[00:12] <netrunner> Aard: can you upload that to me? I am going to visit my coaching pupil tomorrow :)
[00:12] <netrunner> (14,f, plays sims hours a day) ;)
[00:12] <netrunner> anyway, n8.
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[08:27] <blindcoder> moin
[08:39] <blindcoder> ah, damn
[08:39] <blindcoder> need to renew my gpg-key before doing anything else now
[09:21] <blindcoder> HAH
[09:21] <blindcoder> found the error in parasim2.pl
[09:22] <blindcoder> seems like cluster building wasn't affected after all
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[10:51] <netrunne1> blindcoder: did you definitely fix cluster build?
[10:51] Nick change: netrunne1 -> netrunner
[10:53] <blindcoder> netrunner: simulation
[10:54] <blindcoder> netrunner: I don't think cluster build itself was broket
[10:54] <blindcoder> *broken
[11:07] <blindcoder> netrunner: I simply misunderstood how Create-PkgQueue was working
[11:07] <blindcoder> (mostly because it doesn't overlap with my logic)
[11:59] <netrunner> *rofl* just received scam with X-Mailer: PEBKAC id:10T
[12:09] <blindcoder> *lol*
[12:10] <th> moin
[12:10] <blindcoder> moin th
[12:10] <th> blindcoder: can you do another simple version bump for me?
[12:10] <th> blindcoder: i mean: test it on trunk
[12:11] <blindcoder> th: which package?
[12:11] <th> blindcoder: it went ok for stable. it's about xfsprogs.
[12:11] <th> blindcoder: xfsprogs is at 2.4.25.
[12:11] <th> blindcoder: we have 2.6.0 in stable and 2.6.10 in trunk
[12:12] <blindcoder> th: will do
[12:12] <th> blindcoder: thanks a lot.
[12:12] Nick change: sparc-kly -> sparc-kly|wifi
[12:13] <blindcoder> narf
[12:13] <blindcoder> compiling seahorse with all deps is taking ages :/
[12:13] Nick change: sparc-kly|wifi -> sparc-kly
[12:13] <blindcoder> at least on a 500 MHz machine
[12:19] <blindcoder> th: doesn't build here
[12:20] <th> hmmm :-/
[12:20] <th> what's the problem?
[12:20] <th> 2.6.9?
[12:20] <blindcoder> libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration
[12:20] <blindcoder> libtool: compile: specify a tag with `--tag'
[12:21] <blindcoder>
[12:45] <blindcoder> wow, orbit2 finally done
[12:50] Action: blindcoder begins to understand why some distributions are considering to dump gnome
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[13:13] <SMP> blindcoder: are they? which ones?
[13:14] <blindcoder> SMP: I think I remember someone from mandrake announcing something like that
[13:15] <blindcoder> no, slack
[13:15] <blindcoder> http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=8513
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[13:21] <SMP> anyone else getting only timeouts for the svn via http?
[13:24] <blindcoder> rock-linux?
[13:25] <blindcoder> svn: Unrecognized URL scheme 'http://www.rocklinux.net/svn/rock-linux/trunk'
[13:25] <blindcoder> sorry
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[13:47] <clifford> SMP: fixed.
[13:47] <daja77> hi clifford 
[13:47] <blindcoder> moin clifford, daja77 
[13:48] <clifford> moin all
[13:49] <daja77> clifford: that line in imagemagick package you mentioned shouldn't have been there anymore :/
[13:49] <blindcoder> October Newsflash is already done, currently I'm trying to compile all deps of seahorse to replace my worn-out gpg key :/
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[14:07] <SMP> blindcoder, clifford: I was surprised to see mozilla CORE flagged. my opinion was we should use firefox and thunderbird.
[14:07] <SMP> ehm.
[14:07] <SMP> daja, not blindcoder
[14:07] <blindcoder> stop waking me for nothing :-)
[14:08] <SMP> blindcoder: then you might as well support me, now that you're already awake ;)
[14:08] <blindcoder> SMP: I can't. I prefer mozilla :)
[14:08] <SMP> AFAIK mozilla will eventually be discontinued in favor of the specialized clients
[14:08] <blindcoder> that would be sad
[14:10] <daja77> SMP: that is the other option of course, but i think it needs more space on the cd set
[14:10] <SMP> and they are getting much more attention than mozilla proper - which is justified IMHO, as they have the better UI
[14:11] <blindcoder> can't really talk about it, haven't tried either FF or TB
[14:39] <mnemoc_> moin
[14:39] <blindcoder> moin moin
[14:40] <mnemoc_> moin blindcoder 
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[15:13] <blindcoder> dependency hell doesn't begin to describe this...
[15:15] <blindcoder> I'd love to send a mail, but this dep hell is still preventing me from doing so:
[15:16] <daja77> rl.net is down?
[15:16] <blindcoder> clifford: what about entirely splitting :doc and :dev packages onto separate CDs? Say, CDs 1-3 contain only binaries. Starting with CD4 only :doc and CD6 and rest :dev?
[15:17] <blindcoder> daja77: works here. did you forget the www.?
[15:18] <daja77> no
[15:23] <daja77> the dns server at the uni doesn't resolve it ..
[15:24] <daja77> and using the ip does not help
[15:25] <mnemoc_> doesn't resolve here neither
[15:26] <netrunner> http://homepage1.nifty.com/koshifumi/fdc-02.html
[15:28] Action: daja77 kicking netrunner 
[15:29] <netrunner> daja77: ? :)
[15:29] Action: netrunner thinks that's a useful technique for sauna
[15:29] Action: blindcoder carefully opening that site in w3m
[15:30] Action: blindcoder not seeing anything and moving on
[15:30] <daja77> netrunner: i am at work here
[15:30] <netrunner> blindcoder: it's the images. 
[15:30] <netrunner> daja77: *lol*
[15:30] <blindcoder> daja77: that's exactly why I used w3m :)
[15:31] Action: netrunner opens the bookmark folder "don't open at work"
[15:31] <netrunner> how was that url called, goat.se/cx?
[15:31] <blindcoder> goatse.cx
[15:31] <mnemoc_> *bookmarked without opening it*
[15:32] <netrunner> blindcoder: how comes you know this by heart? :)
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[15:35] <blindcoder> netrunner: I read too much bash.org
[15:35] Nick change: sparc-kly|wifi -> sparc-kly
[15:36] <blindcoder> so I could also name some other... not-to-open-at-work URI
[15:37] <mnemoc_> yes
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[15:54] <netrunner> rl.net works here.
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[16:24] <treo> sali#
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[17:04] <mnemoc> how can i force gcc to not do any optimization?
[17:04] <SMP> mnemoc: -O0
[17:04] <mnemoc> thanks
[17:07] <mnemoc> damn m68000 debuger :|
[17:07] <mnemoc> if i build with gcc2.95 it can follow the lister fine, but on gcc>3 it only does s.th!
[17:08] <mnemoc> even with -O0
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[18:02] <blindcoder> AAARRRGGGHHH
[18:02] <Captain_Fleming> hehe, whats up??
[18:03] <blindcoder> Our CEO just sent a mail that she steps down as CEO and that that post will now be occupied by someone I... don't really approve of
[18:04] <blindcoder> (note, my company is a small 30-person company with me being the employee after the CEO since 2.5 years ago)
[18:04] <blindcoder> the first employee
[18:04] <Captain_Fleming> ok, whats your talking about...
[18:04] <Captain_Fleming> ah yes
[18:04] <Captain_Fleming> srry
[18:04] <Captain_Fleming> well, im sorry, really... :-S
[18:05] <blindcoder> this is going to be a heated discussion at work tomorrew
[18:06] <Captain_Fleming> well, prepare... :D
[18:06] <blindcoder> no, cool down...
[18:06] <blindcoder> right now I feel like hitting someone...
[18:06] Action: blindcoder grabs his weights and does some excercise
[18:06] <blindcoder> bbl
[18:06] <Captain_Fleming> lolz
[18:07] <Captain_Fleming> how do you do those things... like you just did??
[18:08] <blindcoder> what do you mean?
[18:09] <Captain_Fleming> like *blindcoder grabs his weights and does some exercise
[18:11] <blindcoder> ehm
[18:11] <blindcoder> are you new to IRC?
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[18:13] <Captain_Fleming> yes quite
[18:13] <blindcoder> just type /me before the text
[18:15] Action: Captain_Fleming hey everyone
[18:15] <Captain_Fleming> hehe
[18:15] <Captain_Fleming> thnx
[18:15] Action: Captain_Fleming is just joking, and testing, so dont mind /me
[18:16] <Captain_Fleming> so, doesnt work...
[18:18] Action: Captain_Fleming is leaving, so goodbye and thnx for the help blindcoder :D
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[18:35] <blindcoder> okay, now I feel better
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[19:14] <daja77> good to know
[19:15] <blindcoder> daja77: ?
[19:16] <daja77> that you feel better ;)
[19:16] <blindcoder> yeah :)
[19:16] <blindcoder> a little workout and a shower
[19:17] <blindcoder> the bad thing is: I've calmed down, but I don't feel better about this situation at all
[19:17] <daja77> where is your summary mail
[19:17] <blindcoder> daja77: waiting for seahorse to build so I can create a new GPG-Key and sign it with my master key
[19:18] <blindcoder> but GNOME is a dependency hell
[19:18] <daja77> indeed
[19:19] <blindcoder> made worse by some packages only checking their deps shortly before or even _during_ install
[19:19] <blindcoder> guess I'll just send it without a signature then :/
[19:19] <blindcoder> this seems to take a few days
[19:20] <daja77> dep checking during install? wtf
[19:20] <blindcoder> yes
[19:20] <blindcoder> gnome-icon-theme had already installed 2000-odd files when it discovered that hicolor-icon-theme isn't installed at which point it just broke
[19:21] <daja77> O_o
[19:21] <SerWou> Hello the Chan
[19:21] <blindcoder> hello the SerWou 
[19:21] <SerWou> hello the blindcoder
[19:22] Action: daja77 is wondering that gnome is usable at all after all the mess during build process
[19:22] <SerWou> i guy just exchange me a NVidia MX440 64Mo PCI for a Brand new NVidia FX5200 AGP8x 68Mo   lol ;)
[19:22] <blindcoder> daja77: http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=8513
[19:23] <daja77> already read this and i agree basically
[19:24] <daja77> and i really like that comment below, if you don't ship gnome, i can build it myself ...
[19:24] <blindcoder> yes
[19:24] <blindcoder> well, Crystal has KDE, which is much easier in general :)
[19:25] <blindcoder> rocket emerge arts kdebase kdelibs ${kdeapp}
[19:25] <blindcoder> GNOME:
[19:26] <blindcoder> rocket emerge ... well... no idea where to start... ehm... libgnome? no... atk... ah it builds... gtk+... argh... pango... gtk+... orbit2? NOOO! needs libIDL
[19:27] <daja77> ok you forgot qt for kde but yes
[19:27] <blindcoder> damn
[19:27] <blindcoder> I knew there was something
[19:28] <daja77> but rocket should resolve that ..
[19:29] <blindcoder> no idea, I use ./scripts/Download && ./scripts/Build-Pkg
[19:29] <daja77> :)
[19:29] <blindcoder> because I don't know what -deps will do to my poor system
[19:29] <daja77> you can use Emerge-Pkg without the deps option as well
[19:31] <blindcoder> this is a 500MHz machine
[19:31] <blindcoder> I don't have time for cksumming :P
[19:32] <blindcoder> argl, I'll just send the mail without signature now
[19:35] <SMP> blindcoder: why not use kgpg?
[19:37] <blindcoder> SMP: because until this moment I didn't know of its existence
[19:39] <SMP> besides, gpg --keygen isn't really much harder than any frontend could be
[19:41] <SerWou> hey guys
[19:41] <SerWou> where is modprobe.conf on Rock ?
[19:42] <blindcoder> SMP: yes, but I want to sign the new key with my sign-only key and change the passphrase on my old one and create a revocation certificate for the old one
[19:42] <blindcoder> SerWou: /etc/modules.conf 
[19:42] <SerWou> ok, thanks
[19:42] <blindcoder> modprobe.conf is for old modutils for kernel 2.4
[19:42] <blindcoder> (IIRC)
[19:42] <SerWou> ha ok
[19:56] <blindcoder> and now gedit fails while installing
[19:58] <blindcoder> rm -rf package/gnome* ; ./scripts/Create-Diff ../rock-2.1-clifford . package/ >20041102_remove_crap.patch ; rock_commit_patch 20041102_remove_crap.patch
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[20:15] <blindcoder> hrm
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[20:50] <blindcoder> should have done this _a_ _lot_ _sooner_
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[22:11] <treo> gn8
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[22:30] <uninvited> hola
[22:39] <uninvited> hallo praenti
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