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--- Log opened Sat Sep 25 00:00:03 2004 03:39:51ωνω tcr [~tcr@pD9EAA4EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:07:35<netrunne1> stupid build order problem: freetype is built after xorg 04:10:19ωνω netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 04:25:59ωνω Signoff hannes_: #rocklinux (Read error: 238 (Connection timed out)) 04:26:13ωνω hannes_ [~hannes@pD902B653.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:30:05ωνω Signoff SerWou: #rocklinux ("ChatZilla 0.9.52B [Mozilla rv:1.6/20040113]") 04:41:14ωνω Signoff rugek_: #rocklinux (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:52:41<blindcod1r> moin 04:52:47ωνω blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder --- Log closed Sat Sep 25 05:08:04 2004 --- Log opened Sat Sep 25 05:24:15 2004 05:24:15ωνω mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.55] has joined #rocklinux 05:24:15ωνω Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 21 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 21 normal] 05:24:44ωνω Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 38 secs 05:25:03ωνω Signoff Togg: #rocklinux (Remote closed the connection) 05:25:41<th> moin 05:26:59<daja77> moin th 05:27:21ωνω Signoff mnemoc: #rocklinux (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:27:36<blindcoder> moin moin 05:27:42<daja77> moin blindcoder 05:27:58<blindcoder> damn, having to keep a second svn-repo for lvp really sucks wrt keeping in sync with trunk :/ 05:36:16ωνω Togg [~sweitzel@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:44:53<th> hannes_: you could really have suggested misc/archive/showdeps.sh 05:57:34ωνω SerWou [~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #rocklinux 06:03:31<gman_> Serwou vilain! 06:06:32<SerWou> hello gman_ 06:06:41<SerWou> vilain, en quel honneur ? 06:06:50<th> gman_: how is your install going? 06:07:03<SerWou> oui 06:07:08<SerWou> gamblaman ? 06:07:50<SerWou> th, gman_ is a friend of me, i convert him from gentoo to RockLinux ;) 06:08:01<SerWou> he can see the light now, the true ;) 06:08:17<daja77> hehe 06:08:30<SerWou> yo sup' daja77 06:08:46<SerWou> he will not be a gentoo user anymore ;) 06:09:06<th> strange things happening 06:16:48* netrunner mounting his bavarian oarsch in his ledahosn 06:17:00<daja77> muhahahaha 06:17:11<daja77> send pics .. 06:17:17<netrunner> sauweda, greisligs 06:17:32<daja77> .oO (whatever) 06:18:40* netrunner complainig about the weather :) 06:18:58<daja77> hehe 06:33:10<fake> hi 06:33:13<th> hi fake 06:34:01<blindcoder> hmm 06:34:16<blindcoder> how can I activate linux24 only with 2.1? 06:34:35<fake> Config => Linux Kernel Options => [ ] build and install a linux 2.6 kernel 06:36:15<blindcoder> thanks 06:37:35<fake> SMP: *ping* 06:37:49<th> fake: i think you won't have luck 06:38:16<fake> i thought so 06:38:29* fake just curious wether the kphone update is o.k. 06:39:25<netrunner> fake: it works. 06:39:33* netrunner using it daily :) 06:44:31<netrunner> daja77: https://andreas.anvame.net/content/download/img_0363.small.jpg 06:45:12<daja77> ROFL 06:45:42<fake> netrunner: i know. SMP is just a bit picky about ppl. updating packages in his repos 06:50:41<blindcoder> hmm 06:51:04<blindcoder> why does download -rquire download linux26, gcc295 and gcc323? 06:51:38* netrunner going to wiesn, bbdl 06:51:43<blindcoder> seems like it doesn't recognize pkg=pkg yet... 06:51:46<netrunner> (be back drunk later ;) 06:51:50<fake> netrunner: uargh 06:51:52<blindcoder> netrunner: guten durscht :) 06:51:56<fake> netrunner: you are 3v1l 08:28:18<blindcoder> o_O 08:28:22<blindcoder> why is bash O? 08:31:11<blindcoder> argl... 08:31:17<blindcoder> /root/lvp/trunk/scripts/Build-Pkg: line 976: /root/lvp/trunk/src.binutils.1096112963.7443.631495218/dependencies.txt: No such file or directory 08:31:20<blindcoder> WTF? 08:32:32<fake> bash is a split-pkg 08:32:59<fake> you can enable bash2 / bash3 explicitely by saying bash=bash2 / bash=bash3 in pkgsels 08:34:24<blindcoder> bash=bash2 / { p; d; }; 08:34:27<blindcoder> / bash=bash2 / { p; d; }; 08:34:32<blindcoder> didn't really do anything 08:34:34<blindcoder> I now have: 08:34:43<blindcoder> / bash / { p; d; }; 08:34:48<blindcoder> pkgenable bash=bash2 08:34:54<blindcoder> ROCKCFGSET_PKG_BASH_DEFAULT='bash2' 08:35:56<blindcoder> that does what I want 08:36:21<fake> ROCKCFGSET_PKG_BASH_DEFAULT='bash2' is the default setting 08:36:59<blindcoder> for now, yes 08:37:15<blindcoder> I'm still not sure if lvp will build with gcc34 at all 08:38:01<blindcoder> btw, I did the same for linux and glibc 08:43:05<fake> well, you can always set the default compiler to gcc32 for your target, if you like 08:43:53<blindcoder> if I can't get it to work with 34 I will do 08:43:57<blindcoder> but I'd rather not 08:44:33<blindcoder> ok, build started 08:44:44<fake> all packages with the exception of a few rather exotic ones build with gcc 3.4 08:44:58<blindcoder> I'm now going to buy the necessary ingredients for a "Marmorkuchen" :-) 08:45:09<fake> a ) marmor 08:45:10<blindcoder> yes, but I'm quite sure libgli and/or lvp/lvp won't :/ 08:45:33<fake> they won't if the code is wrong 08:45:48<fake> it's a good thing gcc34 is more picky about some things, especially c++ 08:45:58<blindcoder> well, libgli contains partly mine and lvp/lvp 100% my code... 08:46:07<blindcoder> that's why I'm rather sure 08:46:18<fake> ... so it's your job to fix it if it's b0rken ;P 08:46:20<blindcoder> anyway, I'll be back in about 30 minutes 08:46:24<fake> cya 08:46:26<blindcoder> yes, I know *snif* 08:46:29<blindcoder> bye 08:56:07<hannes_> rehi 09:11:55ωνω Signoff mX5_yO: #rocklinux (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:14:24<fake> hi hannes_ 09:25:37<SerWou> Hello the Chan 09:27:07<fake> hello SerWou 09:27:29<SerWou> what's up mte ? 09:27:32<SerWou> mate* 09:28:55<fake> hm... nuffin. patching 2.6 kernel headers - boy, they should test that stuff 09:29:06<SerWou> well 09:29:09<SerWou> i'm sure you can help me out 09:29:13<fake> how about you? 09:29:16<fake> what's up? 09:30:12<SerWou> well, i'm back from a huge nap, i worked a lot this week, i bough a new computer case to make 1 computer with 2 old ones and some brand news HDs 09:30:43<SerWou> gonna intall Rock on this Pc for Net/mail/chat stuff, i have another for 2D/3D/Compositing 09:31:16<fake> ok? 09:31:18<SerWou> i want to format a brand new HD on rock 09:31:35<SerWou> i know fdisk ;) but how i can use it 09:32:01<fake> use cfdisk 09:32:02<SerWou> it's to find the good target HD 09:32:14<fake> cfdisk is much easier to use 09:32:23<SerWou> true 09:32:29<SerWou> i know it too in fact 09:33:16<SerWou> by defautlt, it shows me /dev/discs/disc0/disc 09:33:25<fake> yes 09:33:30<fake> that's the first disk 09:33:31<SerWou> it's a 40Go, i boot on it, i've got a brand new 160Go 09:33:48<SerWou> plugin as slave on the same IDE Cable 09:33:51<SerWou> pluged 09:34:00<fake> then it's /dev/discs/disc1/disc 09:34:49<SerWou> ok 09:35:18<SerWou> humm 09:35:20<SerWou> perfect ;) 09:35:33<SerWou> it shows me the good one : 160000Mo 09:36:12<SerWou> Thanks 09:37:15<fake> you're welcome ;) 09:38:46<SerWou> by the way, i was working on the RockLinux handbook French translation but i don't have any news... 09:39:04<SerWou> If you need some Graphim help, like HTML, Photoshop, etc... contact me 09:40:29<SerWou> by the way 09:41:08<fake> SerWou: we're always interested in graphic work, especially desktop backgrounds and cd covers 09:41:32<SerWou> so, i'm here to work for you to thanks you for your work 09:41:35<SerWou> ;) 09:42:01<fake> that's great! 09:44:01<SerWou> ok 09:44:11<SerWou> perhaps you can help me for a RedHat question too 09:44:54<SerWou> need to format 2 brand new SATA drives and i don't know how to do that 09:46:25ωνω Signoff hannes_: #rocklinux (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09:47:48<fake> phew 09:48:04<fake> i have never had anything to do with sata (unfortunately) 09:48:36<fake> but, most likely, you could read the output of 'dmesg' to find out which devices they're on 09:49:05<fake> (shouldn't redhat have some insane, horribly graphical tool for such things?) 09:49:36<SerWou> hehe 09:51:03<fake> the basic stuff to do is: cfdisk the devices, mkfs.{ext3,reiserfs... whatever fs you want} on the partX's, create mountpoint and add the device -> mountpoint mapping to /etc/fstab 09:56:02<SerWou> ok, thanks 10:02:21<fake> take care - you know what can happen if you mistype sth... 10:07:55<SerWou> true 10:25:00ωνω hannes_ [~hannes@pD902B618.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:25:05<fake> re hi hannes_ 10:25:12<fake> hannes_: see icq 10:28:12<blindcoder> rehi 10:30:05<blindcoder> fake: who can I bother about www.rocklinux.net news? clifford doesn't seem to bother... 10:30:39<fake> blindcoder: www.rocklinux.net user links? 10:30:51<fake> the news are the rss stuff from typo3 10:31:53<blindcoder> not the user links 10:32:02<blindcoder> but the one that currently only read userfriendly and dilbert... 10:32:26<blindcoder> there used to be kerneltraffic, too, but it is broken since kerneltraffic moved to kerneltraffic.org 10:32:26<fake> pfff 10:32:41<fake> no idea, that's clifford's baby 10:33:09<blindcoder> yes, but he doesn't seem to care... I already wrote him two or three mails with no response at all 10:33:44<fake> blindcoder: write to the list 10:36:06<blindcoder> https://www.rocklinux.net/lurker/message/20040401.070124.0434ae0a.html 10:39:27<fake> 2004-04-01 10:39:46<fake> that's *ages* ago 10:44:15<blindcoder> yes, indeed 10:44:37<blindcoder> that's why I got the impression that clifford simply doesn't care 11:00:58<blindcoder> hmm 11:01:00<fake> 'malcolm mittendrin' -> pro7 11:01:11<fake> (tv tip) 11:01:13<blindcoder> where can I select which automake to build? 11:01:20<fake> in the pkgsel, this time for real. 11:01:25<fake> see misc/pkgsel/* 11:02:11<blindcoder> okay, because I get aclocal-1.7 but no aclocal 11:04:59<fake> hm, you should use automake18, anyways... 11:06:32<blindcoder> ok 11:18:45ωνω giftnux [~chatzilla@dialin-145-254-172-195.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:23:42ωνω giftnux [~chatzilla@dialin-145-254-172-195.arcor-ip.net] has left #rocklinux () 11:32:19<mnemoc_> moin 11:33:35ωνω giftnux [~chatzilla@dialin-145-254-172-195.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:34:09<giftnux> Hi --- Log closed Sat Sep 25 11:38:38 2004 --- Log opened Sat Sep 25 11:40:23 2004 11:40:23ωνω mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.50] has joined #rocklinux 11:40:23ωνω Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 22 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 22 normal] 11:40:50ωνω Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 31 secs 11:43:12<giftnux> fake: would mythtv run on ppc with 64MB 11:47:56<fake> most likely not 11:48:08<fake> mythtv is a monster application 11:48:56<giftnux> What do you think is recommended? 11:53:14<fake> hm, what kind of ppc is this? 11:55:39ωνω Signoff mnemoc_: #rocklinux (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:56:08<giftnux> It is a settop box 11:56:51<giftnux> with harddisk 11:57:06<fake> i mean, which powerpc processor 11:57:23<giftnux> and a small linux in flashrom 11:57:56<giftnux> IBM 408 or so 11:59:29<giftnux> All graphic seems to inside, no additional graphic hardware. 12:02:28<fake> but it has tv-out? 12:02:53<giftnux> Yes, only. 12:13:22<fake> hm. 12:13:24<fake> tvtime? 12:14:36<giftnux> what? 12:18:34<giftnux> What did you mean with tvtime? 12:20:51<giftnux> Do you watch TV? I could watch "bundesliga" after this talk, too. 12:25:35<giftnux> cu 12:25:44ωνω giftnux [~chatzilla@dialin-145-254-172-195.arcor-ip.net] has left #rocklinux () 12:30:10<fake> bundesliga *shivers* 12:30:14<SerWou> back 12:30:18<SerWou> i have another question 12:31:06<SerWou> for example, i want to install pure-ftp, i'm going to make a script, but i would to make something like for the compilation : 12:31:08<SerWou> ./configure --with-language=french --with-welcomemsg --with-minimal 12:31:29<SerWou> how can i tell to Rock to compile it with those options ? 12:32:58<mnemoc> SerWou: you have to create a target 12:33:09<SerWou> ok ;) 12:33:12<SerWou> but how ? 12:33:30<SerWou> something like var_append confopt " " "--with-language=french --with-welcomemsg --with-minimal" in the .conf file ? 12:33:57<mnemoc> SerWou: the target may set a replacement for standard .conf file 12:34:08ωνω Signoff hannes_: #rocklinux (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:34:12<mnemoc> append that to confopt and source standard .conf after that 12:34:42ωνω hannes_ [~hannes@pD902AB08.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:35:00<SerWou> can you teach me how to built a target with this pure-ftp example ? 12:35:11<mnemoc> to create a target you can start copying another target (target/desktop -> target/mything) for example 12:36:53<SerWou> i can't see what you mean 12:37:51<mnemoc> take one existing target as your 'template' for your new one 12:38:34<mnemoc> what target did you choose on scripts/Config ? 12:41:00<SerWou> well 12:41:02<SerWou> i see 12:41:10<SerWou> it's something like var_append confopt " " "--with-language=french --with-welcomemsg --with-minimal" 12:41:45<mnemoc> on a pkg_pure-ftp.conf on target's dir 12:41:47<SerWou> what is the difference between var append confopt and var extra_confopt ? 12:42:08<mnemoc> extra_confopt is generated 12:42:21<mnemoc> --prefix= --bindir and friends 12:45:56<mnemoc> don't forget to source standard .conf on your pkg_pure-ftp.conf after doing your settings 12:46:07<mnemoc> . $confdir/$pkg.conf 12:48:05<fake> SerWou: the difference between extraconfopt and confopt is absolutely cosmetic. 12:48:27<SerWou> ok, thanks ;) 12:48:31<mnemoc> doesn't set_confopt destroy extra_confopt? 12:50:28<fake> uh 12:51:26<fake> that may well be 12:54:47<gman_> Hi all 12:56:30<gman_> Do i have to recompile everything if i didnt include readline the first time, i added it later and i give me an error on stage 1 and compiled on stage 5... 12:56:49<fake> what is the error in stage1 ? 12:57:04<gman_> C compiler cannot create executables 12:57:25<gman_> checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables 12:57:27<gman_> --- BUILD ERROR --- 12:57:38<fake> go into src.readline.{number} 12:57:54<fake> then into readline-bla, and take a look at config.log 12:58:31<gman_> the problem is that i have 7 src.realine.nuber** 12:58:37<gman_> floders 12:58:54<gman_> how do i clean them up?? 12:59:02<fake> ./scripts/Cleanup ? 12:59:16<fake> but don't clean them up NOW 12:59:22<fake> they will be deleted ALL 12:59:43<fake> you need one to find out why exactly configure failed 13:00:26<fake> and the command it tried to run and that failed is written exactly in config.log. 13:01:09<gman_> ok 13:02:03<gman_> configure:1483: error: C compiler cannot create executables 13:02:11<gman_> thats in config.log 13:03:51<fake> there has to be more 13:04:04<fake> above that line 13:04:06<gman_> configure: failed program was: 13:04:08<gman_> #line 1438 "configure" 13:04:08<gman_> #include "confdefs.h" 13:04:23<fake> smomething with gcc in it 13:04:31<fake> *something 13:05:28<gman_> what do you mean? 13:19:45<fake> a line where the command it tried to execute and the error message produced by that command (not configure's interpretation of it) is written 13:22:34<gman_> no such lines as that 13:26:18<fake> hm. 13:30:26<gman_> when i compile it doesnt tell me " the building of the package isnt possible" instead it tells me aborting package build or something 13:31:48<gman_> =[1]=> Aborted building package readline 13:33:23<gman_> is this package really needed on stage 1? it compiled without errors on stage 5... 13:36:57<fake> well, obviously not 13:37:26<fake> the only reason stage1 is built is to get an environment we can chroot into. 13:41:27<gman_> ok, so i should not bother... 13:43:06<gman_> damn i hate packages with 25 dependecies.... 13:55:29ωνω Signoff hannes_: #rocklinux (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:09:30ωνω Signoff gman_: #rocklinux ("Leaving") 16:35:12ωνω Signoff tcr: #rocklinux (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:17:24* netrunner competely drunk. 17:17:51<mnemoc> =) 17:21:09<daja77> so you can do the things from your todo now ^^ 17:21:18<netrunner> toto? 17:21:32<mnemoc> TO DO 17:21:35* netrunner wants bed. 17:21:53<mnemoc> go to sleep then :p 17:22:04<daja77> goto bed 17:22:09<netrunner> hm, build notz going well too: 920 builds total, 507 completed fine, 94 with errors. 17:22:26<netrunner> gootta look tomorrow. n9 :) 17:22:31<netrunner> s/9/8 17:22:37<netrunner> / 17:22:50<netrunner> :) 17:23:10<netrunner> cf disk with 64 mb full, must be funny pix :) 17:23:46<mnemoc> JMP bed 17:24:38<daja77> .oO (netrunner dancing 17:24:42<daja77> ) 17:26:02<mnemoc> :p 17:26:04<fake> hi 17:26:35<fake> netrunner: that reminds me, i wanted to get drunk today, too 17:27:03<fake> now if i only knew why this damn cd doesn't boot 17:27:06<daja77> hehe 17:27:09<mnemoc> fake: you missed that chance 1:30 hours ago 17:27:33<mnemoc> no, my mistake, 23:30 isn't it? 17:28:00<daja77> yep 17:28:10<fake> yes 17:28:22<mnemoc> 30 minutes, go go go 17:29:55<fake> nooo... not until the powerpc livecd boots up (DAMN IT) 17:30:21<fake> (alcohol is the wrong drug now ;) 17:31:46<mnemoc> :p 17:33:46<fake> GOT IT! 17:33:50<fake> HA! 17:33:59* fake getting beer 17:34:39<daja77> hehe 17:35:00<mnemoc> hehe 17:35:00<daja77> will be hard to get drunk through beer in half an hour 17:36:34<fake> 'druckbetankung' = 'Timeout on server dict.leo.org' 17:38:11<daja77> use another dict server 17:40:40* fake stuck in a select(... 17:41:45<daja77> it is down 17:41:54<daja77> try dict.tu-chemnitz.de 17:43:26<fake> no results 17:51:30<daja77> no? 17:51:38<fake> for druckbetankung, no 17:51:55<daja77> ah might be 17:57:41<fake> yay! 17:57:45<fake> the powerpc livecd works. 18:24:48<fake> o_O 18:25:03<daja77> n8 18:25:22<fake> n8 daja! 18:28:42<mnemoc> it worked or not? 18:30:49<fake> hdd: CD-224E, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive 18:30:56<fake> strange 18:31:03<fake> it's in the dmesg output, but not in /dev 18:32:20<mnemoc> maybe some scsi emulation missing? 18:33:11<fake> hm, should not be needed, should it? 18:33:25<mnemoc> maybe :p 18:33:30<fake> it accesses /dev/cdroms/... 18:34:03<mnemoc> scsi emulation + scsi standard cdrom device ? 18:37:29<fake> hm, so the sr module would be missing 18:37:52<fake> no 18:38:04<fake> i installed using that bootdisk with a scsi cdrom drive 18:38:35<fake> devfs=nocompat isn't it either 18:38:44<mnemoc> uhm 18:41:37<fake> mnemoc: do you have a traditional dev somewhere? 18:44:32<mnemoc> i have _one_ with devfsd, does it work? 18:45:01<fake> hm, i need the major and minor of hdd 18:46:40<mnemoc> 22, 64 18:46:52<fake> ah 18:46:54* fake trying 18:48:11<mnemoc> and? 18:48:36<fake> nope 18:48:36<fake> doesn't work 18:48:46<mnemoc> :\ 18:48:56* fake checking wether scsi emulation is switched on 18:49:00<fake> that would be useless anyways 18:49:08<fake> it's not needed on 2.6 kernels for anything anympre 18:49:41ωνω kasc_ [kasc@dsl-082-083-046-142.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:50:07<fake> hi kasc_! 18:50:33<mnemoc> fake: great to know :p 19:00:58ωνω Signoff kasc: #rocklinux (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19:01:01ωνω kasc_ is now known as kasc 19:55:28ωνω c4y0 [~c4y0@200.116.31.153] has joined #rocklinux 19:55:32<c4y0> hi! 19:56:16<mnemoc> oh 19:56:22<mnemoc> hi c4y0 19:56:27<c4y0> =) 20:08:20ωνω Signoff c4y0: #rocklinux ("iskorpitx besa mi culo!!!!!!!!!!!! XDDDDDDDDDDD") 20:40:53ωνω netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8CC6F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:58:32ωνω Signoff netrunner: #rocklinux (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:01:33ωνω blindcod1r [~blindcode@p50801F24.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:10:05ωνω Signoff blindcoder: #rocklinux (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) --- Log closed Sun Sep 26 00:00:34 2004