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[00:35] <daja77> can someone ack that cdrtools fails to build with 2.6.9 headers?
[00:35] <daja77> it actually does not fail with an error but all the binaries fail to build
[00:35] <mnemoc> 2.6.9 headers are a pain
[00:35] <daja77> *nod*
[00:36] <daja77> this not breaking the build is a pain too
[00:37] <daja77> i cannot create a livecd because mkisofs (cdrtools) is missing in crystal
[00:41] <mnemoc> brb
[00:46] <esden> ok ... first draft hp for thc made 
[00:46] <esden> https://www.esden.net/thc/
[00:48] <daja77> esden!
[00:49] <esden> daja77: ???
[00:50] <daja77> just happy
[00:50] <owl> https://www.deguspecial.de/Degufotos/page2/kuss.JPG <-- aren't they sweet?
[00:51] <daja77> https://spreeblick.de/wp/index.php?p=324
[00:51] <daja77> ups
[00:51] <esden> uhhmmm ... yes for sure ... in caramel souce ... good grilled ;)
[00:51] <owl> esden: *kick* *kick* *kick* wrong answer ;) 
[00:51] <esden> whaaaaaaat!
[00:52] <owl> and: guess they would be a bit too hairy 
[00:52] <esden> they are very tasty ... I am sure ... should I proove that to you?
[00:52] <owl> nope. *sniff* :( poor degus :(((
[00:53] <owl> or should i say "evil esden"?
[00:53] <daja77> .oO (guinea pigs with elephant ears)
[00:53] <esden> ohh ... degus ... sounds nearly like degust ... may I degust him?
[00:53] <owl> *g* not really, daja77 
[00:55] <owl> esden: no, you're not allowed to degust them :/ .oO( why are men always so evil and want to eat innocent sweet pets? )
[00:55] <daja77> esden: it is circuit not Cirquit ...
[00:55] <esden> uuups ... 
[00:55] <esden> it is only a draft
[00:55] <esden> it may contain mistakes
[00:56] <esden> ;)
[00:56] <daja77> i was just pointing at one ;)
[00:56] <esden> hrm >_<
[00:56] <daja77> you want to build and sell these?
[00:56] <daja77> with what games on?
[00:56] <owl> https://www.kuka.com/germany/de/company/career/job_offers/UK_ITSystemadministratorKUKAIndustrietechnik.htm << ouch. sure - you need MS-office knowledge if you're a unix-admin... *headshake*
[00:58] <owl> anyway. have to sleep now... (and i'm really hoping to be able to sleep... and: please wisch me luck that i 'll hear the alarm-clocks tomorrow...)
[00:58] <owl> gn8. bye
[00:58] <esden> I do not want to earn money with that
[00:59] <esden> I only think that it is a nice idea
[00:59] <esden> a natural further step in the blinken lights - blinken led - blinken arcade saga ;)
[01:05] <esden> daja77: corrected a bit ...
[01:05] <esden> but I am no more at the highest performance ... and do not see mistakes ...
[01:06] <esden> daja77: all games you write for it ;)
[01:06] <esden> all specification is open ... so everyone can write games for that device
[01:06] <daja77> so running linux games would be ok?
[01:07] <esden> with minimal cost ... (the most expensive part currently is the bluetooth module but that will also change in the next months)
[01:07] <esden> daja77: you can not run linux on that
[01:07] <esden> it is a microcontroller not an embedded cpu with boundless performance
[01:07] <esden> there is no mmu ... there is no fpu
[01:08] <esden> there is only assembler for linux and commercial c and c++ compilers (M16C)
[01:08] <esden> but gcc is there for M32C
[01:09] <esden> but that one is double as expensive as the first one
[01:11] <esden> at least afaik
[01:11] <esden> so it depends on how much you want to pay you have a development environment for linux that is full blown or not
[01:11] <esden> the software has to run on both ... and the games too
[01:12] <esden> but I know that it is doable ... I tested that already
[01:15] <daja77> i really have no time to write assembler games
[01:19] <esden> daja77:  you do not have to
[01:19] <daja77> i know
[01:19] <esden> you also can write in c ... or c++ 
[01:19] <esden> you only need the M32C
[01:19] <esden> or run in emulated environment
[01:19] <esden> what is also intended
[01:26] <daja77> esden: really cool project, guess i am already involved in too many other projects ;)
[01:27] <esden> hehe ... that is enough ... that you say that it is a cool project
[01:27] <daja77> ;)
[01:28] <esden> that makes me confident that I will find people that not only think that the project is cool but also want to help ;)
[01:28] <daja77> sure
[01:28] <esden> I know that you have a lot to do.
[01:28] <esden> but there are lots of other people having nothing to do ;)
[01:28] <esden> don't you think?
[01:28] <daja77> lots of them
[01:29] <esden> we will see we will se how it will evolve
[01:29] Action: daja77 got a job offer the support linux migration for small businesses
[01:29] <daja77> today* 
[01:29] <esden> sounds interesting
[01:29] <daja77> hiwi job while writing diploma
[01:30] <daja77> and btw i really liked that one today https://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~jahre/pearl-no-space-left.png
[01:33] <esden> the article about jamba is veeeery nice ;)
[01:33] <daja77> yep :) like that
[01:33] <esden> they seem not to have enaugh money to buy a harddisk ;)
[01:34] <esden> ok ... now I go home
[01:34] <esden> I really need sleep
[01:34] <daja77> you should s/cirquit/circiut on that page ;)
[01:34] <daja77> cu esden 
[01:34] <daja77> i should sleep too
[01:34] <esden> I have ...
[01:34] <daja77> there is one missing 
[01:34] <esden> o_O
[01:34] <daja77> fix it tomorrow
[01:34] <daja77> ;)
[01:34] <esden> realy?
[01:34] <esden> ok
[01:34] <esden> cu 
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[08:40] <blindcoder> moin
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[10:32] <netrunner> moin
[10:59] <th> moin
[11:00] <blindcoder> moin netrunner, th
[11:02] <th> 2192 builds total, 1744 completed fine, 0 with errors.
[11:02] <blindcoder> sweet
[11:06] <th> blindcoder: oh. svn info does not report the newest revision of the whole tree. just of the given directory
[11:06] <th> (or the cwd)
[11:09] <th> svn log |head -n 2 should give the most recent revision
[11:10] <blindcoder> th: well, clifford builds in his sm tree where svn info doesn't give anything :)
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[11:29] <hannes_> hi
[11:29] Action: netrunner fighting against tetex
[11:30] <owl> moin
[11:30] <hannes_> hi owl 
[11:30] <owl> hi hannes_ 
[11:31] Action: daja77 fighting with crystal that cannot deal with postscript files
[11:47] <th> blindcoder: are you doing mass-production for c3?
[12:06] <blindcoder> th: as soon as 2.0.4 is here
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[12:53] <netrunner> hey, my xmms and mplayer fail with some problem in the 26 kernel headers, wasn't there some discussion about a fix?
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[13:21] <daja77> clifford: ?
[13:22] <netrunner> daja77: yes, looks like :)
[13:23] <daja77> looks like a forgotten shell script ;) 
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[15:35] <madtux> hello
[15:35] <daja77> hi madtux 
[15:36] <madtux> hi daniel :)
[15:41] <netrunner> thx madtux :)
[15:42] <madtux> netrunner: you are welcome. :)
[15:44] <blindcoder> moin madtux 
[15:45] <blindcoder> madtux: almost deleted your mail as my in-brain-check-by-subject-spamfilter kicked in :/
[15:45] <blindcoder> then I saw the sender :-)
[15:45] <madtux> blindcoder: hehe
[15:45] <madtux> yeah.. i guess u don't get emails from em very often :)
[15:46] <madtux> me*
[15:47] <mnemoc> madtux is a known spammer :)
[15:47] <madtux> i know
[15:49] <mnemoc> =)
[16:06] <blindcoder> madtux: nah it's just a common phrase and a big attachment...
[16:08] <madtux> :P
[16:08] <madtux> yeah that too
[16:19] <fake> moin
[16:20] <madtux> lo fake
[16:22] <fake> madtux: thank's for your card!
[16:24] <madtux> fake: np.
[17:02] <blindcoder> back
[17:02] <madtux> wb
[17:07] <blindcoder> my shinai will arrive in a few days *happy*
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[17:17] <netrunner> blindcoder: yeah, got the same with that mail ;)
[17:19] <blindcoder> netrunner: you got my shinai with your mail? How's that work :(
[17:19] <blindcoder> :)
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[18:38] <daja77> fake: ?
[18:42] <fake> daja77: here
[18:43] <daja77> i tried to boot the livcd in qemu
[18:43] <daja77> booting is fine
[18:44] <fake> but?
[18:44] <daja77> but kde does not startup due sound problems? have you experienced that too?
[18:44] <fake> daja77: huh?
[18:44] <fake> daja77: no, but it may well be it's qemu 0.6.1 related, i still use 0.6.0
[18:44] <fake> daja77: try disabling the sound
[18:45] <fake> sound problems shouldn't keep kde from starting, anyways
[18:45] <daja77> *nod*
[18:46] <daja77> it did thet with and without -enable-audio
[18:48] <daja77> i consider this as a kde bug
[18:53] <fake> daja77: that's strange. can you try it on a real machine?
[18:53] <daja77> will do that, have no other choice i think
[18:53] <daja77> but first preparing new kernel patch ...
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[19:10] <treo> hi
[19:14] Action: fake -> luga
[19:14] <daja77> hf
[19:23] <netrunner> lotto: 6 13 19 34 45 48  zz 5 sz 9 
[19:23] <netrunner> :(
[19:24] <th> for tomorrow?
[19:28] <daja77> ouch
[19:29] <daja77> linux26-src package contains teh kernel and the modules ...
[19:29] <mnemoc> uhm?
[19:30] <daja77> emerging the package reports shared files conflicts with linux26 package 
[19:30] <daja77> and mine -r really tries to delete all what's in linux26 too
[19:33] <netrunner> daja77: that's more an emerge problem imho
[19:34] <daja77> ermerge-pkg call build-pkg
[19:34] <netrunner> daja77: I bet you also got a new kernel.
[19:34] <daja77> so there is something severly broken
[19:34] <daja77> have to figure out what
[19:34] <netrunner> daja77: yes. and how does it split? it builds everything and then splits the flists, no?
[19:37] <netrunner> hm, no.
[19:38] <daja77> i do not talk about dev and doc packages
[19:44] <netrunner> ah right.
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[19:56] <esden> hi ho everyone
[19:56] <blindcoder> moin esden 
[19:56] <blindcoder> how it your rotating, blinking vibrator?
[19:56] <esden> I hate to move ... have I said that already?
[19:56] <esden> lol ... fine thanks
[19:56] <esden> I had no time to take care of it today
[19:57] <blindcoder> :(
[19:57] <esden> I had to pack up my cell at once ... because tomorrow they start to renew the elevator in my former home ... >_<
[19:57] <esden> so I have to move everything _today_
[19:57] <blindcoder> damn
[19:58] <esden> now I am at the company ... and waiting for my pizza
[19:58] <esden> afterwords I have to drive back for another moving round >_<
[20:02] <blindcoder> what was that what you wanted me to install?
[20:03] <blindcoder> esden: ?
[20:03] <esden> erm ...
[20:03] <esden> skype
[20:03] <blindcoder> ah yes
[20:04] <blindcoder> downloading...
[20:04] <blindcoder> 51 kB/s... *falling asleep*
[20:08] <blindcoder> esden: okay, up and running
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[20:08] <esden> good ;)
[20:08] <esden> hi tcr 
[20:08] <esden> my nick is esdentem
[20:09] <blindcoder> already sent request :)
[20:09] <blindcoder> now opening port...
[20:09] <blindcoder> done
[20:13] <esden> ?? nothing here ...
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[22:36] <|treo|> gn8
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[22:38] <praenti> hi
[22:38] <praenti> fake: are you here at the moment?
[22:39] Action: madtux greets praenti 
[22:39] <praenti> fake: have some internal compiler errors with gcc3.2.x in my stable build
[22:40] <praenti> have canceled this. can you try a build if you have enough time and compile time?
[22:40] <daja77> on which packages?
[22:41] <praenti> linux24-benh
[22:41] <praenti> ali-ircc.c: In function `ali_ircc_sir_write_wakeup':
[22:41] <praenti> ali-ircc.c:931: Internal compiler error in finish_spills, at reload1.c:3720
[22:41] <praenti> Please submit a full bug report,
[22:41] <praenti> with preprocessed source if appropriate.
[22:41] <praenti> See <URL:https://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html> for instructions.
[22:42] <praenti> had this problems also with a drock build from rxr
[22:43] <praenti> after using a minimal build from fake with a more modern gcc version 3.4.x this problems are mostly gone
[22:44] <praenti> the strange on these problems is, that they come as i can see a little bit randomly
[22:44] <praenti> daja77: i hope you got an impression
[22:46] <daja77> well normally i's suspect hw, but if 3.4.x works it might be a compiler bug, that is now fixed ...
[22:47] <praenti> daja77: the hw suspicion is not as bad. i saw a lot of reports which happens mostly on iBook G4
[22:48] <praenti> daja77: looks like something is not working together correctly. and my iBook has no data corruption or calculating problem
[22:48] <praenti> daja77: so the hw works correct as i can see (especially under macos x)
[22:50] <praenti> but we are not compiler/hw specialists ;-)
[22:50] <netrunner> oh, it wasn't coca cola? https://www.snopes.com/cokelore/santa.asp
[22:52] <praenti> netrunner: yes. saw this yesterday in galileo, also
[22:52] <praenti> netrunner: cocacola has only made him famous
[22:54] <praenti> i will go to bed. gn8
[22:54] <netrunner> n8 praenti
[22:54] Action: praenti away
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