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--- Log opened Fri Sep 24 00:00:47 2004 00:07:40ωνω Signoff mnemoc: #rocklinux (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:14:25ωνω Signoff mistik1: #rocklinux (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:14:35ωνω mistik1 [rasta@ool-44c02704.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:21:01ωνω BoS [~BoS@dialin-145-254-078-156.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:08:44ωνω mtr [~Michael@Ga04f.g.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 03:17:26ωνω netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 03:17:28<netrunner> moin 03:42:27ωνω tcr [~tcr@p54879D4C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:57:02ωνω Togg [~sweitzel@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:19:30ωνω [anders2] [~snafu@blueice2n1.uk.ibm.com] has joined #rocklinux 04:31:20ωνω Signoff tcr: #rocklinux (Remote closed the connection) 04:41:16* netrunner doing a new sm create since suddenly package/x11/xfree86 vanished 04:53:05<daja77> sm recreate ^^ 05:06:50<netrunner> oh.. 05:10:57<daja77> but mv your download dir to somewhere else before ;) 05:11:35<netrunner> it does some evil rm -rf? 05:14:26ωνω Signoff Togg: #rocklinux (Remote closed the connection) 05:15:32<daja77> everything what's inside your working copy yes 05:51:45ωνω BoS is now known as BoS^garden 06:19:59ωνω Togg [~sweitzel@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has joined #rocklinux 06:20:17* netrunner started new build. 07:11:51ωνω mX5 [~mX@p5085164C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:12:26<mX5> hi 07:13:36<mX5> does somebody know something about adsl & usb modem with linux?? 07:41:01ωνω jmaier [~jmaier@pD958ED91.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:41:46ωνω jmaier [~jmaier@pD958ED91.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux () 07:48:50ωνω mX5 [~mX@p5085164C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #rocklinux () 08:40:56ωνω rugek_ [~rugek@port-195-158-167-94.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 08:40:56ωνω Signoff rugek: #rocklinux (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:51:25ωνω madtux [~mike@ip201-133-122-200.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 09:51:26<madtux> hello 09:51:42<daja77> hello miguel 09:58:27<madtux> Hola Daniel :) 09:58:34<daja77> :) 10:10:50ωνω treo [~xfman@D94ff.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:11:12<treo> moin :D 10:39:28<mnemoc_> moin 10:54:31ωνω Signoff BoS^garden: #rocklinux (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:25:28<blindcoder> moin 11:26:21ωνω You're now known as mnemoc 11:31:38ωνω [anders2] [~snafu@blueice2n1.uk.ibm.com] has left #rocklinux ("Client exiting") 11:38:12ωνω madtux [~mike@ip201-133-122-200.ct.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Leaving") 13:07:03<treo> PARTY!!!!! 13:07:06ωνω Signoff treo: #rocklinux ("cya@all") 13:30:40ωνω Signoff DieTerkE_: #rocklinux (Remote closed the connection) 13:47:57<blindcoder> hmm 13:48:07<blindcoder> I probably should update my packages more often... 13:48:29<blindcoder> both xjdic and hddtemp had databases ~1year old 13:58:49<blindcoder> well, at least that's also true for the changelog... 14:00:38<daja77> hehe 14:01:32<blindcoder> daja77: ROCK's changelog... 14:01:43<blindcoder> https://www.rocklinux.net/changelog/ 14:02:31<th> not bad 14:02:32<daja77> there is a newer one iirc 14:02:41<blindcoder> well... WHERE? 14:03:45<daja77> there was that thing autgenerated from svn commit logs which rene did before he left 14:04:11<blindcoder> AFAIR that's only in svn, no? 14:05:11<daja77> dunno 14:13:55<th> at least it's generatable from svn 14:14:52<blindcoder> yeah, but only few people are going to read that if the last entry on the web is 2 years old... 14:15:17<blindcoder> anyway, gotta take a bath, I'll meet up with Judith in ~2hours 14:15:19<blindcoder> bye 14:15:24<th> you did not get the point of what i was saying 14:16:56<daja77> th: erhm he is thinking of judith, so don't expect much 14:17:08<th> daja77: ahh i see ;> 14:26:06ωνω Signoff skaar: #rocklinux ("Booze is the answer. I don't remember the question.") 14:54:25ωνω link_ [~link_@adsl.xan.ch] has joined #rocklinux 15:01:32ωνω sickboy [~marc@cpc1-pmth3-3-0-cust160.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has joined #rocklinux 15:03:12ωνω Signoff sickboy: #rocklinux ("BitchX: No windows left!") 15:09:17<blindcoder> :P 16:09:34ωνω Signoff link_: #rocklinux ("leaving") 16:46:55ωνω gman_ [~gman@Toronto-HSE-ppp3887112.sympatico.ca] has joined #rocklinux 16:47:06<gman_> hello all 16:47:48<gman_> Hey Serwou, i know where you hang out now 16:49:11<gman_> I need help compiling certain packages for rock linux 2.0.3 16:50:15<gman_> utils-linux wont compile... neither will sysklogd, linuxdrm, e2fsprogs, lilo and apmd 16:51:51<gman_> i got all the latest package on my build environement, which is gentoo 16:53:35<gman_> its says, cannot compile the package cause it was not build in the current stage... 16:56:13<gman_> hmm, am I speaking to myself 16:56:14<gman_> ? 16:58:30<gman_> Damn 17:03:35<th> hi gman_ 17:03:40<gman_> hi 17:03:47<th> gman_: you have devfs? 17:03:53<gman_> yes 17:04:06<th> what target are you trying to build? 17:04:13<th> cross build or nativ? 17:04:26<gman_> generic with minimal+xfree template... 17:04:50<gman_> native, pentium 4 optimization on a pentium 4.. 17:04:51<th> in which stage do the packages fail? 17:05:13<th> and please put build/*/root/var/adm/logs/*.err online somewhere 17:05:29<th> are you building as root? 17:05:38<gman_> yes im building as root 17:06:11<gman_> im putting it online now... 17:06:16<th> ok 17:06:57<th> gman_: in fact i'm currently running a complete build (all packages / reference) for the top most sources. 17:07:00<th> 2186 builds total, 723 completed fine, 0 with errors. 17:07:09<th> and yesterday one finished with 0 errors 17:07:19<th> but my build host was a rock build bootstrap 17:07:21<th> not gentoo 17:07:31<th> there MIGHT be problems 17:07:44<gman_> thats what i was thinking... 17:07:51<th> where did you get the source from? 17:08:04<gman_> from the rocklinux site 17:08:20<th> uh? not from a subversion checkout? 17:08:22<gman_> and run Update-Src.. 17:08:25<th> ahh ok 17:09:01<th> build/*/logs/*log would be interesting too 17:10:01<gman_> ok, btw i get errors for those packages on all stages 17:10:06<gman_> 1, 3 and 5 17:10:35<gman_> but i stopped at stage 3 because of this error... 17:10:37<th> might be the optimization a bit too high 17:10:44<th> what compiler version? 17:10:50<gman_> 3.2.3 17:10:58<th> well that's perfect. 17:11:11<th> i'm running 3.2.3 too 17:11:29<gman_> which kernel?? 17:11:38<th> 2.6.8.1 17:11:42<th> vanilla 17:11:46<gman_> ok 17:12:01<gman_> i run 2.6.8-r3 on gentoo 17:12:17<th> well i'm awaiting your err logs 17:12:24<gman_> just a minute 17:12:28<th> sure 17:13:17<th> did you configure anything else? 17:13:24<th> except generic target with pkgsel template 17:13:27<th> and p4 opt? 17:13:55<gman_> hmm, the kernel version by default, i put it to 2.6.7 17:14:20<th> hmmm 17:14:30<th> i never touch the kernel version 17:14:45<th> cause i'm always building a vanilla kernel for the hosts i run 17:15:22<gman_> ok..uploading logs now... 17:16:03<gman_> but i doubt thats the problem... 17:16:30<gman_> i tried 5 times with diffenrent setting, and always the same packages that wont compile 17:16:33<th> i'm interested in config/*/packages too 17:17:21<gman_> ok, but that i will change it....i need to put some additionnal packages in, like tcsh, qt, openmotif... 17:18:18<th> gman_: perhaps you should better create your own pkgsel by copying one of misc/pkgsel/*in 17:19:03<gman_> ok, but it does the same as changing config/*/packages right?? 17:19:18<th> not quite 17:19:33<th> you can still run ./scripts/Config after changing the pkgsel 17:19:45<gman_> cool, 17:20:02<th> in fact you even need to select YOUR pkgsel in Config 17:20:39<gman_> ok...how i do that??, cutom packages selction rules?? 17:20:47<th> it's just sed 17:21:07<th> have a look at desktop.in for example 17:21:16<th> it's all one big sed command 17:21:23<gman_> ok 17:21:31<th> the first block: 17:21:33<th> # Disable packages 17:21:33<th> sendmail / { s/^X /O /p; d; }; 17:21:41<th> it's all about X and O 17:21:44<th> X is selected 17:21:49<th> O is deselected 17:21:58<th> { s/^X /O /p; d; } changes X to O 17:22:00<gman_> yea, like in config/*/packages 17:22:01<th> so it deselects. 17:22:29<th> that way you can use regular expressions to do your pkgsel 17:22:42<gman_> ok 17:23:34<gman_> logs are on the way...so rry for my slow server... 17:23:51<th> so if you just want to add some packages to minimal+xfree just copy that file to gman.in and add / openmotif / { p; d; }; 17:24:00<th> and / tcsh / { p; d; }; 17:24:29<gman_> whats p; d; for?? 17:24:42<th> p Print the current pattern space. 17:24:46<th> d Delete pattern space. Start next cycle. 17:24:52<th> see SED(1) 17:24:58<gman_> ok 17:26:32<th> what abour the err logs? 17:27:41<gman_> theyre comming 17:28:15<gman_> https://dhost.info/theconnectingdot/logs/ 17:29:03<th> looks like broken kernel headers 17:29:09<th> make a new config 17:29:22<gman_> hmm?? 17:29:23<th> do nothing but selecting optimization, target, pkgsel 17:29:28<th> rm -rf config 17:29:34<th> ./scripts/Config 17:29:43<th> create your pkgsel before perhaps 17:30:10<gman_> reload the page 17:31:00<gman_> ok, will do 17:33:59<gman_> do i need to run ./scripts/Config be fore any ./scripts/Config -cfg *** 17:35:17<th> you don't need Config -cfg 17:36:59<gman_> how come??? in the handbook book they say, do a -cfg system and a cfg bootdisk 17:37:08<th> ahh 17:37:20<th> ok you are going to build two 17:37:38<th> you can skip -cfg for the first build 17:37:38<gman_> yes to make it bootable and installable 17:37:47<th> the config is called "default" then 17:37:56<gman_> ok 17:38:16<th> leaving -cfg away is like specifying -cfg default 17:38:30<gman_> ok 17:38:32<th> so the answer to your question is "no" 17:38:41<gman_> good then 17:39:59<th> in fact i would suggest to build only one target (your pkgsel) 17:40:06<th> that will create packages for you 17:40:18<th> you can install them using a read-for-boot rescue target then 17:40:30<th> that would mean not using the installer 17:40:36<th> but doing it the manual way 17:41:17<netrunner> f***ck 17:41:21<gman_> ok, should i use .gem or tar.bz2 binary pkgs? 17:41:26<netrunner> 800MB not enough any more for gcc :( 17:41:52<th> gman_: it's not big difference. if you use tar you can use your own rescue and install the system by using foreach and tar xfI 17:42:02<th> gman_: but i'd suggest gem and using our rescue 17:42:18<gman_> ok 17:42:19<th> netrunner: what's up? 17:43:06<gman_> do I need to run paranoia checks?? 17:43:24<th> they are good for you! 17:43:25<netrunner> th: I started a build before going to billiard. now coming back I see many packages failed, beginning with 2-gcc34 which failed because no space left. 17:43:33<netrunner> th: I usually build in a 800MB tempfs 17:45:16<th> i heared that 800MB is too small 17:45:47<netrunner> th: it was enough until gcc34 17:46:07<th> netrunner: ye 17:46:08<th> s 17:46:11ωνω mX5_yO [~mX@p50850AB4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:46:47<netrunner> gotta buy more ram. have to order stuff anyway next week. 17:46:54<mX5_yO> does somebody know how adsl usb modem works with rock? 17:47:09<netrunner> mX5_yO: plugnpray :) 17:47:25<mX5_yO> ;) 17:47:33<gman_> brb 17:48:31<th> mX5_yO: this is the wrong channel for such questions; you are repeating yourself 17:53:09<daja77> not completely wrong 17:53:32<th> daja77: well - as he started repeating himself i only read the first of these two question 17:53:48<daja77> ic 17:53:49<th> daja77: as i notice no he modified it a bit and changed "linux" to "rock" in his question 17:53:59<th> s,no he,now he, 17:53:59<daja77> yep 17:55:19<netrunner> th: well, it does not change anything. the reply then is, depends on the configuration you used to build your personal distribution with rock. 17:55:29<th> netrunner: exactly 17:55:37<netrunner> th: but on the other hand, we are known as nice people that help the world ... :) 17:55:54* netrunner feeling something glowing above his head 17:56:02<th> mX5_yO: well it works this way: find out how to get your modem working with linux. then build your distribution and apply your knowledge. 17:56:54<netrunner> mX5_yO: and ... if you ask, try to pack more information in your question. there are about more than hundred different usb adsl modems I'd bet. 17:57:09<netrunner> depending from country to country different manufacturers 17:57:20<th> i'm in a too bad mood to be helpful/friendly with that for now.. sorry 17:58:29<daja77> calm down 17:59:09ωνω Signoff mtr: #rocklinux ("ChatZilla 0.9.45 [Mozilla rv:1.6a/20031029]") 18:00:20<netrunner> oh, the next ceo gettin nervouse :/ 18:01:51<th> daja77: no matter to worry... 18:01:57<th> daja77: i'm off for today :) 18:02:08<th> netrunner: talking of me? 18:03:04<daja77> sleep well th 18:03:12<th> it's just me worried about private issues. 18:03:20<th> cya later 18:04:06<netrunner> th: :) 18:16:32<gman_> anyone ever build Rock on Gentoo? 18:19:00<netrunner> gman_: probably. 18:19:12<gman_> if not, anyone got a Rock Linux Live Cd so i can build Rock on it? 18:20:26<gman_> netrunner; i havnt have luck yet 18:20:38<gman_> some packages wont compile 18:20:39<netrunner> n8 th 18:20:47<netrunner> daja77: https://www.php.de/ftopic20453.html ... 3rd message ??? 18:21:12<netrunner> gman_: you could make .err files online available so one can have a look and give you hints. 18:21:13<gman_> but retrying now with th's advices 18:21:31<netrunner> gman_: ah, you already had help :) 18:21:48<gman_> hehe yea....hope it gets me somewhere 18:23:14<daja77> netrunner: the cd from rxr? 18:24:11<daja77> that debian troll sucks 18:24:26<netrunner> daja77: what magazine contained a cd with rock? 18:24:49<daja77> it was the last project rene did 18:25:01<gman_> i think the Rock Linux website needs to be revamped 18:25:14<daja77> *gg* 18:25:34<daja77> dev_null = owl? *grin* 18:25:43<gman_> i propose to make a new design.. 18:26:15<daja77> gman_: create a design which fits into typo3 and go for it 18:26:33<gman_> lol...ok sorry, nevermind 18:27:07<daja77> no really if you feel like, nobody will be angry about that 18:27:13<daja77> like it* 18:28:19<gman_> my designs include some flash, so nevermind 18:28:50<daja77> ugh 18:29:04<gman_> lol 18:29:13<netrunner> gman_: the site should be viewable with w3m. 18:29:18<daja77> flash is nice for games, but for what else? 18:29:53<gman_> interactive menus, nothing you cant do with action scripts 18:30:24<netrunner> *lol* Der geekigste Stand war meiner Meinung nach RockLinux. Wer die gesehen 18:30:24<netrunner> hat, weiί warum. 18:30:39<netrunner> (lt2004 - some comment on some forum) 18:32:05<gman_> anyone into 3d? 18:32:28<daja77> interactive menus? you need that in the web? 18:32:55<gman_> nevermind daja77, do like i never said nothing 18:33:39<daja77> hm whatever 18:41:25<netrunner> gman_: 'the art of webdesign' is not very favoured by people digging on the basics of linux :) 18:41:47<netrunner> (at least what some people's idea of this art is) 18:42:35<netrunner> the nice thing about rocklinux.org is, you can view it in w3m and it still looks nice. this is hard to acomplish. 18:48:53ωνω kasc_ [kasc@dsl-213-023-208-074.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:52:00ωνω Signoff kasc: #rocklinux (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18:52:01ωνω kasc_ is now known as kasc 18:55:23<gman_> netrunner: i noticed, i shouldved said nothing 18:55:47<netrunner> gman_: this is free speech, also here :) 18:56:23<daja77> yep 18:56:27<gman_> im not a Linux Guru freak, i just want the best Linux Distro ;) 18:56:47<daja77> that's fine for us 18:56:52<gman_> i do 3d and webdesign...not programing 18:57:10<gman_> well....a bit of programming....no choice 18:57:59<gman_> and you dont make any money ( which i need) by doing some text based web pages 18:58:35<daja77> oogle does it quite well ;) 18:59:03<daja77> google 18:59:29<gman_> hehe, yes, but this is different...people pay for designs.. 18:59:41<gman_> they want some moving stuff, 18:59:57<gman_> they want interactivity... 19:00:59<daja77> that's why so many pages are not usable :/ 19:01:01<gman_> Google can be accessed by a cellphone web browser... 19:01:32<mnemoc> *yawn* 19:01:38<gman_> this is debate that could go on for weeks.... 19:02:13<daja77> yeah it doesn't have to :) 19:02:45<gman_> anyways, i am getting payed to do some flash moving around stuff... 19:03:26<gman_> so i dont complain..text based page is not bad....its just that my clients dont want any.. 19:03:55<mnemoc> daja77: what the command to turn a 2.0 download dir into 2.1 without loosing 2.0 support? 19:25:18<netrunner> mnemoc: let scripts/Download move it and then ask me for my script that links all things hard back 19:25:47<mnemoc> is it easier that way? 19:26:16<netrunner> mnemoc: dunno. I did it this way :) 19:26:25<mnemoc> :p 19:28:02<netrunner> n8 19:28:41<netrunner> mnemoc: it's a simple find combined with a grep to get the needed package name... I can mail it if you want. 19:30:12<mnemoc> yes, please :) 19:30:22<mnemoc> i am lazy today :p 19:42:13<mnemoc> LOL 19:42:27<mnemoc> i binded download from 2.0 into 2.1 19:42:43<mnemoc> and Download --help loops forever on: 19:42:44<mnemoc> INFO: https://www.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/rocklinux/ROCK-2.0 19:42:44<mnemoc> INFO: To force a new mirror auto-detection, remove download/Mirror. 19:42:45<mnemoc> INFO: Setting proxy to proxy.gtdinternet.com:8080. 19:42:55<mnemoc> while(1); 19:44:42<mnemoc> btw, why does it want to download Mirror list before showing the help? :\ 19:45:54<mnemoc> cool, now it's looping over: 19:45:55<mnemoc> INFO: Found cached mirror URL in download/Mirror: 19:45:55<mnemoc> INFO: https://ftp.sh.cvut.cz/MIRRORS/rock/ROCK-2.1 19:45:56<mnemoc> INFO: To force a new mirror auto-detection, remove download/Mirror. 19:46:28<mnemoc> i guess i'll can't use the same download dir on both :\ 19:49:37* mnemoc trying Download --help with an empty download/ :'( 19:51:48<mnemoc> oh.... the same loop 20:11:08<mnemoc> i think this won't be easy :| 20:11:11<mnemoc> cu 20:55:28ωνω netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8CCD3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:04:00ωνω Signoff netrunner: #rocklinux (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21:33:38ωνω hannes_ [~hannes@pD902B754.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:33:48<hannes_> hi 21:33:53<gman_> hello 21:45:14<gman_> can i add a package to my build after i compiled? 21:45:21<gman_> before making a iso? 21:46:44<gman_> shouldnt be a problem right?? 21:47:52<hannes_> no =) 21:48:15<hannes_> just add the package and rebuild the target 21:49:42<gman_> and only that package will build?? 21:49:54<hannes_> jep 21:50:08<gman_> great, super cool top notch 21:50:33<hannes_> perhaps you need to rerun ./scripts/Config -cfg target -oldconfig 21:50:57<gman_> why is that?? 21:51:30<gman_> i will just add the package to the /misc/pkgsel/** 21:51:50<hannes_> did you specify a package selection? 21:52:09<gman_> yes, i made my own from the minimal+xfree 21:54:15<hannes_> yep, then add it 21:54:46<gman_> ok 21:55:16<gman_> cant wait to install it.. 21:55:51<gman_> after 5 times i tried to compile it...always with errors, this time no errors..:) 21:56:29<hannes_> no errors? 21:57:15<hannes_> this never happend to me =) 21:57:21<gman_> some packages didnt want to compile for some reasons.. but now its working 21:57:50<hannes_> cool! 21:57:54<gman_> must be because i used to specify kernel 2.6.7 as default kernel 21:58:32<hannes_> with which kernel headers? 21:58:39<gman_> 2.6 21:59:38<hannes_> than build your isos and install it! 21:59:50<gman_> another question, do you need to compile both kernels when making a build?? or can you just remove the 2.6 headers and 2.6.7 kernel package from the list 22:00:57<hannes_> i can use only a 2.4 kernel 22:01:10<hannes_> theres no need to have both kernels build and installed 22:01:31<gman_> damn... why is that by default then?? 22:01:52<hannes_> sry, don't know 22:01:55ωνω blindcod1r [~blindcode@pD958FA12.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:02:06<hannes_> just switch the kernel of, you don't want 22:02:08<hannes_> hi blindcod1r 22:02:43<gman_> anyways i will install a 2.6.8 kernel as soon as install is done 22:04:03<hannes_> 2.6.8.1 is in the current -dev 22:04:59<gman_> where can i download it? 22:06:33<gman_> also an other question, can i include any other file in /build/***/?? 22:06:43<gman_> so its in the iso 22:08:15<hannes_> no, because all the packages are located in $build/pkgs 22:08:32<hannes_> if you modify something build you can not reproduce that build 22:08:43<gman_> understood 22:08:45<hannes_> add a package etc... 22:09:25<hannes_> the installer does not only copy build to disk, instead it uses all the mine-pkgs to install the system 22:09:31ωνω Signoff blindcoder: #rocklinux (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22:10:21<gman_> ok 22:33:44<gman_> is compat-libstdc++ in the package repository? 22:39:50<hannes_> libstdc++ is normally build with gcc 22:40:22<gman_> yes but the compatibility package is not 22:40:42<hannes_> why do you need it? 22:40:56<gman_> because use maya, and maya needs it 22:41:43<hannes_> i dont't think it's in the package-repo 22:42:07<gman_> its what i thought, gonna have to install it manually afterward... 22:42:24<hannes_> i think so 22:42:55<gman_> i wanted to include it in my iso...so i dont need to install it after i installed Rock.. 22:46:18<hannes_> sry, i'dont know how to do this, i only know this package from redhat 22:47:10<gman_> its in the gentoo-repo.... 22:54:11<hannes_> i would suggest to install the redhat rpms 22:54:15<hannes_> from fc2 22:54:21<hannes_> should be the easiest way 23:00:16<gman_> another question,if i add a package in my pkgsel, will it calculatate dependencies of that package and download these packages?? 23:01:43<hannes_> hmmm... i dont think so 23:02:33<hannes_> you have to know yourself what other pkgs depend on it and add them to your pkgsel 23:02:59<gman_> damn..so i have to find out every single depedencies that a packages has and add them manually??? how primitive 23:07:16<hannes_> jep :/ 23:08:28<gman_> and thats what they call "autodetected dependencies'" 23:08:43<gman_> and they dis gentoo like,..pff 23:09:09<gman_> its disapointing 23:09:43<gman_> it better be fast the system that im building to compensate 23:10:44<gman_> "automated package build" they say for rock, and "each package needs a full ebuild script" for gentoo 23:11:29<gman_> hehe, gentoo has over 8000 packages in the repo... and all over em calculate dependencies, download them, and install them for you 23:11:49<hannes_> normally someone would not change a pkgsel 23:11:58<gman_> why is that? 23:12:26<hannes_> not yet implemented, i think =) 23:13:20<gman_> hehe, what?? either i download and compile 1089 packages or just 99 packages??? what is the point of this distro if its not to customize it? 23:14:28<gman_> damn, suddenlly, im not sure anymore about this distro 23:14:36<hannes_> if you want to customize it, you also have to take care of the dependencies 23:14:48<gman_> yea... 23:15:06<hannes_> you can lookup in the cache files and simply add the packages to your selection 23:15:51<gman_> de pencies are listed in a package .cache file?? 23:15:57<hannes_> of course 23:16:05<hannes_> at the end 23:16:31<gman_> hehe and thats what they call "autodetected dependencies" over "hardcoded dependencies" 23:16:51<gman_> they are defenitly jealous of gentoo 23:17:02<hannes_> the cache files are created when doing a referencebuild and are fully autodetected 23:17:13<gman_> ah ok 23:18:22<gman_> maybe ill go smoke some marijuana to calm down 23:18:31<hannes_> do that =) --- Log closed Sat Sep 25 00:00:03 2004