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[03:55] <Mech422> hi all [03:55] <Mech422> I have a real newbie question - I was trying to setup/build a rock linux instance, but I couldn't figure out how to get the menu to show a list of ALL available packages to pick what I wanted ? [03:56] <fake> Mech: see misc/pkgsel/*.in [03:56] <Mech422> I seemed like all I could do was 'customize' existing package lists (targets?) [03:56] <Mech422> fake: ahh - this is done outside the menu system ? [03:57] <fake> Mech422: it's also possible to do it inside, but it's done via regular expressions, that's a lot of work. just creating a 'package selection template' is easier and can be re-used more easily [03:57] <Mech422> yeah - I just was farting around and wanted to see what I could do... [03:58] <Mech422> I'd eventually want my own 'recipes' for building my common images - mail server, web server exactly (build targets ?) [03:58] <fake> you can implement that as targets or just as distinct package selectin templated in one common target [03:59] <Mech422> btw - is dietlibc support fully integrated now ? [03:59] <fake> it's used to build some stuff in the bootdisk target [03:59] <Mech422> hmm - I need to RTFM more to learn the diff between a real 'target' and the package templates [03:59] <fake> namely iproute2, gawk, modutils, module-init-tools, the linuxrc, ... [04:00] <Mech422> is dietlibc capable of building the entire system ? I saw things that indicated it was, and things that indicated it wasnt... [04:00] <fake> dietlibc will not build everything, no. how could it? [04:00] <fake> the 'dietlibc' target is trying to build a lot of packages against dietlibc. [04:01] <fake> but no X11 or such stuff [04:01] <Mech422> umm - I don't know what limitations it has ... but ulibC builds most stuff - or can with some code tweaks... [04:02] <Mech422> ahh - yeah, not interested in X11 stuff - let me rephrase, can the 'dietlibc' target produce a use able system including common utilities and maybe a few 'large' packages like Samba ? [04:02] <fake> no idea about samba, but a useable system, yes. [04:02] <Mech422> cool [04:02] <fake> though the target is not actively maintained atm [04:03] <fake> it might need a few fixes [04:03] <Mech422> yeah :-( I kinda got that impression from the project page [04:03] <fake> how that? [04:03] <Mech422> I'd eventually like to create a busybox/dietlibc/Ulibc based 'target' for stuff [04:04] <Mech422> oh - the dietlibc project page on rocklinux.org kinda sounded like it was a bit behind... [04:04] <fake> yes - the Status is totally outdated, building packages in stages > 2 is no problem anymore, iirc [04:05] <Mech422> yeah - I saw a blurb (on the main page? ) or someplace that seemed to inidicate dietlibc was a 'fully integrated' target now.. [04:05] <Mech422> so it was kinda confusing [04:06] blindcod1r (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-102-206.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [04:06] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-102-206.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [04:06] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [04:19] esden (~esden@dsl-082-082-102-206.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:35] <Mech422> hmm - is there any more documentation available for Rock then the stuff in the Docs dir, and the wiki linked from rocklinux.org ? [04:35] <Mech422> that handbook seems to be what I need... but its no longer available :-( [05:21] <fake> Mech422: the source - it's just a few shell scripts ;) [05:32] esden (~esden@port-212-202-125-114.static.qsc.de) joined #rocklinux. [05:33] <Mech422> Hmm - the rock iso fails to boot on my ICH5 motherboard... [05:33] <Mech422> (latest stable) [05:34] <Mech422> fails just after 'Host protected area'... [05:34] <Mech422> anyone know the kernel option to turn off SATA support ? [05:37] <esden> hi everyone [05:37] <Mech422> hi :-) [05:37] <esden> it is really cool that they have wlan on the airport here ;) [05:37] <Mech422> that is pretty sweet :-) [05:38] <esden> I could check the status of my rock crystal build ;) ... and realize that I started the build with the wrong configuration [05:38] <esden> but now it is running with the right one [05:38] <esden> by the time I am back from poland it ?should? be finished [05:38] <Mech422> Is crystall the unstable tree ? [05:38] <esden> yes ... [05:39] <esden> in the stable tree you have pseudo crystal [05:39] <esden> that is the generic build with package preselection that matches as good as possible the selection found in the real crystal target [05:40] <esden> ok ... I have to go boarding ;) [05:40] <esden> cu [05:40] <Mech422> bye! 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[13:09] <mnemoc> fake: openldap-2.2.19 was not flaged a "the most stable" as i expected and a 2.2.20 was released [13:10] SteffenP (steffen@pD9590CBB.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "https://www.bomberclone.de" [13:29] <netrunner> moin [13:30] <mnemoc> moin netrunner [13:31] Action: netrunner shaking th [13:33] tcr (~tcr@pD9EAA6C9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:49] <daja77> hi netrunner [13:49] <daja77> i met the guy who prevented you from scanning ^^ [14:05] <netrunner> :) [14:05] <netrunner> what's wrong with scanning? [14:51] kasc_ (kasc@dsl-213-023-204-057.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [15:01] kasc (kasc@dsl-213-023-191-179.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:01] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [15:11] <blindcoder> moin [15:33] <blindcoder> daja77: ping [15:34] treo (~xfman@Db079.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [15:35] <treo> sali [15:35] <blindcoder> hi treo [15:50] madtux (~mike@200.91.101.98) joined #rocklinux. [15:50] <madtux> hello. [16:00] <blindcoder> moin madtux [17:20] treo (~xfman@Db079.d.pppool.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:23] madtux (~mike@200.91.101.98) left irc: "leaving" [17:25] tcr (~tcr@pD9EAA6C9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:29] <mnemoc> blindcoder: thanks for the effort you are doing to document the event, it's great. [17:29] Action: tfing nods [22:42] BoS|jahr1sende (~BoS@dialin-212-144-017-180.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [22:54] BoS|jahresende (~BoS@dialin-145-254-078-021.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:01] Action: netrunner whishes everybody (who has not yet had it) a happy new year :) [23:02] Action: mnemoc still at the office :\ with 29C outside [23:02] <mnemoc> happy new year to you netrunner [23:05] <tcr> netrunner, How is that supposed to make sense? [23:06] <tcr> How could anyone have had the new year already? :) [23:08] <mnemoc> the family of netrunner's girl? 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