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[09:21] <netrunner> moin [09:21] <blindcoder> moin netrunner [09:23] <blindcoder> ping freshmeat [09:23] <blindcoder> no reply [09:25] <netrunner> but the website is online [09:25] <blindcoder> but sloooow [09:25] <blindcoder> about as responsive as the ROCK-Devel mailinglist [09:37] <kasc> moin [09:40] <blindcoder> moin kasc [09:44] Action: kasc doing a "Zwangs-build" [09:44] <blindcoder> o_O [09:44] <kasc> meine Heizung ist kaputt und neben meinem Backofen ist die cpu die einzig brauchbare Wärmequelle... [09:44] <kasc> *freezing* [09:44] <blindcoder> *lol* [09:45] <blindcoder> why not just use cpuburn? [09:45] <kasc> too unproductive ;) [09:45] <blindcoder> heh [09:45] <kasc> und Schleppi aufm Schoß sieht besser aus als Hintern in der Röhre *fg* [09:45] <blindcoder> btw, anyone knows of a usable tool that displays network usage in either html or parseable format? [09:46] <kasc> iptables... [09:46] <blindcoder> I was hoping for a somewhat higher level tool :-) [09:47] <kasc> hehe [09:47] <nullslack> mrtg? [09:47] <blindcoder> nullslack: I fail to get a working ucd-snmpd configuration together [09:48] <blindcoder> also, I have no snmp-supporting firmware for my WRT54G :( [09:50] <kasc> what about ntop? [09:50] <nullslack> oh ic...easiest to setup and AFAIK doesn't require snmp is zabbix...my choice for those hard-to-setup monitoring tools ;) [09:51] <blindcoder> zabbix? [09:51] <nullslack> https://www.zabbix.org [09:51] <nullslack> it's whole suite of monitoring tools [09:52] <nullslack> i mean a monitoring tool for a lot of things ;) [09:53] <nullslack> oh damn! it's zabbix.com now [09:54] <blindcoder> hmm [09:54] <blindcoder> looks big [09:54] <blindcoder> I'd love to install wifi-box on my router [09:54] <blindcoder> but I can't find information on what's included on those FWs [09:58] <nullslack> how bout natmonitor? [10:00] <blindcoder> checking [10:03] <blindcoder> interesting [10:03] <blindcoder> Host:192.168.1.2 IN:17179GBps OUT:17179GBps MIN:26214GBps MOUT:26214GBps [10:03] <blindcoder> when did I create so much traffic? :) [10:04] <nullslack> pretty cool ey [10:04] <nullslack> what tool did u use to get those numbers? [10:05] <blindcoder> natmonitor :) [10:05] <nullslack> whoaa...you've set it up so quickly ;) [10:06] <nullslack> what's the uptime of ur router? [10:06] <blindcoder> my router has an uptime of usually less than 24h because the FW it runs can't reconnect after my ISP disconnects me [10:06] <blindcoder> so I have a cronjob that reboots the router at 4AM every day [10:07] <nullslack> hmmm pretty big numbers [10:07] <blindcoder> pretty wrong numbers :) [10:08] <nullslack> yes [10:08] <blindcoder> if my connection would be at peak throughput all day it would barely reach the 30GB area [10:09] <blindcoder> guess I'll try the wifibox firmware tomorrow [10:09] <blindcoder> seems to have snmp support [10:10] <nullslack> goodluck ;) [10:10] <blindcoder> thanks, I'll need it :) [10:10] <blindcoder> and if worse come to worst I still have a working pppd configuration on my PC :) [10:15] <nullslack> upgrading ur con? [10:18] <blindcoder> haeh? [10:18] <blindcoder> english, please [10:24] <nullslack> i mean ur upgrading ur bandwidth? [10:25] <blindcoder> no, my router [10:26] <netrunner> nullslack: your keys "y" and "o" are defekt, consider replacing your keyboard please. [10:26] <nullslack> netrunner, oh sorry ;) [10:28] <blindcoder> netrunner: you know, bandwith is expensive :) [10:32] nullslack (~nullslack@203.131.109.114) left irc: "Leaving" [10:33] <netrunner> hm, I didn't want to frighten him :) [10:34] <blindcoder> he'll be baack [10:34] <blindcoder> brb [10:53] <netrunner> https://books.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/01/181247&tid=156&tid=192&tid=6 [13:40] <daja77> damn gnome [13:45] <blindcoder> damn orc [13:48] <daja77> interesting build error for libgnomeui [13:48] <daja77> failed to load "./stock_attach.png": Couldn't recognize the image file format for file './stock_attach.png' [13:53] <blindcoder> hmm [13:53] <blindcoder> didn't have that recently [14:33] treo (~xfman@Da180.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [14:34] <treo> sali [14:35] BoS (~BoS@dialin-145-254-169-200.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:35] <daja77> grmpf [14:38] BoS (~BoS@dialin-145-254-079-253.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [15:43] owl (~owl@karnaya.de) joined #rocklinux. [15:43] <owl> huh [15:43] <owl> u [16:01] <blindcoder> moin owl [17:01] <fake> daja77: == 12/20/04 16:46:01 =[9]=> Finished building package cdrtools. [17:01] <fake> daja77: which mkisofs [17:01] <fake> daja77: /usr/bin/mkisofs [17:01] <fake> ... [17:01] <daja77> it did not work on my installed crystal ... [17:02] <fake> daja77: you must re-emerge linux26-source *or* apply 74-asm-byteorder_h.patch manually [17:02] <SerWou> Hello the Chan [17:02] <fake> in /usr/src/linux [17:02] <fake> hi S [17:02] <fake> hi SerWou [17:03] <SerWou> hello fake [17:03] <daja77> re emerging is harnful :) [17:03] <daja77> harmful even [17:14] <daja77> fake: other thing does libgnomeui fail at your builds too? [17:16] <fake> daja77: let me see... [17:17] <fake> daja77: no, what's the error? [17:17] <daja77> which breaks almost every other gnome stuff, stopped my build at error count 63 [17:17] <daja77> failed to load "./stock_attach.png": Couldn't recognize the image file format for file './stock_attach.png' [17:18] <daja77> make[4]: *** [gnome-stock-pixbufs.h] Error 1 [17:19] <fake> daja77: that's strange, i never saw that [17:19] <fake> can you verify the checksum? [17:20] <daja77> how? [17:21] <fake> of the download [17:22] <fake> ./scripts/Download -mk-cksum download/mirror/l/libgnomeui-....tar.bz2 [17:22] <fake> and compare it to the one in the desc file [17:23] <daja77> the same [17:24] <fake> hum. [17:24] <fake> what program tries to load stock_attach.png ? [17:25] hannes_ (ucbiv@rzstud3.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de) joined #rocklinux. [17:25] <hannes_> hi [17:26] <daja77> fake: it is gdkpixbuf related [17:27] <fake> daja77: did gdkpixbuf work? [17:27] <daja77> it compiled [19:17] kasc_ (kasc@dsl-213-023-193-034.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [19:28] kasc (kasc@dsl-213-023-189-100.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:28] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [20:01] Nick change: BoS -> BoS^afk [20:13] SteffenP (~steffen@pD95901F5.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [20:33] steffen_ (steffen@pC19EAA69.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [20:42] SteffenP (~steffen@pD95901F5.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:27] steffen_ (steffen@pC19EAA69.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "https://www.bomberclone.de" [21:32] <mnemoc> which man includes LD* env vars? [21:34] <fake> man ld.so [21:34] <fake> ;) [21:34] <fake> fake@jana:/usr/share/man$ grep 'LD_LIBRARY_PATH' man?/* [21:36] <mnemoc> :) [21:36] <mnemoc> thanks [21:44] <mnemoc> fake: how legal is to use /opt/*/lib on ld.so.conf? [21:44] <mnemoc> this strace of ld doesn't look good: open("/opt/*/lib/libpangox-1.0.so.0", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) [21:45] <fake> mnemoc: using globbing in ld.so.conf is an extension we patch into glibc (ldconfig) [21:46] <mnemoc> fake: what should i do then? [21:47] <mnemoc> i tried -L/opt/gnome24/lib but it's ignoring it :\ [21:48] <fake> -L? while linking? [21:49] <mnemoc> library-path ? [21:51] <mnemoc> it works for the -libclip-gtk2 (on /opt/clip/lib) but not for it's dependencies [21:51] <owl> moin [21:51] <mnemoc> it works for the -lclip-gtk2 (on /opt/clip/lib) but not for it's dependencies [21:51] <mnemoc> moin owl [21:52] <owl> hi mnemoc [21:52] <fake> mnemoc: try using -rpath=/opt/<depdir>/lib [21:55] <mnemoc> that worked on ld, thanks :) now i have to make clip call ld with it :) [21:57] <mnemoc> DT_RUNPATH... [21:58] <treo> gn8@all [21:59] <mnemoc> gn8 treo [22:01] <mnemoc> LD_RUN_PATH :D [22:02] treo (~xfman@Da180.d.pppool.de) left irc: "cya@all" [22:06] <mnemoc> fake: LD_RUN_PATH=${LD_RUN_PATH} clip -es $@.prg -lclip-gtk2 <--- there is any nicer way to export form Makefile ? [22:07] <fake> no, no idea, sorry [22:07] <mnemoc> thanks any way, -rpath was a great tip [22:09] <fake> there is also rpath-link, but i can't remember the difference right now [22:11] <mnemoc> are read it twice and i can't get the difference :\ [22:13] <netrunner> how do I know which keys are ssh1 and which are ssh2? [22:17] <fake> netrunner: ssh1 only supports rsa1 keys [22:18] <netrunner> but ssh2 can use the same rsa key? [22:19] <fake> no idea [22:20] <netrunner> no. just tried :) [22:20] <netrunner> fake: would you consider it a security risk to make the public part of your ssh key public? - I mean - that's what it is thought for, no? [22:21] <fake> the public key is transferred on first connection - sure you can make it public, hence the name ;) [22:22] <netrunner> fake: thing is there is a chat that authenticates members via ssh public key, ... I thought if it is neccessary to create an extra key for it. [22:37] <owl> someone has somethousand euro for this horse on eurosport? ;) [22:38] <mnemoc> you still trying to buy that horse? [22:40] <owl> mnemoc: nah. :( if you mean the one from my riding-school. [22:40] <owl> and cuz of the accident from sone weeks ago i didn't tdo horseback-riding [22:41] <mnemoc> :( [22:41] <owl> yeah. ok - the last two month i had too much panic because of being remembered of peru [22:41] <netrunner> owl: I've seen horse for 4,95/kg at walmart, maybe you take that? :) [22:42] <owl> netrunner: *kick* not really. [22:42] <mnemoc> =) [22:44] <owl> mnemoc: yesterday there was dressage displayed in tv... it was also great... *sigh* and i still don't know what i prefer more ;) [22:45] <owl> mnemoc: did you do jumping and dressage, too? [22:45] <mnemoc> just polo :p .... and bike-polo [22:46] <owl> mnemoc: hehe :) ok. [22:47] <owl> mnemoc: well. buy a pony for your daughter and an horse for you and your wife *vbeg* [22:47] <mnemoc> bike-polo was quite exhausting =) [22:47] <owl> mnemoc: hehe. i could imagine [22:47] <mnemoc> i asked for a pony for my girls, but they ask me $500.000 ---> US$ 700 [22:48] <mnemoc> without housing [22:48] <owl> pardon? O_o 500-thousands? *confused* [22:49] <mnemoc> $500.000 chilean pesos [22:49] <mnemoc> what means US$ 700 [22:50] <owl> ah so. hm. is this much? /me doesen't know about the average income of people in your country [22:50] <mnemoc> US$ 5000 [22:51] <owl> i c. hm. so it would be not that bad, would it? [22:51] <mnemoc> it's too much for me [22:53] <owl> and: housing - what about having it on a belt and just giving extra-food? [22:53] <owl> hmm. ok, that's bad, then [22:53] <mnemoc> how much is the avergae income in germany? [22:54] <mnemoc> owl: by housing i mean the whole cost of having him (?) somewhere sleeping and eating and cleaning... blah blah blah... [22:55] <owl> mnemoc: dunno. [22:55] <owl> mnemoc: yeah. but this are things which you, your wife and your daughter could do :) [22:57] <mnemoc> cleaning yes [22:57] <mnemoc> but i can't keep him on my bathroom :) [22:58] <owl> nah, but on a belt? O_o should not be that expensive [22:59] <mnemoc> no, but it is a fixed expent i can't handle [23:00] <owl> ok O_o [23:02] <owl> here in .de it costs about 150 - 300 EUR/month... (incl. blacksmith) [23:03] <mnemoc> which is the rate EUR/US$ ? [23:03] <owl> sorry. dunno. [23:03] <mnemoc> 1.2? [23:04] <mnemoc> US$/EUR ? [23:04] <owl> sorry. dunno. ;) [23:04] <mnemoc> =) [23:05] <mnemoc> assuming it's 0.8. --> 150=25% of the price of the pony [23:05] <owl> yeah... [23:06] <mnemoc> and that's more than what i pay for the college of my girl :) [23:07] <mnemoc> school [23:07] <mnemoc> kinder garden, as you wish [23:08] <owl> hmmm. ok. [23:09] <owl> how much do riding-lessons cost? [23:10] <owl> or sometimes renting a horse? [23:13] <mnemoc> i never did it :\ [23:14] <owl> k. maybe for your daughter? [23:15] <mnemoc> she has 3 years, and i pay (on a hill) US$ 0.6 for a ride on 25-30 minutes :p [23:18] <owl> hehe. ok ;) [23:19] <owl> 3 years is ideal to start riding on "shetland pony" :p [23:24] mnemoc_ (~amery@200.75.27.22) joined #rocklinux. [23:26] mnemoc (~amery@200.75.27.8) left irc: Operation timed out [23:26] Nick change: mnemoc_ -> mnemoc [23:29] [anders] (~snafu@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:00] --- Tue Dec 21 2004