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[07:50] <tcr> moin all [07:51] <tcr> Anyone updated firefox already? [08:04] [anders2] (~snafu@82-68-84-60.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) left #rocklinux ("Client exiting"). [08:22] BoS_ (~BoS@dialin-145-254-169-132.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [08:31] tcr (~tcr@pD9EAB955.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:34] <blindcod1r> moin [08:34] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [08:38] blindcoder (~blindcode@pD958FCD8.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "reboot" [08:39] BoS (~BoS@dialin-212-144-080-173.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:50] <nzg> moin [08:56] blindcoder (~crash@62.245.214.143) joined #rocklinux. [08:58] <nzg> wb blindcoder [08:59] <blindcoder> thx [08:59] <blindcoder> looks like I have to replace two harddisks like... yesterday [09:02] <nzg> both defect? [09:02] <blindcoder> I have dmesg full of messages like: hdh not responding, ide3: reset, reset: successful [09:03] <blindcoder> just rebooted and now running a fsck [09:03] <nzg> hm, i have this sometimes with an ibm-disk which i know is defective because s.o. kicked it [09:04] <nzg> brb... router-reset... [09:04] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EB720.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Money underrun - Disconnecting..." [09:06] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EA633.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [09:06] <nzg> re [09:07] <blindcoder> wb [09:07] <nzg> thx [09:07] <blindcoder> well, I think it's something like that here, too [09:07] <blindcoder> some files are gone now... [09:08] <blindcoder> thank god there wasn't so much on this disk after I deleted it accidentally two weeks ago :/ [09:08] <nzg> maybe you shouldn't put anymore on it ;-) [09:09] <blindcoder> atm I have no way of accessing the machine physically and no other means of saving data [09:09] <blindcoder> I think I have no choice [09:09] <blindcoder> attempt to access beyond end of device [09:09] <blindcoder> is that bad? or really bad? [09:10] <nzg> hm, is __really__bad__ [09:10] <blindcoder> thought so [09:10] <nzg> can't you store the data somewhere else via network? [09:11] <blindcoder> that's the only machine I have atm [09:11] <blindcoder> but there isn't any important data there at least [09:11] <nzg> hm, thats not so good. [09:12] <blindcoder> well, the machine will move to my home next week [09:12] <blindcoder> then I can work on it [09:12] <blindcoder> and store anything I deem important on my 40GB USB drive *MUAHAHA* [09:12] <nzg> well, i need to make myself ready for work now, a colleagu is coming in 30 min [09:12] <nzg> USB-drive? uargs... [09:13] <blindcoder> great for laptops [09:13] <blindcoder> which is my #1 used machine since I bought it last december [09:14] <nzg> i have one, which, dependent of the machine and usb-port shows itself as unpartitioned, with slow speed or on most of the pcs around not at all [09:14] <blindcoder> works on each machine I tried it on [09:14] <blindcoder> even Solaris/SPARC ones [09:15] <nzg> k, thats good. [09:15] <blindcoder> bought it for 80EUR on ebay including hard disk :) [09:15] <nzg> so, i'm going to take a shower now. [09:15] <nzg> got an 80GB one for around the same [09:16] <blindcoder> nice :) [09:16] <blindcoder> have fun [09:18] blindcoder (~crash@62.245.214.143) left irc: "brb" [09:19] blindcoder (~blindcode@pD958FCD8.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [09:32] Nick change: nzg -> nazzgul [09:35] <nazzgul> blindcoder: thx... i will...1st job for today: drive with an a6 to a customer and install some office-modules [09:39] <netrunner> nazzgul: can I have your job? ;) [09:39] Action: netrunner wants an a6 [09:39] <nazzgul> you won't like it... [09:39] <nazzgul> the a6 istn't mine :[ [09:39] <netrunner> nazzgul: you don't know my current one :) [09:40] Action: nazzgul must code for windoze with mfc ... [09:40] <nazzgul> thats what comes afterwards... [09:40] <nazzgul> you know, there is always a bad side ;-) [09:44] <netrunner> nazzgul: I hold customizing with rexx against it :) [09:44] <nazzgul> hm, k - pat [09:45] <nazzgul> so... afk... [09:51] blindcoder (~blindcode@pD958FCD8.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:58] [anders2] (~snafu@blueice1n1.uk.ibm.com) joined #rocklinux. [10:11] nzg (~tschmidt@pD95F87E1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [10:12] <nzg> re [10:58] tfing_ (~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-2-48.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #rocklinux. [11:15] tfing (~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-3-192.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:15] Nick change: tfing_ -> tfing [11:17] <th> moin [11:20] <netrunner> hi th [11:21] TxD (~TxD@mab-host-38-103.mab.km3.de) joined #rocklinux. [11:22] <TxD> moin [11:42] <pennemops> moin [11:44] tschmidt_ (~tschmidt@pD95F8510.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [11:58] nzg (~tschmidt@pD95F87E1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:02] <TxD> where can i add a windowmanager in the kdm? - i have compiled enlightenment, and i want to add it to the kdm [12:02] <TxD> and i dont know where ... [12:06] <netrunner> TxD: in theory, you could run /etc/cron.daily/00-kdm (or a similar file) [12:09] <TxD> Creating kdm session scripts from ROCK wm registry ... [12:09] <TxD> where is the rock wm registry ? [12:09] <TxD> maybe i must add enlightenment there ... [12:11] <netrunner> TxD: have you built the rock package? then it is automatically registered. [12:11] <netrunner> it's somewhere in /usr/share [12:12] <TxD> the rock-package of enlightenment ? [12:12] <TxD> no, i have build it from source of enlightenment.org [12:14] TxD (~TxD@mab-host-38-103.mab.km3.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:17] TxD (~TxD@80.243.38.103) joined #rocklinux. [12:17] <TxD> re [12:17] TxD (~TxD@80.243.38.103) left irc: Client Quit [12:17] assassin (~assassin@assassin.user) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:30] blindy (~crash@apollo.bingo-ev.de) joined #rocklinux. [12:30] <blindy> hi [12:30] <blindy> can someone tell me when blindcoder left? [12:30] <th> hi blindy [12:30] <th> wait [12:30] <blindy> hi th [12:30] <th> 09:16:58 < blindcoder> have fun [12:30] <th> 09:51:41 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@pD958FCD8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 [12:30] <th> (Operation timed out)] [12:31] <blindy> hmm, that's bad [12:31] <th> (that was today) [12:31] <blindy> because the internet connection died, not the machine [12:31] <blindy> thanks [12:32] <th> but you are blindcoder? [12:32] <th> at work? [12:32] <blindy> yes [12:32] <th> i see [12:32] <th> i noticed a problem with xjdic23 [12:32] assassin (~assassin@adsl-68-78-249-202.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net) joined #rocklinux. [12:33] <blindy> what kind? [12:33] <th> not a build error [12:33] <th> but a "not so good" .conf [12:33] <blindy> hmm [12:33] <th> resulting in not deleted src dir [12:33] <blindy> let me have a look [12:33] <th> srcdir=. or something [12:33] <th> perhaps you can avoid this somewhen [12:34] <th> it does not seem to be a problem in trunk [12:34] <blindy> remind me about it on the ML or private mail. I will have to do several things next week. I just today got the information that my DSL will be connected on Monday [12:34] <th> ok [12:34] <th> very well [12:34] <th> i'll send you a note [12:35] <blindy> thanks [12:35] <th> @...homeip.net? [12:35] <th> as in [M] [12:36] <blindy> yes [12:36] <th> ok [12:36] <blindy> thanks. gotta get back to work now. [12:36] <blindy> bye [12:36] blindy (~crash@apollo.bingo-ev.de) left irc: "gone" [13:09] assassin (~assassin@assassin.user) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:25] Nick change: tschmidt_ -> nzg [14:26] blindy (~crash@apollo.bingo-ev.de) joined #rocklinux. [14:31] blindy (~crash@apollo.bingo-ev.de) left irc: ""You're breaking my heart, tears in my eyes. Nothing but pain and nothing but lies."" [14:31] blindcoder (~blindcode@pD958F9C3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [14:37] Nick change: BoS_ -> BoS [15:30] <daja77> re [15:34] <th> hi daja77 [15:34] <th> daja77: back from ireland? [15:34] <daja77> hi th [15:34] <daja77> yep [15:35] <daja77> landed 1.5h ago [15:42] <pennemops> hi daja77 [15:42] <daja77> hi pennemops [15:42] <daja77> hi owl ... [15:44] <pennemops> *g* [15:44] <[anders2]> *yawn* [15:45] <pennemops> hi [anders2] ! [15:46] <[anders2]> lo owl [15:54] <th> daja77: yesterday i wanted to ask you a question [15:54] <th> hmmm [15:56] <th> yea it was about how to get network working in qemu [15:57] <daja77> haven't tried myself yet [15:58] <th> kernel sees a rtl network card [15:58] <th> thats ok [15:58] <th> but did not get some bridged networking (bridged with host) to work [15:58] <th> it even has an IP address set [15:59] <daja77> guess i am still too tired to think about that atm [15:59] <th> hehe [15:59] <th> no matter [15:59] <th> just gimme a note if you manage it somewhen later [15:59] <blindcoder> hi hi and rehi [15:59] <th> hi blindcoder [15:59] <daja77> ok [15:59] <daja77> hi blindy [15:59] <daja77> <- off [15:59] <daja77> take care [15:59] <th> cya daja77 [16:33] treo (~xfman@D9814.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [16:33] <treo> hi [16:36] <th> hi treo [16:36] <th> treo: how is you machine going? [16:37] <treo> I havn't done anything, a short after I had done the install I had to go, I came back late and still had to do some homework [16:43] madtux (~mike@196.40.44.22) joined #rocklinux. [16:43] <madtux> hello [17:22] <daja77> hi madtux [17:22] <madtux> hello dany boy. [17:22] <daja77> <- back home :) [18:18] nzg (~tschmidt@pD95F8510.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Verlassend" [18:19] madtux (~mike@196.40.44.22) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:20] tcr (~tcr@p54879CF4.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [18:31] <netrunner> re [18:31] <netrunner> daja77: so, how was it, url to pix? [18:32] Action: netrunner flying to paris tomorrow [18:32] <daja77> first i have to dump them [18:32] <daja77> great, how comes? [18:32] <netrunner> 2years with natalia [18:33] <daja77> ah nice [18:35] De_Elsasser (~eric@ANancy-110-1-7-130.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #rocklinux. [18:35] <De_Elsasser> halli hallo [18:36] <daja77> hi De_Elsasser [18:36] <treo> hi De_Elsasser [18:36] <De_Elsasser> problem: when i configure the network with stone i can't login internet [18:37] <De_Elsasser> hallo daja77, the ireland is always nice? [18:37] <De_Elsasser> hihi treo [18:38] <daja77> De_Elsasser: jepp :) [18:38] <De_Elsasser> it connect but it doesn't respond [18:39] <netrunner> De_Elsasser: who does not respond? [18:40] <De_Elsasser> the internet [18:40] <netrunner> De_Elsasser: how do you connect? modem/isdn/dsl/drums/smokeß [18:40] <th> bad internet [18:40] <netrunner> no donut for you :) [18:40] <De_Elsasser> adsl [18:40] <netrunner> De_Elsasser: can you ping the other side? you can see the ip in /var/log/messages [18:41] <De_Elsasser> doesn't tried:( [18:41] <De_Elsasser> but I dont think so [18:42] <De_Elsasser> i removed network and it goes [18:43] <De_Elsasser> i try per hand (if i disapered you know what... [18:45] <De_Elsasser> it goes (i don't understand) [18:47] [anders2] (~snafu@blueice1n1.uk.ibm.com) left #rocklinux ("Client exiting"). [18:50] <De_Elsasser> all begins with "partage" internet to my sun.... [18:50] <netrunner> De_Elsasser: so it responds? can you ping the dns ip's you got? maybe your problem is resolving? [18:51] <De_Elsasser> yes i can ping my net work, i have internet but not my sun... [18:51] <treo> th: I'm a bit lost in configureing the system, can you give me some advice, maybe something like an initial todo list? [18:51] <th> treo: whats your inital problem? [18:52] <netrunner> De_Elsasser: so the box that connects to the inet has inet? your problem is routing inside your net? [18:52] <De_Elsasser> yep [18:52] Action: netrunner watching games on kgs [18:53] <netrunner> De_Elsasser: and you want to configure it using rocknet? or self built commands? [18:54] <netrunner> De_Elsasser: can your sun ping your router? [18:54] <treo> th: as I said, I'm a bit lost, I don't know what to do next (I had to much real life (ehm, real beer ^^)) [18:54] <De_Elsasser> rocklinux when it's go (i have kernel 2.6.8.1) [18:54] <th> treo: i don't know what you want to do with it. [18:55] <treo> th: I want to use it as desktop distribution [18:55] <netrunner> th: start mozilla, enter www.google.de [18:55] <th> treo: so you need to build a desktop target i think [18:55] <netrunner> s/th/treo/ [18:55] <th> netrunner: he has no x [18:55] <netrunner> oh :) [18:55] <treo> lynx :) [18:56] <netrunner> treo: scripts/Emerge-Pkg xfree86 "could work" :) [18:56] <th> treo: i think you will need a bit more HDD capacity to do a complete desktop build [18:56] <De_Elsasser> is masquerade always in the kernel, i dont find it... [18:58] <mnemoc> moin! [18:59] <treo> th: I don't neet too much, just a working x11r6.8 and fluxbox and only a few apps [18:59] <th> treo: you dont have more HDD? [18:59] <th> treo: i'd really suggest to build a desktop distribution [18:59] <th> treo: you can use that later [19:00] <treo> or, can I build it on the local machine here and use the binaries on the notebook? [19:00] <th> treo: sure [19:00] <netrunner> De_Elsasser: normally it's modules [19:00] nazzgul (~tschmidt@p508EA633.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Money underrun - Disconnecting..." [19:00] <th> treo: do you have some spare HDD capacity to get a build bootstrap package set to your local machine? [19:00] <netrunner> De_Elsasser: iptable_nat [19:00] <th> treo: or is your local machine already a rock? [19:00] <netrunner> oh, no, ipt_MASQUERADE [19:00] <treo> no, it is a debian [19:01] <th> treo: don't know whether that would work [19:01] <th> treo: has it devfs enabled? [19:01] <treo> no [19:01] <netrunner> th: I thought devfs is not needed any more? [19:01] <th> netrunner: are you sure about it in 2.0? [19:02] <netrunner> th: not sure. I know it is in for a long time, it could have been before the fork [19:02] <th> treo: i would really suggest that package set i gave you for building [19:02] <mnemoc> anyone know why i can get no access to display in my own DISPLAY after gdm? [19:02] <mnemoc> (randomly) [19:02] <th> mnemoc: because you remove your .Xauthority? [19:02] <netrunner> mnemoc: maybe you lost your lo interface? [19:03] <mnemoc> (i don't have devfsd here) [19:03] <mnemoc> i'll check both [19:03] <th> mnemoc: (devfsd or devfs?) [19:03] <mnemoc> devfs_d_ [19:03] <th> mnemoc: i said devfs ;) [19:03] <mnemoc> oh :p [19:04] <th> treo: can you install rock on your local machine? [19:04] <mnemoc> you don't need devfs on your host machine on a build [19:04] <th> mnemoc: are you sure about that for 2.0? [19:04] <netrunner> mnemoc: yes, but is this in 2.0 also? [19:04] <netrunner> :) [19:04] <treo> th: I can set up a vmware [19:04] <mnemoc> 99% ... let me check [19:04] <netrunner> I give 70% on yes [19:04] <th> treo: would perform really bad [19:04] <treo> ok [19:05] <th> treo: it might even work [19:05] Action: netrunner booting a knoppix [19:05] <mnemoc> netrunner: god test [19:05] <mnemoc> +o [19:05] <th> treo: you can extract the buildbootstrap packages into a dir on you local machine [19:05] <th> treo: chroot into it and try to build there [19:05] <th> netrunner: but don't come back before a complete refbuild succeeded ;) [19:06] <mnemoc> hehehe [19:06] <netrunner> th: I come back on monday :) [19:06] <treo> th: do you speak german? [19:06] <th> netrunner: ok ;) [19:07] <th> treo: not inside this channel [19:07] <treo> query? [19:07] <th> treo: ok [19:07] <mnemoc> # grep -lr mknod scripts/* [19:07] <mnemoc> scripts/Build-Pkg [19:07] <mnemoc> 10 times [19:15] <mnemoc> is ibm-java distributable? [19:22] <netrunner> knoppix has no /usr/bin/time ... that crashes the build :) [19:23] <netrunner> 3 [19:24] <th> netrunner: do you have some hdd space to mount at knoppix? [19:24] <th> netrunner: you could extract build bootstrap [19:25] <mnemoc> netrunner: `time` location is hardcoded on our scritps? [19:25] <netrunner> mnemoc: well, it fails with this message [19:26] <netrunner> scripts/Build-Pkg: /usr/bin/time -o "$root/var/adm/cache/$xpkg.tm" \ [19:26] <netrunner> is there no shell variable that contains the actual time? [19:26] <mnemoc> nope [19:27] <mnemoc> type -p time :p [19:27] <th> netrunner: where is time at knoppix? [19:27] <th> lol [19:28] <netrunner> no time there. [19:28] <th> i've no time either ;] [19:34] <mnemoc> Emerge time doesn't work? [19:36] <netrunner> mnemoc: probably not, it needs time to create the unique id :) [19:37] <mnemoc> my branch use dd if=/dev/urandom to do that [19:40] <netrunner> maybe it's just to display the time, at least it fails there :) [19:41] <th> netrunner: echo "#!/bin/sh\necho \"it's late\"" > /usr/bin/time ; chmod 755 /usr/bin/time [19:41] <mnemoc> LOL [19:43] <netrunner> 3 [19:44] <netrunner> th: read only fs [19:44] <th> netrunner: that's bad [19:45] <th> netrunner: try to extract buildbootstrap packages [19:45] <th> about 200MB of package date [19:45] <netrunner> th: not now. [19:45] <th> netrunner: ok. [19:54] <mnemoc> netrunner: mount -t tempfs /mnt/foo; cp -dR /usr/bin/* /mnt/foo; mount -t tempfs /usr/bin; cp -dR /mnt/foo /usr/bin; umount /mnt/foo ^^ [19:55] <th> mount --bind /mnt/foo /usr/bin [19:55] <th> ;> [20:02] <mnemoc> cheaper :) [20:09] <mnemoc> https://www.kaffe.org/ <--- do you know this? [20:16] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EA633.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [20:32] <netrunner> -bash: /usr/bin/pstoimg: /R.build/athlon_mp-2.0.1-x86-athlon-mp-32-generic-expert/root/usr/bin/perl: bad interpreter: No such file or directory [20:33] Togg (~sweitzel@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:36] BoS (~BoS@dialin-145-254-169-132.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:38] BoS (~BoS@dialin-212-144-071-134.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [20:39] <mnemoc> netrunner: knoppix? [20:40] <netrunner> rock [20:43] <netrunner> anybody here has experience with paris public transport? [20:44] <th> it's called "metro" [20:44] tcr (~tcr@p54879CF4.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:45] <th> https://www.schaepp.de/metro/ [21:27] <treo> I'm sick -.-' so I'll go sleeping now [21:27] <treo> cya [21:27] treo (~xfman@D9814.d.pppool.de) left #rocklinux ("und wech ..."). [21:50] De_Elsasser (~eric@ANancy-110-1-7-130.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:50] <pennemops> re [21:56] Action: netrunner just printed 20 pages info about paris :) [22:02] <tfing> netrunner: when is it that you are coming ? [22:02] <netrunner> tfing: my plane goes tomorrow 10:50 [22:02] <tfing> oh [22:02] <netrunner> only for the weekend. [22:04] <tfing> that's still nice [22:04] <tfing> i hope you 2 will have a sweet weekend ;) [22:05] mnemoc_ (~amery@200.75.27.52) joined #rocklinux. [22:05] <netrunner> tfing: yes, full plan :) [22:07] mnemoc (~amery@200.75.27.42) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:15] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EA633.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Money underrun - Disconnecting..." [22:31] <fake> moin [22:31] <th> moin fake [22:32] <fake> so it's gonna be six weeks... *sigh* [22:32] <th> hmm? [22:32] <fake> i'm gonna be AFK for 6 weeks, starting next wednesday [22:33] <th> AFK for 6 weeks? [22:33] <fake> AFK as in 'might get a console for a few hours in the weekend' [22:33] <fake> on weekend? whatever. [22:33] <th> what are you doing? [22:33] <fake> things... [22:33] <th> oh [22:34] <fake> th: so ask your questions to be answered by me for 2.0.3 until then ;) [22:34] <th> 2.0.3 roadmap is straight [22:35] <fake> how's the build? [22:36] <th> koffice[5] [22:36] <th> 2186 builds total, 697 completed fine, 0 with errors. [22:36] <th> i expect it to finish in about 48 hours. [22:43] <fake> hm [22:43] <fake> sw33t, [22:43] <th> jo know of the last one? [22:44] <th> sure you do [22:44] <mnemoc_> th: did you solved ldap thing? [22:45] <th> mnemoc_: yes [22:45] <th> mnemoc_: long time ago [22:45] <th> mnemoc_: it was just sasl related [22:45] <th> mnemoc_: two days ago a complete refbuild including stage9 finished with 0 errors. [22:47] <mnemoc_> zero errors? every X package? [22:47] <th> mnemoc_: ack [22:47] <th> mnemoc_: you should get this result with the current 2.0-stable head [22:48] <th> (if your build host is sane) [22:48] <mnemoc_> it is :) [22:48] <th> but i've released a build-boot-strap package set [22:48] <th> and my build machines run this [22:49] <th> mnemoc_: and you can have a look at my TODO in rock-wiki to see a 2.0.3 roadmap [22:50] <th> mnemoc_: perhaps i can convince you to end your fork today and contribute to 2.0-stable again? ;-) [22:50] <mnemoc_> this wee.... month i can do almost nothing [22:51] <mnemoc_> i guess i'll to a second branch of my stable branch to create patches for the updates and fixes only [22:51] <th> grammar? [22:52] <mnemoc_> i guess i'll [have] to [make] a second branch of my stable branch to create patches for the updates and fixes only [22:52] <th> ahh i see [22:53] <th> how does your current branch differ from 2.0-stable? [22:55] <fake> what is a good name for -O3 opt. ? [22:55] <th> fanaticism? [22:56] <daja77> das is ja lahm [22:57] <fake> daja77! hi! [22:57] <fake> how's ireland? [22:58] <daja77> hi fake [22:58] <daja77> damn wrong chan ^^ [22:58] <daja77> ireland was nice [22:58] <daja77> i am back home again [22:59] <fake> i guessed so - no internet cafe's there? only pubs? *g* [23:01] <daja77> there are plenty of internet cafes there [23:01] <daja77> but they are expensive ... [23:03] <fake> douh. [23:03] <mnemoc_> th: rock-2.0-mnemoc (my stable) has some extra packages and some updates which don't merge in rock-trunk, some tiny tools, improvements to work with runit and my target [23:04] <mnemoc_> rock-2.0-devel has lot of uncommited changes which demotivate me to start commiting [23:04] <th> "which don't merge" as in "which can't merge cause XYZ" or "which i don't want to merge"? [23:05] <fake> mnemoc_: 2.0-devel != 2.1-dev ! [23:05] <mnemoc_> i work over 2.0, so my patches would fail to apply on trunk, and as i don't want to send you changes not approved on trunk i should take the time to create an rock-2.1-mnemoc [23:06] <mnemoc_> fake: rock-2.0 -> rock-2.0-mnemoc -> rock-2.0-devel [23:06] <mnemoc_> fake: using some nasty 'fixes' to submaster structure [23:06] <fake> but rock-2.0 doesn't have many uncomitted changes! [23:06] <fake> only a few at a time [23:07] <mnemoc_> fake: my pacakges are _very_ outdated on trunk [23:07] <fake> trunk is NOT rock-2.0! [23:07] <mnemoc_> fake: i guess i know that [23:07] <netrunner> fake: there is a 2.1/trunk and a 2.0/trunk [23:08] <fake> if you forked off 2.0.0 then your packages should work with 2.0.x [23:08] <fake> netrunner: there is a rock-linux/trunk and a rock-linux/branches/2.0-stable [23:08] <mnemoc_> fake: yes, i can send lot of updates to 2.0 but i _think_ i should send them to 2.1 first [23:08] <pennemops> gn8 [23:08] <fake> mnemoc_: of course, that would be *perfect* ;) [23:09] <fake> n8 owl! [23:09] <fake> netrunner: did you read what i wrote about bt-sco yesterday? [23:09] <mnemoc_> that's where my problem is, i have had no time to merge my changes to a rock-2.1-mnemoc [23:09] <mnemoc_> to send patches to rock-2.1 [23:09] <netrunner> fake: no. [23:09] <fake> *grmbl* [23:10] <fake> playing that idling game again? ;) [23:10] Action: netrunner browsing to .irclog [23:10] Action: fake tired... [23:10] <fake> drink coffe, stay up and do some stuff or [23:10] <fake> drink beer, watch a movie and go to sleep... [23:10] <fake> .. hm ... [23:12] <netrunner> fake: I left right after that, earn a bit money with designing home networks ... and creating a new hotspot :) [23:12] <netrunner> fake: the include didn't help me. [23:12] <netrunner> fake: it just shifted the problem to other errors, dependencies on headers I only found in 2.6 [23:12] <netrunner> fake: I will retry it on monday or so. [23:13] mistik1 (rasta@ool-44c02704.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:13] <fake> netrunner: i must admit, i didn't test it [23:14] <fake> this append-to-cutsom-kernel-config-thing is ugly... somehow... [23:22] <netrunner> fake: why? one could invent an automatism for that ... but it works. [23:22] <netrunner> var_append kernel_yes "BLUBBER_BLA" [23:23] <netrunner> var_append kernel_mod "FOO_BAR" [23:23] <netrunner> var_append kernel_no "ME_NOT" [23:23] <netrunner> oh ... with weightings maybe. [23:24] <netrunner> and automatic exlusitivity. [23:24] <fake> sure it works, but not as i'd expect it. i don't want my kernel config to be modified, if i supply it, for example. [23:24] <fake> but that's not too important, after all, just 2 packages do it. [23:24] <netrunner> fake: then don't select the options. [23:24] <netrunner> fake: this is why they are off by default [23:24] <fake> i dont ;) [23:25] <netrunner> 3 [23:25] <netrunner> I know of bootsplash, uml_utilities and now bt-sco [23:25] <netrunner> I like it. I also like the conditional kernel patching. [23:25] <fake> oh, i wasn't aware of uml_utilities [23:25] <netrunner> my baby. [23:26] <netrunner> and it works, surprisingly :) [23:26] <fake> hehe. [23:26] <fake> self-esteem-problems? [23:26] <netrunner> fake: scripts/Create-UMLRootfs [23:27] <fake> i've seen it flying by the bash tabcompletion, but never used it, to be honest. [23:27] Action: fake was in munich all day [23:27] <fake> i thought about calling you so we could hack a bit [23:27] <netrunner> is only half-complete. it can create the fs, autoguess a size, and copy everything. [23:27] <fake> but then i decided to call a nice, young, good-looking female friend first - and she had time, so... ;)) [23:28] <netrunner> fake: [X] send pix [23:28] <netrunner> fake: [X] send number :) [23:28] <fake> netrunner: that remindes me, i indeed did a cool pic [23:28] <fake> it's on my cellphone... let's see if obexftp now works. [23:28] <netrunner> yes, those new cellphones do a good job as spycam [23:29] <fake> actually, she told me to take it [23:29] <netrunner> I am not sure if I want to know all details [23:29] <th> fake: forget about obexftp [23:29] <th> fake: use obexserver [23:30] <th> fake: [2004091202432223192] [23:30] <fake> mkay [23:30] <fake> obexftp sucked. i couldn't change into my 'Images' folder. [23:31] <fake> then i compiled kdebluetooth and didn't bother looking at obexftp again ;) [23:31] Action: netrunner going to bed, n8 [23:32] <netrunner> cu monday [23:33] Action: fake wants ARP for bluetooth [23:35] <fake> n8 netrunner [23:44] <fake> it doesn't work :( [23:44] <th> fake: what does not work? [23:44] <fake> obexserver [23:45] <th> i use it [23:45] <th> fake: gimme details [23:45] <fake> 'connection failed' on my cellphone [23:45] <th> fake: started hcid and sdpd? [23:46] <th> fake: used sdptool to add OPUSH channel? [23:46] <fake> jep [23:46] <fake> no. [23:46] <th> sdptool add --channel=10 OPUSH [23:47] <fake> nothing... [23:48] SeFoKumA (~zienaga@61.Red-81-44-200.pooles.rima-tde.net) joined #rocklinux. [23:48] SeFoKumA (~zienaga@61.Red-81-44-200.pooles.rima-tde.net) left #rocklinux ("Abandonando"). [23:49] <fake> it's not in the service list [23:49] <fake> grmbl [23:50] <fake> aaah [23:50] <fake> now it works. [23:50] <fake> kewl... [23:51] <fake> https://f4k3.net/~fake/the-fake.jpg [23:52] <fake> obexserver is cool [23:52] <th> fake: that's why netrunner packaged it [23:52] <fake> is there some kind of howto attached? [23:52] <fake> or readme or manpage or something? [23:52] <th> for doing what? [23:52] <th> no [23:53] <th> just the plain source [23:53] <fake> that i remember to do sdptool add --channel=10 OPUSH ;) [23:53] <th> [D] 3091185351 obexserver.c https://www.frasunek.com/sources/unix/ [23:53] <th> fake: that info is in my personal repository of knowledge ;) [23:54] <fake> svn co svn://teha/trunk th-brain [23:54] <th> th/knowledge/blue.txt [23:54] <th> and it's still cvs [23:54] <fake> svn cp svn://th/knowledge/blue.txt svn://fake/knowlegde/blue-from-th.txt [23:54] <fake> oh my [23:55] <fake> that's why that last command failed [23:55] <th> i created that repo "Apr 18 2001" [23:55] Action: fake doing a 'transmeta crusoe' optimized build for testing... [23:56] <fake> o_O [23:56] <fake> why exactly on 18th of april?\ [23:56] <fake> that date reminds me of something [23:56] <fake> it's rene's ex-girlfriend's birtday [23:56] <fake> .oO( why do i know that ? ) [00:00] --- Fri Sep 17 2004