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[00:25] <daja77> fake: ? [01:27] Mestapheles (~Captain@d142-59-231-163.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:36] Mestapheles (~Captain@d142-59-231-163.abhsia.telus.net) joined #rocklinux. [02:10] mnemoc_ (~amery@200.75.27.42) joined #rocklinux. [02:20] mnemoc (~amery@200.75.27.55) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:20] Nick change: mnemoc_ -> mnemoc [03:13] <fake> daja77: ? [04:01] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-094-051.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:01] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-102-194.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [04:10] ojh (~omer@209-181-58-184.eugn.qwest.net) joined #rocklinux. [05:39] <ojh> Hello? Any elae on? [05:40] <ojh> else [05:40] <ojh> Anyone else on? [05:48] ojh (~omer@209-181-58-184.eugn.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:00] ojh (~omer@209-181-58-184.eugn.qwest.net) joined #rocklinux. [06:01] praenti (~praenti@mail.obster.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:01] <ojh> Hello? [06:01] praenti (~praenti@mail.obster.org) joined #rocklinux. [06:20] ojh (~omer@209-181-58-184.eugn.qwest.net) left #rocklinux. [06:23] fake (~fake@rapidnetworks.de) got netsplit. [06:23] fake (~fake@rapidnetworks.de) returned to #rocklinux. [06:35] ojh (~omer@209-181-58-184.eugn.qwest.net) joined #rocklinux. [06:42] ojh (~omer@209-181-58-184.eugn.qwest.net) left #rocklinux. [06:52] Mestapheles (~Captain@d142-59-231-163.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: "Leaving" [07:07] ojh (~omer@209-181-58-184.eugn.qwest.net) joined #rocklinux. [07:07] ojh (~omer@209-181-58-184.eugn.qwest.net) left #rocklinux. [08:14] <blindcoder> moin [08:23] netrunner (~andreas@pD9E8E0C1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:34] netrunner (~andreas@pD9E8DF25.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [09:10] <th> 2192 builds total, 2192 completed fine, 0 with errors. [09:12] <blindcoder> sweet [09:51] <fake> th: woot! [10:08] <daja77> moin [10:19] <th> so it's time for the last changes to the pkgsels [10:20] <daja77> fake: on real error i saw the error better, it is no kde bug, it is a permission problem, rockplug was unable to load modules, and kde unable to write to any device ... [10:30] <owl> moin. *yaaaaaawn* [10:30] <daja77> on real hw i meant [11:02] <th> argl. is that Create-ErrList script broken? [11:02] <th> there are two errors [11:20] <th> hmmm stage5 errors due to build order. went ok in stage9 [11:20] <th> but this should be listet by the script [11:20] <th> damn it [11:21] <netrunner> daja77: the rock-theme thing is exactly unfeatured yet? or do I simply not see it? [11:23] <netrunner> ah ok, I was to fast [11:24] <netrunner> daja77: may I suggest seperating this into the packages you want to theme and using pkg_foo_post.conf? [11:25] <netrunner> daja77: the current way will fail if there is no kde but theming enabled. and it would make the package itself superfluous. [11:25] <netrunner> daja77: and you could alter installed files from the to-be-themed package without getting shared files. [12:37] <daja77> netrunner: i could simply add a check if kdebas eis checked [12:38] <blindcoder> daja77: I think pkg_foo_post is better here [12:38] <blindcoder> because then the files belong to kde and not to themese [12:38] <daja77> the advantage is you can add/remove themeing with mine,, without recompiling anything [12:39] <blindcoder> daja77: those are really just background images/cursor images/whatever, aren't they? [12:39] <daja77> what else? [12:40] <blindcoder> daja77: that's why I'm asking :) [12:40] <blindcoder> daja77: OTOH, having them in a separate package makes it easy to update [12:41] <daja77> OTOH? [12:41] <daja77> yes all theme stuff in one place [12:41] <daja77> and at least for kde it does not produce shared files [12:42] <blindcoder> OTOH: On The O{ne,ther} Hand [12:42] <daja77> oh :) [12:43] <daja77> i will add config options to select a pic of your woen for themeing as well [12:47] <netrunner> daja77: think of packages you can brand only by supplying build time options. [12:48] <daja77> which? [12:48] <netrunner> or e.g. package/x11/mozilla/home-bookmarks.patch should also get into the branding thing. [12:48] <daja77> firefox should be patched not to link to redhat ... [12:49] <netrunner> yes and so on. but if you do this from the package, you get shared files because you touch mozilla's files [12:49] <daja77> rock-theme is desktop branding, not everything else ... [12:50] <daja77> it is ugly to put that in kdebase, because it is not really needed there [12:50] <daja77> and that kind of branding needs to be simplified, to produce branded livecds easily [12:50] <daja77> e.g. [12:52] <netrunner> daja77: yes. base/rock-theme/pkg_kde3-base_post.conf [12:53] <netrunner> daja77: there you do a check if branding is enabled. [12:53] <daja77> ah ok [12:53] <netrunner> daja77: it get's integrated into the kde package [12:53] <blindcoder> netrunner: the pkg_foo_post files are only included if the package they reside in is active [12:54] <blindcoder> so if rock-theme is disabled rock-theme/pkg_kde3-base_post.conf won't be included [12:54] <blindcoder> you don't need a check in that [12:54] <netrunner> blindcoder: fine :) no check neccessary :) [12:54] <daja77> that's why i wrote initial version ... [12:55] <blindcoder> daja77: hey, noones is saying that it sucks. it's great work and we're offering possible further improvements [12:55] <daja77> yes [12:55] <daja77> i was hoping for that [12:55] <netrunner> btw, has anybody ever managed to do the bootsplash thing? [12:56] <blindcoder> not really tried... [12:56] <netrunner> I only got it built and added, but never saw it in the end. [12:57] <daja77> if we get livecd fixed, we could try it with that [13:01] <daja77> off to university, hope fake will be online soon [13:01] <netrunner> what's broken with the livecd? [13:02] <daja77> access to kernel modules is read/write protected, some devices are write protected too, leading kde to crahs [13:04] <netrunner> ah. [13:04] Action: netrunner -> meeting [13:06] <blindcoder> kde crashes if it can't _write_ to the kernel modules o_O [13:31] <fake> daja77: that's weird [13:32] <fake> daja77: why can't it write to the devices? that drivers fail to load should not be the root of the problem [13:56] <daja77> fake: can i upload that image to a machine near you? [13:59] <daja77> blindcoder: no because it can't write to ttys etc. [14:04] <blindcoder> daja77: ah, okay *phew* [14:06] <fake> daja77: is devfs mounted? [14:07] <daja77> dunno [14:07] <fake> daja77: boot with 'livecd dodebug=1' [14:07] <daja77> ok [14:08] <daja77> damn, brb, rebooting [14:26] <daja77> back [14:29] <daja77> fake: yes devfs is mounted [14:29] <daja77> the error was /tmt/.ICExxx could not be created, you need to be root to do this [14:30] <mnemoc> moin! [14:30] <daja77> i'd have connected from livecd but /etc is readonly :/ [14:30] <daja77> hi mnemoc [14:38] <fake> daja77: etc should not be readonly - there are just symlinks... [14:38] <fake> daja77: so rm <file> && cp /ROCK/etc/<file> . && vim <file> should work [14:39] <daja77> k. [14:39] <daja77> what about that .ICE stuff [14:40] <daja77> have only one machine here atm [14:40] <mnemoc> daja77: linux-tage? typo? [14:40] <daja77> i can upload that image if you like [14:41] <daja77> mnemoc: no why? [14:42] <mnemoc> daja77: i thought hat was linuxtag :\ [14:42] <mnemoc> that* [14:42] <daja77> tag = day, tage = days [14:42] <blindcoder> daja77: maybe I can be there, have to check once I'm back home [14:42] <daja77> you could check if the url is working [14:43] <daja77> blindcoder: great [14:43] <mnemoc> daja77: ic :) [14:43] <daja77> :) [15:11] <fake> daja77: the ICE stuff is strange. /tmp should *really* be world writeable [15:12] <daja77> it is [15:12] <daja77> but mkdir failed :/ [15:12] <daja77> can i give that image somehow? [15:12] <daja77> +you [15:15] <fake> the imge you built? [15:16] <fake> i guess it's pretty big - can you upload it at university or so? [15:17] <daja77> have not that a big quota [15:17] <daja77> i am at university now, so i coudl upload it anywhere ... [15:25] madtux (~mike@200.91.101.101) joined #rocklinux. [15:25] <madtux> hello [15:26] <mnemoc> hi mike [15:26] <daja77> hi madtux [15:27] <madtux> hi mnemoc and daja77 [15:35] <fake> daja77: i take it you don't have a machine to put it? [15:35] <daja77> no machine with a fast connection [15:35] <blindcoder> hrm [15:36] <daja77> my laptop is behind a firewall, so i can't run an apache here [16:03] aXp (~aXp@195.202.148.6) left irc: "leaving" [16:10] <daja77> grrr again netrunners patches do not apply [16:11] <daja77> well don't worry, the rest seems to not apply too [16:13] <blindcoder> heh [16:13] <madtux> stop grrr'ing and fix them [16:14] <daja77> oh ic [16:14] <fake> daja77: it's a bit ugly atm (the desc file changes from clifford reg. stage 1/3 rebuilds) [16:14] <daja77> the patches liggering in submaster, but they are already in svn [16:14] <fake> no need to fix them [16:14] <fake> what?? [16:15] <fake> which patches? [16:15] <fake> nothing is in svn [16:15] <daja77> or i already apllied some this week [16:15] <fake> that's still in submaster [16:15] <fake> more likely ;) [16:15] <daja77> ok my fault, forgot about that [16:16] <fake> i ment, it depends wether the person creating a patch for a descfile affected had the patches applied already or not, and if you have or not [16:17] <daja77> no i already applied the first part of the patches, haven't noticed that they are still in the queue [16:17] <fake> aaah! well, that looks strange, yes ;) [16:29] Action: fake having a cigarette [16:35] treo (~xfman@D95b2.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [16:35] <treo> hi [17:23] Togg_ (~sweitzel@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:55] esden (~esden@p50804A6B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [17:56] <esden> hi ho everyon [17:56] <esden> e [18:08] <esden> humm ... everyone asleep? o_O [18:08] <madtux> hi esden [18:08] <esden> ahh hi madtux! [18:08] <madtux> :) [18:09] <esden> so not everybody is asleep ;) [18:09] <madtux> how are u ? [18:09] <esden> hungry! [18:12] <esden> and you madtux? [18:12] <esden> ahh ... very well ... pizza ... yum yum yum ... MAMPF! [18:13] <madtux> doing ok thanks :) [18:34] madtux (~mike@200.91.101.101) left irc: "leaving" [18:41] <netrunner> hi esden [18:49] <netrunner> *g* (non-adult) https://asdfg.mine.nu/~rehabdoll/humor/pics/photo90.jpg [18:49] Action: netrunner has a feeling that rating his links is important ;) [19:13] SteffenP (steffen@pD9E8EE56.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [19:16] <esden> rofl ... netrunner that link is very nice [19:16] <esden> I think one should write that notice on most pc's [19:18] <esden> thc_rot suite case prepared ... _good_ ;) [20:02] tcr (~tcr@pD9EABD87.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. 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[22:12] <esden> re hi [22:12] <blindcoder> wb esden [22:12] Action: esden finished moving [22:13] <blindcoder> nice :) [22:13] <esden> several minutes ago I unpacked the last load from my car [22:13] <blindcoder> and you're only again already [22:14] <esden> and now I am missing the second key to my cell ... so I can give them to the administration>_< [22:14] <esden> it is in ingolstadt >_< [22:14] <esden> damn [22:14] <esden> blindcoder: ? what do you want to tell me with that? ... it is not really understandable ... [22:16] <blindcoder> esden: oh... nothing really :D [22:16] Action: blindcoder smiles engagingly [22:16] <esden> no ... it is a syntax parse error ... [22:17] <esden> please retry ;) [22:17] <blindcoder> esden: I just want to say that you're addicted :P [22:17] <esden> addicted to what? [22:17] <esden> moving? [22:17] <blindcoder> IRC [22:20] <esden> hrm? [22:20] <esden> you think? [22:21] <blindcoder> yes, I think :D [22:25] <esden> humm ... why do you think so? [22:26] <esden> I am only working against lonelyness ;) [22:26] <blindcoder> yeah. on IRC. in #rocklinux. [22:29] <esden> and? [22:29] <esden> why not? [22:29] <blindcoder> well... [22:29] <esden> ok ... I admit that I am addicted to you guys ;) [22:29] <blindcoder> thanks. that was what I wanted to hear :D [22:29] <esden> will you accept that answer ;) [22:29] <esden> good [22:35] <netrunner> hm. tomorrow I'll write an exam in efficient algorithms. [22:35] <netrunner> my plan is to start learning tomorrow morning. is that wrong? [22:36] <esden> netrunner: no ... that exam is not _that_ hard ;) [22:36] <esden> I wrote it already [22:36] <netrunner> esden: really? at tum? [22:36] <esden> ack [22:36] <netrunner> you are sure you are not talking about basic algorithms? [22:37] <netrunner> cause the latter is the one you must listen to :) [22:37] <esden> ohh ... yes basic algorithms [22:38] <netrunner> yeah, I already had that. which is a good basic for ea, but I didn't learn so far ... [22:38] <netrunner> damn. I hate studying. [22:38] <netrunner> and half an hour after the exam I have a presentation. [22:38] <treo> gn8 [22:38] treo (~xfman@D95b2.d.pppool.de) left irc: "cya@all" [22:39] <esden> humm ... nice [22:39] <esden> that is a busy day [22:39] <netrunner> hm. me doing reflection. sleeping :) [22:39] <netrunner> esden: yes, ends at about 2200 [22:40] <netrunner> n8 * [22:40] <esden> n8 netrunner [22:50] SteffenP (steffen@pD9E8EE56.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "https://www.bomberclone.de" [23:06] <esden> damn I realized that I deleted my thc schematic >_< [23:30] <daja77> hi esden [23:31] <esden> hi daja77 [23:31] <esden> urgh ... my feet stink >_< [23:31] <daja77> haha! [23:36] <esden> that is not funny [23:36] <daja77> no perhaps not [23:57] <esden> brb [23:57] esden (~esden@p5080402A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: [00:00] --- Fri Dec 17 2004