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[01:14] <SteffenP> hi alle
[01:15] <hannes_> hi SteffenP 
[01:15] <SteffenP> war im Kino.. Bergkristall anschaun.. ich war erstaunt ein guter Film mal aus Deutschland
[01:16] <SteffenP> Hannes er baut noch bei mir
[01:17] <hannes_> SteffenP: what was the film about?
[01:21] <SteffenP> hmm.. ohh sorry for the german..
[01:21] <SteffenP> :) about two villages in the moutains here in germany or austria.
[01:22] <hannes_> sounds interesting *g*
[01:26] <SteffenP> yep it was
[01:27] <hannes_> only about 2 villages
[01:32] <SteffenP> hmm i can't put it correct in words..
[01:33] <SteffenP> it was a nice and kind of sad story but with a happy end in the end.. :)
[01:36] <hannes_> what kind of film? action, dramatic, etc..
[01:36] <SteffenP> it wasn't an action film at all... dramatic
[01:36] <SteffenP> i would say
[02:13] <SteffenP> uhh it'äs still building.. but soon it will be done
[02:23] <SteffenP> how can i deselect these two packages? X -----5---9 176.200 import cpan=cpan-dbd-mysql 0000 / extra/base 0
[02:23] <SteffenP> X -----5---9 176.200 import cpan=cpan-dbd-pg 0000 / extra/base 0
[02:23] <SteffenP> adding an entry in the configuration with O cpan=cpan-dbd-pg won't help
[02:24] <SteffenP> oky i found it.. argh sometimes i'm just too stupid
[02:59] <hannes_> ;)
[03:34] <SteffenP> hmm gdl makes now some problems... uhhhh
[03:54] <SteffenP> ich fahr nach haus bis denn dann.
[03:55] <SteffenP> i'm driving home .. cu later all in a few minutes i'm bacl
[03:55] <SteffenP> err back
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[04:17] <SteffenP> so i am back
[04:19] <hannes_> rehi
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[04:25] <SteffenP> hi esden_ 
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[04:26] <hannes_> hi esdi!
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[04:39] <esden> hi ho everyone
[04:40] <SteffenP> rehi esden 
[04:40] <esden> hi steffen
[04:41] <esden> damn irc client
[04:41] <esden> I need another one
[04:41] Action: esden searching
[04:42] <fake> esden: install an operating system first ;)
[04:44] <hannes_> esden: what ircOS?
[04:45] <esden> fake: forget it!
[04:45] <esden> :P
[04:45] <hannes_> how can you have an irc client without os?
[04:45] <esden> hannes_:  you may guess ;)
[04:45] <hannes_> esden: ohhh...you have macosx crap on your laptop?
[04:47] <hannes_> esden: just install linux somewhere
[04:48] <esden> nope ... why should I ... as it seems I found what I was searching for
[04:48] <esden> one only has to search ... and not take the first best application one sees ;)
[04:49] <fake> hannes_: we tested the new livecd and noticed even mol works ;)
[04:49] <esden> and that pretty well
[04:49] <esden> fake made a pretty good job with that
[04:50] <esden> it needs some polishing but it is pretty nice already
[04:50] <fake> a few glitches though
[04:50] <esden> ack
[04:52] <hannes_> cool
[04:54] <fake> damn damn damn evil pango
[04:55] <fake> of death
[04:56] <esden> fake:  rename it to "black_pango" or so ;)
[04:57] <esden> or blango ... or so
[04:57] <fake> gnome_dependency_hell_participant
[04:57] <esden> sounds nice ;)
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[05:00] <esdentem> ahh very nice
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[05:02] <hannes_> esden?
[05:04] <fake> esden is doing... things
[05:05] <fake> (oh no! not things again!)
[05:06] <hannes_> esden lets it's child coming out again?
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[05:06] <esden_> test test
[05:06] <esden_> humm
[05:07] <hannes_> just take irssi from darwinports!
[05:07] <fake> my ip lougs ugly if reverese-resolved :-/
[05:07] <fake> *looks
[05:07] <fake> lougs? damn... 
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[05:08] <esden_> I have a machine with waaay too much power ... 
[05:11] <esden_> somehow I have to use that power
[05:11] <esden_> ;)
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[05:12] <esden> ok
[05:12] <esden> now it should be enough
[05:13] <esden> it seems to work propperly now
[05:13] <fake> esden: as i said, you can just leave it here... ;)
[05:14] <esden> leave what here?
[05:14] <esden> o_O
[05:14] <hannes_> weehe
[05:14] <hannes_> i just compilied dropbear and now it runs on my linksys wrt54g
[05:16] <hannes_> fuck! that's really nice
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[05:25] <SteffenP> hannes i get it compiled but i have to make a change in the source and a change in the parameter which is going to the compiler
[05:26] <hannes_> just send it up with submaster
[05:27] <SteffenP> first i'll make the diff file and then i will have to find out how this cmd_wrapper works.. i know i could use this 
[05:30] <hannes_> jop
[05:33] <SteffenP> how was the parameter for diff ... ahh moment
[05:34] <SteffenP> diff -r -Naur --ignore-space-change --ignore-all-space old/ new/
[05:34] <SteffenP> hmm moment
[05:34] <hannes_> diff -uN wuerd reichen
[05:34] <hannes_> would be enough...
[05:34] <SteffenP> oky
[05:36] <SteffenP> now i will see if the patchfile works
[05:36] <SteffenP> if one errormessage went away..
[05:36] <SteffenP> then i will have to find how i can change the compiler parameters
[05:37] <esden> ok ... some new nice toys installed
[05:38] <hannes_> toys?
[05:38] <hannes_> like macosX =)
[05:38] <SteffenP> oky the patch worked.. now how i can delete one parameter from the gcc-34 command?
[05:38] <SteffenP> -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED  <-- this parameter have to go away
[05:41] <SteffenP> ahh moment maybe i know another way .. :)
[05:48] <esden> yes some macosx toys
[05:52] <esden> ok ... now I play a bit with rock
[05:57] <SteffenP> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-app-devel-list/2004-August/msg00032.html
[05:57] <SteffenP> uhh oky i think it will take to much to write a patch..  
[05:59] <SteffenP> how was the thing that i can change one value to another?
[06:00] <SteffenP> there was something like : var_regexp something
[06:00] <SteffenP> how would this work
[06:02] <hannes_> var_append
[06:02] <hannes_> var_remove
[06:02] <hannes_> etc..
[06:04] <SteffenP> hannes_ no i get from gtk-config -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED ... but to use an old type of ComboBoxes you need to delete this flag
[06:05] <hannes_> i have no idea, sry
[06:13] <SteffenP> GCC_WRAPPER_FILTER is this a filter like everything i put in there won't be send to the gcc compiler?
[06:14] <hannes_> try it out
[06:14] <hannes_> no idea
[06:14] <hannes_> but could be
[06:14] <SteffenP> and to put in there something i use var_append or var_remove?
[06:16] <hannes_> jpo
[06:19] <esden> test
[06:19] <esden> humm
[06:21] <hannes_> esden: ?
[06:22] <esden> humm ... the damn network cable is slipping out of my laptop all the time
[06:22] <esden> and i loose my connection all the time
[06:22] <esden> >_<
[06:43] <hannes_> esden: was meinst du?
[06:43] <hannes_> esden: what do you mean?
[06:43] <esden> ja hannes
[06:43] <esden> soo
[06:43] <esden> I try to get fake to work with my ugly person ;)
[06:44] <hannes_> your keyboard sounds interesting :)
[06:45] <SteffenP> hmm
[06:45] <hannes_> meetme.conf or meetyou.conf
[06:46] <esden> hannes_: whoose?
[06:46] <esden> mine?
[06:46] <esden> my microphone is still on? o_O
[06:46] <hannes_> esden: the name of the file
[06:47] <SteffenP> ahh juhuuuuuu yippi... :o)
[06:47] <SteffenP> == 12/04/04 07:46:48 =[5]=> Finished building package gdl.
[06:47] <SteffenP> :o)
[06:47] <SteffenP> finally
[06:48] <SteffenP> hannes_: and how to send this patch in?
[06:48] <SteffenP> or better the two patch files?
[06:49] <hannes_> you have to unified diffs with p0
[06:49] <hannes_> place them in the package directory
[06:50] <SteffenP> hmm... ohh this package is already working
[06:50] <SteffenP> now the next one and again some stupid error
[06:50] <hannes_> and follow the instructions on www.rocklinux.org/seubmaster.html
[06:59] <SteffenP> oky ich mach mich erstmal zu bett dieses neue problem muß ich mir morgen anschaun
[06:59] <SteffenP> bis denn dann nachtchen
[07:01] <hannes_> bye bye
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[08:33] <blindcoder> hannes_: a great doc on submitting packages is here: http://scavenger.homeip.net/rockdoc/SubmittingPatches
[08:33] <blindcoder> SteffenP: http://scavenger.homeip.net/rockdoc/SubmittingPatches
[08:54] <hannes_> hi blindcoder 
[09:01] <blindcoder> moin hannes_ :)
[09:04] <hannes_> :() <-- yawn...
[09:04] <blindcoder> hehe
[09:06] <hannes_> waah...my cornflakes are empty
[09:06] <hannes_> i have to start doing better planing for the weekends :/
[09:24] <hannes_> i will go to bed now
[09:24] <hannes_> gnu n8!
[09:31] <blindcoder> planning is everything :)
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[10:27] <netrunner> moin
[10:29] <blindcoder> moin moin
[10:36] <tcr> moin
[10:38] <blindcoder> moin tcr 
[10:38] <blindcoder> tcr: I've added the chongqed.org blacklist to the rockdoc subversion repository
[10:44] <tcr> blindcoder, I didn't know that one has to use svn to modify the wiki; I don't think that any spammer will (ever?) do that, so the wiki has probably been secure as it is. 
[10:57] <netrunner> tcr: never heard of spammers scanning for open subversion repositories, filling your code with comments that advertise various stuff?
[10:58] <tcr> netrunner, No.
[11:00] <tcr> netrunner, Are they?
[11:01] <netrunner> tcr: I haven't, too. but would be a nice market niche :)
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[11:11] <treo> sali
[11:12] <blindcoder> tcr: subwiki uses subversion as beckend
[11:12] <blindcoder> backend
[11:17] <blindcoder> tcr: I implemented it as a subversion pre-commit hook. that means that subwiki will throw an error if a blacklisted link is found
[11:18] <blindcoder> tcr: and has the added advantage that it also can't be committed directly through subversion
[11:45] <netrunner> blindcoder: can't or can?
[11:46] <blindcoder> can't
[11:46] <netrunner> where is the advantage in removing this possibility?
[11:47] <blindcoder> the subversion is open to everyone (anon = write)
[11:47] <blindcoder> so it's just as easy to commit crap through subversion as it is through subwiki
[11:48] <netrunner> so can. :) can't is can  not :)
[11:48] <blindcoder> no it can't be done
[11:49] <blindcoder> because the blocking happens on the subversion level, not the subwiki level
[11:49] <netrunner> I think it is open to everyone?
[11:50] <blindcoder> yes, but not open to everyone to commit wiki spam
[11:51] <netrunner> ah, now I see the two lines belong to eachother :) thought it's a 2 point list of features of subwiki :)
[11:52] <blindcoder> ah, no :)
[11:52] <blindcoder> just a perl-script called from pre-commit hook
[11:52] <netrunner> damn, my throat starts to hurt :(
[11:52] <blindcoder> how so?
[11:56] Action: tcr hands a Wick Blau to netrunner.
[11:58] Action: netrunner argues if tcr is a irc spammer :)
[11:58] <netrunner> tcr: thanks :)
[12:01] <tcr> I'm in no way associated to the Wick copr.
[12:01] <tcr> corp.
[12:03] <blindcoder> heh
[12:03] <blindcoder> I'm so damn _good_
[12:03] <blindcoder> Just made the revision numbers in the SubWiki history viewer to links. using those you can now view older version of a page :)
[12:04] <blindcoder> and that without ever having used python before :)
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[14:14] <th> blindcoder: do you know of a good websvn viewer? to conveniently browse svn repos?
[14:19] <blindcoder> th: mod_svn?
[14:20] <th> blindcoder: that's the default one, isn't it? without browsing through revisions?
[14:20] <blindcoder> th: jepp
[14:20] <th> and this one still confuses me. cause i have to enter my password ever and ever again.
[14:20] <th> (for non-public repos)
[14:21] <th> mod_svn?
[14:21] <th> LoadModule dav_svn_module     modules/mod_dav_svn.so
[14:21] <th> LoadModule authz_svn_module   modules/mod_authz_svn.so
[14:21] <th> i only have these two
[14:21] <th> but i think you meant them
[14:21] <blindcoder> I meant those
[14:21] <th> do you have any experience on apache auth?
[14:22] <blindcoder> yes
[14:22] <blindcoder> what's the problem?
[14:22] <th> do you have an idea why my browser keeps asking for password every time i click on an href?
[14:23] <blindcoder> have you set an AuthName?
[14:23] <th> yo
[14:23] <th>     Satisfy Any
[14:23] <th>     Require valid-user
[14:23] <th>     AuthType Basic
[14:23] <th>     AuthName "Subversion repository"
[14:23] <blindcoder> satisfy any? what's that?
[14:23] <th> plus SVNParentPath, AuthzSVNAccessFile, AuthUserFile
[14:24] <blindcoder> ?
[14:24] <blindcoder> query
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[16:18] <madtux> hello
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[16:19] <daja77> hi madtux 
[16:19] <madtux> Mr. Daniel! :)
[16:20] <daja77> :D
[16:23] Action: blindcoder having lunch
[16:24] <madtux> blindcoder: funny i haven't even had breakfast yet
[16:24] <blindcoder> madtux: well, it's 16:30 here :)
[16:24] <madtux> its 9:30 here
[16:24] <madtux> oh its too late for lunch wait a few more hours then u have a decent dinner
[16:24] <blindcoder> just finished cooking
[16:28] <blindcoder> guess I miscalculated the amount of chilli neede
[16:28] <blindcoder> d
[16:28] <daja77> too less or too much
[16:28] <blindcoder> licking over my lips sends burning pain to my brain
[16:28] <blindcoder> but they remain intact.
[16:29] <daja77> too lees ;)
[16:29] <blindcoder> Guess I'll mix some sambal olek into the mix
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[16:48] <blindcoder> wb esden 
[17:34] <esden> re hi
[17:35] <blindcoder> esden: can you tell me your time of arrival again? I closed the irssi window :(
[17:35] <esden> blindcoder:  tztztz ;)
[17:35] <esden> one moment I send you an sms
[17:35] <blindcoder> e-mail is better :)
[17:37] <esden> humm ... ok ... sms is away ... 
[17:37] <blindcoder> okay, just got it :)
[17:37] <esden> but I still can write an e-mail
[17:37] <esden> that is really fun to write sms on laptop and send it with a handy using bluetooth
[17:38] <blindcoder> damn, my finger reek of garlic
[17:38] Action: esden bought a new cellphone today .. sbtw ;)
[17:38] <blindcoder> geldsau :)
[17:38] <esden> it is a realy nice thingy
[17:39] <esden> I think I worked enough in the last time
[17:39] <esden> I think I earned it ;)
[17:39] <esden> I mean the cellphone ;)
[17:40] <esden> not the money ... money is such a strange thing ... it is less importaint then such nice things like hardware or good food ... but still one needs it to be able to have the importaint things ... 
[17:41] <esden> ok that is materialism
[17:41] <esden> the other things like family or friends one can not buy
[17:41] <esden> but I have left that out of this calculation ;)
[17:42] <blindcoder> in my whole life I won't get as much money as I would earn :D
[17:43] <esden> may it be that your expectations/ego are too big? ;)
[17:44] <blindcoder> If there's anything that's bigger than _my_ ego I want it to be caught and shot immediately!
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[17:49] <esden> ROFL!
[17:50] <esden> ok ... so shoot me! ;)
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[17:51] <esden> hi tcr
[17:51] <esden> does anyone know if fake is back from the dead?
[17:53] <blindcoder> esden: you're not bigger than my ego
[17:53] <blindcoder> esden: I think he's still sleeping
[17:54] <esden> ohh ok
[17:54] <esden> he is realy sleeping longer then I do
[17:55] <esden> but his parents are not getting angry when one gets up too late ;)
[17:55] <esden> but why do I complain ... i still had something very importaint to do ... namely buying a cellphone ... ;)
[17:59] <blindcoder> :P
[17:59] <blindcoder> what phone is it?
[18:02] <esden> sony ericson T630
[18:02] <esden> the black one
[18:04] <blindcoder> hmm
[18:04] <blindcoder> don't know that
[18:04] <esden> I like it pretty much I have to say
[18:04] <blindcoder> okay, now that you've played with your cellphone do something productive and write a page or two into ROCKDoc :-)
[18:04] <esden> I know many people that had the previous model
[18:04] <esden> and they were pretty ok with it ;)
[18:05] <esden> blindcoder: yesterday as I was at fake's I realized that I currently know nearly nothing about rock .. 
[18:05] <esden> I will have to change that before I write anything in documentation ...
[18:07] <blindcoder> esden: did you ever? *runs*
[18:08] <daja77> hehe
[18:08] <esden> blindcoder: humm ... you may be right ... 
[18:09] <esden> when you ask me in that way ... I admit that I never knew anything about rock ....
[18:09] <esden> (is it better now?)
[18:09] <blindcoder> :P
[18:10] <esden> :P yourself
[18:10] <daja77>  /topic esden does not know what he is doin and never did
[18:11] <esden> daja77: hehe ;)
[18:11] <esden> you realized the trouth finally!
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[18:24] <esden> hrm
[18:24] <esden> ok ... I need really a shower now
[18:24] <esden> so I get one ;)
[18:25] <madtux> yeah you stink
[18:25] <madtux> i mean hello esden :)
[18:25] <SteffenP> fine most of my GTK problems are GTK incompatibility problems.. thats bad.... very bad.. 
[18:26] <esden> yes I know so I go for a shower ;)
[18:26] <esden> cu
[18:26] <blindcoder> madtux: a common typo
[18:26] <madtux> blindcoder: yeah :)
[18:27] <madtux> greetings blindy btw
[18:27] <blindcoder> moin madtux :)
[18:29] <blindcoder> madtux: http://www.bash.org/?5300
[18:29] <madtux> click
[18:30] <madtux> hehe
[18:30] <madtux> excellent
[18:42] <SteffenP> boah next package is able to build.. 
[18:42] <SteffenP> have anyone tried to build gnome2? (oky not the stable the trunk thing).
[18:56] <fake> *uuuargh*
[18:57] <daja77> hehe
[18:57] Action: fake currently upgrading to gnome 2.8.1
[18:58] <SteffenP> in what package do i have gnome-config?
[18:58] <SteffenP> the script because gnomelib is installed but no gnome-config shows up
[18:58] <fake> that in gnome14
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[18:59] <SteffenP> it is looking for gnomeConf.sh or gnome-config
[18:59] <fake> no idea
[18:59] <fake> gnome cruft...
[19:00] <SteffenP> fake and how far you've got with the proting thing?
[19:04] <fake> proting?
[19:04] <SteffenP> porting i mean
[19:04] <SteffenP> or preparing it isn't a port at all.
[19:04] <fake> the ppc livecd is almost ready
[19:13] <SteffenP> fake i guess you are right gnome-debug asks for the gnome-config which is only in gnome1x
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[20:29] <SteffenP> ahh the last 100 packages are going fine.. slow but fine.. juhuuu
[20:47] <fake> damn .pc file crap
[20:54] <blindcoder> .pc?
[20:57] <fake> package-config
[20:57] <fake> pkgconfig that is
[20:58] <blindcoder> ah
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[21:19] <SteffenP> why is libxslt trying to add libxml2.h into the tree.. this file isn't even included in the libxslt library.. 
[21:27] <SteffenP> what means fl_wrapper.wlog?
[21:27] <SteffenP> and fl_wrapper.rlog?
[21:27] <SteffenP> read and write access?
[21:29] <fake> writelog and readlog
[21:29] <fake> wlog = files written during build, rlog= files read during build
[21:30] <fake> a vital part of dependency detection
[21:30] <SteffenP> ahh oky.. 
[21:30] <SteffenP> and how can i make that a package will not put a file in a build?
[21:31] <fake> how would do talk a make / make install not to create a file somewhere?
[21:31] <fake> s,do,you,
[21:32] <SteffenP> the small little problem is make isn't writing the file.. 
[21:32] <SteffenP> fl_wrapper.wlog:bash(Build-Pkg)*.bash(configure).python.open64: /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/libxml2.pyc
[21:33] <SteffenP> i guess the configure script was touching the file
[21:33] <fake> oh
[21:34] <SteffenP> hmmm
[21:34] <fake> is it possible that it adds something to that file?
[21:34] <SteffenP> moment how can i find out?
[21:34] <SteffenP> ahh copying the file and check it
[21:34] <SteffenP> wait
[21:41] <SteffenP> diff libxml2.pyc libxml2.pyc-1
[21:41] <SteffenP> hmmm no no results.. i think it's the same file
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[21:43] <fake> interesting.
[21:43] <fake> when i stumble over it i'll fix it
[21:44] <SteffenP> hmm how can i use this package now?
[21:45] <fake> what package are we talking about?
[21:45] <SteffenP> libxslt
[21:46] <fake> uhm?
[21:46] <fake> hm.
[21:46] <fake> in which stage?
[21:46] <SteffenP> stange 9, trunk
[21:46] <fake> you are doing a stage 9 build?
[21:46] <fake> why?
[21:47] <fake> usually stage 9 is only used to be able to resolve as-of-then undiscovered dependencies
[21:47] <fake> crystal, the livecd and most other target's dont use a stage 9
[21:47] <SteffenP> because the ./script/Build-Target -cfg bla 
[21:47] <SteffenP> makes it
[21:47] <fake> uhm. yes. i forgot.
[21:48] <fake> i'm afraid i can't help you there, i didn't to stage9 builds in a long time
[21:48] <SteffenP> hmm can i create the install cd in an other way?
[21:48] <fake> i'll make some coffe now!
[21:48] <SteffenP> make me some too
[21:48] <fake> SteffenP: go bug hannes with it, i'm very busy ;)
[21:48] <SteffenP> hehe i'll.. 
[21:49] <SteffenP> it's his fault anyway that i'm here now.
[21:59] <blindcoder> patch-apply orgy :)
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[22:25] <SteffenP> what means the file parse_config?
[22:25] <mnemoc> parse-config are setting applied to every package
[22:26] <SteffenP> hmm i've looked at some packages is it possible to add there rules for the gerneration of a package?
[22:27] <mnemoc> what do you mean by 'generation'?
[22:27] <SteffenP> when a package gets build
[22:28] <mnemoc> rock has a build cycle, with lot of magic
[22:28] <mnemoc> magic that you can alter using hooks and altering vars
[22:28] <SteffenP> because i've still the paorblem that one configure script opens a file with rw and so the the buildprozess thinks it is needed in a package.
[22:39] <mnemoc> uhm?
[22:41] <netrunner> SteffenP: you could hard-remove it from the flist
[22:42] <SteffenP> netcrow: hmm.. there should be a right way to do it.. i mean just because i stupit config file touches a file in the wrong way didn't mean it to delete.. 
[22:42] <netrunner> SteffenP: you could patch the configure file :)
[22:44] <SteffenP> will the configure script new generated over autoconf or is rock using the one which comes with the sourcefile?
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[23:28] <treo> gn8
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