> has anybody a solution for the shared file issues with info dir nodes?
[19:18] <netrunner> (in this case glib and gtk+12)
[19:38] <fake> netrunner: see submaster
[19:39] <fake> netrunner: 2004083114231418192
[19:43] <fake> hrmpf
[19:43] <fake> kde needs .la files runtime
[19:45] <fake> argh!
[19:45] <fake> why are all kde programs installed in prefix=/usr ???
[19:49] <netrunner> fake: hm. not in my build of last night (livecd)
[19:49] <netrunner> fake: maybe the update missed sth?
[19:51] <fake> no.
[19:51] <fake> i finished a livecd last night
[19:51] <fake> it worked like a charm...
[19:51] <fake> btw, the current kernel config won't work for the livecd with 2.6.8.1
[19:51] <fake> you need to add CONFIG_MD=n to target/livecd/kernel.conf
[19:53] <netrunner> fake: it will.
[19:53] <netrunner> fake: better: it does ;)
[19:54] <fake> hum?
[19:54] <fake> the kernel worked for you?
[19:54] <fake> 2.6.8.1 with no NULL pointer dereferencing error?
[19:55] <fake> btw, if you applied the kde updates, you'll get kde in /usr
[19:55] <netrunner> fake: have you looked at the update I sent? (with the squashfs update)
[19:55] <netrunner> fake: that's what I meant with update before.
[19:56] <netrunner> fake: the only problem with the livecd I have is that gtk+12 was not packaged because of Found shared files with other packages: opt/gnome/share/info/dir: glib12 gtk+12
[20:06] <fake> netrunner: as you may have noticed, i already sent an update for this, and i built the 2.6.8.1 kernel with squashfs-2.0-r2
[20:06] <fake> netrunner: but it may very well be a qemu problem...
[20:07] <fake> netrunner: i know. and as you can see in the texinfo parse-config this is now in flistdel
[20:09] <madtux> question: where do i get 2.1 src tree?
[20:11] <fake> madtux: subversion pr rsync
[20:11] <fake> madtux: *or
[20:11] <madtux> whats latest?
[20:14] <madtux> fake: howdy btw?
[20:15] <fake> madtux: they are in sync
[20:15] <fake> madtux: hiiidiiihoo!
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[20:15] <madtux> fake: in that case svn
[20:16] <madtux> please :)
[20:16] <fake> see http://www.rocklinux.net/svn/
[20:16] <madtux> patches are to be sent by submaster right?
[20:16] <fake> it's either
[20:16] <fake> http://www.rocklinux.net/svn/rock-linux/trunk or
[20:16] <fake> https://www.rocklinux.net/svn/rock-linux/trunk or
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[20:16] <fake> svn://www.rocklinux.org/rock-linux/trunk
[20:16] <madtux> fine
[20:17] <madtux> fake: i think we should remove the i18n stuff for Documentation.. should i actually send a patch fore this?
[20:17] <madtux> for*
[20:17] <fake> madtux: your chances geht higher if you do so ;)
[20:18] <madtux> ok
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[21:03] Action: fake off to augsburg -> ROCK fabrik ;)
[21:40] <daja77> :)
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[22:02] <demian> hi
[22:03] <demian> how can i print data values using memory address or labels in gdb ?
[22:04] <demian> i just know how to print 32 bits registers, and the segment ones
[22:07] <th> you might want to use some frontend?
[22:07] <th> or have a look at the frontend's source?
[22:09] <demian> well.. ive used gdb from command line, i want to know the way to perform a print of a value in a memory address, for example, to print a register i do: print $eax
[22:09] <demian> didnt know there were frontends :p
[22:11] <demian> always used ndisasm and gdb from cmdline :s
[22:23] <demian> let's try this one: http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/ddd/
[22:26] <SMP> ddd .. *shiver*
[22:28] <daja77> hehe
[22:28] <daja77> it only works for toy programms
[22:28] <demian> ? want to debug nasm code
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[22:53] <th> 2192 builds total, 1994 completed fine, 10 with errors.
[22:53] <Ragnar0k> stable?
[22:53] <th> ack
[22:54] <th> almost head.
[22:54] <th> no wait... 
[22:55] <th> thats exactly the head.
[22:57] <demian> ye
[22:57] <demian> bye
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