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[04:11] <mnemoc_> in addition to 'dia' there is any good tool to do UML diagrams?
[04:25] <mnemoc_> umbrello looks good but need kde*
[04:26] <mnemoc_> umlgraph seems ok too, but written in java.... /me rebuiling gcc to include gcj
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[08:33] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder
[08:33] <blindcoder> moin
[08:36] <dsoul> hi blindcoder 
[08:40] <blindcoder> hmm, we need gdk-pixbuf in Crystal
[08:40] <th> moin
[08:44] <blindcoder> moint th
[08:48] <th> hmm firefox update
[08:48] <th> no direct dependencies on it
[08:48] <th> hmmm.
[08:48] <th> dare an update in stable?
[08:49] <blindcoder> try it
[08:49] Action: blindcoder fighting with cystal
[08:51] <SerWou> Hello the Chan
[08:51] <blindcoder> moin SerWou 
[08:52] <SerWou> sup blindcoder
[08:54] <blindcoder> soup? no thanks, just had breakfast
[08:55] <hannes_> hi!
[08:57] <SerWou> you had your breakfast... I bet you ate a Clown ;)
[09:01] <blindcoder> SerWou: no, just some cereals
[09:02] <blindcoder> moin hannes_ 
[09:02] <th> cereal-clown
[09:08] Action: blindcoder squeezes his red nose *hooonk*
[09:13] <blindcoder> hmm
[09:13] <blindcoder> should I patch xscreensavers Makefile or move gtk+s installed headers around?
[09:17] <blindcoder> moving headers is dirty :/
[09:45] <th> ok i'm going for a new refbuild
[09:46] <th> blindcoder: could you please emphasis on your next newsflash that 2.0.3 release is waiting for a lvm/lvm2/device-mapper cleanup?
[09:48] <blindcoder> th: grep 2\.0 ROCK-TODO: tons of updates to 2.0-trunk. waiting for lvm2 cleanup until 2.0.3
[09:48] <th> what a file is ROCK-TODO?
[09:48] <blindcoder> th: the TODO file for my Newsflashes :-)
[09:48] <th> ahh cool
[09:49] <blindcoder> I would forget half of it if I didn't write it down :/
[09:49] <th> perhaps you could name the problem in some more detail. lvm and lvm2 share the same filenames. there is some lvm-common package that would solve the issue
[09:49] <blindcoder> WEE, finally xscreensaver builds in crystal :)
[09:49] <blindcoder> th: *taking notes*
[09:50] <th> hmmm i can't remember what the device-mapper problem was
[09:50] <th> blindcoder: i'll let you know if i remember that
[09:51] <th> blindcoder: SMP said he would care about that - but he's very short on time lately
[09:52] <blindcoder> th: please do so.
[09:53] <th> let's see if i can adapt your svn patch to stable
[09:56] <th> can i use ${ROCKCFG_PKG_APACHE_PREFIX} in stable?
[09:56] <th> ahh
[09:56] <th> that's just a config
[09:57] <th> blindcoder: i guess that patch still does not work without apache?
[09:58] <th> not sure wether it should
[10:00] Action: netrunne1 wonders why his new package with the nice custmain ignores the prefix= and then fails at a point wehere it does not fail in ./debug.sh 
[10:00] <th> netrunne1: perhaps the package hates you!
[10:01] <SerWou> hehehe th
[10:01] <netrunne1> th: xfce4
[10:01] <th> netrunne1: oh - got a big enemy
[10:01] Nick change: netrunne1 -> netrunner
[10:01] <netrunner> th: it now comes as big tarball of tarballs.
[10:02] <th> cool ;)
[10:02] <SerWou> all xfce4 are like this
[10:02] <th> saves [D] lines ;)
[10:02] <netrunner> yes, makes the xfce4-repo superfluous. but needs a custmain.
[10:03] <SerWou> i just saw Xfce core team are in my city, lol
[10:04] <blindcoder> th: why does it not?
[10:04] <th> blindcoder: because you pass "--with-apxs=/$apacheprefix/sbin/apxs" without condition?
[10:06] <blindcoder> ?
[10:06] <th> blindcoder: what are we talking about again?
[10:06] <blindcoder>  if pkginstalled apache; then
[10:07] <blindcoder> that's a condition for me
[10:07] <th> thats just for splitting
[10:07] <th> oh
[10:07] <th> perhaps i should read not just the patch file
[10:08] <th> it was just one line out of the patch's context
[10:08] <blindcoder> :)
[10:08] <th> sorry for that
[10:08] <blindcoder> no problem :)
[10:08] <blindcoder> but does anyone know how this fscking pkgfilter in 2.1 works?
[10:09] <blindcoder> no matter what I try I can't disable subversion=subversion-static
[10:09] <netrunner> hey, that would be a cool idea to split the xfce4 thing again.
[10:11] <th> hmmm my swig has no swigpl so checking wether swig is installed is not enough
[10:11] <th> i need a 2.1 flist for swig.
[10:11] <th> anyone?
[10:11] <th> just need location of libswigpl
[10:12] <netrunner> th: I can emerge it quickly
[10:12] <netrunner> usr/lib/libswigpl.so
[10:12] <netrunner> had it already
[10:12] <th> ok thanks
[10:13] <blindcoder> th: http://scavenger.homeip.net/ROCK/sonar/search.pl
[10:13] <blindcoder> :)
[10:13] <th> ahh
[10:13] <th> forgot about that again ;)
[10:13] <netrunner> th: why do you need the location? $libdir?
[10:13] <th> netrunner: i try to add a check for that lib
[10:13] <th> netrunner: cause checking for installed swig is not enough
[10:13] <th> it might miss that lib
[10:13] <th> and svn must not install lang bindings for perl then
[10:14] <netrunner> th: better check for the condition when it installs that lib, like pkginstalled perl or so
[10:14] <th> netrunner: it is installed by swig
[10:14] <th> and i'm in subversion.conf
[10:15] <netrunner> th: yes, but under what condition? probably when perl is found, or something else.
[10:15] <th> i'm not sure about that
[10:15] <th> but i know: i've perl and swig installed
[10:15] <th> and i miss that lib
[10:16] <netrunner> th: but this is the better way. if the order get's mixed up, you end up with a package that misses a functionality it should have.
[10:16] Action: netrunner already had many of these in his current build :/
[10:17] <th> netrunner: why does the order get mixed up when i check explicitly for a lib?
[10:18] <th> hmmm svn: relocation error: svn: undefined symbol: svn_ver_check_list
[10:18] <th> blindcoder: do you know about this one?
[10:19] <netrunner> th: build order, meaning some .cache don't have the correct content. so e.g. swig might not have built the lib because it was scheduled too early.
[10:20] <netrunner> th: this is a build error to me that shouldn't silently propagate but fail somewhere.
[10:20] <th> netrunner: you think swig has a problem in 2.0-stable?
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[10:21] <th> swig.conf is missing in stable. so i think this might be related
[10:21] <th> moin daja77 
[10:21] <daja77> moin th
[10:21] <netrunner> th: I don't know. I generally don't like this way of feature adding. pkginstalled is to check for a prequesite.
[10:22] <th> netrunner: so basically your point is: better fix swig than make subversion ignore the missing lib silently?
[10:23] <th> ok svn_ver_check_list was related to installed old svn-1.0.5.
[10:23] <th> no i'm just missing http and https in protocols
[10:23] <th> s,no,now,
[10:24] <th> and this is propably cause my neon is too old
[10:24] <netrunner> th: yes and no. subversion may do a check, but not like [-f /bla/lib], but like pkinstalled perl - just the package that makes swig build the lib.
[10:24] <th> netrunner: but i think there is no package making swig build the lib
[10:24] <netrunner> hm, now the prefix works at least. should be at the beginning at the file.
[10:25] <netrunner> th: then swig should be fixed :)
[10:25] <th> netrunner: i think it's more like swig of stable does not provide it under ANY circumstances
[10:25] <th> netrunner: ok - so i think i got your point
[10:25] <th> netrunner: i'll have a look for swig
[10:26] <th> netrunner: ok. swig problem fixed. thanks for that one ;-p
[10:26] <blindcoder> this fucking pkgfilter!
[10:27] <blindcoder> Why does it work if I execute the filter manually but not when I execute it from config.in
[10:27] <th> sounds like quoting issues :-./
[10:27] Action: daja77 wants to know why imagemagick wants to install libtool stuff >_<
[10:28] <blindcoder> argh
[10:29] <blindcoder> there's a damn USEIT variable :/
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[10:35] <treo> sali
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[10:36] <netrunner> moin clifford
[10:36] <daja77> clifford: will you tag mplayer and the codecs packages as CORE?
[10:39] <blindcoder> daja77: what about the libdvd* packages?
[10:39] <th> mplayer is not the best dvd player i can imagine
[10:39] <th> choosing language is a pain
[10:39] <th> not to talk of root menu handling
[10:39] <blindcoder> th: -alang de?
[10:40] <th> "de" did not work for me lately
[10:40] <th> i hat to pass "129" or such.
[10:40] <th> s,hat,had,
[10:40] <blindcoder> hmm
[10:40] <blindcoder> well, maybe we should use xine for crystal then
[10:40] <blindcoder> th: tried gmplayer?
[10:41] <th> i'd rather have mplayer for non-dvd playback and ogle for dvd playback
[10:41] <th> blindcoder: never
[10:41] <th> but i've to go no for some hours
[10:41] <th> cya leter
[10:41] <th> i cant type today
[10:41] <daja77> th: that would be fine for me
[10:41] <blindcoder> bye th
[10:42] Action: blindcoder now building bootdisk for his crystal build :)
[10:43] <blindcoder> btw, we have no vi in crystal :/
[10:43] <th> uhhhhh?
[10:44] <th> only one solution ;-)
[10:44] <th> do we have emacs? ;-)
[10:44] <daja77> we have kate
[10:44] Action: daja77 runs
[10:44] <blindcoder> no
[10:44] <blindcoder> th: two solutions for vi would mean vim _and_ nvi :)
[10:45] <th> hehehe
[10:52] <netrunner> ah, the xfce4 stuff only failed because I didn't uninstall all old xfce stuff before. phew.
[10:53] <netrunner> I'd love if kde came as such a tarball of tarballs. would make updates lots easier.
[10:53] <daja77> O_o
[10:54] <blindcoder> netrunner: I'd love something like ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg kde
[10:54] <netrunner> blindcoder: thereis -repository for Emerge-Pkg.
[10:54] <daja77> metapackages ...
[10:54] <blindcoder> netrunner: does that honor build-priorities?
[10:54] <blindcoder> newer tried it...
[10:55] <netrunner> blindcoder: should
[10:55] <netrunner> :)
[10:55] <blindcoder> daja77: at least for .gem installation there should be something like that
[10:55] <clifford> https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2004102110551629524
[10:56] <blindcoder> :D
[10:56] <netrunner> this stupid thing only installed 3 files to the prefix I gave :(
[10:58] <blindcoder> netrunner: visualboyadvance only installs a single file :)
[10:58] Action: daja77 praises imagemagick for producing a shared files conflict with libtool O_o
[11:16] <Aard> daja77: better travel back in time and kill the idiot who invented libtool
[11:19] <daja77> hehe
[11:35] <clifford> .. so he never can invent libtool so it will never anoy you so there is no reason for you to travel back in time and kill him so he will invent libtool so ..
[11:36] <daja77> there is always a loop
[11:37] <blindcoder> clifford: no time paradoxon please
[11:37] <blindcoder> my head alraedy hurts
[11:38] <[anders2]> blindcoder: what did you think of that song b.t.w.?
[11:38] <daja77> iirc there was a way to produce patches inside a debug.sh 
[11:39] <blindcoder> [anders2]: sorry, haven't had the time to listen to it yet
[11:40] <[anders2]> :-)
[11:40] <daja77> song?
[11:41] <[anders2]> daja77: a JMJ tune from the Aero album...
[11:41] <daja77> hm
[11:44] <blindcoder> okay, that man-pages patch should do the trick now
[11:45] <blindcoder> if only checksumming wouldn't take so long :/
[11:46] <blindcoder> hmm
[11:46] <blindcoder> damn
[11:48] <blindcoder> hmm
[11:49] <blindcoder> strange
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[11:59] <blindcoder> okay, man-pages fixed
[12:00] Action: blindcoder --> lunch
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[12:30] <treo> booting linux 2.6.9
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[12:39] <blindcoder> back
[12:42] <blindcoder> wow, xfree is building for 5 hours now
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[12:47] <treo> sali
[12:52] <netrunner> hm, the new xfce does not really support xinerama ...
[13:09] <blindcoder> == 13:09:54 =[3]=> Building base/dietlibc [0.27 2.1.0-DEV].
[13:09] <blindcoder> -> Preparing configuration to build this package with dietlibc (statically).
[13:09] <blindcoder> ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 79: [: : integer expression expected
[13:09] <blindcoder> evil
[13:21] <netrunner> blindcoder: something in a .conf
[13:22] <blindcoder> netrunner: you don't say. now, which one?
[13:24] <blindcoder> ah, finally xfree is at make install
[13:28] <netrunner> blindcoder: usually the one you changed recently :)
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[13:29] <blindcoder> netrunner: it's an almost plain svn checkout
[13:29] <blindcoder> only the crystal patches and the man-page patch applied
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[13:31] <netrunner> blindcoder: then I'd bet on the man-page thing. but -x helps :)
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[13:33] <netrunner> is there any download shop where I can buy mp3's? or anything usable under linux?
[13:33] <th> you ask if there is a shop under linux?
[13:33] <netrunner> th: no, something like musikload.de where I can use the songs under linux.
[13:33] <akw> netrunner: I found an irc log on the web on which you state: 
[13:33] <akw> arch/um/kernel/ksyms.c:90: redefinition of `__kstrtab_os_ioctl_generic'
[13:33] <akw> I get the same error, when trying to compile an UMLinux Kernel Can you tell me what to do about it?
[13:34] <blindcoder> netrunner: short answer: no. long answer: very no.
[13:34] <blindcoder> netrunner: well, then the problem wouldn't be with dietlibc, would it? also, man-pages has only gotten an additional .patch file
[13:35] <th> netrunner: how are the songs offered so that they are not usable under linux?
[13:35] <netrunner> th: some windows mediaplayer drm shi**t?
[13:35] <th> ahhh
[13:35] <th> that's still called "mp3"?
[13:35] <th> ahhh
[13:35] <th> u asked mp3 OR anything usable
[13:35] <th> now i got it
[13:36] Action: th is a bit slow today :)
[13:37] <akw> Nobody can help me with User Mode Linux? :-(
[13:37] <netrunner> awk: moment...
[13:40] <netrunner> akw: I have a fine working linux26 kernel here, so there should be a solution.
[13:41] <akw> I commented out line 90 on arch/um/kernel/ksyms.c 
[13:41] <akw> // EXPORT_SYMBOL(os_ioctl_generic);
[13:41] <akw> Now at least it compiles properly..
[13:43] <akw> Sh$t, now I get trouble with make modules ARCH=um... :-(
[13:44] <netrunner> akw: ah.
[13:44] <netrunner> akw: don't build modularized.
[13:45] <akw> ?
[13:45] <akw> does UMLinux not allow modules?
[13:45] <netrunner> akw: at least it makes big problems in 26 :)
[13:47] <akw> I really WANT an UML-Kernel
[13:47] <netrunner> akw: so build non-modular :)
[13:48] <netrunner> akw: I could dcc you one :)
[13:48] <akw> No, i'm behind a firewall at the moment and can do nothing about it.
[13:49] <akw> Do I need DEVFS for UML?
[14:07] <akw> What the heck means: Kernel panic: read of switch_pipe failed, errno = 9
[14:08] <blindcoder> Error code   9:  Bad file descriptor
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[14:09] <blindcoder> WEE! after 6 hours xfree has finally finished building!
[14:09] <akw> I got my kernel ready, but I can't start it
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[14:29] <netrunner> akw: you need a rootfs.
[14:29] <netrunner> hm.
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[16:05] <treo> re
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[16:23] <netrunner> wow, just won a language-trip (or however one translates that ;)
[16:24] <daja77> which language
[16:24] <th> C ;)
[16:24] <netrunner> .NET
[16:24] <netrunner> :)
[16:24] <mnemoc_> is new wine on submaster? (no web browser here)
[16:24] <netrunner> dunno, the responsible person is supposed to call me, but it's from ef.com and worth 1keur.
[16:25] <netrunner> mnemoc_: no match in open patches.
[16:25] <mnemoc_> netrunner: thanks
[16:25] <mnemoc_> moin all btw :)
[16:25] <netrunner> 20040914 in my actual trunk
[16:25] <daja77> hi mnemoc_ 
[16:25] <mnemoc_> October 20, 2004: Wine 20041019 Released
[16:25] <mnemoc_> hi daja77 
[16:26] <netrunner> hm, only in europe. is russia europe?
[16:27] <daja77> yes
[16:27] <daja77> non eu, but european, party ;)
[16:28] <netrunner> hm. let's see when she calls me.
[16:28] <daja77> if you leave siberia out
[16:28] <netrunner> that's too cold anyway :)
[16:28] <daja77> but you could say, you've been to asia ^^
[16:29] <daja77> partly i meant
[16:30] <netrunner> hm, ireland sounds nice.
[16:30] <daja77> ;)
[16:31] <daja77> how have you won that? sold your soul?
[16:31] <netrunner> answered to spam :)
[16:32] <netrunner> filled out a form for absolventenbarometer 2004
[16:32] <netrunner> it sounded quite serious, so I thought why not :)
[16:32] <daja77> :D
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[16:35] <madtux> hello
[16:36] <daja77> welcome back crtux ;)
[16:36] <madtux> daja77: danke :)
[16:37] <daja77> :D
[16:37] <daja77> how are you
[16:37] <netrunner> hi madtux 
[16:39] <madtux> daja77: quite good thanks and you/
[16:39] <madtux> hello netrunner :)
[16:39] <daja77> madtux: feeling great atm
[16:40] <madtux> glad to hear
[16:41] <daja77> :)
[16:46] <daja77> madtux: wanna join your old chan ;)
[16:55] <netrunner> hm. mine -r does not work in trunk.
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[16:55] <daja77> hm automake is a multiple package?
[16:56] <daja77> I thought when I patch a configure.ac confgure script is rebuilt, but it seems not
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[17:35] <daja77> /scripts/Config: line 21: 20345 Segmentation fault      (core dumped)
[17:35] <daja77> O_o
[17:51] <daja77> this updating gives me the creeps
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[18:14] <blindcoder> rehi
[18:18] <blindcoder> hmm
[18:22] <madtux> hi blindcoder 
[18:24] <blindcoder> moin madtux 
[18:27] Action: blindcoder building crystal isos
[18:28] <blindcoder> anyone want some?
[18:30] Action: madtux raises hand
[18:31] <blindcoder> but I've only got 40 kB/sec upstream :/
[18:32] <th> blindcoder: we have iso.rocklinux.de for that
[18:32] <th> blindcoder: upload once
[18:33] <blindcoder> th: well, upload _where?
[18:33] <blindcoder> I see no upload/ or incoming/ directory
[18:33] <th> blindcoder: i've an account there
[18:33] <blindcoder> :)
[18:33] <blindcoder> I used to have one, too
[18:33] <th> currently we've no anonymous upload place
[18:34] <blindcoder> but that seems to be gone since the last reinstallation :/
[18:34] <blindcoder> th: I'll paste you the downloadlocation then, okay?
[18:34] <th> blindcoder: shell account?
[18:34] <th> blindcoder: yepp - that's ok
[18:34] <blindcoder> th: yes.
[18:34] <blindcoder> th: the mirror and downloads for LVP used to be there
[18:34] <th> i see
[18:35] <blindcoder> but both seem to be gone now
[18:35] <th> blindcoder: so ask localhero to get a new one
[18:35] <blindcoder> once I moved the LVP site to typo3
[18:35] <blindcoder> doesn't really make sense before that
[18:39] Action: daja77 wants crystal isos for dresden, but it needs a video player ...
[18:39] <blindcoder> hmm
[18:40] <blindcoder> these isos don't have one yet
[18:40] <daja77> i know
[18:40] <daja77> i think the best compromise is to ship xine, it can play the stuff mplayer plays + dvds
[18:40] <blindcoder> yes, I think so, too
[18:41] <daja77> I really start to hate that ...
[18:42] Action: blindcoder now burning two crystal sets as ordered
[18:42] <th> crystal without mplayer... hmmm
[18:43] <blindcoder> th: mplayer may be superior to xine in the features it provides, but xine provides features most users want
[18:44] Action: daja77 wants to download an iso tomorrow anyway ;)
[18:45] <blindcoder> :)
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[18:46] <daja77> building an own for dd next week
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[18:47] <th> daja77: don't forget to send me urls so i put them on our mirror
[18:48] <daja77> hm in that case upload would be better, because i still have isdn
[18:48] <daja77> got a letter that they will upgrade soon
[18:48] <th> daja77: you can even send me CD media
[18:48] <daja77> hm i could give you one on sat. ...
[18:49] <th> i thought i nacknowledged that one?
[18:49] <daja77> not finally :)
[18:49] <th> we've two guests here from sat->sun
[18:50] <daja77> ic
[18:50] <th> there is a big run in MD on sun
[18:50] <daja77> ugh why?
[18:50] <th> -> jabber
[18:51] <th> big run as in "marathon"
[19:12] <blindcoder> 3.4 Licensee shall have no right to use the Licensed Software for productive or commercial use.
[19:13] <blindcoder> just a small line I randomly spotted
[19:13] <th> which license?
[19:13] <blindcoder> Java :-)
[19:13] <th> sun's?
[19:13] <th> jsdk?
[19:13] <blindcoder> blackdown
[19:13] <blindcoder> j2re
[19:13] <th> ok
[19:14] <blindcoder> I like the "productive" part
[19:14] <th> yea
[19:14] <blindcoder> so I may only use it on my test-computer?
[19:14] <th> just to develop and learn
[19:14] <blindcoder> wouldn't development be "productive" again?
[19:15] <mnemoc_> aaarg! rational rose _requires_ inetd!
[19:15] <th> depends on the developer ;-)
[19:16] <blindcoder> th: indeed :)
[19:16] <blindcoder> mnemoc_: you're actually using "Rational" software?
[19:17] <mnemoc_> doh... they check for active inetd to 'verify if network is configurated'
[19:17] <mnemoc_> blindcoder: i have to do some 'homework' on it :\
[19:18] <mnemoc_> why the F* it wants portmapper???? 
[19:20] <blindcoder> oh, I see
[19:21] <mnemoc_> damn... this installer is discusting
[19:21] Action: mnemoc_ thinking about installing windows version on wine
[19:21] <blindcoder> great :/
[19:22] <blindcoder> now I compiled two days and Xvnc is segfaulting
[19:22] <th> perhaps you compiled a little bit too long ;-]
[19:22] <blindcoder> :/
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[19:26] <mnemoc_> now i need to install tcsh :'(
[19:32] Action: daja77 cursing loud in the chan
[19:32] Action: blindcoder cursing together with daja77 
[19:36] <daja77> this damn crap, why is there an --disable-ltdl-install option in configure when it tries to do that anyway >_<
[19:45] <blindcoder> to conf00s the user
[19:56] <mnemoc_> yahoo! rational crap is running.... after a dew hacking :\
[19:56] <mnemoc_> few*
[19:57] <mnemoc_> bbl
[19:57] <daja77> congrats
[19:58] <mnemoc_> how much kde should i have on my gnome to run umbrella?
[19:58] <mnemoc_> dia sticks of UML :p
[19:59] <daja77> kdelibs at least
[19:59] <daja77> perhaps base
[20:00] <SerWou> hello the chan
[20:00] <daja77> the others containing apps iirc
[20:00] <SerWou> got a question
[20:00] <SerWou> the file to define partition to mount at the linux boot
[20:00] <SerWou> i can't remenber
[20:01] <SerWou> can you help me out please ?
[20:01] <daja77> /etc/fstab?
[20:01] <SerWou> hey baby
[20:01] <SerWou> thanks dude
[20:01] <daja77> no i won't marry you :p
[20:01] <daja77> :)
[20:01] <SerWou> LOL
[20:07] <daja77> yeah the slackware build script for imagemagick points it out
[20:07] <daja77> # Lately ImageMagick has been smoking crack:
[20:17] <blindcoder> :(
[20:17] Action: blindcoder just saw that Crystal has postgresql
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[20:20] <blindcoder> and TWO kernels!
[20:40] <th> blindcoder: postgres AND mysql? 
[20:43] <blindcoder> th: no, only postgres :/
[20:43] <th> so that's ok - isn't it? only one solution.
[20:43] <th> everything else is personal prefernce.
[20:43] <blindcoder> well, most apps I know support mysql
[20:43] <blindcoder> even typo3
[20:45] <daja77> yep even if i prefer postgres for myself, i'd ship mysql in crystal
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[20:47] <_Ragnar_> heya
[20:49] <_Ragnar_> anything wrong with the svn server?
[20:52] <daja77> havent tried atm
[20:58] <th> _Ragnar_: yes
[20:58] <_Ragnar_> kay;)
[20:58] <th> perhaps i can fix something
[21:12] <th> ok. subversion fixed.
[21:14] <_Ragnar_> thx
[21:40] Action: blindcoder going to bed
[21:40] <blindcoder> bye
[21:41] <_Ragnar_> nini
[21:57] <netrunner> re
[21:57] <netrunner> oh, serwou proposing to daja77?
[21:57] <daja77> netrunner: you want to marry him? *gg*
[21:57] <netrunner> nonono
[21:58] Action: netrunner just returned from therme-erding.
[21:58] <daja77> poor serwou
[21:58] <netrunner> nice, the 2.6.9 now believes me that my dvd burner can also burn cdrs :)
[22:00] <daja77> you sent sm patch for that?
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[22:28] <tcr> hey madtux.
[22:28] <madtux> hello tcr.
[22:32] <netrunner> daja77: jup. even voted against cliffords :)
[22:33] <daja77> *sigh* i give up, i have no further idea atm
[22:35] <netrunner> daja77: for wat?
[22:35] <madtux> he has no idea.. didn't u hear?
[22:36] <madtux> :P
[22:36] <daja77> how to prevent imagemagick-6.1.1 to puke libtool libs all over the system aka shared files error
[22:42] <daja77> hm flist wrapper perhaps, but that's a hack
[22:45] <netrunner> patch/sed makefile
[22:53] <daja77> already done ...
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