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[00:07] Action: owl places a nuclear bomb into [00:07] <owl> #rocklinux [00:07] <owl> (next person who will either talk, quit, or join will destroy the world) [00:08] <owl> a [00:08] <owl> *destroying everything and everyone* [00:08] <owl> . death . [00:10] <valentin> _ ._ _ , _ ._ [00:10] <valentin> (_ ' ( ` )_ .__) [00:10] <valentin> ( ( ( ) `) ) _) [00:10] <valentin> (__ (_ (_ . _) _) ,__) [00:10] <valentin> `~~`\ ' . /`~~` [00:10] <valentin> ,::: ; ; :::, [00:10] <valentin> ':::::::::::::::' [00:10] <valentin> __________/_ __ \____________ [00:11] <mnemoc> hehe [00:11] Action: fake still feeling pretty alive [00:11] <mnemoc> :D [00:11] <valentin> live is an illusion [00:11] <owl> dammit. :( [00:12] <owl> an illusion? in what way? [00:13] <valentin> just a proverb - maybe we all live in the matrix or live is just a dream .. [00:13] <valentin> i just wanted to say: fake may feel alive - but how can he know he still is ? [00:15] <mnemoc> life* ? [00:15] <owl> well, i geuss, if someone still feals something (pain, feelings etc.) then he or she is still alive. but what about someone who does not feel inside, but anger and sadness? [00:15] <valentin> mnemoc: the thing that happens outside irc [00:15] <mnemoc> heheh [00:16] <valentin> owl: anger / sadness aren't feelings ? [00:16] <owl> valentin: nope. not the feelings i mean... [00:16] <owl> this is more a "buried alive"-symptom... [00:17] <valentin> you say it - buried _alive_ [00:18] <owl> hmm. well, but can you be something different in this society, in this world? just take a look at those fscking political parties, watch TV, read the newspapers... and puke. [00:19] <owl> (at least my hamster is with some more hairs again, btw. and - is not as aphatic as she was before... ) [00:19] <valentin> that is good news [00:20] <owl> yeah. even if there are bad news, there must be something that keeps you alive. i guess so called "good news" are just there to keep people alive (otherwise if everything would be bad, the suicide "rate" would be higher *guessing*) [00:22] <owl> mv /dev/universe/earth/tools/bullet /dev/universe/earths/people/owl/head [00:22] <valentin> so your hamster is part of the plan ? [00:22] <valentin> the plan to keep us alive ? [00:22] <owl> could be, if there is really a plan. [00:23] <owl> i guess that everybody has something that keeps him/her alive... or not? [00:23] <valentin> yes - i call it fatalism ... [00:25] <owl> fatalism? [00:25] Captain (~Captain@d142-59-231-163.abhsia.telus.net) joined #rocklinux. [00:26] <valentin> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatalism [00:26] <valentin> suicide is just a special case of a pointless action [00:28] <owl> aaaaargh. i can read just the half of it (having a 386er with greyscale display here) [00:34] <owl> hm. why not to execute suicide? [00:40] <valentin> once you get used to the fact that things are bad because they are meant to be bad live can be realy entertaining [00:41] <owl> hmm [00:42] <valentin> ok - my argument is not very good ... [00:43] <owl> yeah. ;) [00:45] <valentin> in fact i left my depressive age behind me a long time ago so i parted from fatalism and sometimes realy get involved with sth [00:46] <valentin> there was a time where i just stayed alive for convenience [00:47] <valentin> guess that was about 10 years ago [00:52] <valentin> need to take care of my ill gf now (another reason to stay alive) - so cu later [00:52] <owl> hmm getting involved with what? [00:52] <owl> 10 years ago? how old are you, if you allow me to ask? ;) [00:53] <valentin> too old :| [00:53] <valentin> ok, 26 [00:54] <owl> hmm. well. i ahve a bf... but is he a reason to stay alive? [00:54] <owl> hmm. 26 old? well, i thought elder ;p [00:54] <owl> bye, bye [00:54] <valentin> my girl *realy* needs me so she is a reason [00:54] <valentin> bye [00:54] <mnemoc> :) [00:55] <owl> hmm. well. ok O_o [01:44] <mnemoc> amazing 342 files where removed from linux 2.6 between .7 and .9 [01:44] <_Ragnar_> ooh? [01:45] <fake> find include -name *.h -exec cat {} >> include/the-only-one.h ? ;-) [01:45] <mnemoc> hehe [01:46] <_Ragnar_> *lol* [01:48] <fake> (there is a \; missing) [01:49] <mnemoc> =) [02:03] Captain (~Captain@d142-59-231-163.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:25] mnemoc_ (~amery@200.75.27.43) joined #rocklinux. 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[09:40] dennis_ (~dennis@pD9E8FA29.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:41] Captain (~Captain@d142-59-231-163.abhsia.telus.net) joined #rocklinux. [09:48] <hannes_> moin! [09:48] <blindcoder> msgl hannes_ [09:49] <hannes_> hi blindcoder! [10:08] <th> moin [10:08] <daja77> moin [10:37] kasc_ (kasc@dsl-213-023-190-089.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [10:40] ringo (ringo78@xs2.xs4all.nl) joined #rocklinux. [10:49] kasc (kasc@dsl-082-083-044-122.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:49] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [11:47] netcrow (~netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de) joined #rocklinux. [12:37] tschmidt_ (~tschmidt@p508EACB0.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:48] <mnemoc> moin [12:53] <daja77> moin mnemoc [12:53] <mnemoc> hi daja77 [12:56] <netrunner> have I mentioned that xpdf does not install the xpdf binary? [12:56] <daja77> huh? [12:56] <netrunner> I've seen that before, just forgot it. [12:57] <mnemoc> i noticed that too [12:59] <netrunner> I see @X@ $(INSTALL_PROGRAM) xpdf/xpdf$(EXE) $(DESTDIR)@bindir@/xpdf$(EXE) [12:59] <netrunner> in the makefile.in, what does the @X@ in front mean? [13:01] <netrunner> hm. configure: WARNING: Couldn't find X / Motif -- you will be able to compile [13:01] <netrunner> pdftops, pdftotext, pdfinfo, pdffonts, pdftoppm, and pdfimages, [13:01] <netrunner> but not xpdf [13:02] <daja77> X as in x.org and stuff? [13:02] <mnemoc> i think so [13:08] praenti (~praenti@mail.obster.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:08] <daja77> damn it, why is svn so slow [13:11] <th> slower than usual? [13:11] <daja77> yes, sm synching for hours [13:12] <mnemoc> have you tried svk? [13:12] <th> i think he does [13:12] <mnemoc> how is it? :) [13:14] <th> nothing special that i can see :-/ [13:24] <netrunner> oh, we are also missing ghostscript in crystal. [13:26] <daja77> ah that explains why cups is not working ... [13:27] <netrunner> hehehe [13:28] <netrunner> and I suppose xpdf misses openmotif [13:28] <netrunner> (bug xpdf would probably be redundant vs. kpdf) [13:29] <mnemoc> that's your option :) not everyone has kde or gnome ;) [13:29] <daja77> mnemoc: in crystal there is kde in [13:29] <netrunner> mnemoc: well, talking about crystal. [13:29] <netrunner> oh, battery empty :( [13:31] <mnemoc> :( [13:31] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EACB0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [13:43] <owl> moin [13:45] <mnemoc> cpu_gdt_table [13:45] <mnemoc> errr... [13:45] <mnemoc> hi owl [13:47] <owl> hi mnemoc . how are you? [13:48] <mnemoc> fine, and you? destroying the world again? [13:48] <owl> *g* nope. too tired for it... (god, i'm really hating nights with alpmares *cries*) [13:49] <owl> (especially if the alpmares have such a connection like the last one hast *grml*) [13:50] <daja77> you mean nightmares? [13:51] <owl> yeah. sorry. denglish + being awake sice about 10 minutes + being tired -> mixing up languages O_o [14:00] <mnemoc> .oO( porting PAX to 2.6.9 is a _big_ pain )o [14:00] <owl> PAX? [14:01] <mnemoc> a kernel patch [14:01] <owl> aaaah! [14:01] praenti (~praenti@mail.obster.org) joined #rocklinux. [14:01] <owl> hi praenti [14:01] <praenti> hi [14:05] <netcrow> hi praenti [14:06] <netcrow> pleased with your i-book? [14:07] <praenti> netcrow: yes, except the wlan story [14:07] <praenti> netcrow: but i want to work on that [14:07] <netcrow> good luck ;) [14:07] <praenti> netcrow: why? do you sell yours? [14:07] <praenti> s/do/did [14:08] <netcrow> no, but the wlan is the argument which restrains me from linux [14:09] <praenti> netcrow: ahh. :-). but perhaps i get a working wrapper together with other more experienced people [14:09] <praenti> netcrow: i hope you know mol. this is the first milestone. get the hardware mapped into mol [14:10] <praenti> and i personally hope that the ndis-wrapper can give me some inspiration [14:10] <hannes_> hi [14:10] <netcrow> mol = mac on linux? [14:10] <praenti> yupp [14:11] <netcrow> praenti: how is your time-schedule? ;-) [14:11] <praenti> netcrow: starting at 21c3. i will not have the time till then... (i believe) [14:11] <praenti> :-/ [14:12] <praenti> but that would be a good title: 22c3 the first congress where iBook user can run Linux and have access to wlan... [14:12] <hannes_> praenti: there will nearly be no other chance, than using somehow the driver of macosX [14:12] <praenti> *g* [14:12] <daja77> praenti: do i have to register for 21c3 [14:13] <praenti> daja77: as i have seen two days ago the registry is not working [14:13] <hannes_> daja77: the time schedule is not ready, now... ;) [14:13] <hannes_> daja77: so no need, i thin. [14:13] <daja77> praenti: the question is, do i have to do this manually, or do you registrating me with the project [14:14] <praenti> daja77: the hackcenter registry can be done by every person. so if someone has seen that the registry is working should register our project [14:15] <praenti> if have a look near every day, because when all things go right, i will do the registration for ROCK Linux [14:15] <daja77> ok [14:15] <praenti> and all other poeple are registered at this time [14:15] <daja77> cool [14:15] <netcrow> praenti is the shuttle-service-organizer [14:15] <netcrow> ;-) [14:15] <praenti> daja77: only if you want to do a talk, you must register this by yourself! [14:15] <praenti> netcrow: ??? [14:15] <daja77> the talk registration is already over [14:15] <daja77> iirc [14:16] <netcrow> praenti: joke [14:16] <praenti> netcrow: only registry organizer [14:16] <daja77> don't want to talk anyway [14:16] <daja77> had enough talks [14:16] <praenti> ok. [14:16] <praenti> daja77: do you habve registered at our internal registration? [14:16] Action: daja77 goin for the darkside and continue hacking java [14:16] <daja77> erh dunno [14:17] <praenti> https://www.rocklinux.net/eventreg/eventreg.cgi [14:18] <praenti> becuase i need the amount how many places we need. the location as discussed in mail already will be the elevator corner [14:18] <daja77> hm ok, just have no stay for the nights so far [14:19] <praenti> just to get shure ask blindcoder, but i think he is full already :-( [14:19] <praenti> s/shure/sure [14:20] <daja77> as far as i read, yes [14:20] <hannes_> daja77: i'm currently sitting in a java-course ;) [14:22] <daja77> :) [14:22] <daja77> i am learning too [14:27] <praenti> hey. event registration is working. I will do the registration now!!!!!!!!!!! [14:28] <hannes_> praenti: go go go go ;) [14:28] <fake> moin [14:28] <praenti> for how many person should I register? [14:28] <praenti> 20? [14:28] <hannes_> hi fake [14:28] <netcrow> 23 [14:28] <netcrow> hi fake [14:29] <praenti> ok, i will do 23 [14:29] <fake> clifford nos blacksun netrunner blindy daja madtux netcrow hannes_ praenti... [14:29] <fake> ? [14:29] <fake> th [14:29] <th> ack [14:29] <fake> smp [14:29] <mnemoc> madtux?? [14:29] <daja77> yep madtux [14:29] <fake> mnemoc? [14:29] <fake> ;) [14:29] <daja77> if nothing goes wrong [14:30] <th> will rxr join? [14:30] <th> *scnr* [14:30] <praenti> ok, that would be around 14 persons. to get some more place, i think 23 is good [14:30] <praenti> rxr will not join [14:30] <fake> yes [14:30] <fake> 23 is nice ;) [14:30] <th> 23 is evil. [14:30] <praenti> another topic: public project? [14:30] <praenti> i would yes [14:31] <fake> sure [14:32] <fake> 'ewige blumenkraft' [14:32] <netcrow> lol [14:34] <netcrow> we will get 42 m³ space ;-) [14:34] <owl> hi fake [14:34] <fake> praenti: don't forget to note that we need a wheelchair-accessible place [14:35] <fake> moin owl [14:35] <praenti> fake: haven't forgot that. Want the place from last year near the levator [14:35] <praenti> s/levator/elevator [14:39] <mnemoc> fake: i have a question about lx26's arch/i386/kernel/traps.c i know you can answer :-), do you have any idea why are they substracting _43_ to eip on show_registers? is that __KERNEL_TEXT_OFFSET ? [14:40] <daja77> which hopefully does not brake down the last day [14:41] <fake> mnemoc: let me take a look [14:41] <fake> line 258 ? [14:43] <fake> may it be the size of struct pt_regs *regs is 43 bytes? [14:43] <fake> ... but that shouldn't matter for the instruction pointer [14:45] <mnemoc> uhm [14:47] <fake> https://lkml.org/lkml/2004/8/6/61 [14:47] <hannes_> ksymoops jut prints 64 bytes of code [14:47] <hannes_> eip-43 to eip+20 [14:48] <fake> yeah, the +x ones with <> [14:49] <fake> and the minus ones without [14:49] <fake> no [14:49] <fake> the current one is <> [14:49] <hannes_> jap [14:50] <fake> but why is it solved so cryptic? [14:50] <fake> the for-loop variable 'i' is never used [14:50] <hannes_> i think its historic..because of the problem ksymoops has to deal with lots of arcs etc... [14:52] <hannes_> s/arcs/archs/ [14:53] <mnemoc> this code is weird :\ [14:54] <fake> maybe it's copied from sco... ;-) [14:54] <mnemoc> hehe [14:54] <hannes_> especially if you have variable length expressions ;) [14:56] <fake> *flood* [14:56] <fake> for(i=0;i<20;i++) [14:56] <fake> { [14:56] <fake> unsigned char c; [14:56] <fake> if(__get_user(c, &((unsigned char*)regs->rip)[i])) { [14:56] <fake> bad: [14:56] <fake> printk(" Bad RIP value."); [14:56] <fake> break; [14:56] <fake> } [14:56] <fake> printk("%02x ", c); [14:56] <fake> } [14:56] <fake> that;s x86_64 [14:56] <mnemoc> that's was the old i386 too [14:57] <fake> that's 20 instructions forward and that's it [14:57] <fake> not too helpful ;) [15:19] esden (~esden@p50804515.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [15:19] <fake> th: https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2004112415184020731 [15:19] <esden> hi ho everyone [15:19] <fake> hi esden [15:19] <hannes_> hi esden [15:22] <fake> hannes_: eva is chewing on the last crystal package [15:22] <fake> hannes_: kdevelop.. [15:22] <hannes_> shit, our prof calls a stack always "keller", that's so confusing [15:22] <th> fake: enqueued [15:23] <hannes_> fake: cool! [15:23] <hannes_> fake: when will we meet n the weekend? [15:27] <fake> hannes_: i *may* be in munich @nos's :( [15:28] <mnemoc> sad face because of 'may' or because of '@nos' ? [15:28] <hannes_> the last [15:29] <mnemoc> oh [15:29] <fake> mnemoc: because i can't meet hannes_ when i'm in munich -> @nos's [15:30] <mnemoc> :\ [15:30] Action: hannes_ going home... [15:30] <hannes_> bye [15:32] <fake> cya later [15:35] <netcrow> hi esden [15:36] <daja77> *sigh* i really have no clue about java [15:37] <esden> puhh ... my phone is ringing constantly! [15:37] <esden> I feel like on a support line >_< [15:37] <esden> is blindcoder somewhere around? [15:37] <fake> daja77: need help? [15:37] <blindcoder> esden: sure [15:37] <esden> good [15:39] <netcrow> esden: route a 0190-number to your phone ;) [15:39] <esden> hehe ... that is a nice idea ... I should do it ;) [15:40] <daja77> O_o phone sex with esden? [15:46] <esden> daja77 I am sure you would be the first one to call me ;) [15:46] <daja77> of course ;) [15:52] <fake> where has MAX_BLKDEV gone? [15:54] <fake> hm, nevermind [15:56] <hannes_> re [16:33] ringo (ringo78@xs2.xs4all.nl) left irc: "." [16:49] Action: fake making more coffee [16:53] <netcrow> koffeinfrei! [16:53] Action: netcrow making more backups [17:00] <fake> netcrow: no posion in my cup [17:05] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EACB0.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Verlassend" [17:09] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EACB0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:18] <fake> aaargh [17:18] <fake> elton.tv @ viva [17:18] <daja77> haha! [17:19] <fake> people are sooo stupid... [17:42] treo (~xfman@D8f8f.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [17:43] <treo> sali [18:07] [anders2] (~snafu@82-68-84-60.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:10] <esden> ok ... I leave home now [18:10] <esden> cu guys [18:16] esden (~esden@p50804515.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Computer goes to sleep!" [18:31] <blindcoder> back [18:32] <daja77> wb blindcoder [18:33] <daja77> *sigh* i could have been at home, when i would not wait for sm recreate ... [18:46] [anders2] (~snafu@82-68-84-60.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #rocklinux. [19:00] tcr (~tcr@p54879D98.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [19:37] Captain (~Captain@d142-59-231-163.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:40] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-094-119.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:40] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-094-119.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. 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[22:08] <ViejoTorreon> alguien habla en español [22:09] <lewellyn> yo hablo ingles, solo [22:09] <ViejoTorreon> cool heavy [22:09] <daja77> mnemoc does [22:09] <ViejoTorreon> mmm [22:09] <ViejoTorreon> pero lo entiendes [22:10] <lewellyn> un poquito, si :) [22:11] tcr (~tcr@p54879D98.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:12] <ViejoTorreon> oye para que es este canal [22:13] <lewellyn> no soy un americano tipico [22:13] <ViejoTorreon> (º.º) [22:13] <lewellyn> ViejoTorreon: no comprendo [22:14] <ViejoTorreon> channel what [22:14] <lewellyn> si usted permanece aquí, alguien que habla español debe llegar [22:15] <lewellyn> i had to use a translator, my apologies [22:20] <ViejoTorreon> listo [22:20] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EACB0.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:22] <lewellyn> ok. back to work with me [22:37] ViejoTorreon (Lancelot@200.21.194.146) left irc: [22:53] <treo> gn8 [22:54] treo (~xfman@D8f8f.d.pppool.de) left irc: "cya@all" [23:03] nzg (~tschmidt@pD95F868E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. 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