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[00:03] <mnemoc> daja77: is it now complete enough for you? [00:03] <netrunner> why is preconf not evaluated during Build-Target in import/cpan? [00:04] <daja77> after my last patch, more or less [00:04] <daja77> netrunner: you got t5hat patch you voted for applied? [00:04] <netrunner> daja77: which one? [00:04] <daja77> the kernel header patch [00:05] <netrunner> you mean 2004123000161517399 ? [00:05] <daja77> yes [00:05] <netrunner> yes. [00:05] esden (~esden@p508057BF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:06] <daja77> it only worked by editing and after that it broke the package [00:06] <netrunner> I was a bit confused because my tree here is once again messed up (several packages not under version control etc) [00:07] <netrunner> but now I think I got it in and I built linux26-header and kdemultimedia (which failed before) [00:07] <daja77> ic [00:09] <netrunner> anybody here knows why I don't get preconf evaluated in cpan? [00:10] <daja77> no idea [00:11] <daja77> mnemoc: it will do for the purposes on two smaller machines [00:11] <mnemoc> daja77: nice [00:12] <daja77> i should bug clifford to explain the crystal strategie in more detail, as he did on congress [00:13] <mnemoc> yes yes :) [00:13] esden_ (~esden@p50805CB6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:14] Action: daja77 points and laughs at esden [00:16] esden (~esden@p508059FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [00:22] <mnemoc> * daja77 points and laughs at esden [00:22] <mnemoc> :) [00:23] esden_ (~esden@p50804983.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [00:24] <daja77> mnemoc: join in ;) [00:24] Action: netrunner laughs and points at esden [00:24] <netrunner> :) [00:24] <netrunner> damn, we have online logs ;) [00:24] <daja77> :D [00:29] esden___ (~esden@p508042BB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [00:30] <owl> rofl. esden ;) [00:31] esden__ (~esden@p508054A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:32] tcr (~tcr@pD9EAA5A3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:32] <esden___> owl? [00:32] <esden___> ups [00:33] esden (~esden@p508059FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Nick collision from services. [00:33] Nick change: esden___ -> esden [00:33] <esden> ok ... better now [00:34] <daja77> wb esden [00:34] <esden> damn bittorrent ... I am uploading more then I am downloading ... that is unfair >_< [00:35] <daja77> that's why you are verybody's darling :D [00:37] Action: esden starts crying very loudly ... that is unfair!! I do not want to be everybody's darling! I want my films!!! [00:38] Action: daja77 cuddles esden [00:38] <esden> thanks daja [00:38] Action: netrunner pats esden [00:39] <esden> gnarf [00:42] Action: netrunner gives up for today. n8 [00:42] Action: daja77 waiting for cups update to compile [00:43] sycofly (~syco@218-101-48-224.cable.paradise.net.nz) joined #rocklinux. [00:43] esden_ (~esden@p50804983.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:46] <owl> esden: because you're having trouble with your connection [00:47] <esden> :P [00:47] <esden> I hopefully fixed that [00:47] <esden> now not using wlan but hardline [00:47] <esden> that should make the difference [01:01] <owl> hm. wlan. is there in ingolstadt a public place with access-points? [01:01] <owl> need to test something,... [01:01] <esden> there are plenty of them in the city center [01:01] <esden> but do not ask me for addresses ... [01:02] <esden> these are some pub's ... you have to warwalk a bit ;) [01:02] <owl> hm. k. that's bad then. [01:02] <owl> nah. wardrive maybe :p sitting in the car, the other person typing strange stuff into his notebook ;) [01:03] <esden> hehe ... you will not be very successfull with that in ingolstadt [01:03] <owl> why? [01:03] <daja77> <- happy that i found th train station @ ingolstadt ... [01:04] <esden> you can not wardrive in the pedestrian area [01:04] <owl> *g* why this, daja77 ? [01:04] <daja77> war walking [01:04] <owl> hm. we'll see ;) [01:05] <daja77> brought someone from fake's party over ther [01:05] <daja77> +e [01:05] <owl> well... we just need to verify that this wlan-thingie at my bf's notebook is not working ... here i have not problems... and they're the same wlan-thingies... [01:05] <owl> hehe, ok :) [01:29] sycofly (~syco@218-101-48-224.cable.paradise.net.nz) left #rocklinux ("Leaving"). [01:52] <mnemoc> daja77: i went away and i couldn't laught on esden :( [01:53] <esden> hrm? [01:53] treo (~xfman@D8d8f.d.pppool.de) left irc: "safe the Planet, kill yourself" [01:57] <mnemoc> hi esden [01:57] <esden> hi mnemoc [02:05] <owl> hi mnemoc [02:07] <mnemoc> hi owl [04:01] blindcod1r (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-094-103.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [04:01] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-102-014.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [04:02] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [05:18] ojh (~omer@65-103-65-193.eugn.qwest.net) joined #rocklinux. [05:31] esden (~esden@p508042BB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: [06:04] ojh (~omer@65-103-65-193.eugn.qwest.net) left #rocklinux. [08:30] netrunne1 (~andreas@pD9E8DB03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [08:31] <netrunne1> moin [08:38] netrunner (~andreas@pD9E8CF29.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:38] Nick change: netrunne1 -> netrunner [11:02] ringo (ringo78@xs2.xs4all.nl) joined #rocklinux. [11:50] <praenti> moin [11:51] Action: netrunner kicking exim [11:52] <netrunner> moin praenti [11:53] <praenti> netrunner: why? [11:53] Action: praenti don't like exim. postfix is more beautiful [11:55] <netrunner> praenti: I once tried all. I managed to get tls working with exim. now I am stuck with it :) [11:56] <praenti> netrunner: postfix is also easy to configure for tls. the only thing you must know, you need a additional patch for that [11:57] <praenti> netrunner: why they don't integrate this patch, no idea... [11:57] <netrunner> praenti: which is not in rock? [11:57] <praenti> netrunner: yes. but perhaps this will change the next week [11:57] <praenti> ;-) [11:57] <praenti> today my minimal build must finish first [11:59] <owl> moin [12:05] <owl> hm. does the swsusp for 2.6.9patch also work for 2.6.10? [13:06] <praenti> bash is terrible. why they cannot use unified diffs... [13:15] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EB359.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. 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[14:27] <praenti> netrunner: that is a qt thing. we must add a button in the config menu for that which restults in an --without-mysql [14:28] <daja77> or adding mysql to crystal [14:28] <daja77> iirc that was prefered on congress [14:28] <th> ack [14:28] <praenti> yes or adding mysql to crystal [14:28] <daja77> so I'll do that now [14:29] <th> hmmm it's not in 21c3-bof-topics.txt [14:29] <th> but i think we discussed and decided to add mysql [14:29] <th> cause "everyone expects it when there is apache+php" [14:30] <daja77> strange mysql is flagged as core [14:30] <th> ahhh [14:30] <th> yes exactly [14:30] <th> we have both in crystal [14:30] <netrunner> pkginstalled mysql && var_append confopt " " "-plugin-sql-mysql [14:30] <th> and we discussed and decided that it's ok this way [14:30] <praenti> th: as i remember this was the argument [14:30] <netrunner> that should only var_append if mysql is selected (in stages <9) [14:31] <netrunner> and I have no mysql in my crystal and qt builds fine. [14:32] <praenti> daja77: your build is strange *g* [14:32] <daja77> no just found an .err for mysql ... [14:32] Action: netrunner added the plugin-sql-mysql thing himself for mythtv once ... :) [14:32] <netrunner> daja77: see :) [14:33] <daja77> grr [14:33] Action: praenti leaving [14:33] <praenti> cu [14:36] Action: daja77 trying stf patch for mysql [14:37] <netrunner> phew, at least my exim is up again. [14:47] <netrunner> ah, my crystal finished. now I can go home :) [14:47] <daja77> :p [14:47] <daja77> damn mysql is still broken [14:47] <daja77> *sigh* [14:48] <mnemoc> fix it *g* [14:48] <daja77> no time atm [14:52] Action: netrunner laying hands on mysql [14:52] <netrunner> (building it into the finished crystal) [14:52] <daja77> :) [14:52] Action: daja77 back to learning [14:53] <netrunner> daja77: in turn you could answer me a qemu question if you have a minute [14:53] <daja77> why it doesn't buold what you want? [14:54] <netrunner> daja77: no. simple usage. I created a disk image, booted a cd to install a system. but when the install thing needs a reboot, it cannot boot from the emulated harddisk [14:55] <netrunner> daja77: I create the disk image with qemu-img bla.img 2G or so. [14:55] <netrunner> it can partition, install and format it. just not boot it. [14:55] <daja77> well it tries to reboot with the parameters you gave it, so it tries to bbot the cdrom again [14:56] <netrunner> daja77: no, it tries to acces the harddisk, but says something like error reading from disk. [14:57] <daja77> oh [14:57] <netrunner> daja77: it also does not work if I do the reboot without the cdrom parameter, just the hda [14:57] <daja77> the image is writeable? [14:57] <netrunner> daja77: tried it with w2k, dos622 [14:57] <netrunner> daja77: yes, it installs up to the point where it wants to reboot. [14:58] <daja77> and you did proper fdisk and stuff? [15:00] <netrunner> daja77: yes. in w2k it does it itself. [15:00] <daja77> dunno [15:00] <netrunner> daja77: maybe I'll ask you later, when I can tell you the exact message. [15:00] <daja77> k. [15:12] mnemoc_ (~amery@200.75.27.19) joined #rocklinux. [15:13] mnemoc (~amery@200.75.27.1) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:14] Action: netrunner wishes mnemoc a good morning [15:15] <mnemoc_> *yawn* :) [15:16] Nick change: mnemoc_ -> mnemoc [15:25] <netrunner> daja77: mysql builds with the patch from submaster. be careful, it also contains a patch against linux26-header! [15:26] <mnemoc> shouldn't that be /auto/-rejected by form? [15:27] <daja77> netrunner: so i need to rebuild the headers first? [15:27] <netrunner> daja77: exactly. [15:28] <netrunner> mnemoc: it is explained in the text :) [15:28] <daja77> just the headers or all kernel packages [15:28] <mnemoc> ic [15:28] <netrunner> daja77: headers should suffice. [15:29] <netrunner> but I have not tried if those kernel patches affect compatibility with the kernel [15:40] clifford (~clifford@213.229.1.138) joined #rocklinux. [15:45] <netrunner> good evening sir clifford [15:47] <daja77> you are greeting the bot? ;-) [15:49] <netrunner> bot? oh ... [15:49] Action: netrunner taking back his greetings [15:50] <netrunner> ³damn, I hope I get my bachelor-degree in feb, so I get more money in march. [15:59] catfather (~catfather@pandemonium.oucs.ox.ac.uk) left #rocklinux. [16:15] <daja77> Creating binary package file for mysql. [16:15] <daja77> ^^ [16:15] ringo (ringo78@xs2.xs4all.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:24] <mnemoc> :) [16:38] <netrunner> nice. even with my ~100 extra packages crystal fits on one cd [16:42] <mnemoc> :D [16:43] <netrunner> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0371724/ [16:47] <mnemoc> o_O [16:56] esden (~esden@p508042BB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [17:23] <daja77> you got the trailer? [17:24] <mnemoc> yep [17:24] <mnemoc> but... it didn't said much [17:25] <daja77> how you downloaded it? [17:26] ojh (~omer@209-181-59-225.eugn.qwest.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:30] <mnemoc> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0371724/trailers-screenplay-X27203-10-2 <--- on firefox at windows [17:30] <daja77> O_o [17:31] <daja77> hm douglas adams younger sister has a role in that movie [17:31] <mnemoc> :) [17:33] <mnemoc> daja77: https://www.totaleclips.com/player/player.aspx?custid=102&clipid=X27203&bitrateid=10&playerid=33&formatid=2 <-- more direct [17:33] <netrunner> hrmpf. my bootdisk is too old - it cannot handle packages with version numbers. [17:33] <mnemoc> brb [17:34] <ojh> COOL! A new HG2G Movie and a new Dr. Who series in 05 - I may start watching TV and movies again - :D [17:37] <netrunner> anything against updating syslinux to 3.01? [17:38] <daja77> https://www.movie-list.com/trailers.php?id=hitchhikersguidetothegalaxy that one works better ^^ [18:55] _Lewellyn (~mjl@lewellyn.silver.supporter.pdpc) joined #rocklinux. [19:28] tcr (~tcr@p5487994C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [19:34] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EB359.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:10] <daja77> how can i flag cpan packages for core? [20:18] ojh (~omer@209-181-59-225.eugn.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:19] <mnemoc> .oO( /me thinks it's stupid to base a target on a flag )o [20:21] <daja77> the flag is just to select from core and addons [20:25] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EB359.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [20:26] <owl> huhu. [20:28] <nzg> moin [20:29] <owl> hi nzg [21:51] <tfing> damn, got on ICE on openh323 [21:59] esden (~esden@p508042BB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:11] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EB359.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:11] tschmidt__ (~tschmidt@p508EB359.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [23:11] nzg (~nazgul@xchangecenter.de) joined #rocklinux. [23:14] tcr (~tcr@p5487994C.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:19] <netrunner> lvm2 - stf's patch does not apply. I guess it's a problem of order... [23:22] <daja77> the stf patches are incremental, so the challenge is to find the first match ;) [23:24] <daja77> and i failed for linux26 package ;) [23:42] <netrunner> damn, syslinux fails :( [23:43] <netrunner> how I hate this. it is needed for the bootdisk, no? [23:43] <daja77> erh yes [23:45] <netrunner> so, moved to bed, babylon5-dvdset and laptop/wlan and limoncello. [23:45] <netrunner> geek-position :) [23:46] <daja77> hehe [23:52] <netrunner> hm. bad idea to update syslinux. [23:53] <_Lewellyn> mmm... limoncello... [23:53] Action: _Lewellyn should finish his off tonite. [00:00] --- Wed Jan 5 2005