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[07:50] <SerWou> Hello the chan
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[08:25] <blindcoder> moin
[08:26] <SerWou> hello blindcoder
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[09:19] <blindcoder> moin tcr
[09:38] <tcr> moin blindcoder 
[09:45] <SerWou> hello tcr
[10:14] <dsoul> what happened to svn on www.rocklinux.net?
[10:17] <clifford> svn is working again..
[10:19] <blindcoder> :)
[10:38] <dsoul> thx clifford :)
[10:41] <SerWou> hey guys
[10:41] <SerWou> who knows Bluefish ? A Web development program ?
[10:41] <SerWou> the compilation was OK, but when i run it, it's an error : Segmentation error (core dumped)
[10:45] <th> mnemoc: ping
[10:49] <dsoul> SerWou same here :)
[10:50] <SerWou> wtf ?
[10:50] <SerWou> any ideas ?
[10:53] <SerWou> same error with bluefish 0.12 or 0.13
[10:57] <SerWou> dsoul, what is your kernel ?
[10:59] <dsoul> 2.4.26
[10:59] <dsoul> didnt have time to strace
[10:59] <SerWou> i'm just reporting the bug
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[11:00] <netrunne1> moin
[11:00] <SerWou> hello netrunne1
[11:01] <SerWou> spu mate ? ;)
[11:01] <nzg> moin
[11:01] <netrunne1> SerWou: might be optimization issue
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[11:11] <netrunner> SerWou: try to build it with lower optimization, eg pentium-mmx
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[11:32] <SerWou> ok netrunner
[11:34] <SerWou> thanks
[11:34] <SerWou> let's try
[11:37] <SerWou> optimization for Pentium is running
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[11:43] <SerWou> netrunner, optimization for P1 still give the same error
[11:46] <[anders2]> https://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1145960.html  <- not for the fainthearted...
[12:01] <SerWou> damned
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[12:28] <treo> sali
[12:30] Action: netrunner just bought the new aldi mp3-player. nice
[12:32] <nzg> netrunner: how much is ist?
[12:35] <netrunner> nzg: 60eur
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[13:47] <mnemoc> moin!
[13:47] <mnemoc> th: pong
[13:47] <blindcoder> moin mnemoc 
[13:48] Action: blindcoder is totally bored at the moment
[13:48] <mnemoc> nothing to code?
[13:50] <th> mnemoc: moin - wanted to talk to you about 2004100301425013691
[13:51] <th> mnemoc: that was your patch wasnt it?
[13:52] <mnemoc> let's see....
[13:52] <mnemoc> yes, it's mine
[13:53] <mnemoc> and it's the last version of it
[13:53] <th> can you tell me what it does exactly?
[13:53] <th> is it just for local directory structure?
[13:53] <th> or is it for using the same mirrors as for 2.1?
[13:53] <blindcoder> mnemoc: not since I don't know what clifford now thinks about the menu autocreation
[13:54] <mnemoc> it downloads to 2.1 locations and silently create 2.0 locations
[13:54] <mnemoc> it also moves to 2.1 structure stuff found on 2.0
[13:54] <th> and it still uses the 2.0 mirrors?
[13:54] <mnemoc> yes :)
[13:55] <th> i see
[13:55] <th> i'd the hope it wouldn't :-]
[13:55] <th> that would be interesting for 2.0 using the same mirrors
[13:55] <mnemoc> download from 2.1 if you want 2.1 mirrors :)
[13:55] <th> wipes some redundant work for housekeeping the mirror-master
[13:56] <mnemoc> if the mirror itself use this, we could use it for both
[13:56] <mnemoc> version based mirrors is a feature on rock i didn't wanted to remove
[13:58] <mnemoc> using this patch on the machine that export to the mirrors (preserving symlinks) mirror whould be 'dual'
[13:59] <th> "dual"?
[13:59] <th> hmmm perhaps my idea is a bit too intrusive... hmm
[14:01] <mnemoc> yeah... i learn some years ago to not do intrusive patch when i want something applied in short/medium (less than 4 month) time
[14:03] <mnemoc> comments?
[14:03] <treo> restarting xfce...
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[14:19] <th> mnemoc: well i don't know how to test all cases
[14:19] <th> mnemoc: and i dislike the .0 a bit. it says nothing
[14:20] <th> mnemoc: why is the mirror file renamed?
[14:20] <th> mnemoc: the same applies to s/bz2file/bz21file/
[14:20] <th> mnemoc: i like verbose names
[14:20] <mnemoc> mirror file was renamed to not conflict with 2.1's
[14:21] <mnemoc> if you share your download dir, 2.1 will add a Mirror file with the location of a 2.1 mirror which _dont_ have files for 2.0
[14:21] <th> so it should be called Mirror.stable
[14:22] <mnemoc> what will happen with 2.1-stable? that will be stable too
[14:22] <th> and bz21file is to cryptic for my taste as well
[14:22] <mnemoc> i choose to use versioning
[14:22] <th> .0 is not a version - is it?
[14:22] <mnemoc> is the version of the download structure
[14:22] <th> ahh
[14:22] <th> i see
[14:23] <th> is that version used elsewhere? or on-the-fly invented?
[14:23] <mnemoc> just invented
[14:23] <mnemoc> rock has used that scructure from looong time ago
[14:23] <mnemoc> currentl rock use a second version of download structure
[14:24] <mnemoc> in the future there can be a third
[14:24] <th> could we agree on Mirror.old, Mirror-2.0 or something more descriptive than Mirror.0?
[14:24] <th> even Mirror.v0 would be a bit better
[14:24] <mnemoc> :)
[14:24] <mnemoc> i have no problem with .v0
[14:24] <th> ok
[14:25] <th> (don't need to resend patch for that)
[14:25] <mnemoc> old and -2.0 can be problematic because you don't know the future
[14:25] <th> what about bz21file?
[14:25] <th> is that sort of bz2file_v1 ?
[14:25] <mnemoc> Download is using only short names, underscore-free
[14:25] <mnemoc> th: yes
[14:25] <th> is underscore a problem?
[14:25] <th> hyphen is
[14:25] <mnemoc> i don't think so
[14:26] <th> i don't know why we should keep at underscore-free names just for tradition
[14:26] <th> i think it's more obvious that way
[14:27] <mnemoc> that was my 'minimize the impact' principle
[14:27] <th> i see no difference in impact here. but i got your point.
[14:27] <mnemoc> if we version mirror file with .v0 i think we shall change bzfile_v0 instead of v1 
[14:28] <th> perhaps both
[14:28] <th> but perhaps not
[14:28] <th> cause we don't name Mirror.v1 that way
[14:28] <mnemoc> keeping 'current' as trunk does make merges easier
[14:28] <mnemoc> we can't rename Mirror because that cames from trunk
[14:29] <th> yes
[14:29] <th> i don't want to
[14:51] <daja77> netrunner: ?
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[15:02] <daja77> moin clifford 
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[15:21] <blindcoder> clifford: what's the problem with the splitapply patch?
[15:46] <clifford> https://www.rocklinux.net/lurker/message/20041015.135245.de400e61.html
[15:46] <clifford> don't you check your email? I sent it to the archive and to you..
[15:46] <blindcoder> hm
[15:46] <blindcoder> haven't got anything
[15:47] <clifford> argwl. s/archive/list/ 
[15:49] <blindcoder> ah, I think I know what happened
[15:49] <netrunner> daja77: yes?
[15:49] <blindcoder> if a mail is sent both to the list and to me I only get the mail once
[15:49] <daja77> have you worked on this gnupg2 sm problem a bit more, /me investigating atm
[15:49] <blindcoder> without the List-Id: header for which my .procmail parses
[15:50] <blindcoder> guess it came with a bunch of SubMaster updates (which _does_ arrive twice, once in my Inbox and once in my rock-sm box) and got deleted with them
[15:53] Action: blindcoder cat'ing the mail to his Inbox
[15:54] <netrunner> daja77: well, I now have a gpgme that found gpgsm ...
[15:54] <blindcoder> clifford: will post a revised patch once I'm home
[15:55] <netrunner> daja77: 2004_10_2015550130598
[15:55] <netrunner> (forgot to send it)
[15:57] <netrunner> daja77: but kmail still says gpgme was compiled without s/mime support :/
[15:58] <daja77> ah nice
[15:58] <daja77> will merge that with gnupg2 update ;)
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[16:42] <daja77> moin tcr
[16:56] <blindcoder> ah, so fucking booooring :/
[16:56] <daja77> ack
[16:57] <blindcoder> haven't been out for over two weeks now
[16:58] <daja77> oh
[16:59] <blindcoder> not that I knew where to go anyway
[16:59] <tcr> moin daja77 .
[16:59] <daja77> tcr: are you now studying here?
[16:59] <tcr> I'm not /that/ mad yet :)
[16:59] <daja77> hehe
[17:00] <tcr> Still over one year left until Abi anyway.
[17:00] <daja77> ic
[17:02] <tcr> I heard you finished?
[17:03] <daja77> not yet
[17:04] <tcr> Any interesting Lecture I should visit? Marcel took Elektro* foo which I find damn boring (mind you, IIRC, your Diplomarbeit is about that stuff)
[17:06] <daja77> no it is not, hm really interesting lectures ...
[17:06] <tcr> I wasn't in any. Don't feel like I'd like it
[17:08] <daja77> well perhaps echtzeitsysteme could be interesting
[17:09] <th> hmm /me feels some rt hassle...
[17:12] <blindcoder> urgs
[17:12] <blindcoder> boss visiting on friday
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[18:45] <treo> cya
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[20:21] <blindcoder> note to self: don't do a svn up for 746 revisions if you want to use the tree within 45 minutes :/
[20:21] <th> uhh
[20:21] <blindcoder> my old 500 MHz machine isn't so good in doing that :)
[20:21] <th> blindcoder: i suppose your server is too slow ;)
[20:21] <blindcoder> it's the ROCK Linux trunk
[20:22] <th> well so - yes - your server is too slow ;)
[20:22] <blindcoder> :)
[20:23] <blindcoder> th: that's nothing compared to the task before that machine: compiling X, vnc and icewm
[22:09] <netrunner> that icewm is not really capable of xinerama, hm?
[23:12] Action: netrunner preparing removal of package/xfce4
[23:12] <netrunner> can anybody tell me why I don't have the keys     and  in some windowmanagers?
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