[00:03] <mnemoc> daja77: is it now complete enough for you?
[00:03] <netrunner> why is preconf not evaluated during Build-Target in import/cpan?
[00:04] <daja77> after my last patch, more or less
[00:04] <daja77> netrunner: you got t5hat patch you voted for applied?
[00:04] <netrunner> daja77: which one?
[00:04] <daja77> the kernel header patch
[00:05] <netrunner> you mean 2004123000161517399 ?
[00:05] <daja77> yes
[00:05] <netrunner> yes.
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[00:06] <daja77> it only worked by editing and after that it broke the package
[00:06] <netrunner> I was a bit confused because my tree here is once again messed up (several packages not under version control etc)
[00:07] <netrunner> but now I think I got it in and I built linux26-header and kdemultimedia (which failed before)
[00:07] <daja77> ic
[00:09] <netrunner> anybody here knows why I don't get preconf evaluated in cpan?
[00:10] <daja77> no idea
[00:11] <daja77> mnemoc: it will do for the purposes on two smaller machines
[00:11] <mnemoc> daja77: nice
[00:12] <daja77> i should bug clifford to explain the crystal strategie in more detail, as he did on congress
[00:13] <mnemoc> yes yes :)
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[00:22] <mnemoc>  * daja77 points and laughs at esden
[00:22] <mnemoc> :)
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[00:24] <daja77> mnemoc: join in ;)
[00:24] Action: netrunner laughs and points at esden
[00:24] <netrunner> :)
[00:24] <netrunner> damn, we have online logs ;)
[00:24] <daja77> :D
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[00:30] <owl> rofl. esden ;)
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[00:32] <esden___> owl?
[00:32] <esden___> ups
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[00:33] <esden> ok ... better now
[00:34] <daja77> wb esden 
[00:34] <esden> damn bittorrent ... I am uploading more then I am downloading ... that is unfair >_<
[00:35] <daja77> that's why you are verybody's darling :D
[00:37] Action: esden starts crying very loudly ... that is unfair!! I do not want to be everybody's darling! I want my films!!!
[00:38] Action: daja77 cuddles esden 
[00:38] <esden> thanks daja
[00:38] Action: netrunner pats esden
[00:39] <esden> gnarf
[00:42] Action: netrunner gives up for today. n8
[00:42] Action: daja77 waiting for cups update to compile
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[00:46] <owl> esden: because you're having trouble with your connection
[00:47] <esden> :P
[00:47] <esden> I hopefully fixed that
[00:47] <esden> now not using wlan but hardline
[00:47] <esden> that should make the difference
[01:01] <owl> hm. wlan. is there in ingolstadt a public place with access-points? 
[01:01] <owl> need to test something,... 
[01:01] <esden> there are plenty of them in the city center
[01:01] <esden> but do not ask me for addresses ... 
[01:02] <esden> these are some pub's ... you have to warwalk a bit ;)
[01:02] <owl> hm. k. that's bad then. 
[01:02] <owl> nah. wardrive maybe :p sitting in the car, the other person typing strange stuff into his notebook ;)
[01:03] <esden> hehe ... you will not be very successfull with that in ingolstadt
[01:03] <owl> why?
[01:03] <daja77> <- happy that i found th train station @ ingolstadt ...
[01:04] <esden> you can not wardrive in the pedestrian area
[01:04] <owl> *g* why this, daja77 ?
[01:04] <daja77> war walking
[01:04] <owl> hm. we'll see ;) 
[01:05] <daja77> brought someone from fake's party over ther
[01:05] <daja77> +e
[01:05] <owl> well... we just need to verify that this wlan-thingie at my bf's notebook is not working ... here i have not problems... and they're the same wlan-thingies... 
[01:05] <owl> hehe, ok :)
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[01:52] <mnemoc> daja77: i went away and i couldn't laught on esden :(
[01:53] <esden> hrm?
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[01:57] <mnemoc> hi esden 
[01:57] <esden> hi mnemoc 
[02:05] <owl> hi mnemoc 
[02:07] <mnemoc> hi owl 
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[08:31] <netrunne1> moin
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[11:50] <praenti> moin
[11:51] Action: netrunner kicking exim
[11:52] <netrunner> moin praenti
[11:53] <praenti> netrunner: why?
[11:53] Action: praenti don't like exim. postfix is more beautiful
[11:55] <netrunner> praenti: I once tried all. I managed to get tls working with exim. now I am stuck with it :)
[11:56] <praenti> netrunner: postfix is also easy to configure for tls. the only thing you must know, you need a additional patch for that
[11:57] <praenti> netrunner: why they don't integrate this patch, no idea...
[11:57] <netrunner> praenti: which is not in rock?
[11:57] <praenti> netrunner: yes. but perhaps this will change the next week
[11:57] <praenti> ;-)
[11:57] <praenti> today my minimal build must finish first
[11:59] <owl> moin
[12:05] <owl> hm. does the swsusp for 2.6.9patch also work for 2.6.10?
[13:06] <praenti> bash is terrible. why they cannot use unified diffs...
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[13:22] <treo> oweee
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[14:15] <praenti> ok. bash finished... ;-).
[14:16] <daja77> hm crystal without kde
[14:18] <netrunner> daja77: why? don't like it`:)
[14:18] <daja77> no it doesn't build without that not applying kernel patch ... 
[14:18] <netrunner> kdemultimedia, hm?
[14:19] <daja77> O_o qt did not build due missing mysql
[14:20] <daja77> *gnarf*
[14:26] <netrunner> daja77: well, if you select mysql, qt wants to use it.
[14:26] <netrunner> daja77: so deselect mysql and qt will build.
[14:26] <daja77> i did not select anything but the crystal target
[14:27] <netrunner> daja77: but then qt should not use mysql.
[14:27] <praenti> netrunner: that is a qt thing. we must add a button in the config menu for that which restults in an --without-mysql
[14:28] <daja77> or adding mysql to crystal
[14:28] <daja77> iirc that was prefered on congress
[14:28] <th> ack
[14:28] <praenti> yes or adding mysql to crystal
[14:28] <daja77> so I'll do that now
[14:29] <th> hmmm it's not in 21c3-bof-topics.txt
[14:29] <th> but i think we discussed and decided to add mysql
[14:29] <th> cause "everyone expects it when there is apache+php"
[14:30] <daja77> strange mysql is flagged as core
[14:30] <th> ahhh
[14:30] <th> yes exactly
[14:30] <th> we have both in crystal
[14:30] <netrunner>  pkginstalled mysql && var_append confopt " " "-plugin-sql-mysql
[14:30] <th> and we discussed and decided that it's ok this way
[14:30] <praenti> th: as i remember this was the argument
[14:30] <netrunner> that should only var_append if mysql is selected (in stages <9)
[14:31] <netrunner> and I have no mysql in my crystal and qt builds fine.
[14:32] <praenti> daja77: your build is strange *g*
[14:32] <daja77> no just found an .err for mysql ...
[14:32] Action: netrunner added the plugin-sql-mysql thing himself for mythtv once ... :)
[14:32] <netrunner> daja77: see :)
[14:33] <daja77> grr
[14:33] Action: praenti leaving
[14:33] <praenti> cu
[14:36] Action: daja77 trying stf patch for mysql
[14:37] <netrunner> phew, at least my exim is up again.
[14:47] <netrunner> ah, my crystal finished. now I can go home :)
[14:47] <daja77> :p
[14:47] <daja77> damn mysql is still broken
[14:47] <daja77> *sigh*
[14:48] <mnemoc> fix it *g*
[14:48] <daja77> no time atm
[14:52] Action: netrunner laying hands on mysql
[14:52] <netrunner> (building it into the finished crystal)
[14:52] <daja77> :)
[14:52] Action: daja77 back to learning
[14:53] <netrunner> daja77: in turn you could answer me a qemu question if you have a minute
[14:53] <daja77> why it doesn't buold what you want?
[14:54] <netrunner> daja77: no. simple usage. I created a disk image, booted a cd to install a system. but when the install thing needs a reboot, it cannot boot from the emulated harddisk
[14:55] <netrunner> daja77: I create the disk image with qemu-img bla.img 2G or so.
[14:55] <netrunner> it can partition, install and format it. just not boot it.
[14:55] <daja77> well it tries to reboot with the parameters you gave it, so it tries to bbot the cdrom again
[14:56] <netrunner> daja77: no, it tries to acces the harddisk, but says something like error reading from disk.
[14:57] <daja77> oh
[14:57] <netrunner> daja77: it also does not work if I do the reboot without the cdrom parameter, just the hda
[14:57] <daja77> the image is writeable?
[14:57] <netrunner> daja77: tried it with w2k, dos622 
[14:57] <netrunner> daja77: yes, it installs up to the point where it wants to reboot.
[14:58] <daja77> and you did proper fdisk and stuff?
[15:00] <netrunner> daja77: yes. in w2k it does it itself.
[15:00] <daja77> dunno
[15:00] <netrunner> daja77: maybe I'll ask you later, when I can tell you the exact message.
[15:00] <daja77> k.
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[15:15] <mnemoc_> *yawn* :)
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[15:25] <netrunner> daja77: mysql builds with the patch from submaster. be careful, it also contains a patch against linux26-header!
[15:26] <mnemoc> shouldn't that be /auto/-rejected by form?
[15:27] <daja77> netrunner: so i need to rebuild the headers first?
[15:27] <netrunner> daja77: exactly.
[15:28] <netrunner> mnemoc: it is explained in the text :)
[15:28] <daja77> just the headers or all kernel packages
[15:28] <mnemoc> ic
[15:28] <netrunner> daja77: headers should suffice.
[15:29] <netrunner> but I have not tried if those kernel patches affect compatibility with the kernel
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[15:45] <netrunner> good evening sir clifford
[15:47] <daja77> you are greeting the bot? ;-)
[15:49] <netrunner> bot? oh ...
[15:49] Action: netrunner taking back his greetings 
[15:50] <netrunner> ≥damn, I hope I get my bachelor-degree in feb, so I get more money in march.
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[16:15] <daja77> Creating binary package file for mysql.
[16:15] <daja77> ^^
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[16:24] <mnemoc> :)
[16:38] <netrunner> nice. even with my ~100 extra packages crystal fits on one cd
[16:42] <mnemoc> :D
[16:43] <netrunner> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0371724/
[16:47] <mnemoc> o_O
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[17:23] <daja77> you got the trailer?
[17:24] <mnemoc> yep
[17:24] <mnemoc> but... it didn't said much
[17:25] <daja77> how you downloaded it?
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[17:30] <mnemoc> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0371724/trailers-screenplay-X27203-10-2 <--- on firefox at windows
[17:30] <daja77> O_o
[17:31] <daja77> hm douglas adams younger sister has a role in that movie
[17:31] <mnemoc> :)
[17:33] <mnemoc> daja77: http://www.totaleclips.com/player/player.aspx?custid=102&clipid=X27203&bitrateid=10&playerid=33&formatid=2 <-- more direct
[17:33] <netrunner> hrmpf. my bootdisk is too old - it cannot handle packages with version numbers.
[17:33] <mnemoc> brb
[17:34] <ojh> COOL! A new HG2G Movie and a new Dr. Who series in 05 - I may start watching TV and movies again - :D
[17:37] <netrunner> anything against updating syslinux to 3.01?
[17:38] <daja77> http://www.movie-list.com/trailers.php?id=hitchhikersguidetothegalaxy that one works better ^^
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[20:10] <daja77> how can i flag cpan packages for core?
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[20:19] <mnemoc> .oO( /me thinks it's stupid to base a target on a flag )o
[20:21] <daja77> the flag is just to select from core and addons
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[20:26] <owl> huhu. 
[20:28] <nzg> moin
[20:29] <owl> hi nzg 
[21:51] <tfing> damn, got on ICE on openh323
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[23:19] <netrunner> lvm2 - stf's patch does not apply. I guess it's a problem of order...
[23:22] <daja77> the stf patches are incremental, so the challenge is to find the first match ;)
[23:24] <daja77> and i failed for linux26 package ;)
[23:42] <netrunner> damn, syslinux fails :(
[23:43] <netrunner> how I hate this. it is needed for the bootdisk, no?
[23:43] <daja77> erh yes
[23:45] <netrunner> so, moved to bed, babylon5-dvdset and laptop/wlan and limoncello.
[23:45] <netrunner> geek-position :)
[23:46] <daja77> hehe
[23:52] <netrunner> hm. bad idea to update syslinux.
[23:53] <_Lewellyn> mmm... limoncello...
[23:53] Action: _Lewellyn should finish his off tonite.
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