[00:17] <mnemoc> which is the 'revert' of ctrl-s ?
[00:17] <mnemoc> i _hate_ this feature of shell
[00:18] <daja77> hm?
[00:19] <mnemoc> ctrl-s blocks output
[00:19] <daja77> oh
[00:19] <mnemoc> ctrl-q recovers it _same_ times
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[01:28] <daja77> mnemoc: the builder ^^
[02:46] <mnemoc> hehe
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[08:06] <blindcoder> moin
[08:07] <dsoul> hi blindcoder 
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[08:53] <[anders2]> g'moin
[08:53] <dsoul> moin [anders2] 
[08:54] <[anders2]> how's tricks then?
[08:54] <blindcoder> moin [anders2] 
[08:55] <[anders2]> lo dsoul & blindcoder 
[08:56] <[anders2]> you guys are up earlyish..
[08:56] Action: [anders2] is encoding JMJ's album AERO to .flac's
[08:59] <blindcoder> early?
[08:59] <blindcoder> well, I can rarely sleep past 8 am
[09:00] <[anders2]> uhm.. sleeping past 8am is trivial, just don't go bed before 3am...
[09:01] <blindcoder> hard to do when you're ill
[09:01] <[anders2]> ah, yes. I can relate to that
[09:03] <blindcoder> thanks
[09:03] Action: blindcoder coughs a few bacteria into #rocklinux 
[09:03] Action: [anders2] goes to fetch the disinfectant spray, the *big* bottle...
[09:04] <[anders2]> at the same time, I can up the volume on Oxygen 2 on the stereo.. :)
[09:07] <blindcoder> hehe
[09:08] <[anders2]> Aerology is my fave at the moment though.. 
[09:08] <[anders2]> such a lovely beat and feel to that tune..
[09:10] <blindcoder> never heard of it
[09:11] <[anders2]> it seems to me that JMJ been producing some new music in the last few years, because until last night, I had not heard of it either
[09:13] <[anders2]> on the Aero album, there are tunes from Oxygene, Aero, Equinoxe, Rendez-Vous, Chronology, Magnetic Fields and Zoolookology
[09:13] <[anders2]> comes with both a CD and a DVD..
[09:15] Action: blindcoder has no idea what [anders2] is talking about
[09:15] <[anders2]> blindcoder: Jean Michel Jarre :-)
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[09:44] <netrunner> uaaahmoin
[10:04] <blindcoder> moin moin
[10:05] <_Lewellyn> morning those of you just waking up :)
[10:06] <blindcoder> hey, what's with us who are already awake for a long time :P
[10:08] <_Lewellyn> eh. i'm just going to bed.
[10:08] <_Lewellyn> have to visit the department of motor vehicles at 8am :P
[10:13] <blindcoder> new car?
[10:15] <_Lewellyn> no, second stolen license plate in as many months
[10:15] <blindcoder> ouch
[10:16] <[anders2]> _Lewellyn: you reckon someone is trying to clone your car?
[10:17] <_Lewellyn> [anders2]: it's a bike. and it's the only one like it in town.
[10:17] <_Lewellyn> i think it's bored kids
[10:21] <netrunner> 8am? it?s after 10am ..
[10:21] <_Lewellyn> 01.19 here
[10:22] <_Lewellyn> Sat Oct 16 01:20:03 PDT 2004
[10:22] <netrunner> _Lewellyn: and departments open on saturday there?
[10:23] <netrunner> here they rarely open during the week ;)
[10:24] <blindcoder> here the departments are rarely open at all
[10:24] <blindcoder> if you're lucky, from 10-12 am
[10:24] <_Lewellyn> netrunner: one sat a month
[10:24] <blindcoder> including being late and leaving early they are open for 30 mins :)
[10:25] <_Lewellyn> in exchange, they close the mon before.
[10:25] <_Lewellyn> which i discovered this past monday :(
[10:25] <blindcoder> well, doesn't sound too bad to me
[10:26] <_Lewellyn> well, waiting impatiently for a couple hours wondering why the hell they aren't open yet and being late to work because of it makes it worse.
[10:28] <blindcoder> oh...
[10:28] <blindcoder> okay
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[10:34] <treo> sali
[10:35] <_Lewellyn> ok. falling down now. night.
[10:37] <netrunner> n8 _Lewellyn 
[10:38] <treo> n8 _Lewellyn 
[10:38] Action: netrunner sent a patch that makes sm recreate to try to umount build,config,download before deleting them :)
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[12:17] <blindcoder> so, anyone who has a good delimiter for register_application?
[12:18] <blindcoder> ${pkg}${delimiter}${binary}
[12:22] <blindcoder> I was thinking of % or '--' or '__'
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[13:51] <fake> moin
[13:53] <blindcoder> moin moin
[14:02] <daja77> moin
[14:02] <daja77> :)
[14:06] <daja77> hm more rock 2.0 forks O_o
[14:06] <blindcoder> ?
[14:06] <daja77> on the ml
[14:07] <daja77> but i guess it is jaust a personal tree rather than a fork
[14:07] <blindcoder> you mean alan?
[14:07] <blindcoder> yes, that's what I think, too
[14:07] <daja77> yep
[14:07] <blindcoder> I also have several minor and a few big changes in my local tree that aren't in vanilla rock for one reason or another
[14:07] <daja77> is there anyone without a personal tree ;)
[14:08] <blindcoder> I don't think so
[14:08] <daja77> otherwise we would hva eno submissions 
[14:11] <blindcoder> indeed
[14:11] <blindcoder> so, I'm still not sure if I should use -- or __
[14:11] <blindcoder> or something else
[14:12] <daja77> hm what's wrong with % you suggested?
[14:12] <blindcoder> you can't use it in bash ${var%something} without problems
[14:14] Action: fake has no personal tree
[14:15] <daja77> hehe no you are submitting imediately
[14:20] <daja77> fake: any news regarding oct 30th?
[14:37] <fake> daja77: not yet, sorry
[14:37] <daja77> ok
[14:38] <fake> daja77: no, i'm too lazy to create external patches and scp them around, so i just sm send and smap them ;))
[14:40] <daja77> hehe
[14:40] <praenti> hi
[14:40] <daja77> praenti!!!
[14:40] <daja77> you are the one I am looking for
[14:41] <praenti> :-)
[14:41] <praenti> what do you need or want from me?
[14:41] <praenti> btw. what is the rescue target in detail, have seen that a few minutes ago...
[14:42] <daja77> <- loaded new kde 3.3.1 packages on his laptop, want to build them this wem and sending patches, i am not sure if you are already working on that, because you said sth about kde maintainance?
[14:42] <praenti> because i need a very small rock with editors and kernel without X
[14:42] <praenti> daja77: do that. i had not yet the time to do anything.
[14:42] <daja77> ok
[14:42] <praenti> daja77: of course you can also maintain this packages
[14:43] <daja77> we'll see
[14:43] <praenti> on some packages we have already two maintainers, like kernel and so on
[14:43] <praenti> or better say had
[14:44] <daja77> i have no problem, with that, just asking, to not have two identical patches in sm :)
[14:45] <praenti> daja77: so for the moment, write your name to maintainer. if I do s.th. on kde i will say that to you and perhaps do a second maintainer line in the desc files
[14:47] <praenti> hmm. should i build a minimal generic or should i build a rescue?
[14:47] <daja77> ok
[14:48] <praenti> hmm. as i can see a minimal generic will be better...
[14:48] Action: praenti away. has to build a minimal generic target
[14:49] <praenti> cu
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[15:47] <SerWou> Hello the chan
[16:13] <netrunner> hello the serwou
[16:13] <SerWou> what's up netrunner
[16:16] <netrunner> eth1, why? 
[16:16] <netrunner> :)
[16:17] <SerWou> got some Linux ext3 supersize block problem
[16:17] <SerWou> what's the path to mount a partition on the master disk of the first IDE controler ?
[16:18] <SerWou>   /mount -t ext3 /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0 ??
[16:18] <netrunner> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
[16:21] <SerWou> it can't see my HD
[17:53] <SerWou> guys
[17:53] <SerWou> Rocklinux use devfs ?
[17:54] <SerWou> udev ?
[17:54] <fake> devfs
[17:54] <fake> since many many yeats
[17:54] <fake> *years
[17:54] <fake> <- off, see ya
[17:55] <SerWou> ok, thanks dude
[17:55] <SerWou> see you
[17:55] <blindcoder> but due to devfs dying probably not long anymore
[18:02] <mnemoc> rehi
[18:02] <mnemoc> SerWou: how is your harddrive today?
[18:07] <SerWou> bad
[18:07] <SerWou> very bad
[18:07] <SerWou> fsck never be run on mounted partition
[18:09] <mnemoc> fsck from rescuedisk
[18:10] <SerWou> yes
[18:10] <SerWou> i think i'm loosing all my data
[18:11] <SerWou> feel bad
[18:11] <SerWou> ...
[18:11] <blindcoder> that's not half as bad as when I lost mine
[18:12] <blindcoder> 200 GB of data lost due to stupidity
[18:12] <SerWou> how are you blindcoder today ?
[18:12] <blindcoder> worst of all: my stupidity, not others :/
[18:12] <SerWou> me, i don't understand why it happens !!!
[18:12] <blindcoder> still a bit short tempered because of my illness, but that'll be better tomorrow
[18:13] <SerWou> i'm a linux newbie, a rock newbie, i'm a student, i don't have times for that now
[18:13] <blindcoder> heh, when does anyone ever have time?
[18:13] <blindcoder> I live here for 6 weeks already and my work room still is in the same mess as on day 1
[18:14] <blindcoder> at least living and sleeping room are clean :)
[18:14] <SerWou> in vacation and with my best friend, we have time for everything
[18:17] <SerWou> i don't understand what happen
[18:17] <SerWou> was downloading Rocklinux on a partition of 104GO used at 50% !
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[18:48] <SerWou> that's it blindcoder and mnemoc, i loose my System HD
[18:49] <mnemoc> oh
[18:49] <SerWou> so, i have to reinstall RockLinux
[18:49] <SerWou> i loose a loft of programs sources
[18:55] <SerWou> hda is for the first Hd, hdb is for the second ?
[18:55] <blindcoder> yes
[18:56] <SerWou> damned
[18:56] <SerWou> i can't see partitions on the second HD
[18:56] <SerWou> wtf
[18:56] <SerWou> feel baaaadddd, sick
[18:57] <netrunner> SerWou: fdisk -l /dev/discs/disc1/disc ...
[18:57] <netrunner> should show the partition table
[18:57] <SerWou> ok, thanks, let's try
[18:57] <netrunner> dmesg | grep ide
[18:57] <netrunner> should show boot information about drives.
[18:58] <netrunner> (including partitions)
[18:58] <SerWou> ok, thanks dude
[19:01] <netrunner> np :)
[19:01] <SerWou> but Problems for me
[19:01] <SerWou> beurk
[19:01] Action: netrunner going upstairs, feeling like a fridge down here.
[19:05] Action: SerWou feels better, mains datas are safe
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[21:08] <daja77> bash-2.05b# scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg generic -newdelete
[21:08] <daja77> scripts/Create-ErrList: line 2: /bin/grep: Argument list too long
[21:09] <daja77> O_o
[21:10] <mnemoc> the time to split it into a `for` has arrived
[21:11] <daja77> ?
[21:12] <mnemoc> instead of grep *, for x in $( cd $foo; ls -1 * ); do grep $foo/$x; done
[21:12] <mnemoc> or something like that
[21:13] <daja77> have a patch? ;)
[21:14] <mnemoc> nope :p
[21:15] <daja77> :)
[21:16] <daja77> would removing all kde logs help?
[21:17] <mnemoc> making Create-ErrList output useless
[21:18] <daja77> i don't care about that output, i want to rebuild kde packages to test version upgrade
[21:25] <daja77> ok rescheduled manually
[21:54] <daja77> th: ?
[21:54] <th> daja77: NAK
[21:54] <daja77> huh?
[21:55] <th> daja77: not really there
[21:55] <th> daja77: not at home ATM
[21:55] <th> but what's up
[21:55] <daja77> oh ok, juts wanted to knowif you are using gcc 3.4 for stable?
[21:55] <daja77> merging linux 2.4.27 into stabel
[21:57] <th> daja77: no
[21:57] <daja77> fine
[21:57] <th> daja77: i mainly use the default gcc of stable itself
[21:57] <daja77> that makes thinsg al lot easier
[21:57] <th> daja77: buildbootstrap pkgsel
[21:58] <daja77> and i shoudl ask you if you─ll be there next weekend
[21:58] <daja77> :)
[21:59] <th> we are still considering
[21:59] <th> but atm i don't think so
[21:59] <daja77> well tell me asap ;)
[22:01] <th> ok
[22:02] <daja77> trying test build, no complete build just to see if linux2.4.27 builds up to stage 5
[22:03] <th> yea cool
[22:04] <daja77> and trying to build kde-3.3.1 in parallel ;)
[22:04] <mnemoc> hehe
[22:06] <th> q
[22:06] <th> oups
[22:13] <th> ok off again
[22:16] <daja77> hf th
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