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[00:00] <esden> puhh ... finally installing crystal on the dell ... with some very nasty tricks ... >_< [00:00] <esden> but it works that is the most importaint thing [00:00] <daja77> :) [00:01] <esden> the second stage filesystem from the installation cdrom for example resides currently in a directory located on the target root partition ... ;) [00:47] madtux (~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr) joined #rocklinux. [01:05] ojh (~omer@67-42-51-4.eugn.qwest.net) joined #rocklinux. [01:05] ojh (~omer@67-42-51-4.eugn.qwest.net) left #rocklinux. [01:08] <esden> ok ... all packets installed [01:08] <esden> now compiling kernel [01:09] <esden> running ... [01:09] <madtux> esden: have fun :) [01:09] Action: daja77 copying new sources from the laptop [01:30] <esden> where does this warning come from: could not determine runlevel doing a softreboot when I run reboot come from? [01:30] <esden> is it intendet so? [01:30] <esden> or is it a bug? [01:32] madtux (~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr) left irc: "leaving" [01:36] <fake> shutdown -r now fixes that [01:38] <esden> aha .. ok [01:38] <esden> hi fake [01:38] <esden> and successfully arrived at cliffords? [01:39] <fake> jep [01:39] <fake> and i am damn tired... [01:39] <fake> i slept 2 hrs yesterday [01:40] <esden> o_O [01:40] <esden> why? [01:40] <esden> why have you not slept in the train? [01:41] <fake> because i was constantly disturbed by guys wearing all sorts of uniforms [01:41] <esden> urgh [01:41] <daja77> hi fake [01:42] <esden> fake: to better your mood your livecd helped me a lot today [01:42] <esden> I have rocklinux on the Dell machine now [01:42] <fake> yay! [01:42] <esden> thanks to your livecd ;) [01:44] <esden> a dumb question .. is submaster script also a rocklinux packet? [01:44] <esden> or contained somewhere? [01:44] <daja77> it is now iirc [01:45] <fake> yes, a patch to add a submaster package is in submaster ;) [01:45] <esden> but not in the stable tree? [01:45] <fake> in the meantime : [01:45] <fake> wget -O /usr/local/sm https://www.rocklinux.net/svn/submaster/trunk/sm.pl [01:45] <fake> wget -O /usr/local/smap https://www.rocklinux.net/svn/submaster/trunk/smap.sh [01:46] <fake> make that /usr/local/bin/{sm,smap} [01:46] <fake> chmod +x /usr/local/bin/{sm,smap} [01:48] <esden> what is smap? [01:48] <daja77> to apply sm patches [01:49] <esden> aha ... thanks [01:50] Action: daja77 just got an offer from someone who likes to be a seeder for our next release (bittorrent) [02:07] BoS^afk_ (~BoS@dialin-212-144-080-053.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [02:15] BoS^afk (~BoS@dialin-212-144-019-062.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:25] esden_ (~esden@p50804B22.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [02:25] <esden_> humm? [02:25] esden (~esden@p508046A5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Nick collision from services. [02:25] Nick change: esden_ -> esden [02:26] <daja77> *gg* [02:27] <esden> damn reconnects ... [02:28] <esden> I have to force my firm to get a normal hardline ... [02:28] Action: daja77 reconnecting esden [02:29] <esden> :P [02:30] <daja77> one could think you don't like me ;) [02:32] <esden> hehe ... that is a nice feature ... that i did not know yet: send email on a special event [02:33] <esden> daja77: why could? You think I like you? o_O [02:33] <esden> *GG* [02:34] <daja77> that's bad if you don't like me, think of our marriage [02:38] <esden> hehe ... yes [02:38] <esden> ok ... sources are downloading [02:39] <daja77> ah sources i have them at my build machine now [02:41] <daja77> clifford? fake? [02:45] <esden> I think they are already making a chilly evening with a pipe ;) [02:45] <daja77> :D [02:49] <esden> ok burning debian for alpha for testing ;) [02:53] Action: daja77 kicking new build [02:53] <daja77> n8 [02:54] <esden> n8 [03:20] mistik1 (rasta@ool-44c02704.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:30] esden_ (~esden@p508051DC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [03:34] mistik1 (rasta@ool-44c02704.dyn.optonline.net) joined #rocklinux. [03:47] Action: fake is chilling, but without a pipe ;P [03:47] <esden_> so you are now ready with a pipe ... ;) [03:48] <esden_> damn as4100 ... it does not support or find the cdrom in srm prompt >_< [03:48] esden (~esden@p50804B22.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:48] <esden_> and when I want to update the firmware it hangs when loading the files from floppy >_< [03:49] Action: esden_ uploading rock sources from his laptop to the dell machine ;) [03:49] <esden_> thank you fake for that ;) [03:50] Nick change: esden_ -> esden [03:51] <esden> aha ... and another funny thing ... when I connected the box last time to the power plug ... the lights went off and the "sicherung" said bye bye ;) [03:51] <esden> fuse [03:51] <esden> that is the word [03:52] <esden> hrm ... [03:52] Action: esden talking to himself ... [03:55] <fake> no [03:55] <fake> to a busy fake ;) [03:56] <esden> what are you doing? [03:56] <fake> twiddling vpn stuff so i can feel at home here ;) [03:59] <esden> hehe ... roadworior like ... or are you "inserting" clifford in the vpn network? [04:00] <esden> ahh ... sbtw ... greet him from me if he is in reach... [04:01] <fake> esden: greetings back. [04:06] blindcod1r (~blindcode@dsl-213-023-153-140.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [04:06] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-095-188.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [04:07] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [04:24] nzg (~tschmidt@s15173431.rootmaster.info) left irc: "gleich re" [04:25] haxmtrx (~haxmtrx@woh-166-215-234.woh.rr.com) joined #rocklinux. [04:25] haxmtrx (~haxmtrx@woh-166-215-234.woh.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [04:26] nzg (~tschmidt@s15173431.rootmaster.info) joined #rocklinux. [04:31] nzg (~tschmidt@s15173431.rootmaster.info) left irc: "... gleich re" [04:45] <esden> ok ... alpha cros build started [04:50] mnemoc_ (~amery@200.75.27.45) joined #rocklinux. [04:54] tschmidt (~tschmidt@s15173431.rootmaster.info) joined #rocklinux. [04:55] Nick change: tschmidt -> nzg [05:03] mnemoc (~amery@200.75.27.4) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:03] Nick change: mnemoc_ -> mnemoc [05:06] <esden> ok ... glibc is failing in stage 1 already... [05:06] <esden> that means work is waiting for me ... [05:06] <esden> I can go to bed now ;) [05:06] <esden> good night everyone [05:06] esden (~esden@p508051DC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: [05:24] Captain (~Captain@d142-59-231-163.abhsia.telus.net) joined #rocklinux. [07:37] Captain (~Captain@d142-59-231-163.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:13] kasc_ (kasc@dsl-213-023-204-208.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [08:16] netrunne1 (~andreas@pD9E8CF5D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [08:21] netrunner (~andreas@pD9E8E23A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:21] Nick change: netrunne1 -> netrunner [08:23] kasc (kasc@dsl-082-083-044-240.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:23] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [10:26] tcr (~tcr@pD9EAA4A4.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [11:09] Nick change: BoS^afk_ -> BoS [11:44] <netrunner> oh, found another uncommitted package [12:34] treo (~xfman@D8401.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [12:36] <treo> hi [12:47] <netrunner> hm. [12:48] <mnemoc> moin [12:50] <netrunner> moin mnemoc [12:52] <mnemoc> moin netrunner [13:03] Freak ([U2FsdGVkX@helena.bawue.de) joined #rocklinux. [13:40] <blindcoder> moin [13:48] <blindcoder> iso.rocklinux.de still down? [14:08] BoS_ (~BoS@dialin-212-144-002-215.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [14:18] <netrunner> grmpf. editing files during a sm sync includes them in the sm commit :/ [14:19] <daja77> yeah sure ... [14:19] BoS (~BoS@dialin-212-144-080-053.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:29] esden (~esden@p508051DC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [14:30] <esden> morning [14:31] <daja77> hi esden [14:34] tfing (~tfing@devnull.roulaize.net) joined #rocklinux. [14:34] <tfing> hi [14:35] <daja77> hi tfing! [14:35] <tfing> hello daniel [14:35] <esden> humm ... the alpha port really neads attention :( [14:36] <esden> already glibc in stage 1 is not compiling :( [14:36] <daja77> perhaps there are alpha specific patchsets which are not shippe dwith glibc [14:38] <esden> perhups perhups [14:41] <esden> ok ... I am off for ingolstadt [14:41] <esden> cu guys [14:41] esden (~esden@p508051DC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: [15:05] <SerWou> Hello the Chan [15:06] <mnemoc> hi SerWou [15:16] <SerWou> what's up mnemoc [15:18] <mnemoc> i have an amazing headache :\ [15:19] <SerWou> ok [15:19] <mnemoc> and you? [15:19] <SerWou> gonna take a little chocolate made by hand to fix your headache ;) [15:21] <mnemoc> yes, please :) [15:21] <daja77> patch -p0 < mnemoc_headache_fix.patch [15:22] <mnemoc> :p [15:47] SteffenP (~steffen@p5480430A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [16:53] SteffenP (~steffen@p5480430A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "https://www.bomberclone.de" [17:56] aXp (~aXp@dsl-24-187.utaonline.at) joined #rocklinux. [19:02] praenti (~praenti@mail.obster.org) joined #rocklinux. [19:02] <praenti> hi [19:02] <blindcoder> moin praenti [19:03] <praenti> blindcoder: do you know how i can manage that a script and his subscripts are executed as root [19:03] <blindcoder> chown root script [19:03] <blindcoder> chmod u+s script [19:03] <praenti> blindcoder: setting suid only works for the main-script, subscripts are executed as user [19:03] <blindcoder> in the script do su - subscript [19:04] <blindcoder> su - -c [19:04] <fake> what's up with iso.rocklinux.de ? [19:04] <blindcoder> fake: down since yesterday [19:04] <fake> damn...\ [19:04] <fake> . [19:06] <praenti> blindcoder: does not work, wants a password... [19:07] <praenti> blindcoder: interesting: [19:07] <praenti> root 7969 0.0 0.1 2768 936 pts/2 S+ 19:05 0:00 su - -c subscript [19:08] <praenti> and a C program does not work either [19:09] <praenti> and i don't want to write my root password somewhere on my filesystem [19:11] <th> fake: we need more mirrors. [19:11] <th> hi folks [19:11] <SerWou> hello th [19:11] <SerWou> you need HTTP mirrors for RockLinux ? [19:11] <fake> th: _ack_ [19:12] <th> SerWou: yes [19:12] <fake> SerWou: ISO and binary package mirrors [19:12] <fake> praenti: sudo can do that [19:12] <SerWou> i have a free space on my ISP web servers, something like 900Mo [19:13] <th> 900MB? [19:13] <praenti> fake: looks like this is the only way ;-) [19:13] <th> SerWou: or what is "Mo"? [19:13] <fake> MegaOctets [19:13] <SerWou> octets [19:13] <fake> that MB, yes [19:13] <SerWou> MB [19:13] <fake> *that's [19:14] <th> well we could put one iso to it [19:14] <fake> (french weirdos ;) [19:14] <blindcoder> my server-to-be will have a 250 GB traffic limit [19:14] <blindcoder> that won't do much [19:14] <SerWou> we works with Mb and Mo, more more logical then Mb and MB [19:14] <th> bit and oct? [19:15] <SerWou> yes [19:15] <SerWou> oct means 8 [19:15] <SerWou> octet means heigh bits [19:15] <SerWou> height [19:15] <blindcoder> and since the response to my BitTorrent request equals to Zero there is no hope there, either [19:16] <SerWou> whatever [19:16] <SerWou> do you want this 900MB space ? [19:16] <SerWou> How much you need/want ? [19:17] <th> much more [19:17] <SerWou> how much you need ? [19:18] <th> mompl [19:18] <th> te [19:18] <th> l [19:18] <SerWou> i have my own server connected to a 100Mbits Line [19:18] <SerWou> that's why i'm asking you that [19:19] <th> just a second [19:20] <th> back [19:21] <th> SerWou: i think 10GB would do for a start [19:21] <th> HDD's arent that expensive. [19:21] <th> perhaps we can buy one if HDD space is the limit [19:21] <SerWou> how much bandwith is used by a RockLinux mirror ? [19:21] <th> bandwiths is what we need [19:22] <th> we don't really know cause we just started to maintain binary servers again [19:22] <SerWou> no idea [19:22] <SerWou> 500BG a month ? [19:22] <SerWou> more ? [19:22] <th> shouldn't be more [19:22] <th> how is that machine connected you are talking about? [19:23] format_ (format@raidfibre.campus.alfred.edu) joined #rocklinux. [19:24] <format_> Hello everyone, I don't know if anyone is here but I'll ask anyway.. I'm installing ROCK linux on a Soekris net4501, and I cannot get the initrd.img file from the FTP server because I can't reach it [19:24] <format_> so I was wondering if someone could DCC it to me perhaps [19:24] <th> format_: our ftp/http server is currently down von maint. [19:25] Nick change: aXp -> daemon [19:25] <SerWou> it's a XP2000+ with 256Mo DDR, 40Go Drives, but i'm already hosting 2 website on it, a FTP server soon, and 2 Direct Connect Hub. I bough this server on a company where i made a internship in Miami, so, i don't pay for the extra bandwith used [19:25] <th> format_: what initrd.img are you talking about? [19:25] <format_> SerWou: the FTP server? [19:25] <th> SerWou: i see. [19:26] <format_> th: I am reading the guide here: https://www.rocklinux.org/128.html [19:26] <th> SerWou: sounds good. but we need some more than 900Mo [19:27] <format_> and it says "copy the initrd.img file from the ROCK install CD..." so I am just looking for that file [19:27] <SerWou> 900Mo was on my ISP www server, that's not a problem, my own Miami server got more free space, but buy a HD is a obligation if you want put some files their [19:27] <th> SerWou: perhaps we can manage that. [19:27] <format_> everything is working good up to this point :) [19:28] <th> SerWou: how much could you spare without buying a new hdd for the first time? [19:28] <th> format_: sorry i'm almost off. [19:29] <format_> I'd help you guys out with bandwidth but I already have a few large websites on my server [19:29] <SerWou> actually, they are not monitoring the bandwith i use, i paid for 200Go/month, i'm using something like 150Go, but they never send me some bandwith used stats ;) that's cool, but i don't know what they will say to me if i use 500Go/month [19:30] <blindcoder> format_: you can wait for the ftp to be back up or ask on the mailinglist if someone has a build at hand [19:30] <format_> blindcoder: so asking here is futile? [19:31] <blindcoder> format_: there are not many people around here right now that do regular builds [19:31] <blindcoder> format_: plus that was cliffords baby IIRC [19:31] <SerWou> hello blindcoder [19:31] <blindcoder> moin SerWou [19:33] <fake> format_: i can upload you an initrd somewhere, but that won't help you much if you don't have all the other packages on the cd [19:33] <format_> fake: I have the router archive, I just need that one file [19:34] <fake> format_: for what kernel / build ? you know, the kernel modules have to match the kernel [19:38] <format_> fake: if you are able to send me the vmlinuz and initrd.img from your copy I think it will work [19:38] <format_> this is for the initial PXE boot [19:43] <fake> sorry, but i have to go now [19:43] <fake> clifford is driving nuts [19:43] <fake> brb [19:44] <fake> format_: i bet blindcoder can give you that ;) [19:44] <blindcoder> actually, no [19:44] <blindcoder> I don't have that here [19:45] <format_> thanks guys [19:46] <format_> auf wiedersehen [19:46] format_ (format@raidfibre.campus.alfred.edu) left #rocklinux ("Client exiting"). [20:58] <owl> hi [20:59] <blindcoder> moin owly [21:01] <owl> hi blindy. did i say that we/i have always bad luck? today the "gaspedal" went away! [21:04] <th> oh it went away? [21:04] <th> some vacation for your gaspedal. [21:06] <owl> it went away as in "you're not able to drive again" - cuz there is no "widerstand" there anymore, cuz there must bhe the "gaspedalseil" gerissen oder so... [21:08] <blindcoder> ouch [21:09] <owl> yes. [21:56] <th> how can i start a program in gdb step-wise? [21:56] <mnemoc> n ? [21:57] <blindcoder> break main [21:59] <th> it's on win32 [21:59] <th> mnemoc: next just complains that the program is not running [21:59] <blindcoder> break out_in_tears [21:59] <th> blindcoder: and break main is set but not stopped at [22:00] <th> blindcoder: main is not a real symbol is it? [22:00] <blindcoder> yes it is [22:01] <th> hmm [22:02] <th> i just want to step through that code and view the dissassembled code [22:02] <th> but i can't cause run runs to much [22:02] <th> and i don't know how to start without "run" [22:02] <th> "break main" does not help cause it does not stop [22:03] <tcr> th: `start' [22:04] <th> Undefined command: "start". Try "help". [22:05] <th> uhh [22:05] <th> it does not seem to care breakpoints at all :-/ [22:05] <tcr> (gdb) help start [22:05] <tcr> Run the debugged program until the beginning of the main procedure. [22:05] <tcr> You may specify arguments to give to your program, just as with the [22:05] <tcr> "run" command. [22:05] <tcr> GNU gdb 6.2 [22:06] <th> GNU gdb 2003-09-20-cvs (cygwin-special) [22:06] <th> hmm sounds old [22:06] <tcr> Yeh. [22:06] <th> that one can't debug native win32 programs [22:06] <th> :-/ [22:07] <tcr> I bet they're proprietary, right? [22:07] <th> sure they are. [22:07] <tcr> Why else would you like to look at the machine code. [22:07] <th> i even have the source code. [22:07] <th> i'm developing on that code [22:08] <th> but there is some very strange behaviour on this linked binary [22:08] <tcr> Ah, I see, You can't probably read it because of hungarian notation? :) [22:08] <netrunner> re [22:08] <th> tcr: ;> [22:09] <th> where could i get a newer gdb from? [22:09] <tcr> Well, better get your hands on a newer gdb. Maybe even a native one, compiled with ming. [22:09] <th> compiling gdb. *shiver* [22:10] <tcr> Sure you are supposed to compile the code with gcc? [22:10] <th> no [22:10] <th> cl.exe from MSVC [22:10] <tcr> I think there are binary pkgs. So STFW and look how far .exe crap is supported. [22:11] <tcr> FWIW, cygwin does have a nice installer and updater. [22:12] <th> tcr: maybe i'm just to dump to use that updater. the installer only offers the version i have [22:12] <tcr> MSVC probably comes with a debugger, too. (But then, I heard the scariest things about msvc) [22:13] <th> i don't know how to use that debugger on binaries [22:13] <th> i started msvc but everything is greyed. [22:13] <tcr> Well, as said, stfw. [22:13] <tcr> :) [22:14] <tcr> Is that your code that's under suspicion? [22:16] <th> of my working group [22:21] <tcr> https://sources.redhat.com/gdb/current/onlinedocs/gdb_19.html#SEC166 [22:23] <th> yea i know this one. but i'm still missing the gdb itself [22:26] <tcr> I think MingGW should have it bundled. [22:26] <tcr> https://www.mingw.org/download.shtml [22:27] <tcr> Funny, the version there is even older than yours. But it actually *should* be able to cope with .exe's then. [23:56] daemon_ (~aXp@dsl-24-124.utaonline.at) joined #rocklinux. [00:00] --- Sun Dec 12 2004