[00:01] <daja77> hi fake 
[00:01] <fake> hi daja77!
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[00:11] <owl> gn8
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[09:03] <esden> good morning everyone
[09:08] <blindcoder> moin moin
[09:08] <blindcoder> what's gotten into you to being awake at _this_ hour?
[09:09] <blindcoder> or better, who have you gotten into :D
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[10:17] <th> moin
[10:17] <blindcoder> moin th
[10:18] <netrunner> http://www.heise.de/security/artikel/49687
[10:20] <blindcoder> sweet, my mozilla crashedh on that link :)
[10:22] <blindcoder> and keeps crashing
[10:24] <th> "If you see this text, your browser do not support javascript." tells me my firefox
[10:24] <th> and js is not disabled
[10:24] <netrunner> well, my firefox works fine on that link :)
[10:25] <blindcoder> must be the underlying OS here
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[10:27] <esden> hi ho everyone
[10:28] <blindcoder> wb esden 
[10:29] <esden> hi blindcoder
[10:29] <esden> damn cold ... I hate it!
[10:30] Action: blindcoder warms himself on the hot air coming from the two SunFire 4800 here
[10:31] <esden> :P
[10:33] <netrunner> jo esdo
[10:33] <netrunner> hm.
[10:33] <netrunner> this should read hi esdi, but sounded equally cool :)
[10:35] <esden> humm ... I am happy that you found a new good sounding name for me ... *headshake*
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[12:20] <owl> moin
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[12:42] <mnemoc> moin
[12:42] <netrunner> moin mnemmy
[12:43] <mnemoc> :)
[12:47] <mnemoc> netty, do you know how to remove by hand an extension from thunderbird? :(
[12:48] <netrunner> how by hand? does the settings dialog not work?
[12:49] <mnemoc> it doesn't start :\
[12:51] <netrunner> the dialog or thunderbird?
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[12:52] <mnemoc> thunderbird
[12:53] <netrunner> mnemoc: hm. I don't use thunderbird, but firefox has a subdir 'extensions' in .mozilla/firefox/default.mt2
[12:53] <netrunner> maybe if you move this somewhere else ...
[12:54] Action: mnemoc searching
[12:54] <mnemoc> {27A2FD41-CB23-4518-AB5C-C25BAFFDE531} <--- the name of the damn extension
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[13:01] <mnemoc> finally :)  ... after 6 restarts thunderbird reconstructed everything i deleted :p
[13:01] <mnemoc> thanks netrunner for the tip
[13:04] <blindcoder> d'oh
[13:04] <blindcoder> why does svn report "no route to host" when it means "connection refused"?
[13:08] <mnemoc> 1.1.1 claim to have improved their error messages
[13:13] <mnemoc> uhm slmodem didn't updated [V] 2.9.10
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[13:40] <owl> <- off, running away and having stress. bye
[13:41] <mnemoc> cu owl :\
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[13:58] <blindcoder> okay, next newsletter prepared
[14:58] <netrunner> mnemoc: oh sorry 
[14:59] <netrunner> we should really extract the version from the filename
[15:00] <mnemoc> it's funny to see it passed all the validation phases
[15:06] <netrunner> mnemoc: well, then it came up to you :)
[15:07] Action: mnemoc , the last line of defence :)
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[15:35] <madtux> hello
[15:35] <daja77> hi madtux!
[15:35] <madtux> daniel!
[15:35] <mnemoc> mike
[15:35] <madtux> mny
[15:38] <netrunner> hy maddy
[15:39] <madtux> hello netty
[15:52] <blindcoder> DONE IT!
[15:52] <blindcoder> WEE!
[15:53] <blindcoder> Set up a Wiki with a subversion backend :D
[15:53] <madtux> err.. blindy?!
[15:53] <madtux> ah :)
[15:53] <blindcoder> no, not sex :P
[15:53] <madtux> blindcoder: i though u had lost ur virginity
[15:55] <blindcoder> nah, I'll save it for the "special someone," you know
[16:00] <madtux> we'll see if you say the same thing with a sexy girl over you BEGIN for it
[16:03] <blindcoder> probably not :D
[16:06] <daja77> every girl is a special someone in that case ...
[16:10] <madtux> :)
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[16:48] <fake> moin
[16:49] <daja77> moin fake 
[16:56] Action: fake calling t-com
[16:56] <fake> great,,, jingle... welcome message.... ..... nothing ..... .... hangup.
[16:57] <fake> fuck
[16:57] <fake> i thought getting additional MSN's was free for up to 10
[16:58] <fake> but since 2004 it costs 10 EUR / MSN
[16:58] <daja77> huh?
[16:58] <fake> idiots
[17:02] <netrunner> fake: only once?
[17:03] <netrunner> fake: may I suggest taking arcor? they offer flat phone and dsl for the price of the base fee of T
[17:07] <fake> netrunner: once, yes. but me baka could have ordered it a year ago...
[17:07] <fake> netrunner: i hate T for service and fees, but once they got everything fixed, they're pretty reliable
[17:07] <fake> netrunner: besides, i don't have to pay it ;))
[17:13] <blindcoder> back
[17:13] <netrunner> front
[17:13] <blindcoder> side
[17:14] <netrunner> touch!
[17:14] <netrunner> :)
[17:14] <blindcoder> who? where?
[17:16] <mnemoc> blindcoder: congratulation for your new baby :)
[17:16] <madtux> 0_o
[17:17] <netrunner> blindcoder: ?? daddy blindy?
[17:17] <mnemoc> his svnwiki to documentate rock
[17:17] <mnemoc> :p
[17:17] <blindcoder> :)
[17:17] <madtux> mnemoc: you DON'T paly with people's emotions like that
[17:17] <madtux> play*
[17:17] <blindcoder> madtux: so, how _do_ you play with people's emotions?
[17:18] <madtux> blindcoder: i don't :)
[17:18] <blindcoder> good boy :)
[17:18] <madtux> i'm a nice guy
[17:18] <blindcoder> yeah, I noticed that a long time ago
[17:19] <madtux> oh.
[17:19] <madtux> mm.. danke. ;-)
[17:19] <mnemoc> cutetux :)
[17:19] <madtux> (i guess)
[17:19] <mnemoc> tinytux?
[17:20] <madtux> mnemoc: so that how you call ur little friend huh? :)
[17:20] <madtux> i still don't have a friend for my own 
[17:20] <madtux> a name*
[17:20] Action: madtux coredumping
[17:20] <mnemoc> err
[17:21] <madtux> i need coffee brb
[17:21] <netrunner> *ROFL* http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Living/story?id=235788&page=1
[17:21] <netrunner> not that I needed such an device, but the idea of a remote control ...
[17:22] <netrunner> think about finding out the frequency of your co-worker ... :)
[17:22] <madtux> omfg :)
[17:23] <netrunner> bbl, going home, getting some guests to party :)
[17:24] <blindcoder> okay, I just added links to ROCKDoc and ROCK Sonar to the Documentation part of the ROCK website
[17:24] <madtux> guests..
[17:24] <blindcoder> madtux: yes. other people call them girls for wild orgies :D
[17:24] <madtux> mm... in the tourism industry they use the term "guests" to define sex girls
[17:24] <madtux> :)
[17:25] <madtux> blindcoder: we are in the same frequency i guess :)
[17:25] <madtux> oh yeah.. thats probably because we celebrate our bday at the same time
[17:25] <madtux> :)
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[17:38] <blindcoder> madtux: indeed, indeed :)
[17:39] <madtux> :)
[17:39] <blindcoder> the stars are at fault
[17:40] <fake> blindcoder: i broke it all
[17:40] <fake> ;-)
[17:41] <ojh> Hello. I have some questions about writing 'desc' and 'conf' files for adding packages.
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[17:41] <blindcoder> fake: yeah, thought so :)
[17:41] <blindcoder> fake: have fun :)
[17:41] <fake> i will!
[17:43] <ojh> I want to build the 0.40 version of Inkscape but it equires a 'libgc' that by default trys to overwrite headder files provided by gcc. Of course ROCK stops such foolishness. How can I pass a custom install prefix using the '.conf' file?
[17:44] <blindcoder> ojh: that's easy:
[17:44] <blindcoder> ojh: just add -  for example - prefix="/opt/libgc"
[17:44] <blindcoder> ojh: in the conf file
[17:44] <blindcoder> eh
[17:45] <blindcoder> prefix="opt/libgc"
[17:45] <blindcoder> this way
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[17:46] <ojh> I added that line and am re-Emerging . . . 
[17:47] <ojh> But this could be a bit, I'm also emerging WINE right now too . . . 
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[17:48] <tcr> th: ping?
[17:50] <ojh> My build of libgc failed :( i got:
[17:50] <ojh> !> Found shared files with other packages:
[17:50] <ojh> !> usr/include/gc.h: gcc3 libgc
[17:50] <ojh> !> usr/include/gc_cpp.h: gcc3 libgc
[17:50] <ojh> !> usr/include/gc_local_alloc.h: gcc3 libgc
[17:50] <ojh> !> usr/include/gc_pthread_redirects.h: gcc3 libgc
[17:51] <ojh> Any thoughts on what went wrong?
[17:51] <mnemoc> rock-2.0?
[17:52] <ojh> Yes 2.0
[17:53] <ojh> My log shows for the configure:
[17:53] <ojh> Running  ./configure --prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/bin --sbindir=/usr/sbin --libdir=/usr/lib --datadir=/usr/share --includedir=/usr/include --infodir=/usr/info --mandir=/usr/man --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --disable-debug --enable-libpam --enable-pam --build=i386-unknown-linux-gnu --host=i386-unknown-linux-gnu --enable-cplusplus
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[17:53] <ojh> So it ignored the prefix directive
[17:54] <blindcoder> just a moment
[17:54] <ojh> THX
[17:54] <mnemoc> lunch :)
[17:54] <blindcoder> oh
[17:54] <blindcoder> # This function sets the 'confopt' and some other variables.
[17:54] <blindcoder> # Re-run it in the package .conf file if you modify $prefix
[17:54] <blindcoder> that's why :)
[17:54] <blindcoder> ojh: try this:
[17:55] <blindcoder> if [ $prefix_auto = 1 ] ; then
[17:55] <blindcoder> prefix="opt/libgc"
[17:55] <blindcoder> set_confopt
[17:55] <blindcoder> fi
[17:55] <mnemoc> when did you introduced libgc on 2.0?
[17:56] <mnemoc> bbl 
[17:56] <ojh> After syncing with the package tree using Subversion.
[17:57] <ojh> Attempting the emerge again
[17:57] <th> tcr: what's up?
[17:59] <tcr> th: the /etc/profile that comes with Rock sets INPUTRC automatically to /etc/inputrc. I'd favor dispatching on the condition if $HOME/.inputc exists or not.
[18:00] <tcr> ~/.inputrc of course.
[18:01] <ojh> blindcoder: OK, the prefix directive was set correctly but the libgc build ignored it :/
[18:01] <ojh> Messy . . .
[18:03] <blindcoder> ojh: then it's off to some Makefile patching :)
[18:04] <tcr> th: What d'ya think?
[18:06] <ojh> Yes it is . . . . thanks for the help :)
[18:10] <blindcoder> ojh: you're welcome (also to write down your experience in the newly-created-and-thus-nearly-empty-rock-documentation-wiki :)
[18:12] <ojh> Oh, wait it DID install in /opt/libgc but still gave errors about overwritong files in /usr . . . 
[18:13] <blindcoder> ojh: ah yes
[18:13] <blindcoder> ojh: you didn't remove libgc before reemerging?
[18:13] <ojh> And proped metadata generated in /var/adm
[18:14] <ojh> blindcoder: oh, I see . . . needed to 'mine -r libgc' first .  . .
[18:14] <blindcoder> ojh: Emerge-Pkg actually calls Build-Pkg -update wich _does_ _not_ delete existing files nor overwrite files whose content changed
[18:15] <blindcoder> ojh: for that reason the old flist is attached to the new one
[18:15] <ojh> blindcoder: I'll do it cleanly then.
[18:18] <ojh> blindcoder: Is there a site for optional and user contrib build scripts?
[18:18] <blindcoder> ojh: just submit it to submaster
[18:19] <ojh> blindcoder: I have a number of custom scripts completed, 9 packages to date :)
[18:19] <blindcoder> ojh: detailed information on submitting patches: http://scavenger.homeip.net/rockdoc/SubmittingPatches
[18:19] <ojh> THX, latter :)
[18:19] <blindcoder> brb telephone
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[18:23] <th> tcr: i did not know about inputrc up to now
[18:33] <tcr> th: :), So?
[18:33] <th> tcr: i agree to you.
[18:46] <blindcoder> bah, parents
[18:46] <blindcoder> talking and talking and talking and ...
[18:53] <fake> yes.... hardware... *HARR*
[18:55] <blindcoder> fake's getting a kick of his new toy :)
[18:55] <fake> harr harr harr
[18:55] <fake> that's a harddrive for real men!
[18:56] <blindcoder> bah, I'd also need a new harddrive after my old burnt out with almost 31337 errors
[18:56] <fake> blindcoder: they're rather cheap now...
[18:57] <blindcoder> fake: cheap or not doesn't matter if you lack the money for it
[18:57] <blindcoder> well, I'm still waiting for 500 EUR so I just have to sit back and wait :)
[18:59] <blindcoder> damn, I need a new anime to watch
[18:59] <blindcoder> now that I've seen all of Ranma
[19:02] <tcr> fake: Which one?
[19:04] <netrunner> uah chaos here.
[19:05] <netrunner> 3 girls in my kitchen cooking chinese food
[19:06] <blindcoder> netrunner: you're free to give'em to me :D
[19:10] <fake> tcr: samsung datalux
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[19:53] <daja77> re
[20:15] <lewellyn> re
[20:16] <blindcoder> deer
[20:17] <madtux> bier!
[20:17] <lewellyn> mmm... beer...
[20:17] <madtux> :)
[20:17] <lewellyn> can't drink yet. it's too early...
[20:17] <lewellyn> "you aren't an alcoholic till you start before noon!" ;)
[20:19] <blindcoder> lewellyn: well, last friday I had two beer at 9 AM :/
[20:19] <blindcoder> does that count?
[20:19] <lewellyn> dunno. i don't make the rules, i just break them.
[20:20] <lewellyn> i look at it this way: "it's always midnight somewhere in the world!" :)
[20:20] <blindcoder> hehe
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[20:32] <fake> hi lewellyn 
[20:34] <lewellyn> hoi fake 
[20:38] Action: fake writing emails to a plant
[20:38] <fake> http://angelika.endicor.de/
[20:39] <blindcoder> d'oh
[20:39] <daja77> hehe fyou fell in love with her?
[20:39] <blindcoder> I thought you meant a power plant :)
[20:42] <blindcoder> hmm
[20:42] <blindcoder> mailinglist have been relatively quiet this month
[20:43] <blindcoder> less than half as last month
[20:45] <owl> re
[20:46] <blindcoder> wb owly
[20:48] <owl> thx blindy
[20:50] <daja77> damn it, whats the name of the dvd descrambling lib?
[20:50] <blindcoder> decss?
[20:51] <daja77> grep -r decss package, returned no hits
[20:51] <blindcoder> libcss and libdvdcss found
[20:51] <daja77> ah
[20:51] <daja77> thx
[20:54] <daja77> *grmpf* doesn't build on crystal like mplay due linux26-headers
[20:57] <blindcoder> ehm... in a language that I understand?
[20:58] <daja77> In file included from /usr/include/asm/byteorder.h:57,
[20:58] <daja77>                  from /usr/include/linux/cdrom.h:14,
[20:58] <daja77>                  from ioctl.c:63:
[20:58] <daja77> /usr/include/linux/byteorder/little_endian.h:43: error: parse error before "__cpu_to_le64p"
[20:58] <daja77> /usr/include/linux/byteorder/little_endian.h: In function `__cpu_to_le64p':
[20:58] <daja77> /usr/include/linux/byteorder/little_endian.h:45: error: `__le64' undeclared (first use in this function)
[20:58] <daja77> /usr/include/linux/byteorder/little_endian.h:45: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
[20:58] <daja77> /usr/include/linux/byteorder/little_endian.h:45: error: for each function it appears in.)
[20:58] <daja77> better?
[20:58] <blindcoder> much better :)
[20:59] <blindcoder> return(0);
[20:59] <daja77> sucks
[21:00] <blindcoder> guess I'll go to bed now. Have a few books to read :)
[21:00] <blindcoder> bye
[21:01] <daja77> n8 blindcoder 
[21:02] <daja77> i hate it
[21:02] <daja77> http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+2.6.9+header+sanitize&btnG=Search&hl=en&lr=
[21:21] <fake> it's working... dabdidabdidu
[21:22] Action: daja77 screaming around
[21:30] <daja77> hm why are we using kernel headers instead of glibc headers 
[21:34] <fake> daja77: *we* arent
[21:35] <daja77> i see that, but why
[21:36] <lewellyn> i think daja77 mean the "collective we"
[21:36] <fake> damn, this hard drive is *fast*
[21:37] <fake> daja is #77 of 230945808984390284 ?
[21:37] <fake> ;)
[21:37] <daja77> O_o
[21:37] <fake> daja77: becuase some information in the kernelheaders isn't replicated in glibc
[21:38] <fake> and people don't want to copy over and ship kernel headers for some reason
[21:38] <daja77> and the kernel headers are breaking apps 
[21:38] <fake> no the apps are broken
[21:38] <daja77> right
[21:38] <fake> the kernel header problem is that they are intended to be used only by the kernel
[21:38] <daja77> i know all that stuff
[21:38] <fake> so it's their proclaimed right to change whatever they want
[21:39] <fake> as long as the kernel compiles and works, it's fine
[21:39] <daja77> thing is that i just wanted to work a bit on rock, in the few minutes i have for rock, and that crap is stealing my time
[21:39] <fake> i think they're doing it on purpose, at least a bit, so app developers begin thinking twice about including kernel headers
[21:40] <lewellyn> fake: unfortunately, it will make even fewer distros be "supported"
[21:40] <daja77> think so, yes
[21:40] <lewellyn> "sorry, it only works on XXX and YYY. ZZZ will no longer be supported. everything else will not work."
[21:41] <lewellyn> vmware is bad enough about that
[21:41] <daja77> sometimes linxu just sucks
[21:42] <fake> vmware?
[21:42] <fake> the only problem i have with vmware is it insisting on the old dev layout
[21:42] <lewellyn> fake: like bochs, but not. :)
[21:42] <lewellyn> oh. my issue with vmware is that their first question is "what distro do you use?"
[21:42] <daja77> yeah
[21:43] <lewellyn> as soon as it's not one of the dozen or so versions they support, it's automatically a distro problem
[21:43] <fake> that's mostly because of the differen init.d / rc?.d locations
[21:43] <lewellyn> last time, when vmware crashed and i couldn't start my vms, i wouldn't let them get away with that
[21:43] <lewellyn> got a nice explanation of their locking mechanism, at least :)
[21:44] <fake> you called support and spoke to a techie?
[21:44] <lewellyn> they call me :)
[21:44] <lewellyn> local call
[21:45] <lewellyn> most of their guys are pretty clueless, though.
[21:45] <lewellyn> i'm sure i've ranted about vmware support in here.
[21:46] <lewellyn> i really need to add a few more sticks of ram to this box, though. it doesn't run well when i have 3-4 VMs running
[21:46] <fake> hm... why so many VMs ?
[21:47] <lewellyn> need to test on all flavors of windows
[21:48] <fake> wine ;-)))
[21:49] <fake> lookandfeel=win31/win95/win98/win2k/winxp ;)
[21:50] <lewellyn> but it's not really win95/95a/95b/95c/98/98se/2k/2ksp1/2ksp3/2ksp4/me/xp/spsp2...
[21:50] <lewellyn> when a client reports a specific behavior, we need to be able to duplicate it.
[21:51] <lewellyn> ideally, we'd like to see it beforehand
[21:51] <lewellyn> so they don't :)
[21:56] <lewellyn> i mean, i *could* install crossover linux and install most of the required apps. but it's still not going to be the same as doing things on a native os.
[21:56] <lewellyn> in some respects, wine is a better windows than windows. (on both edges of the sword)
[21:56] <fake> sure.
[21:57] <fake> i used vmware a lot, too, when i was working for a non-exclusively-unix company
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[21:58] Action: daja77 avoids wine whenever possible
[21:59] <fake> yes, but unfortunately vmware's directx/ogl support is no match for wine
[21:59] <lewellyn> i don't need such things :)
[21:59] <fake> the only reason i have wine is Battlefield Vietnam ;)
[22:00] <daja77> O_o
[22:00] <lewellyn> i mostly need outlook and a few browsers :)
[22:00] <fake> a match a month or so
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[22:10] <esden> Very nice big bunch of work done today ;)
[22:10] <esden> re hi sbtw
[22:10] <madtux> wow esden is here again
[22:10] <madtux> hello esdy
[22:10] <esden> ack
[22:10] <esden> seems so ;)
[22:10] Action: esden packing up his stuff to go home
[22:11] <esden> so I thought I take a look what is going on here ;)
[22:11] <madtux> IN ?
[22:11] <esden> nono ... work -> cell in munich ;)
[22:12] <madtux> Jak sie masz?
[22:12] <esden> dobrze dziekuje ;)
[22:13] <esden> you seem to learn polish?
[22:13] <madtux> Nie mowie po polsku :(
[22:14] <madtux> but i'm trying to learn yes
[22:14] <madtux> :)
[22:14] <esden> that is still more then I can say in chinese ;)
[22:14] <madtux> but less than what u can say in spanish
[22:15] <esden> I would not bet on that ;)
[22:15] <madtux> :P
[22:15] <esden> my spanish is very very rusty!
[22:15] <esden> damn cold!!!
[22:15] <esden> I hate it
[22:15] <madtux> after a few beers it will be perfect
[22:15] <lewellyn> mas tequila!
[22:15] <lewellyn> the two words everyone here knows ;)
[22:16] <madtux> esden: since you are packing maybe u just want to come straigh here?
[22:16] <madtux> :)
[22:16] <esden> beer ... or tequila ... very nice idea
[22:16] <madtux> there is better stuff than tequila
[22:16] <esden> I think I need some medicine when I am at home ;)
[22:16] <madtux> but u need to be hispanic to actually know it :)
[22:16] <madtux> u need no medicine.. u need tequila
[22:16] <madtux> right lewellyn ?
[22:16] <esden> it is alcohol ... that is medicine for a cold
[22:17] <madtux> :P
[22:17] <esden> it kills all bacteria very well ;)
[22:17] <madtux> good point
[22:17] <lewellyn> madtux: exactly
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[22:19] <hannes_> hi
[22:19] <esden> hi hannes!
[22:19] <madtux> lo
[22:20] Action: esden *TROOOOOT*
[22:20] <esden> DAMN COLD
[22:20] <lewellyn> it's cold here, too
[22:20] <esden> I really can start working as truck trumpet ;)
[22:20] <lewellyn> think our high is only 60F today ;)
[22:20] <madtux> 23C here :)
[22:21] <madtux> maybe 24
[22:21] <madtux> :)
[22:21] <madtux> lewellyn: from us i asume?
[22:21] <madtux> US*
[22:21] <esden> madtux:  I hate you!!!
[22:21] <mnemoc> 28C here :)
[22:21] <madtux> esden: why would u hate me?
[22:21] <madtux> mnemoc: thats too hot for me
[22:21] <madtux> :)
[22:21] <esden> because of the temperature >_<
[22:21] <lewellyn> oops. 55F
[22:22] <lewellyn> mad: yes
[22:22] <madtux> esden: would u like me to take a picture outside for u ?
[22:22] <lewellyn> http://www.crh.noaa.gov/forecasts/CAZ006.php?warncounty=CAC075&city=San+Francisco
[22:22] <mnemoc> yesterday it was 34C plus 38% of humidity :\     stinks
[22:22] <esden> no thanks that would kill me probably
[22:22] <lewellyn> 10C outside
[22:22] <madtux> lewellyn: easy to find out.. everyone else here speaks of celcius
[22:22] <lewellyn> madtux: yes, as does most of the sane world :D
[22:23] <lewellyn> esden: how cold is cold there?
[22:23] <SMP> lewellyn: probably close to 0
[22:23] <esden> ok ... I take my protel 99 book with me and go home ... to do some reading and learning ;)
[22:23] <mnemoc> thunderbirs' plugin on weather.com says F as 'Standard', and C as 'Metric'
[22:24] <lewellyn> mnemoc: that's because weather.com is a bunch of capitalist american pigs ;)
[22:24] <treo> gn8
[22:24] <lewellyn> adios esden 
[22:24] <lewellyn> treo: you leaving too?
[22:24] <esden> adios everyone
[22:24] <madtux> mnemoc: well i was in hell..
[22:24] <treo> yes ^^
[22:24] <madtux> esden: good night my friend
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[22:24] <mnemoc> madtux: you are the devil, you live there :)
[22:24] <madtux> mnemoc: at Manaus, Amazonas, i was at an Avg og 45C 90% humidity
[22:25] <mnemoc> _O
[22:25] <lewellyn> night treo
[22:25] <mnemoc> o_O
[22:26] <madtux> mnemoc: the scary thing is that i met a guy there who said that it was too cold for him, that his town up north was MUCH hotter than that
[22:26] <tcr> lewellyn, Cold enough that I dare to go out with mantel and shawl only. 
[22:26] <madtux> i wouldn't dare to go to that town.
[22:27] <tcr> Icy wind we have from time to time.
[22:28] <mnemoc> madtux: are those humans?
[22:28] <tcr> madtux, Could it be that that guy was horned and had a small goatbeard?
[22:30] <madtux> tcr: maybe his son or so
[22:30] <madtux> mnemoc: i doub so
[22:33] <tcr> I think it's all about habit; people do even get accustomed to Windows, so you see what's possible.
[22:39] <mnemoc> hehe
[22:40] <madtux> yes thats true
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[22:43] <SteffenP> hi all
[22:43] <fake> hi SteffenP 
[22:44] <hannes_> hi SteffenP 
[22:44] <SteffenP> hi fake, hannes_ and all the others
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[23:20] <daja77> erh someone got ffmpeg compiled without that stupid message
[23:20] <daja77> The Postprocessing code is under GPL and --enable-gpl is not specified
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[23:26] <daja77> ok patch is out
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[23:46] <fake> hi rockbot 
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