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[02:31] <demian> hi
[02:53] <mnemoc> rehi
[03:49] <mnemoc> gn8 *
[03:50] <demian> mnemoc: qu descanse.
[03:50] <mnemoc> demian: :)
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[04:08] <demian> http://www.cs.caltech.edu/~westside/quantum-intro.html
[04:27] <demian> bye
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[07:15] <netrunner> moin
[08:00] <blindcoder> moin moin
[08:58] <praenti> moin moin
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[09:26] <ringo> \join #freebsd
[09:52] <daja77> hi ringo 
[09:52] <daja77> ts :)
[09:52] <blindcoder> moin ringo, daja77 
[09:53] <daja77> hi blindcoder 
[10:15] <SerWou> Hello the Chan
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[11:06] <blindcoder> last day of SUN Training
[11:06] <blindcoder> finally get to do real work again next week
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[11:56] <mnemoc> moin
[11:56] <SerWou> hello mnemoc
[11:57] <mnemoc> hi SerWou 
[11:57] <SerWou> what's up mate ?
[11:58] <mnemoc> everuthing fine, but it's raining :\ and i had organized a party for my 'older' daugther for tomorrow :(
[12:00] <SerWou> how old is she ?
[12:01] <SerWou> the weather is pretty fine here, big blus sky but little bit cold ;)
[12:01] <mnemoc> 3
[12:01] <mnemoc> 25 kids :\
[12:02] <SerWou> nice
[12:03] <mnemoc> veeeery nice to have 25 kids inside your _small_ house :| ..... i guess i'll suspend it for next saterday
[12:08] <SerWou> hehe
[12:08] <SerWou> with chocolate everywhere
[12:08] <SerWou> ;)
[12:13] <mnemoc> :p
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[12:42] <th> re
[12:51] <blindcoder> moin th
[12:52] <th> hi blindy
[12:52] <th> reference build is still doing fine
[12:52] <th> 2190 builds total, 1792 completed fine, 0 with errors.
[12:53] <mnemoc> :)
[12:55] <blindcoder> sweet
[12:55] <blindcoder> I've begun setting up a bt-tracker and bandwidth analyser for it
[12:55] <blindcoder> so if you want I can host a tracker and also see how much it will be used for 2.0.3
[12:56] <th> i don't know anything about bt
[12:56] <blindcoder> bittorrent 
[12:56] <th> a tracker is just serving meta info where to get stuff?
[12:56] <blindcoder> is a centralizes P2P-Program
[12:56] <blindcoder> yes
[12:57] <th> i think this would do no harm ;)
[12:57] <blindcoder> we weould need a few seeders, though
[12:57] <mnemoc> a torrent can be a nice way to distribute RL's isos :)
[12:57] <blindcoder> mnemoc: that's what I was thinking :)
[12:58] <blindcoder> but we need a few people who already have the complete file for it to work
[12:58] <blindcoder> maybe starting a seed on iso.rocklinux.de :-)
[13:00] <mnemoc> yeah :) 
[13:01] <blindcoder> I modified donitor (freshmeat.net/donitor) to create stats for bttrack
[13:01] <blindcoder> so we have a quite reliable statistic for the tracker
[13:02] <blindcoder> and apart from bttrack I won't have any upload anyway
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[13:02] <blindcoder> brb
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[13:11] <blindcoder> re
[13:11] <th> is there a secure way of chrooting?
[13:11] <blindcoder> chroot?
[13:11] <th> root inside chroot can do too much
[13:11] <th> i know i could run uml... but i don't like that overhead
[13:12] <th> i need to limit the running processes (like ssh) inside that chroot to keep them from doing special things (like accessing devices)
[13:13] <th> but i need them to be able to do things only root can (open tcp servers on ports < 1024)
[13:13] <blindcoder> capabilities?
[13:13] <th> i thought about that too
[13:14] <th> but don't know enough. can i set the caps per process?
[13:14] <th> i thought it would be per kernel
[13:14] <blindcoder> no idea, never had to do that
[13:15] <th> smells like running an uml kernel would be the best way to go
[13:15] <th> who was our uml crack again?
[13:15] <blindcoder> eesden
[13:15] <th> hmm
[13:16] <blindcoder> damn... need to restart my server... remote...
[13:17] <blindcoder> well, that can wait until tomorrow
[13:19] <blindcoder> okay, chef is here. I'm off
[13:28] <netrunner> th: watcha want with uml?
[13:30] <th> netrunner: secure hosting environment
[13:52] <netrunner> I heard you can always break out of an uml :)
[13:53] <netrunner> I only did the uml building and create-rootfs stuff for rock, but never excessively used them.
[14:04] <th> netrunner: i think with kernel capabilities you can heavily limit what the kernel can do
[14:05] <daja77> lmao
[14:05] <daja77> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/53180
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[17:22] <treo> sali
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[19:54] <mnemoc> th: i just emerged svn1.1 on my 2.0 and now i have svn1.0 on /usr and svn1.1 on /opt/apache :\
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[21:42] <mnemoc> th: oh, it was in the other way, old 1.0 on /opt/apache and new 1.1 on /usr
[22:59] <th> mnemoc: and why is that a problem?
[22:59] <th> 2190 builds total, 2189 completed fine, 0 with errors.
[23:01] <mnemoc> th: there was a prefix change on an important package on an stable tree
[23:01] <mnemoc> that broked my svn server
[23:01] Action: netrunner offers some glue
[23:02] <mnemoc> it's fixed now, but thanks :)
[23:03] <th> mnemoc: sorry for that. but the old way was just TOO ugly
[23:03] <mnemoc> i know
[23:03] <th> mnemoc: i cosnsidered svn in apache prefix a major bug
[23:04] <th> mnemoc: and it was decided to not care about binary compatibility
[23:04] <mnemoc> uhm?
[23:04] <th> in this particular case
[23:05] <th> cause there is no binary repository
[23:05] <th> but your case is not really about bincomp ...
[23:05] <th> mnemoc: how did it break your server?
[23:05] <mnemoc> yes but there are machines running in production _trusting_ that rock will keep his word about stability
[23:05] <netrunner> problem with this is that most people use rocklinux like a selfbuilding distro because there is no bin dist.
[23:06] <mnemoc> th: command line was 1.0 and mod_svn was 1.1
[23:07] <mnemoc> i think you could have replaced old binaries with symlinks
[23:07] <mnemoc> to replace old ones
[23:07] <th> Reference build finished.
[23:10] <th> we will have 2.0.3 very soon.
[23:10] <th> but for now - i'm off
[23:11] <mnemoc> apache got 100% of cpu because of this chaos, making imposible for it to receive smtp connections, etc...
[23:11] <netrunner> th: will crystal be merged back to create a distribution of -stable?
[23:11] <mnemoc> netrunner: that would be nice
[23:11] <th> netrunner: i thought about adapting desktop pksel to emulate crystal
[23:11] <th> please send patches to that pkgsel
[23:12] <mnemoc> th: please, dont. destop is desktop, crystal is crystal
[23:12] <th> so please send a crystal pkgsel
[23:12] <mnemoc> there are systems running and getting updated using that target
[23:13] <mnemoc> :)
[23:13] <th> CORE flag propably wont get in. but we could do a pkgsel
[23:13] <mnemoc> yes
[23:13] <th> but as i said. i'm off now. sorry
[23:14] <mnemoc> cu 
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[23:18] <netrunner> cu th
[23:23] <netrunner> wonderful. text-part of the html-spam: Get a capable html e-mailer
[23:25] <mnemoc> :D
[23:25] <mnemoc> you are too lame to read this spam 
[23:26] <netrunner> If you can read this, you won't reply anyway.
[23:36] <lewellyn> capable html emailer or html capable emailer? :)
[23:36] <mnemoc> hehe :)
[23:37] <mnemoc> http://www.php.net/~sterling/mono/ <--- this is weird
[23:37] <lewellyn> hm. i wish there were a bug in outlook and/or oe that let them see different default mime parts ;)
[23:38] <lewellyn> even better... exchange serving a different default mime part from what the client would normally select... :)
[23:42] <lewellyn> mnemoc: guess someone needed it :)
[23:43] <mnemoc> yes =)
[23:44] <mnemoc> thinking about, that can be very usefull
[23:45] <mnemoc> you can have your business tier completely compiled on a .dll and just query it from php without playing with .aspx
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