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[00:15] Faustus (~Mephisto@d142-59-231-163.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:55] ojh (~omer@70-56-253-229.eugn.qwest.net) joined #rocklinux. [01:01] esden (~esdentem@apeiron-group.de) joined #rocklinux. [01:01] <esden> hi ho everyone [01:01] <fake> hi esden! [01:02] <esden> hi fake [01:02] Action: esden packing up his cell ... *sigh* that is a lot of work ... :( [01:10] <esden> fake: how is work search advancing? Found anything interesting? [01:11] <fake> esden: it's still weekend! [01:11] Action: esden brb [01:11] <esden> erm .. yes ... weekend ... [01:11] <esden> I knew there was something ;) [01:13] Action: esden brb [01:13] esden (~esdentem@apeiron-group.de) left irc: "leaving" [01:15] esden (~esdentem@62.75.251.252) joined #rocklinux. [01:15] <esden> re [01:22] ojh (~omer@70-56-253-229.eugn.qwest.net) left #rocklinux. [01:22] SteffenP (steffen@pD9E8F05C.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "https://www.bomberclone.de" [02:03] <esden> I will get sick of that what I am eating at the moment for sure! ;) [02:04] <esden> it sucks not having propper food at home >_< [02:04] BoS (~BoS@dialin-212-144-018-048.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [02:10] <mnemoc> fake: mail [02:12] <fake> mnemoc: checking... [02:14] BoS_ (~BoS@dialin-212-144-105-151.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:26] <fake> mnemoc: mail ;) [02:27] <mnemoc> fake: checking... [04:06] blindcod1r (~blindcode@dsl-213-023-152-056.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [04:06] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-213-023-154-167.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [04:06] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [04:56] mnemoc_ (~amery@200.75.27.31) joined #rocklinux. 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[11:20] <esden> I do not know why blindcoder is calling netrunner this way ... o_O [11:20] <blindcoder> esden: sleepiness [11:20] <esden> blindcoder: hehe ;) ... call him runni ;) [11:20] <blindcoder> nice idea :) [11:20] <esden> ack [11:21] <esden> it is mine ... it has to be nice ;) [11:21] <owl> *lol* [11:21] <blindcoder> well... no comment on that [11:21] <esden> heeey ... what do you mean with that!?! [11:22] <esden> my ideas are nice ...!! :( [11:22] <blindcoder> you don't want to know. trust me. [11:22] <esden> *wheep* ... you are mean to me ... *wheep* [11:22] <blindcoder> HARRHARR [11:23] <esden> *sigh* ... [11:23] <esden> you are uncorrectable [11:23] <blindcoder> I take that as a compliment :) [11:24] <blindcoder> cause, you know [11:24] <blindcoder> good things needn't be made better :) [11:34] Action: blindcoder -> lunch [11:42] <esden> *sigh* [11:42] Action: esden making a pizza ... [11:44] <daja77> 263 builds total, 195 completed fine, 1 with errors. [11:45] <esden> does anyone of you have a cdrom drive with scsi interface that reliably reads burned cd's? [11:45] <daja77> my old yamaha does that i think [11:46] <esden> hrm ... do you still need it? [11:46] <daja77> good question, haven't used the machine for more than a year [11:47] <fake> moin [11:47] <owl> hi fake [11:47] <daja77> hi fake [11:56] SteffenP (steffen@pD9E8F6A7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [12:06] aXp (~aXp@195.202.148.6) joined #rocklinux. [12:07] aXp (~aXp@195.202.148.6) left irc: Client Quit [12:08] <blindcoder> back [12:08] aXp (~aXp@195.202.148.6) joined #rocklinux. [12:19] <esden> ok ... now I have a dect extention too ;) [12:19] <esden> 2119 [12:19] <esden> ;) [12:21] <daja77> cool [12:22] Action: fake trying to get some coffee [12:22] <esden> very topic related fake [12:23] <daja77> https://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyimages/628.png [12:24] <blindcoder> do we only need the DECT phone or also the station? [12:24] <daja77> only the phone [12:25] <daja77> in fact it would disturb the net if you are operating the station [12:28] <blindcoder> okay [12:28] Action: blindcoder has no idea how DECT works, so please excuse stupid questions :) [12:28] <daja77> np [12:30] <esden> but somehow we have to charge our phones no? [12:31] <daja77> you could do that at poc iirc [12:31] <esden> hrm ... they have all kinds of docking stations? o_O [12:32] <esden> I can not believe that! [12:32] <daja77> you could take the station with you and ask them how to do that, without disturbing [12:32] <daja77> esden: they have all sorts of phones and dockingsations [12:32] <esden> ok ... that is a solution [12:32] <esden> asking them [12:32] <daja77> yep [12:33] <daja77> they had some guidelines i can't remember ;) [12:33] <esden> hehe ... ok ;) [12:33] <daja77> esden: mail your number to the list [12:33] <esden> I have already [12:33] <daja77> oh [12:33] <daja77> *reload* [12:34] <daja77> not in my inbox, perhaps spam filter delayed [12:34] <esden> ohh ... fuck [12:34] <esden> it is waiting for approval ... because I am registred at rocklinux with other email address [12:34] <esden> >_< [12:34] <daja77> ic [12:34] <daja77> don't worry did that myself a few times [12:36] <blindcoder> for some reason my apache isn't saving uploaded files to php... [12:36] <blindcoder> files uploaded through php [12:39] <esden> daja77: ok ... now is the mail sent with the right sender address [12:40] <daja77> can't wait for clifford's approval? ;) [12:40] <esden> I cancelled it... [12:40] <esden> and no ... I do not wait for clifford ... [12:41] <esden> he has already enough to do ;) [12:41] <daja77> *hehe* [12:41] <esden> he has fake at home ... ;) [12:41] <esden> you know? [12:41] <daja77> i know [12:47] <fake> let's hope the refbuild will get through today [12:47] Action: fake currently fixing stuff [12:48] <fake> oh great, and NOW i get tired. [12:50] <mnemoc> anybody knows how to get the first or the second half of a long on m68k? [12:51] <fake> uh [12:52] <daja77> the one error in my build is xim [12:52] <fake> xor with 1111111100000000 or 0000000011111111 ? ;)) [12:52] <daja77> exim [12:53] <fake> daja77: that's known [12:53] <fake> exim will be removed from the livecd [12:53] <fake> it needs any bdb [12:53] <daja77> any? [12:54] <fake> exim wants bdb - i wonder why one would need a mailserver on a desktop system. [12:54] <daja77> ok i better should not ask why [12:54] <fake> we could replace it by nullmailer [12:54] <fake> *with [12:54] <mnemoc> fake: that's dirty :) [12:54] <daja77> well live cds are used for ad-hoc servers too [12:55] <fake> daja77: not the one labeld 'desktop-oriented' ;P [12:55] <daja77> you mean a server live cd and a desktop live cd? [12:55] Action: mnemoc prefer to think rock builds as single-purpose distros [12:55] <blindcoder> man, ./scripts/Config on a 500 MHz machine sucks [12:55] <daja77> blindcoder: it sucks on faster machines too [12:56] <blindcoder> daja77: I just want to deactivate the LICQ plugins :/ [12:56] <blindcoder> but if I change it in config/default/config it gets overwritten again [12:56] <daja77> yep had to disable osd plugin in crystal [12:56] <fake> blindcoder: change it and run ./scripts/Config -cfg mycfg -oldconfig [12:57] <blindcoder> daja77: or enable xosd :) [12:57] <daja77> or that ... [12:57] <blindcoder> fake: great, now I'm done :/ [12:57] <fake> daja77: the package selection for livecd is not fixed - there will be a gnome version soon, it's too easy to alter it. [12:57] Action: daja77 points and laughs at blindcoder [12:58] <blindcoder> *snif* [12:58] <daja77> muhahaha the gnoppix project has already died ... [12:58] <blindcoder> well, who wants gnome, anyway? [12:58] Action: fake wants evolution [12:59] Action: daja77 using kmail [12:59] Action: blindcoder using mutt [12:59] <daja77> or kontact [12:59] <blindcoder> or mozilla [12:59] <blindcoder> mutt remote and mozilla local :) [13:01] <mnemoc> mutt remote, thunderbird local :) [13:01] <fake> i use kmail, too, but evolution is much more than just a MUA [13:01] <blindcoder> yeah, it's an MTA, too :) [13:01] <fake> kmail remote, kmail local ;) [13:02] <blindcoder> fake: so what do you use when you can't X-Forward from the remote machine? [13:02] <fake> it's the only organizer with a useful sync option to my cellphone. [13:02] <fake> blindcoder: i don't x-forwared [13:02] <blindcoder> so how do you use kmail remote? [13:02] <fake> blindcoder: i use NX [13:02] <daja77> fake: i want to sync kmail instances via imap [13:02] <blindcoder> NoeXecute? [13:02] <fake> daja77: don't use kmail, then ;)) [13:02] <fake> blindcoder: www.nomachine.com [13:03] <blindcoder> oh, a vnc-like thing? [13:03] <fake> it's *incredibly* fast [13:03] <fake> no, much, much better [13:03] <daja77> fake: erh why [13:03] <fake> daja77: oh, i misread that, i thought about ldap. imap and kmail is superb [13:04] <blindcoder> fake: does nx work through non-transparent proxies on windows? [13:05] <fake> blindcoder: i use openvpn anyways. i need SIP, and want fast access to my build machines [13:05] <blindcoder> fake: I'd like to see you set that up here @siemens :) [13:05] <fake> blindcoder: openvpn is very very good at drilling holes into proxies and stuff [13:06] <blindcoder> putty is, too :-) [13:06] <mnemoc> putty is a savor [13:06] <fake> but putty doesn't accept a default route set on it making you part of the internet again ;) [13:08] <mnemoc> saver* [13:08] <blindcoder> mnemoc: I only recently found out you can to transconnect-like connection with putty [13:09] <blindcoder> I always telnettet to the proxy and manually did a CONNECT :/ [13:09] <mnemoc> o_O [13:10] <blindcoder> yeah [13:16] <fake> esden: https://iso.rocklinux.de/default.php?dir=/unofficial/fake/crystal/ [13:16] <fake> crystal for ppc uploaded [13:16] Action: fake away for {g,f}ood [13:16] Action: daja77 getting hungry [13:18] Action: mnemoc needs {g,f}ood too [13:23] Action: netrunner just had sand whiches [13:23] <netrunner> :) [13:24] <th> fake: but nx still can't help me remote controlling customers on windows right? [13:26] <netrunner> th: nx can also compress the rdesktop protocol [13:27] <th> netrunner: i guess that is some sort of answer? [13:27] <th> does vnc use that protocol? [13:27] <netrunner> th: I never tried it, but you could use rdesktop in such a case [13:28] <netrunner> th: don't know. the remote desktop stuff of windows uses rdesktop [13:28] <mnemoc> rdp i much better than vnc, but only for windows :\ [13:28] <th> argh. that native remote-controlling stuff was terrible [13:28] <mnemoc> th: hi, when will you start your next reference? [13:28] <th> but perhaps it's with rdesktop client hmmm [13:28] <th> mnemoc: it's already running [13:28] <mnemoc> :( [13:29] <th> mnemoc: what's it? [13:29] <mnemoc> i wanted to ask you for updating openldap to 2.1.30 [13:29] <th> mnemoc: is it important to be on 2.0.4? [13:30] <mnemoc> 2.1.27 was never flagged as "really stable" [13:30] <th> mnemoc: currently the focus is on making the 2.0.4 ready [13:31] <th> mnemoc: i've no problem with delaying 2.0.4 a bit. ask blindy about details. he plan's doing some bianries for c3 [13:33] <mnemoc> fake is the one with 'issues' with openldap stability :) [13:34] <mnemoc> as far as i concern it can wait for 2.0.5 [13:50] <esden> finally my mail arrived at the ml ;) [14:00] <fake> mnemoc: i had extremely sleep-stealing experiences - once burnt, forever shy [14:01] <netrunner> hm, anybody experienced an build issue with xfig and xorg? [14:01] <mnemoc> so what do you think about having 2.1.27 on 2.0.4 instead of 2.1.30? [14:01] <netrunner> It tried to include X11/Xaw3d/XawInit.h, but I only had X11/Xaw/..., a link helped... [14:03] <fake> mnemoc: i don't care about stable ;) [14:03] <fake> i guess 2.1.30 is fine [14:04] <fake> https://iso.rocklinux.de/default.php?dir=/unofficial/fake/crystal/ [14:04] <fake> esden: see above [14:04] <fake> esden needs to be constantly pressurized... [14:06] Action: netrunner kicks esden on fakes command [14:06] <fake> install it! [14:06] <esden> :P [14:06] <fake> *speaksmagicwords* *brabbel* [14:07] <netrunner> fake: ugh, don't use that much sulfur next time! [14:07] <fake> some crow feet... [14:07] <fake> ... frog legs ... [14:07] <blindcoder> oh puh leez, noone uses frog legs these days [14:09] <fake> ... solaris for x86, windows NT for MIPS... [14:09] <fake> ... and a bit objective C++. [14:10] Action: netrunner barfs [14:10] <esden> ok .. fake ... as it seems I can test your crystal build [14:10] <blindcoder> hehe [14:10] <esden> I will install it on my ipod and boot from it .. [14:11] <esden> ;) [14:11] <fake> i guess that won't work due to missing sbp2 in-kernel module [14:11] <esden> your crystal install disk has to support firewire [14:11] <esden> fake: then you know what you have to do ;) [14:11] <fake> the livecd has support for firewire, but not the general bootdisk [14:11] <esden> that is not good ;) [14:11] <fake> esden: do you know how damn long it took to upload this 600 MB monster?? [14:12] <esden> *gnarf* no ;) [14:12] <fake> :P [14:13] <fake> gnomemeeting 1.2 is out!! wee! [14:13] <fake> Apple Rendezvous support [14:14] <blindcoder> I don't want a rendezvous with apple :P [14:14] <netrunner> fake: does h323 use less ports than sip? [14:14] <fake> netrunner: h323 is not comparable to SIP [14:15] <fake> sip is a Session Initiation Protocol, whereas h323 is exclusively a VoIP protocol [14:15] <fake> sip can use as many ports as you want sessions - and more ;) [14:16] <netrunner> fake: ok, I should specify - sip/rtp [14:16] <fake> i don't know much about h323 [14:17] <fake> i used it a long time ago and it was a pain to set up firewall-wise [14:17] <fake> SIP/rtp has support for proxies [14:17] <netrunner> fake: my point is - for rtp I had to open up >10k ports in my firewall, which I don't really like. [14:17] <fake> netrunner: you did something wrong. [14:17] <fake> netrunner: with good SIP softphones you can specify the range of ports on which rtp should be signalled [14:18] <netrunner> fake: no. rtp uses a random port in the range 10000:20000 [14:18] <fake> netrunner: no! [14:19] <fake> netrunner: the port used for rtp can be transmitted in the SIP Invite message! [14:19] <netrunner> fake: I have my knowledge from https://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+firewall+rules [14:19] <fake> netrunner: openh323 was th random port thing [14:19] <fake> hey - that's asterisk, not a softphone [14:20] <netrunner> I have to connect to some server, no? :) [14:20] <netrunner> my asterisk has these ports open. and they are for rtp. and I dislike this. [14:21] <fake> i don't quite understand why this should be needed for plain SIP [14:21] <fake> sip listens on port 5060 for incoming connections [14:21] <fake> and then manages the rest [14:21] <fake> some rtp ports should be availible, but that's configurable [14:22] <fake> you should try SER or siproxyd if you want a more SIP-centric solution... [14:22] <fake> at least siproxyd (or something like that) has those options, it's meant for dial-up-line users [14:22] <netrunner> fake: sip builds up the connection, yes. but then rtp is used for voice transmitting [14:23] <fake> netrunner: if you have the time, sniff some messages of SIP Invite and look at the content [14:23] <netrunner> oh well, I won't do this now. but maybe I can at least call out from 21c3 :) [14:23] <fake> netrunner: there the ports used are specified, or can be at least [14:24] <fake> yeah, let's do some playing around with sip there [14:24] <fake> sip <-> dect gateway ;) [14:25] <fake> uuuh [14:25] <fake> i just found a bug in fi;e [14:25] <fake> file [14:26] <fake> echo "1280x854" > tmp && file tmp [14:33] <th> tmp: ASCII text [14:33] <esden> Piotr-Esden-Tempskis-Computer:~ esdentem$ echo "1280x854" > tmp && file tmp [14:33] <esden> tmp: ASCII text [14:33] <esden> Piotr-Esden-Tempskis-Computer:~ esdentem$ [14:34] <fake> hm... [14:35] <fake> root@jana:~# echo "1280x854" > tmp && file tmp [14:35] <fake> Segmentation fault (core dumped) [14:35] <fake> root@jana:~# file core [14:35] <fake> core: ELF 32-bit LSB core file Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), SVR4-style, SVR4-style, from 'file' [14:35] <fake> file-4.11 [14:35] <fake> your file versions, please [14:36] <th> file-4.07 [14:37] <esden> file-4.02 <- that is ooold o_O [14:38] <th> 2.0.4 will have 4.12 [14:40] <th> no problem with 4.03 either [14:43] <fake> hmm... [14:44] <fake> yes, it's fixed in 4.12 it seems [14:45] <SMP> eh, folks [14:45] <th> hi SMP [14:46] <SMP> I use in- and outbound calling via SIP from behind a packetflter that has absolutely _no_ open ports [14:46] <fake> inbound without open ports? magic? ;-) [14:46] <SMP> the magic things to configure are: symmetric RTP (if using UDP) and symmetric media [14:47] <fake> i knew it - magic. how does it work? [14:48] <th> no frog legs please. [14:49] <SMP> this way the SIP communication between the client and proxy will use source (and destination of course) port 5060 on both sides [14:49] <SMP> the packetfilter has to do "stateful" UDP filtering of course [14:52] <fake> aaah... [14:52] <SMP> for RTP a single pair of ports is chosen as well. to e.g. party A sends its RTP from port 2000 to port 3000 at party B, and party B sends from port 3000 to port 2000 at party A [14:53] <SMP> this works even if both parties are behind a stateful filter [14:54] <SMP> because both open up the port for the other party from behind the filter [14:54] <fake> i c [14:54] <fake> btw, have you settled for any softphone yet? [14:54] <SMP> they all suck ... [14:55] <th> as all mail clients do [14:55] <SMP> kphone at least does symm. signalling and symm. media [14:56] <fake> but it crashes (at leas for me) if you call kphone <-> kphone [14:56] <fake> and on many other occasions [14:57] <SMP> though 4.1.0 doesn't answer keepalive packets for SIP anymore [14:57] <SMP> didn't find anything in the diff, yet, though .. [14:57] <fake> pestilence or cholera ;) [14:58] <SMP> kphone crashes on some occasions, but it worked for the calling so far .. [14:58] <SMP> I'm kind of pondering writing my own softphone at the moment ... [14:59] <fake> binary-only free softphone is not an option for you, i guess? [14:59] <esden> ROFL ... the svd monitor first shows [battery full] when connected to the power supply ... and some seconds later it switches off thinking that the battery is empty ... [14:59] <esden> stupit programming mistake [14:59] <SMP> using gst-sharp, the gstreamer bindings for the CLR platform [14:59] <esden> *stupid [15:00] <fake> SMP: i almost wanted to offer my help... ;-) [15:00] <SMP> fake: I tried one closed-source, but even that didn't really work [15:01] <SMP> Gnomemeeting will have SIP support for the next major release past 1.2 [15:02] <SMP> I'm eager to see how good that will be! [15:02] <fake> SMP: i use sjphone pretty often [15:02] <SMP> does it do symmetric signalling and symmetric media? [15:02] <fake> i thought about using h323 lan-internally, and asterisk iax externally [15:03] <fake> SMP: i haven't noticed these options, but they may be there, it's very configurable compared to other closed-source phones [15:03] <SMP> I think I tried it once [15:04] <SMP> most of that software is absolutely ridiculous [15:04] <SMP> there is no excuse for not providing a good GUI to chose the audio input and output devices, e.g. [15:05] <SMP> and I *don't* mean "type in /dev/foobar here"! [15:07] <fake> hm... if they don't support alsa, there's not much they can show you 8) [15:11] <SMP> /dev/dsp must die [15:12] <fake> hw:default [15:12] <fake> hw:0,0 [15:12] <fake> i mean [15:13] Action: daja77 acks SMP [15:13] <daja77> and artsd must also die [15:13] <SMP> yes! [15:13] <fake> artsd is always replaced by /bin/true here ;) [15:15] <SMP> though it's kind of "it just works" if one only has one sound device and only uses software that supports artsd (i.e. KDE) [15:16] <daja77> apart from krec ... [15:16] <SMP> uhh, krec is evil [15:17] <daja77> *nod* [15:18] <fake> *nodnod* [15:21] <SMP> so, should one use a sound server (which one?) just for the local host? or use ALSA directly with dmix? [15:22] <fake> JACK is overkill, i guess [15:23] Action: fake uses ALSA + dmix [15:24] <SMP> does dmix also enable multiple concurrent use of /dev/dsp [15:24] <SMP> ? [15:24] <th> SMP: i once told you about [15:24] <SMP> I know, but I don't remember ;) [15:24] <fake> i don't know, my apps use alsa [15:25] <fake> despite kphone, until now, and it's the *only* one [15:25] <netrunner> how do I tell xfig not to make the figure 18km wide? [15:25] <th> SMP: i managed to let two apps use the same oss-emu-device simultanisously [15:30] madtux (~mike@200.91.101.98) joined #rocklinux. [15:30] <madtux> hi. [15:30] <owl> hi madtux [15:30] <madtux> hi owl. [15:31] <owl> how are you? [15:31] <madtux> good, and you? [15:32] <owl> alive and annoyed. thx [15:32] <madtux> ssdd huh? :) [15:32] mnemoc (~amery@200.75.27.31) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:33] <owl> madtux: hm? [15:34] mnemoc (~amery@200.75.27.29) joined #rocklinux. [16:13] treo (~xfman@D9959.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [16:13] <treo> sali [16:50] steffen_ (~steffen@fortuna7.bingo-ev.de) joined #rocklinux. [17:04] <esden> hi madtux ! [17:04] <esden> *kuddle* [17:04] <esden> ;) [17:04] <madtux> hallo esden [17:05] <daja77> esden betrays me ... [17:06] <esden> daja77: NO! *EG* [17:06] <daja77> *gg* [17:06] <esden> muahaha ... I am evil! muahaha [17:06] <esden> ;) [17:06] <daja77> i know [17:06] <esden> humm ... someone sabotaged my coffee ... I feel so strange ... [17:06] <esden> *blurp* [17:07] Action: daja77 hides [17:07] <esden> hrm [17:14] Nick change: BoS -> BoS^afk [17:21] <netrunner> hm, seems clifford started a commit round :) [17:21] <madtux> :) [17:26] steffen_ (~steffen@fortuna7.bingo-ev.de) left irc: "Verlassend" [17:36] <kasc> moin [18:34] <madtux> hello kasc [18:35] <esden> weee ... some more pictures of my other project ;) [18:35] <esden> https://www.esden.net/bilder/thc_rot/ [18:35] <madtux> show me show me [18:38] <esden> aaand? ;) [18:38] <madtux> nice. [18:39] <madtux> having fun ? :) [18:39] <esden> lol ... you do not dare asking what it is ... or you can imagine? [18:39] <madtux> i'm not done looking at the pics [18:39] <esden> hehe ... ok ;) [18:42] <madtux> ok.. [18:42] <madtux> WTF are u doing? [18:44] <esden> hehe ... ;) [18:44] <esden> you really can not imagine what it will be? [18:44] Action: fake stealing the idea and producing 1000 pcs. [18:45] <esden> rofl [18:45] <esden> fake: and you think you will earn money with that? [18:46] <fake> well... if i only could think of some *useful* task it could fulfill... ;)) [18:47] <esden> hehe ;) [18:47] <esden> think fake think! [18:47] <fake> it can blink... and... spin.. hmm.... [18:47] <esden> yes ... [18:52] <fake> i have no idea. [18:53] <esden> goood ... .oO(PUHHH) [18:54] <blindcoder> a brainfuck output module? [18:55] <blindcoder> that hypnotises you? [18:55] <fake> reprogramms your brain to fuck ? [18:55] Action: fake *giggles* [18:55] <esden> that fucks your barin... [18:56] <esden> urm ... ups [18:56] <esden> ;) [18:56] <esden> fake ... you were too fast ;) [18:57] <blindcoder> well, I think esden will show me on friday :D [18:57] <esden> *GG* [18:57] <esden> I hope it will be ready till then ;) [18:57] <esden> but I think so [18:58] <esden> the programming will be missing though [18:58] <blindcoder> esden: did you register it with your "Fluggesellschaft"? [18:58] <esden> that is what has to be done on ccc [18:58] <esden> o_O? [18:58] <blindcoder> *sigh* I take that as a no [18:58] <esden> what do you mean? [18:58] <blindcoder> can I call you? that's easier :) [18:59] <esden> ack [18:59] <esden> my skype is on [18:59] <esden> ;) [19:01] Action: fake thinks of the nirvana song 'rape me' refactored as an advertisment jingle for skype... [19:05] <daja77> hehe [19:05] <daja77> we should package skype [19:05] <fake> daja77: read the license? [19:06] <daja77> yes and the linux faq ... [19:06] <daja77> i could mail them [19:17] <daja77> *flood* [19:17] <daja77> Can I redistribute Skype for Linux? [19:17] <daja77> Yes, you can. For the fine print, read the EULA. In short, please link back to Skype servers for the actual file download (automatic downloading is OK), notify distribution@skype.net about your intentions, and make the Skype EULA terms clear to your users. [19:20] <fake> they want to track downloads / user [19:21] <daja77> hm that contardicts to redistribution ... [19:22] <fake> link back to skype for the 'actual' file download [19:22] <daja77> [ ] they know how redistribution works [19:30] <blindcoder> anyone with access to iso.rocklinux.de here? (putting up an iso?) [19:31] <th> ack [19:31] <blindcoder> great :-) [19:31] <esden> that is what you call a phone call ;) [19:31] <esden> @ blindcoder ;) [19:32] <blindcoder> esden: skype has no benefit for me. no microphone :P [19:32] <esden> blindcoder: then buy a headset! [19:32] <esden> they are really not so expensive [19:32] <esden> at least when you take a wired one [19:33] <blindcoder> maybe during C3. still have a 20 EUR Saturn (gutschein) [19:33] <esden> and bluetooth costs ca 40Eur and I think that is payable [19:34] <blindcoder> yeah [19:38] <th> i prefer these with integrated dsp that connect to USB [19:38] Action: daja77 hopes that the rock linux themed live cd finishes today [19:39] <blindcoder> th: any recommendations? [19:39] <th> blindcoder: yes [19:39] <th> blindcoder: second [19:39] <blindcoder> you have two :) [19:39] <th> plantronics DSP stuff [19:39] <th> DSP-100 to be exact [19:40] <blindcoder> cost? [19:41] <th> just another second [19:43] <th> https://www3.alternate.de/html/shop/productDetails.html?artno=KH%23P10& [19:43] <daja77> fake: ? [19:44] <th> 59EUR including VAT is not very cheap. i think i got it for a bit less [19:44] <blindcoder> hrm [19:44] <th> but it works [19:44] <th> it's devmeeting approved. [19:44] <blindcoder> normal_price = alternate_price / 130 * 100 [19:47] <th> i could bring some to the congress for 55EUR [19:48] <th> if it's a bit more than one. [19:49] <blindcoder> send a mail to the list [19:49] <blindcoder> I want one for sure :) [19:49] <th> blindcoder: find two others and we could do that [19:50] <blindcoder> ask the list :) [19:50] <th> i would feel like a salesman [19:50] <th> blindcoder: but you have my approval for telling the list about it. [19:51] <esden> wuarrrrgh ... that are many glibc patches! [19:51] <blindcoder> thanks :) [19:51] <th> hehe ;) [19:55] <esden> we are collecting patches ... so we get the record of the most patched distribution build kit? o_O [19:55] Action: esden got overrolled with the amount of patches ;) [20:01] <daja77> is someone sending this upstream? [20:06] <daja77> why is build-target running config endlessly, i just changed one .conf file ... [20:32] <netrunner> daja77: well, put a break; in your while(1) { } [20:34] <SMP> <daja77> we should package skype [20:34] <SMP> no, we shouldn't [20:34] Action: netrunner agrees to SMP [20:34] <daja77> SMP: yep i've seen that [20:34] <owl> https://www.franklin.com/estore/category.aspx?group_id=1&nettrackerid=mmc1&cat_id=1&page_type=handhelds <- without any comments O_o [20:34] Action: netrunner holds up a sign "fight the proprietary protocols" [20:36] <blindcoder> owl: nice [20:37] <owl> blindcoder: *lol* completly [20:37] <blindcoder> owl: no really [20:37] <owl> well. might i should buy some of those devices, and sell them to "bibeltreue christen" with 20 % provision [20:38] <blindcoder> PBC, heh [20:38] <blindcoder> also known as legal terrorists :) [20:38] <owl> ack ;) [20:50] <SMP> Cksum ERROR: download/mirror/w/wesnoth-0.8.4.tar.gz.cksum-err (2248107671) [20:51] <SMP> grrr [20:56] <blindcoder> guess it's time to send the update to latest version :) [20:59] <daja77> == 12/13/04 21:00:28 =[5]=> Finished building package rock-theme. [21:03] <blindcoder> SMP: downloading from original site? [21:07] <SMP> yes [21:07] Action: SMP never uses mirrors [21:08] <blindcoder> hmm, they had problems with their server recently + the release monkey changed. [21:08] <blindcoder> guess I'll just send an update to 0.8.8 [21:10] <daja77> *sigh* of course kdelibs and kdebase needs security patches ... [21:17] <fake> daja77: i'm at it [21:17] <daja77> me too ;) [21:42] praenti_ (~praenti@mail.obster.org) joined #rocklinux. [21:42] praenti (~praenti@mail.obster.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:44] madtux (~mike@200.91.101.98) left irc: "leaving" [21:57] madtux (~mike@200.91.101.98) joined #rocklinux. [21:59] praenti_ (~praenti@mail.obster.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:59] praenti (~praenti@mail.obster.org) joined #rocklinux. [22:18] treo (~xfman@D9959.d.pppool.de) left irc: "cya@all" [23:33] <esden> puhh ... that was a chat marathon .... >_< [23:33] <owl> gn8 [23:34] <esden> n8 owl [23:35] <daja77> chat marathon? [23:39] <esden> yes ... I started icq ... for the first time in months [23:39] <esden> and I have been swamped with messages ;) [23:39] <esden> I think I should do it on purpose ;) [23:40] <esden> at least then people pay attention that someone is there ;) [23:42] <daja77> hehe be lucky i did not call you via skype [23:57] <daja77> n8 [23:59] <esden> lol ... daja77 ... thank you veeeery much ;) [23:59] <esden> n8 [23:59] esden (~esden@p508040B5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: [00:00] --- Tue Dec 14 2004