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[00:53] <fake> hallo [00:53] <th> hmm [00:53] <fake> grrztk [00:55] <nzg> ? [01:28] madtux (~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr) joined #rocklinux. [02:57] madtux (~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr) left irc: "Leaving" [03:32] assassin (~assassin@dialup-4.224.186.227.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) joined #rocklinux. [03:55] anonymous-coward (~nwalsh@shaggy.internode.com.au) joined #rocklinux. [04:01] blindcod1r (~blindcode@pD958FDAC.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [04:18] blindcoder (~blindcode@pD958F8CF.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:20] assassin (~assassin@assassin.user) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:59] anonymous-coward (~nwalsh@shaggy.internode.com.au) got netsplit. [06:59] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EBB1C.dip.t-dialin.net) got netsplit. [06:59] SerWou (~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net) got netsplit. [06:59] luckz (luckz@luckz.de) got netsplit. [07:00] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EBB1C.dip.t-dialin.net) returned to #rocklinux. 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[10:03] Action: netrunner found bavarian voice for festival [10:14] <blindcoder> nice :) [10:16] [anders2] (~snafu@blueice2n1.uk.ibm.com) joined #rocklinux. [10:33] assassin (~assassin@adsl-68-78-249-206.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net) joined #rocklinux. [10:40] assassin (~assassin@assassin.user) left irc: "updates" [10:44] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EB93F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [10:44] <nzg> moin [10:46] martin_ (~martin@pD9E72AC9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [10:55] <BoS> moin [11:10] martin_ (~martin@pD9E72AC9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Verlassend" [11:25] BoS (~BoS@dialin-212-144-002-104.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:28] De_Elsasser (~eric@ANancy-110-1-10-149.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:29] De_Elsasser (~eric@ANancy-110-1-16-54.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #rocklinux. [11:29] De_Elsasser (~eric@ANancy-110-1-16-54.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [11:54] tschmidt_ (~tschmidt@p508EA83A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [11:54] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EB93F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:54] Nick change: tschmidt_ -> nzg [12:19] BoS (~BoS@dialin-145-254-169-039.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [12:37] clifford (~clifford@213-229-1-138.sdsl-line.inode.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:36] freed (~junix@pD95D0256.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [14:36] <freed> hi all [14:38] <freed> can anyone help? xt-commerce is a oscommerce clone. oscommerce is gpl-software. now in version 3.0 of xt-commerce , i must pay 98 for support and without support no software. is this legal? [14:57] <netrunner> freed: why not? [14:57] <freed> because gpl? [14:58] <freed> is das echt legal dieses vorgehen? [14:59] <netrunner> freed: 1. keep LANG=en. 2. if they clone it, they didn't modify the gpl code but programmed it themselves. so they can put it under a license of their taste. [15:00] <freed> mmh [15:11] <th> only 13 packages to go in stage=5 in current refbuild of 2.0-stable :0] [15:25] junix_ (~junix@pD95D0256.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [15:25] <th> junix_: i think one client should be enough per channel, don't you think so? [15:25] <junix_> ping timeout [15:25] Nick change: junix_ -> freeed [15:27] #rocklinux: mode change '+o th' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [15:27] freed kicked from #rocklinux by th: th [15:27] #rocklinux: mode change '-o th' by th!th@thzn.de [15:29] <[anders2]> th: you gonna kick me off here as well? [15:29] <[anders2]> :-) [15:29] <th> hmm? [15:29] <th> you guys should register your nicks and use services to get rid of your "duplicates" yourself [15:29] <[anders2]> they are not dupes, they are on purpose. [15:30] <[anders2]> this is me logged in from site, the other is me logged in from home [15:30] <th> [anders2]: ahh. so this was no kick request. [15:30] <[anders2]> nope [15:30] <th> ok [15:31] <th> [anders2]: so my answer is "no" [15:31] <th> ;> [15:31] <[anders2]> just wondering as you said about one client per # was enough. :) [15:31] <th> [anders2]: client as in "client from same IP" [15:32] <[anders2]> :-) [15:32] <[anders2]> th: you'd be in trouble if more people logged in from Hursley then. ;-) [15:32] <th> :> [15:32] <[anders2]> as there is a PIX in the way, there is potentially 3,000 people that would look like they came from the same IP. ;-) [15:32] <th> i wouldn't be in trouble. [15:33] <[anders2]> nah, only joking mate. :) [15:33] <th> but this was just a dip-dialin [15:33] <th> ;> [15:33] <[anders2]> heh [15:33] <th> ok i'll bbl [15:33] <[anders2]> oki.. [15:33] <[anders2]> I'll drop off this connection now. getting ready to go home. :) [15:33] [anders2] (~snafu@blueice2n1.uk.ibm.com) left #rocklinux ("Client exiting"). [16:02] praenti (~praenti@mail.obster.org) left irc: "leaving" [17:22] <th> re [17:59] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EA83A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "feierabend" [18:02] tfing_ (~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-5-38.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #rocklinux. [18:12] <rolla> re [18:14] freeed (~junix@pD95D0256.dip.t-dialin.net) left #rocklinux ("Verlassend"). [18:19] tcr (~tcr@pD9EAA6FD.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [18:19] tfing (~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-1-169.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:19] Nick change: tfing_ -> tfing [18:31] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EA83A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [18:53] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EA83A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Verlassend" [19:16] <netrunner> hum? mutt keeps the whole mailbox in memory? [19:17] <netrunner> no. it ate even more than the size of that mbox [19:17] <_Ragnar_> just the index afaik [19:18] mnemoc_ (~amery@200.75.27.34) joined #rocklinux. [19:20] BoS (~BoS@dialin-145-254-169-039.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:24] <netrunner> well, it had occupied 15MB of memory [19:28] mnemoc_ (~amery@200.75.27.34) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:29] mnemoc_ (~amery@200.75.27.34) joined #rocklinux. [19:34] mnemoc (~amery@200.75.27.47) left irc: Connection timed out [19:53] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EA4A4.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [19:53] <nzg> remoin [19:54] <mnemoc_> hi nzg [19:55] <nzg> hi mnemoc [19:57] [anders] (~snafu@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:19] <th> netrunner: talking of what backend? [20:35] <netrunner> th: which backend? [20:35] <th> netrunner: IMAP, Maildir, unix-mbox [20:35] <th> netrunner: your mutt [20:35] <th> with 15MB in ram [20:36] <netrunner> unix mbox [20:36] <th> i see [20:36] <th> bad choice [20:36] <th> i would understand if mutt prefers to read it all in memory [20:37] <th> you can't easily touch only a single mail within mbox [20:37] <netrunner> th: now that I restarted it it only has 2MB which i consider ok. [20:37] <th> netrunner: how many mails are that? [20:38] <netrunner> 381/13MB [20:38] <th> would be interesting how much mem it takes to do the same with Maildir as backend [20:38] <netrunner> now cleaning up a bit :) [20:38] <th> can you do the follow: [20:38] <th> mkdir -p testmaildir/{cur,new,tmp} [20:39] <th> and copy all mails into that by tagging all (use pattern) and saving into testmaildir/ [20:44] <netrunner> th: you mean just mbox or all other files in mail/ ? [20:45] <th> just what you need to do the same that ate up 15 / 2MB of ram [20:45] <netrunner> ah, I see what you want. [20:46] <th> cool ;] [20:48] <netrunner> hm, no. still has a normal size. maybe it was a long-running effect. could be running for a week now. [20:48] <th> so it takes how much now? [20:48] <th> 2MB [20:48] <th> ? [20:48] <netrunner> hm. and maybe I should upgrade 1.4.1i -> 1.4.2i [20:48] <netrunner> yes [20:48] <th> ok [21:37] <fake> SMP: ping [21:37] <fake> https://www.zen13655.zen.co.uk/mythphone.html [21:37] <th> hi fake [21:38] <fake> moin [21:38] <th> fake: https://iso.rocklinux.de/default.php?dir=/official/pre-release/20040902-build_bootstrap/ [21:39] <th> fake: (without changing web scripts) [21:39] netrunne1 (~andreas@pD9E8D30C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [21:43] <fake> th: kewl [21:43] <th> fake: i think there is no need for a <iso_files> section. [21:43] <th> fake: the web script has to look in that dir. if there is a pkgs/ dir it has to offer it (via http and ftp) [21:43] <th> fake: and if there is a isos/ dir - it hast to offer all iso's inside [21:44] <fake> th: there should be only one iso for one set of gems [21:44] <fake> th: or, one set of iso images [21:44] <th> i don't think so! [21:45] <th> there should be at least a minimal iso which has just enough stuff on it to boot [21:45] <th> (for doing a net install) [21:45] <fake> a bootdisk [21:45] <th> a bootiso [21:45] <th> floppy disks suck [21:46] <fake> yeah [21:46] <fake> but we can offer them nontheless [21:46] <th> sure [21:46] <th> but i think we should offer a very small boot iso too [21:46] <th> and thus we might have more than one set of iso's [21:46] <fake> that's just a bootdisk target burned on CD [21:47] <th> yes it is [21:51] <th> hmm svn is really down again :-( [21:53] <th> at least the http(s) [21:54] netrunner (~andreas@pD9E8D69F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:58] <th> svn:// is working. very slowly - but working. [21:58] Action: fake currently sm creating on the indigo2 ;) [21:58] <th> did they all boot? [21:59] <th> fake: i just want a clean checkout for starting another build :-/ [21:59] <fake> th: i checked 2 of em as of yet [22:00] <fake> be patient ;) [22:00] <th> no! ;> [22:00] <fake> th: you could use svm to create a local mirror of the master repos. [22:00] <th> fake: and i could use rsync to copy the source to the other machine [22:01] <th> /me is a bit jumpy cause of the refbuild [22:01] <th> it's still doing fine [22:02] <fake> state? [22:02] <th> 2186 builds total, 1294 completed fine, 0 with errors. [22:02] <th> == 22:02:37 =[9]=> Building base/rfc [0000 2.0.3]. [22:02] <fake> woo! [22:02] <th> yea [22:02] <th> without a break. [22:02] <fake> mine payed the gcc34 useage back: [22:03] <th> nothin to be fixed in between [22:03] <th> still running in _one_ fo [22:03] <th> s,fo,go, [22:03] <fake> 1309 builds total, 1249 completed fine, 60 with errors. [22:03] <th> uhhh [22:03] <fake> well, that was expected [22:03] <fake> to be honest, i din't expect so much to build... gcc 3.4.2 [22:04] <fake> i'll start fixing it ;) [22:05] <th> i want to have the subversion package cleanup before 2.0.3 [22:05] <th> (hope cliff is working on it soon) [22:07] <th> fake: i've commited sorta 2.0.3 roadmap in wiki (personal-todo) [22:07] <th> fake: comments on that [22:07] <th> ? [22:07] <fake> cool, lkemme read... [22:08] <th> perhaps i should add gimp update [22:09] <fake> th: not sure that will work, but you can try [22:10] <th> 2.0pre3 sounds too ugly to me [22:10] <th> there are only a few deps [22:10] <th> ghostscript, gimp-print42, gstreamer, gtkextra, libglade, medusa10, smpeg [22:10] <th> well there might be indirect ones [22:11] <th> i want to test that in the "to be started" build for which i'm waiting for svn checkout [22:14] <fake> beeeeeeeee patient. [22:14] <th> *jumpy* *jumpy* [22:22] <fake> clifford called me today, he forgot his cellphone power adaptor [22:22] <fake> i *knew* it [22:39] <th> fake: do you know _why_ svn is so slow? [22:46] [anders] (~snafu@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #rocklinux. [22:50] <fake> th: no idea [23:00] tcr_ (~tcr@pD9EAB74B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [23:00] tcr_ (~tcr@pD9EAB74B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:04] <fake> th: btw: the indigo2 all DO habe a TP port... [23:04] <th> sure? [23:04] <fake> th: you really confused me yesterday [23:04] <th> strange [23:05] <fake> th: i'm using it already ;) [23:05] <th> well ok [23:05] <th> i'll have a look at the pics [23:05] <fake> they're white and shiney [23:06] <th> ahh [23:06] <th> thought that was some kind of console [23:06] <th> cause it's not shielded [23:06] <th> ok anyways [23:07] <th> i'm off for tonight [23:07] <th> cya later [23:07] <fake> have fun! [23:16] madtux (~mike@196.40.44.22) joined #rocklinux. [23:17] <fake> hi madtux ! [23:21] tcr (~tcr@pD9EAA6FD.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:25] <madtux> hello fake. [23:25] <madtux> moin all [23:27] <nzg> moin madtux [23:33] <madtux> nazgul :) [23:39] <_Ragnar_> heya [23:54] <mnemoc_> moin [00:00] --- Sat Sep 11 2004