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[00:06] esden (~esden@waw03213181.visp.energis.pl) joined #rocklinux. [00:07] <esden> hi ho everyone??? [00:09] <esden> cu all [00:09] esden (~esden@waw03213181.visp.energis.pl) left irc: Client Quit [00:48] <fake> hi [01:02] <netrunner> kernel 2.6.10 [01:15] <netrunner> hm. this -newdelete thing is quite intrusive. it left 4 logfiles :) [01:32] Action: netrunner starting a crystal build with 2.6.10 tomorrow morning. [04:02] blindcod1r (~blindcode@dsl-213-023-153-093.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [04:02] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-102-161.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [04:02] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [05:40] ojh (~omer@67-42-50-205.eugn.qwest.net) joined #rocklinux. [06:10] <mistik1> Merry Christmas Everyone!!! [06:13] <ojh> Quick question: how do I deselect packages while configuring a target? [06:34] ojh (~omer@67-42-50-205.eugn.qwest.net) left #rocklinux. [07:09] half (~outsider@203.200.189.170) joined #rocklinux. [07:30] half (~outsider@203.200.189.170) left irc: [08:39] netrunne1 (~andreas@pD9E8C106.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [08:56] netrunner (~andreas@pD9E8DF5B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:56] Nick change: netrunne1 -> netrunner [09:11] <netrunner> moin [09:55] <praenti> moin [10:18] <praenti> netrunner: when do start driving to berlin? Optional I need some place for my tower and have no information yet if fake can take it to berlin [10:24] <th> damn it. i have to commit to the 2.0.4 tag :-( [10:24] <th> fscking dietlibc/pkg_patch/pkg_tar.patch [10:25] <praenti> th: whats wrong with tar? [10:25] <th> praenti: dietlibc injects a tar patch for bootdisk target [10:25] <th> praenti: which does not apply after tar update [10:25] <th> it did not break my reference build of course [10:26] <th> but i did not build a boot target before tagging 2.0.4 [10:26] <th> so i did not notice the problem [10:26] <praenti> th: oh [10:26] <th> currently considering what to do. [10:27] <th> but i guess i will commit into the tags/2.0.4 [10:27] <th> or remove better remove the tag again [10:27] <th> and readd it later. [10:27] <th> yea thats better [10:27] <praenti> th: whats wrong on comitting it. you haven't released the version yet [10:28] <th> committing into tags/ in general [10:28] <praenti> i see [10:28] <th> praenti: will you be at the congress? [10:29] <praenti> th: yes, will join 26th evening [10:29] <th> praenti: great. so you will be there even before myself [10:29] <praenti> th: if the plane is on time [10:29] <th> praenti: there was some issue lingering around very long now i want to discuss with you ;) [10:30] <praenti> th: i hope i will be prepared... [10:31] <th> praenti: it's about openmotif/lesstif [10:31] <praenti> ok [10:32] <th> smp wanted to discuss this with you in first place but obviously he didn't [10:32] <th> i have to read my logs with him about it, to recall the details myself ;) [10:32] <praenti> what was the main question? the license thing? [10:32] <th> no [10:33] <th> guess it was about openmotif vs. lesstif [10:33] <th> and the (old) version of openmotif [10:35] <praenti> ahh. understand. i know what you mean. I wanted to have a look on congress on that. problem with 2.2.x versions was that nedit declared as not official released [10:35] <praenti> ...(declared) them... [10:36] <praenti> and after a deeper look i have seen that also, because no 2.2.x version was available on the opengroup-server [10:37] <praenti> see ftp://openmotif.opengroup.org/pub/openmotif/ [10:40] <praenti> hmm. looks like nedit declared 2.2.x ok. [10:40] <praenti> perhaps an update is needed. i schedule that for congress [10:43] <th> yea let's have a look there. [10:49] <th> 2.0.4 has been untagged. [11:04] <th> hmmm is there anything i should not forget to bring to the congress? [11:06] <praenti> hmm. i don't know anything. the only thing i hope is ripclaw brings some switches with him [11:06] <th> i'll have some cheap small ones with me [11:07] <praenti> th: i think that will be enough. [11:07] <th> i'm still unsure wether my laptop is enough to bring along [11:07] <praenti> i only remember how the network was last year [11:08] <praenti> i hope i will get my tower to berlin. otherwise my ibook must be enough. [11:09] <blindcoder> moin [11:09] <th> it's somewhere in the south? [11:09] <th> moin blindy [11:09] <blindcoder> moin th [11:09] <praenti> moin blindcoder [11:09] <praenti> th: yes. so only fake and netrunner have it on their way [11:10] <blindcoder> moin praenti [11:10] <blindcoder> praenti: when will you come to me tomorrow? [11:10] <praenti> blindcoder: when should i come? ;-) [11:16] <th> blindcoder: will you have some build-power at the congress? [11:21] <blindcoder> th: I can bring some [11:21] <blindcoder> but I need storage [11:21] <blindcoder> the best storage I have is an external 40 GB USB drive [11:22] <th> storage for what? [11:22] <praenti> DVD-Burner and 10x 4,7 GB DVD+RW [11:23] <blindcoder> th: for ROCK [11:24] <blindcoder> I only have three or four GB free on that machine [11:24] <th> i see [11:24] <praenti> ohh. i will have alook if i can get 13 gb free [11:24] <blindcoder> as I said, I have a 40 GB USB disk [11:24] <blindcoder> if that's enough, fine [11:25] <praenti> ok. i must leave [11:25] Action: praenti lunch [11:25] <blindcoder> bye [11:25] <th> perhaps i should bring this 160GB hdd with me. [11:25] <blindcoder> :) [11:27] <blindcoder> okay, gottaq leave again, too [11:27] <blindcoder> this dial-up here stinks [11:27] <blindcoder> bye [11:28] <th> cya [11:53] treo (~xfman@D9d8b.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [11:58] <treo> moin [12:34] <mnemoc> moin! [13:08] <owl> moin [13:08] <owl> merry x-mas... [13:10] esden (~esden@dmv39.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined #rocklinux. [13:11] esden (~esden@dmv39.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Client Quit [14:14] esden (~esden@dmv39.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined #rocklinux. [14:15] <esden> hi ho everyone [14:18] <daja77> hi esden [14:23] <esden> hi daja!!! [14:23] <esden> at least someone is online;) [14:31] nzg (~tschmidt@s15173431.rootmaster.info) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:34] esden (~esden@dmv39.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: [14:46] kasc (kasc@dsl-213-023-191-066.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [14:48] esden (~esden@dmv39.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined #rocklinux. [15:10] Action: praenti back online [15:34] esden (~esden@dmv39.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: [15:40] <blindcoder> hi [15:41] <blindcoder> netcrow: ping [15:43] <blindcoder> netcrow: ah, forget it [15:45] <blindcoder> th: could you please send an announcement to the mailing lists?+ [15:58] SteffenP (steffen@pD9E50DA7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [16:22] owl (~owl@karnaya.de) left irc: "trying to debug something" [16:46] tcr (~tcr@p54879066.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [16:50] SteffenP (steffen@pD9E50DA7.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:50] SteffenP (steffen@pD9E50524.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:04] tcr (~tcr@p54879066.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:08] Nick change: mnemoc -> __mnemoc [17:19] <daja77> ARGL [17:20] <__mnemoc> uhm? [17:20] <daja77> generic build produced no bash package [17:23] <__mnemoc> o_O [17:24] <daja77> built in stage 3 but no gem produce, resulting in a non working install ... [17:33] tcr (~tcr@p54879066.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:46] owl (~owl@karnaya.de) joined #rocklinux. [17:46] <owl> hi [17:53] tcr (~tcr@p54879066.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:57] <daja77> can I mount a usb stick in bootdisk? [18:01] <__mnemoc> second stage, i guess you can :) [18:01] <daja77> yep did that, had to load ub module [18:05] <fake> daja77: thanks for the postcard! [18:05] <daja77> ;) [18:06] <daja77> *grml* chroot: cannot run command '/bin/sh': no such file or directory [18:07] <daja77> i installed a bash there ... [18:09] <daja77> mount /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 /mnt/flash/ [18:09] <daja77> oops [18:28] <th> blindcoder: no :-( [18:30] <th> blindcoder: small accident with tar when linking for dietlib [18:33] <th> blindcoder: the reference and crystal build went fine. [18:33] <th> blindcoder: but bootdisk fails [18:34] <th> there is a problem with whcar [18:36] <fake> th: see package/base/dietlibc/parse-config-9 in trunk [18:36] <th> fake: thanks [18:36] <fake> th: i remember tar woes with dietlibc... [18:38] <th> fake: but there is a known fix? [18:43] <th> fake: there are quite big differences between trunk and stable in parse-config-9 [18:53] <th> - hook_add preconf 8 'echo ac_cv_header_wchar_h=no >> config.cache' [18:54] <th> these? [19:06] <th> fake: could you spare a minute? [19:10] <th> - x="${pkg//-/_}" ; x="${x//+/_}" ; x="${x#*=}" [19:10] <th> + x="${pkg//-/_}" ; x="${x//+/_}" [19:10] <th> could anyone parse this one for me? [19:14] <SMP> th: x := replace all '-' in $pkg by '_'; x := replace all '+' in $x by '_' ; x := remove all characters up to an including the first '=' of $x [19:15] <th> thanks. off again for some xmas dinner. [19:15] <th> bbl [19:15] <netrunner> does anybody know about this asm byteorder thing? I updated linux26 and got usr/include/linux/types.h:156: error: redefinition of typedef '__u16' [19:15] <netrunner> in 1-util-linux [19:16] <SMP> updated from what to what? [19:16] <netrunner> SMP: linux 2.6.9 -> 2.6.10 [19:16] <netrunner> SMP: I removed 2 patches from linux/linux26/ because they were applied. [19:17] <SMP> maybe they unbroke the header for 2.6.10 [19:17] <netrunner> SMP: shall I rebuild without the asm byteorder patch? [19:22] <fake> netrunner: try it! [19:22] <netrunner> ah, removing the 74-asm-byteorder.patch ... now util-linux builds :) [19:23] <fake> the one from util-linux? or the one from the kernel? [19:23] <netrunner> fake: the one from kernel [19:23] <fake> wee! [19:23] <fake> that's great. [19:23] <SMP> there's no such patch in util-linux [19:23] <netrunner> SMP: yep. [19:23] Action: fake wasn't sure and too lazy to take a look [19:24] <SMP> I hope removing the patch from linux26 doesn't cause any regressions for other packages [19:24] <netrunner> I'll commit the update once a full kernel build went through [19:24] <netrunner> SMP: I can wait until the whole crystal build finished. would be tomorrow something. [19:25] <netrunner> hm. I am a bit late with building a system for the laptop I want to take to berlin ;) [19:37] <praenti> uff. dns configured. [19:37] <praenti> time to eat and then i must clean my ibook for 21c3 [20:01] <netrunner> hrmpf. can it be that smap does not svn add's files? [20:05] <netrunner> I had a head-tail.patch in ncurses that was not under version control. [20:41] tcr (~tcr@p54879E61.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [20:44] ojh (~omer@67-42-48-102.eugn.qwest.net) joined #rocklinux. [20:45] __mnemoc_ (~amery@200.75.27.26) joined #rocklinux. [20:48] <ojh> I have a question, how do I customize the package selection with the ROCK Config script? [20:52] <ojh> I want to remove all the KDE and most ofthe GNOME section and add some custom packages. [20:52] __mnemoc (~amery@200.75.27.56) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:52] <th> that's easy. have a look at the misc/pkgsel/*in files [20:53] <th> ojh: it's just sed. [20:55] <ojh> So, the syntax expected in the add package rule screen is the same as in these *.in files? [20:57] <th> i never use them [20:57] <th> just set up your own pkgsel file. [20:57] <th> it's easy [20:57] <ojh> Sounds easy, all I want to do is add Zero-Install to the minimal+xfree. [20:57] <th> you can seelct by repository or pkg [20:57] <th> or anything [20:58] <ojh> Its just a regexp match right? [20:58] <th> yea [20:58] <ojh> IC :D [20:59] <ojh> THX. [20:59] jabbott (~jabbott@user-0cdv8db.cable.mindspring.com) joined #rocklinux. [21:12] <jabbott> yay! What is Rock Linux? Why is it better than Red Hat 9? [21:13] <th> who said that it's better? [21:13] <th> who said it's even comparable? [21:18] <jabbott> th: I didn't mean that. I meant what other features does it have? why was it created? et ceterea [21:18] <jabbott> *cetera [21:19] <th> jabbott: it's not a linux distribution [21:20] <th> jabbott: it's more a distribution build kit [21:20] <th> jabbott: you can gather more information on the websites [21:22] <jabbott> rocklinux.de ?? [21:22] <th> .org [21:29] <jabbott> thanks [21:29] <jabbott> will this seemlessly upgrade from RH9 to RL w/o destroying data? [21:29] <th> you still did not understand. [21:30] <th> but you can install withoutloosing data [21:30] <th> if you know where your data is [21:35] <jabbott> kewl [21:35] jabbott (~jabbott@user-0cdv8db.cable.mindspring.com) left #rocklinux. [21:55] <fake> ... that's gonna be fun ... [21:55] ojh (~omer@67-42-48-102.eugn.qwest.net) left #rocklinux. [22:41] Nick change: __mnemoc_ -> mnemoc [22:51] bodisiw (~noah@12-220-22-39.client.insightBB.com) left irc: Connection timed out [23:03] catfather (~catfather@pandemonium.oucs.ox.ac.uk) joined #rocklinux. [23:05] <netrunner> omg. he's gonna sue us :) [23:12] <tcr> netrunner, Bah, until then he'll prolly have all possible scrap of evidency destroyed. [23:12] <tcr> evidence [23:16] <netrunner> grmpf. lvm2 fails with some error in kernel headers. apparently unrelated to anything patched in. [23:17] <netrunner> and I wanted to get this crystal build running until 21c3 ... should have started earlier ;) [00:00] --- Sun Dec 26 2004