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[08:18] <blindcoder> moin
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[08:45] <blindcoder> mnemoc: done
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[09:21] <netrunner> moin
[09:21] <blindcoder> moin netrunner 
[09:23] <blindcoder> ping freshmeat
[09:23] <blindcoder> no reply
[09:25] <netrunner> but the website is online
[09:25] <blindcoder> but sloooow
[09:25] <blindcoder> about as responsive as the ROCK-Devel mailinglist
[09:37] <kasc> moin
[09:40] <blindcoder> moin kasc 
[09:44] Action: kasc doing a "Zwangs-build"
[09:44] <blindcoder> o_O
[09:44] <kasc> meine Heizung ist kaputt und neben meinem Backofen ist die cpu die einzig brauchbare Wärmequelle...
[09:44] <kasc> *freezing*
[09:44] <blindcoder> *lol*
[09:45] <blindcoder> why not just use cpuburn?
[09:45] <kasc> too unproductive ;)
[09:45] <blindcoder> heh
[09:45] <kasc> und Schleppi aufm Schoß sieht besser aus als Hintern in der Röhre *fg*
[09:45] <blindcoder> btw, anyone knows of a usable tool that displays network usage in either html or parseable format?
[09:46] <kasc> iptables...
[09:46] <blindcoder> I was hoping for a somewhat higher level tool :-)
[09:47] <kasc> hehe
[09:47] <nullslack> mrtg?
[09:47] <blindcoder> nullslack: I fail to get a working ucd-snmpd configuration together
[09:48] <blindcoder> also, I have no snmp-supporting firmware for my WRT54G :(
[09:50] <kasc> what about ntop?
[09:50] <nullslack> oh ic...easiest to setup and AFAIK doesn't require snmp is zabbix...my choice for those hard-to-setup monitoring tools ;)
[09:51] <blindcoder> zabbix?
[09:51] <nullslack> http://www.zabbix.org
[09:51] <nullslack> it's whole suite of monitoring tools
[09:52] <nullslack> i mean a monitoring tool for a lot of things ;)
[09:53] <nullslack> oh damn! it's zabbix.com now
[09:54] <blindcoder> hmm
[09:54] <blindcoder> looks big
[09:54] <blindcoder> I'd love to install wifi-box on my router
[09:54] <blindcoder> but I can't find information on what's included on those FWs
[09:58] <nullslack> how bout natmonitor?
[10:00] <blindcoder> checking
[10:03] <blindcoder> interesting
[10:03] <blindcoder> Host: IN:17179GBps OUT:17179GBps MIN:26214GBps MOUT:26214GBps
[10:03] <blindcoder> when did I create so much traffic? :)
[10:04] <nullslack> pretty cool ey
[10:04] <nullslack> what tool did u use to get those numbers?
[10:05] <blindcoder> natmonitor :)
[10:05] <nullslack> whoaa...you've set it up so quickly ;)
[10:06] <nullslack> what's the uptime of ur router?
[10:06] <blindcoder> my router has an uptime of usually less than 24h because the FW it runs can't reconnect after my ISP disconnects me
[10:06] <blindcoder> so I have a cronjob that reboots the router at 4AM every day
[10:07] <nullslack> hmmm pretty big numbers
[10:07] <blindcoder> pretty wrong numbers :)
[10:08] <nullslack> yes
[10:08] <blindcoder> if my connection would be at peak throughput all day it would barely reach the 30GB area
[10:09] <blindcoder> guess I'll try the wifibox firmware tomorrow
[10:09] <blindcoder> seems to have snmp support
[10:10] <nullslack> goodluck ;)
[10:10] <blindcoder> thanks, I'll need it :)
[10:10] <blindcoder> and if worse come to worst I still have a working pppd configuration on my PC :)
[10:15] <nullslack> upgrading ur con? 
[10:18] <blindcoder> haeh?
[10:18] <blindcoder> english, please
[10:24] <nullslack> i mean ur upgrading ur bandwidth?
[10:25] <blindcoder> no, my router
[10:26] <netrunner> nullslack: your keys "y" and "o" are defekt, consider replacing your keyboard please.
[10:26] <nullslack> netrunner, oh sorry ;)
[10:28] <blindcoder> netrunner: you know, bandwith is expensive :)
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[10:33] <netrunner> hm, I didn't want to frighten him :)
[10:34] <blindcoder> he'll be baack
[10:34] <blindcoder> brb
[10:53] <netrunner> http://books.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/01/181247&tid=156&tid=192&tid=6
[13:40] <daja77> damn gnome
[13:45] <blindcoder> damn orc
[13:48] <daja77> interesting build error for libgnomeui
[13:48] <daja77> failed to load "./stock_attach.png": Couldn't recognize the image file format for file './stock_attach.png'
[13:53] <blindcoder> hmm
[13:53] <blindcoder> didn't have that recently
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[14:34] <treo> sali
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[14:35] <daja77> grmpf 
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[15:43] <owl> huh
[15:43] <owl> u
[16:01] <blindcoder> moin owl 
[17:01] <fake> daja77: == 12/20/04 16:46:01 =[9]=> Finished building package cdrtools.
[17:01] <fake> daja77: which mkisofs 
[17:01] <fake> daja77: /usr/bin/mkisofs
[17:01] <fake> ...
[17:01] <daja77> it did not work on my installed crystal ...
[17:02] <fake> daja77: you must re-emerge linux26-source *or* apply 74-asm-byteorder_h.patch manually
[17:02] <SerWou> Hello the Chan
[17:02] <fake> in /usr/src/linux
[17:02] <fake> hi S
[17:02] <fake> hi SerWou 
[17:03] <SerWou> hello fake
[17:03] <daja77> re emerging is harnful :)
[17:03] <daja77> harmful even
[17:14] <daja77> fake: other thing does libgnomeui fail at your builds too?
[17:16] <fake> daja77: let me see...
[17:17] <fake> daja77: no, what's the error?
[17:17] <daja77> which breaks almost every other gnome stuff, stopped my build at error count 63
[17:17] <daja77> failed to load "./stock_attach.png": Couldn't recognize the image file format for file './stock_attach.png'
[17:18] <daja77> make[4]: *** [gnome-stock-pixbufs.h] Error 1
[17:19] <fake> daja77: that's strange, i never saw that
[17:19] <fake> can you verify the checksum?
[17:20] <daja77> how?
[17:21] <fake> of the download
[17:22] <fake> ./scripts/Download -mk-cksum download/mirror/l/libgnomeui-....tar.bz2
[17:22] <fake> and compare it to the one in the desc file
[17:23] <daja77> the same
[17:24] <fake> hum.
[17:24] <fake> what program tries to load stock_attach.png ?
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[17:25] <hannes_> hi
[17:26] <daja77> fake: it is gdkpixbuf related
[17:27] <fake> daja77: did gdkpixbuf work?
[17:27] <daja77> it compiled
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[21:32] <mnemoc> which man includes LD* env vars?
[21:34] <fake> man ld.so
[21:34] <fake> ;)
[21:34] <fake> fake@jana:/usr/share/man$ grep 'LD_LIBRARY_PATH' man?/*
[21:36] <mnemoc> :)
[21:36] <mnemoc> thanks
[21:44] <mnemoc> fake: how legal is to use /opt/*/lib on ld.so.conf?
[21:44] <mnemoc> this strace of ld doesn't look good: open("/opt/*/lib/libpangox-1.0.so.0", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[21:45] <fake> mnemoc: using globbing in ld.so.conf is an extension we patch into glibc (ldconfig)
[21:46] <mnemoc> fake: what should i do then?
[21:47] <mnemoc> i tried -L/opt/gnome24/lib but it's ignoring it :\
[21:48] <fake> -L? while linking?
[21:49] <mnemoc> library-path ?
[21:51] <mnemoc> it works for the -libclip-gtk2 (on /opt/clip/lib) but not for it's dependencies
[21:51] <owl> moin
[21:51] <mnemoc> it works for the -lclip-gtk2 (on /opt/clip/lib) but not for it's dependencies
[21:51] <mnemoc> moin owl
[21:52] <owl> hi mnemoc 
[21:52] <fake> mnemoc: try using -rpath=/opt/<depdir>/lib
[21:55] <mnemoc> that worked on ld, thanks :)   now i have to make clip call ld with it :)
[21:57] <mnemoc> DT_RUNPATH...
[21:58] <treo> gn8@all
[21:59] <mnemoc> gn8 treo 
[22:01] <mnemoc> LD_RUN_PATH :D
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[22:06] <mnemoc> fake: LD_RUN_PATH=${LD_RUN_PATH} clip -es $@.prg -lclip-gtk2 <--- there is any nicer way to export form Makefile ?
[22:07] <fake> no, no idea, sorry
[22:07] <mnemoc> thanks any way, -rpath was a great tip
[22:09] <fake> there is also rpath-link, but i can't remember the difference right now
[22:11] <mnemoc> are read it twice and i can't get the difference :\
[22:13] <netrunner> how do I know which keys are ssh1 and which are ssh2?
[22:17] <fake> netrunner: ssh1 only supports rsa1 keys
[22:18] <netrunner> but ssh2 can use the same rsa key?
[22:19] <fake> no idea
[22:20] <netrunner> no. just tried :)
[22:20] <netrunner> fake: would you consider it a security risk to make the public part of your ssh key public?  - I mean - that's what it is thought for, no?
[22:21] <fake> the public key is transferred on first connection - sure you can make it public, hence the name ;)
[22:22] <netrunner> fake: thing is there is a chat that authenticates members via ssh public key, ... I thought if it is neccessary to create an extra key for it.
[22:37] <owl> someone has somethousand euro for this horse on eurosport? ;)
[22:38] <mnemoc> you still trying to buy that horse?
[22:40] <owl> mnemoc: nah. :( if you mean the one from my riding-school. 
[22:40] <owl> and cuz of the accident from sone weeks ago i didn't tdo horseback-riding
[22:41] <mnemoc> :(
[22:41] <owl> yeah. ok - the last two month i had too much panic because of being remembered of peru 
[22:41] <netrunner> owl: I've seen horse for 4,95/kg at walmart, maybe you take that? :)
[22:42] <owl> netrunner: *kick* not really. 
[22:42] <mnemoc> =)
[22:44] <owl> mnemoc: yesterday there was dressage displayed in tv... it was also great... *sigh* and i still don't know what i prefer more ;)
[22:45] <owl> mnemoc: did you do jumping and dressage, too?
[22:45] <mnemoc> just polo :p  .... and bike-polo
[22:46] <owl> mnemoc: hehe :) ok. 
[22:47] <owl> mnemoc: well. buy a pony for your daughter and an horse for you and your wife *vbeg*
[22:47] <mnemoc> bike-polo was quite exhausting =)
[22:47] <owl> mnemoc: hehe. i could imagine
[22:47] <mnemoc> i asked for a pony for my girls, but they ask me $500.000 ---> US$ 700
[22:48] <mnemoc> without housing
[22:48] <owl> pardon? O_o 500-thousands? *confused*
[22:49] <mnemoc> $500.000 chilean pesos
[22:49] <mnemoc> what means US$ 700
[22:50] <owl> ah so. hm. is this much? /me doesen't know about the average income of people in your country
[22:50] <mnemoc> US$ 5000 
[22:51] <owl> i c. hm. so it would be not that bad, would it?
[22:51] <mnemoc> it's too much for me
[22:53] <owl> and: housing - what about having it on a belt and just giving extra-food?
[22:53] <owl> hmm. ok, that's bad, then
[22:53] <mnemoc> how much is the avergae income in germany?
[22:54] <mnemoc> owl: by housing i mean the whole cost of having him (?) somewhere sleeping and eating and cleaning... blah blah blah...
[22:55] <owl> mnemoc: dunno. 
[22:55] <owl> mnemoc: yeah. but this are things which you, your wife and your daughter could do :) 
[22:57] <mnemoc> cleaning yes
[22:57] <mnemoc> but i can't keep him on my bathroom :)
[22:58] <owl> nah, but on a belt? O_o should not be that expensive
[22:59] <mnemoc> no, but it is a fixed expent i can't handle
[23:00] <owl> ok O_o
[23:02] <owl> here in .de it costs about 150 - 300 EUR/month... (incl. blacksmith)
[23:03] <mnemoc> which is the rate EUR/US$ ?
[23:03] <owl> sorry. dunno.
[23:03] <mnemoc> 1.2?
[23:04] <mnemoc> US$/EUR ?
[23:04] <owl> sorry. dunno. ;)
[23:04] <mnemoc> =)
[23:05] <mnemoc> assuming it's 0.8. --> 150=25% of the price of the pony
[23:05] <owl> yeah... 
[23:06] <mnemoc> and that's more than what i pay for the college of my girl :)
[23:07] <mnemoc> school
[23:07] <mnemoc> kinder garden, as you wish
[23:08] <owl> hmmm. ok. 
[23:09] <owl> how much do riding-lessons cost?
[23:10] <owl> or sometimes renting a horse?
[23:13] <mnemoc> i never did it :\
[23:14] <owl> k. maybe for your daughter?
[23:15] <mnemoc> she has 3 years, and i pay (on a hill) US$ 0.6 for a ride on 25-30 minutes :p
[23:18] <owl> hehe. ok ;)
[23:19] <owl> 3 years is ideal to start riding on "shetland pony" :p
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