[00:14] <mnemoc> anyone knows if python-xml is a real package of a part of something? [03:05] <treo> gn8 [03:06] <mnemoc> gn8 treo [03:11] treo (~xfman@D88f7.d.pppool.de) left irc: "safe the Planet, kill yourself" [03:49] nookie (~nookie@M473P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [03:52] esden (~esden@p50804004.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [03:53] <esden> hi ho everyone [03:53] <esden> someone here? [03:54] <_Lewellyn> no [03:54] Action: _Lewellyn is about to head home [03:56] <mnemoc> i see dead^Wgeek people [03:58] <_Lewellyn> :) [03:58] Action: _Lewellyn waves [03:58] _Lewellyn (~mjl@lewellyn.silver.supporter.pdpc) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:59] <esden> humm ... ok ... [03:59] <esden> mnemoc: wanna see images of my vaporware? [04:02] <mnemoc> esden: sure [04:02] blindcod1r (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-094-246.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [04:02] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-094-103.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [04:02] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [04:04] <esden> www.esden.net/thc/gallery [04:04] <esden> if you do not know what it is read www.esden.net/thc [04:06] Action: mnemoc reading :p [04:07] <esden> do it mnemoc [04:07] <esden> do it [04:07] <mnemoc> :D [04:07] <mnemoc> looks very cool [04:08] <esden> thank you [04:09] <esden> what do you think of the idea? [04:09] <esden> sadly I had no better camera [04:09] <esden> only my cellphone :( [04:09] <esden> I hope that till the end of week I will have better images [04:10] <esden> and a nearly finished design [04:10] <esden> we will see [04:11] <mnemoc> yes, better pictures and a link to them on main page would be great :p [04:12] <mnemoc> the design seems very simple [04:12] <esden> it is very simple [04:12] <esden> it is the first time I make a design [04:12] <esden> so ... [04:13] <esden> but I have a good menthor [04:13] <mnemoc> :) [04:13] <esden> I think the idea is also pretty nice ... a portable game console that is fully open source [04:14] <esden> with an OLED display ... [04:14] <esden> that would be very nice I think [04:14] <esden> I will update the webpage soon [04:14] <esden> also with some mor information and links [04:15] <mnemoc> good [04:16] <mnemoc> more information an pictures means less vapor :) [04:17] <esden> I know [04:17] <esden> but I want to finish the first design before I put it online [04:21] <mnemoc> sure [05:02] <mnemoc> gn8 esden [05:02] <esden> gn8 mnemoc [07:20] hannes_ (ucbiv@rzstud3.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de) joined #rocklinux. [08:30] netrunne1 (~andreas@pD9E8D392.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [08:39] netrunner (~andreas@pD9E8DB03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:39] Nick change: netrunne1 -> netrunner [08:52] <fake> goood morning! [08:53] <dsoul> moin fake :) [09:00] tschmidt_ (~tschmidt@p508EB40A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [09:08] tschmidt__ (~tschmidt@p508EB359.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:24] <netrunner> moin * [09:26] <netrunner> syslinux still fails :( [09:26] <netrunner> I don't know if it is because we patch the kernel headers or because they are still broken [09:27] <netrunner> ah, no. it's not syslinux, it's iproute2, sorry. [09:27] <netrunner> and kiss [09:27] <netrunner> (for bootdisk) [09:29] <fake> netrunner: syslinux 3.01 is out [09:30] <fake> http://pilot.org.ua/etcnet/ [09:39] <dsoul> moin netrunner :) [09:53] Action: fake fixing up reference build [09:53] <fake> prepare for apply woe today ;) [10:02] <esden> good morning fake, netrunner, dsoul and others that may be awake too [10:02] <esden> or still [10:02] <esden> like me ;) [10:05] <fake> esden: just out of pure interest, was there any comment from your employer? [10:06] <esden> they are not here yet ... they will be back by tomorrow or so [10:07] <esden> their first vacation since 5 years as I realized some days ago ;) [10:12] <dsoul> moin esden :) [10:17] <esden> brrrrrrr it is cold outside! [10:20] <fake> ack [10:28] <th> blindcoder: ping [10:29] <th> blindcoder: is rl.org>Doc>Howto>submitting dynamically from the wiki? [10:31] <fake> hi th [10:31] <th> jo hi [10:32] <th> fake: does trunk's ./scripts/Help contain documentation about Emerge-Pkg? [10:32] <fake> th: nope [10:33] <th> fake: do you think it would help if i file a bug at flyspray? [10:34] <fake> th: i think a patch would be of much more help ;) [10:35] <th> sure - without the slightest doubt. [10:35] <th> but you known - that did not answer my question ;> [10:36] tschmidt_ (~tschmidt@p508EB40A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Verlassend" [10:37] <fake> it does. of much 'more' help -> more help than just a bug in flyspray ;) [10:37] <fake> but more of nothing would still be nothing... [10:37] <fake> ;p [10:37] <th> more than nothing is not nothing [10:38] <th> "more" is additiv. [10:39] <fake> if you get french fries without ketchup, you don't say 'i want more ketchup', you'd say 'i want ketchup' [10:39] <th> no. [10:39] <th> i'd say "thanks" [10:39] <fake> grrr... ;( [10:39] <fake> ;)) [10:39] <th> i like them plain. [10:40] <fake> damn, wrong example [10:40] <th> exactly [10:41] <fake> th: is kde at 3.3.2 in stable? [10:41] <th> [V] 3.2.3 [10:44] <fake> the security patch i sent this morning is also for 3.2.3 [10:45] <th> CAN-2004-1165 hmmm [10:46] <th> does it apply to kdelibs-3.2.3? [10:47] <fake> th: i have no way of testing that [10:48] <th> ok [10:48] <th> i'll take care of it. [10:48] <th> i'd love to have a flag in submaster which marks patches relevant to stable [10:48] <th> and if set mailed to me directly ;> [10:49] <fake> th: and automatically test-built and applied? ;-) [10:50] <th> ...and automatically release a bugfix release [10:58] <th> fake: what openldap version would you like to have in stable? [10:58] <th> current: [V] 2.1.27 [11:00] <fake> 2.2.17 [11:01] <fake> it's denoted stable on the openvpn page [11:01] Action: th hands a "s,vpn,ldap," to fake. [11:07] <fake> huh? [11:07] <fake> oh, 2.0.0-rc6 [11:07] <fake> but that would be newer than trunk ;) [11:10] <fake> though i didn't see a 'vpn' anywhere... [11:10] <th> 11:00:38 < fake> it's denoted stable on the openvpn page [11:11] <th> 11:00:38 < fake> it's denoted stable on the open>>>vpn<<< page [11:13] <fake> argh [11:13] <fake> nevermind [11:13] <fake> i was just checking openvpn [11:15] <th> but 2.2.17 is your answer to my openldap question? [11:15] <fake> yes. [11:17] <th> ok [11:17] <th> scheduled for next refbuild [11:19] <th> hmm is it possible to have a binary mirror via sf.net? [11:22] <fake> th: no idea... [11:22] <th> would be great [11:23] <fake> i'm not so sure sf.net thinks about that the same way... [11:24] <th> i guess the traffic would be tiny compared to what they have [11:25] <fake> but mirroring _binary_ packages via _source_forge... ? ;-) [11:27] <th> yea [11:27] <th> ;> [11:37] nookie_ (~nookie@M219P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [11:46] nookie (~nookie@M473P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:48] tcr (~tcr@pD9EAB62F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [11:57] <daja77> hi fake & th [12:13] tcr (~tcr@pD9EAB62F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:11] <praenti> hi [13:11] <praenti> fake: are you still here= [13:11] <praenti> ? [13:11] <praenti> fake: have you already sucessful build xorg on your G3? [13:12] <fake> sure [13:12] <fake> xorg currently fails [13:12] <fake> wnat to debug it? [13:12] <fake> it;s a freetype problem [13:12] <praenti> interesting. the problem on my iBook is an illegal instruction which perhaps comes from freetype. [13:13] <fake> exactly. [13:13] <praenti> argl. so I must write some lines to both projects. [13:13] <fake> praenti: you could try downgrading freetype [13:14] <praenti> fake: thats an idea ;-) [13:14] <praenti> but doesn't resolve the original problem... [13:15] <fake> praenti: clifford and i investigated the problem a bit, but to no avail yet. [13:15] <praenti> ok [13:27] <th> hi praenti [13:28] <th> praenti: found your openmotif update patch in sm. [13:28] <th> praenti: any additional information on that? [13:29] <th> praenti: did it build? should i do a stable testbuild? [13:35] <netrunner> hm. rxr still leading my irssistats :) [13:36] <netrunner> oh, wrong year. [13:36] <netrunner> hey, I am first :) [13:36] <th> url? [13:37] <th> fake: can we merge kaffeine to stable? [13:38] <netrunner> http://andreas.anvame.net/content/rocklinux/irssistats/index.html [13:38] <fake> th: no idea. it's not a big package, you could try and emerge it first [13:38] <th> fake: ok. scheduled. [13:38] <th> fake: what about (codecs)-dependencies for mplayer/xine in crystal? you only tagged mplayer and xine itself [13:39] <fake> 687 Zeilen (0 Tage) verarbeitet in 0 Sekunden [13:39] <fake> th: that's clifford's todo ;P [13:40] <fake> a lot of codecs are already in crystal [13:40] <th> ok [13:40] <th> but i guess it was SMP's todo? [13:41] <fake> yes [13:41] <fake> right [13:43] <netrunner> fake: I tried updating syslinux to 3.01 but it failed also. [13:43] <netrunner> s/also// [13:43] <fake> :( [13:44] <netrunner> I wonder more about iproute2 because it is needeed for the bootdisk [13:44] <netrunner> fake: do you have a second to tell me what to do if I up you the iproute2.err? [13:44] <fake> netrunner: wait a second... [13:45] <fake> netrunner: gawk and ltrace failed for me, so, go ahead, what's the error? [13:45] <netrunner> /usr/include/linux/byteorder/little_endian.h:69: error: parse error before "__cp [13:45] <netrunner> u_to_le64p" [13:46] <netrunner> /usr/include/linux/byteorder/little_endian.h: In function `__cpu_to_le64p': [13:46] <netrunner> /usr/include/linux/byteorder/little_endian.h:71: error: `__le64' undeclared (fir [13:46] <netrunner> st use in this function) [13:46] <fake> well, it says what's wrong [13:46] <netrunner> must be a kernel header problem. but I don't understand it. __le64 is declared in types.h, which is included before the line in question. [13:47] <fake> have a look at package/base/linux/linux26/arch-ppc-asm_byteorder-ansi-c.patch [13:47] <fake> iirc [13:47] <fake> nah [13:47] <praenti> th: a testbuild should be done first. i did not make it the standard selection at the moment because then it should move into the x11 repository [13:48] <praenti> th: so for the moment you should include the package with the config.in mechanism [13:48] <fake> netrunner: that's nonsense i told you [13:48] <fake> netrunner: is this a linux 2.6.10 build? [13:49] <netrunner> fake: yes. and I got the stf patch for types.h. [13:50] <fake> netrunner: linux 2.6.10 will be the next thing i'll check. [13:50] <fake> now that all the other stuff is applied [13:50] <netrunner> fake: thx. maybe I'll do a sm recreate and rebuild the bootdisk. [14:00] <fake> cool [14:00] <tfing> what's the trick to make Build-Target rebuild the updated packages ? apart from removing the log files [14:00] <fake> ./scripts/Create-ErrList -remove <package name> [14:01] <netrunner> scripts/Create-ErrList -newdelete -cfg <foo> [14:01] <tfing> nothing without providing the packages to remove ? [14:01] <netrunner> should do it. last time I tried it it wanted to build everything. good that there is a -dry-run option. [14:01] <fake> ... see netrunner's lkine [14:02] <tfing> ok, thx [14:02] <netrunner> tfing: use it with -dry-run first. [14:05] <tfing> it's been a long time since i hadn't done any build for a lack of hardware [14:06] <daja77> fake: do you know how to flag a cpan package as core? [14:06] <fake> daja77: yes. like net::snmp does it [14:06] <fake> oh wait [14:06] <daja77> we need XML::Parser for gimp ... [14:07] <fake> XML::Parser CORE [14:07] <th> fake: kaffeine: [14:07] <th> checking if UIC has KDE plugins available... no [14:07] <fake> just write the flag behind the line in hosted_cpan.txt and re-run hosted_cpan.pl [14:07] <th> configure: error: you need to install kdelibs first. [14:07] <fake> daja77: really?? [14:08] <daja77> yep 2.2.1 failed due missing XML::Parser [14:08] <fake> daja77: in the just-commited reference build, it worked without! [14:08] <fake> err... [14:08] <fake> forget what i just said. [14:08] <fake> th: maybe it's no kaffeine in stable then... [14:08] <th> fake: hmm. that's bad for crystal-emu [14:09] <th> fake: i'd like to have it [14:09] <daja77> only 3 errors in latest crystal build ;) [14:09] <fake> th: then.. do... something? [14:09] <daja77> update kde ... [14:09] <fake> to have kaffeine? [14:09] <th> args [14:09] <th> fake: i guess he's joking [14:09] <daja77> not only for that ... [14:09] <th> i HOPE he's joking [14:10] <daja77> .oO (everytime i tell the kde people that i use 3.2.3 i get laughed at) [14:10] <th> hmmm [14:11] <daja77> imap in kmail is severly broken e.g. [14:11] <th> hmmm [14:11] <daja77> erh disconnected imap that is [14:11] <th> well - we even consider xorg for stable. [14:11] <daja77> :D [14:12] <th> kaffeine config.log is in my people dir [14:12] <th> http://www.rocklinux.net/people/teha/config.log [14:14] <th> if anyone has a clue... [14:16] <daja77> hm writing CORE after the package did not work somehow [14:16] <fake> huh?? [14:16] <fake> it should [14:17] <fake> did you re-run hosted cpan? [14:17] <fake> grep for CORE in package/import/cpan [14:17] <daja77> no match [14:20] <daja77> guess i can only flag the whole cpan as core .. [14:21] <fake> no! [14:21] <fake> is your tree up to date? [14:21] <th> fake: are there any guesses about timeline for 2.1 stable tree? [14:21] <netrunner> daja77: can't you put the [F] CORE in the hosted_cpan.desc after the package? [14:22] <fake> i *know* it's possible to flag single packages [14:22] <fake> no!! [14:22] <fake> that doesn't work [14:23] <daja77> fake: sure i don'tw ant to flag the whole cpan as core, and yes i think it is up2date [14:23] <fake> daja77: i just tried it [14:23] <daja77> and it works? [14:23] <fake> daja77: added "CORE" adter XML::Parser in hosted_cpan.txt, re-ran hosted_cpan.pl, and got: [14:23] <fake> hosted_cpan.cfg:pkgfork cpan cpan-xml-parser status X priority 139.000 flag CORE [14:24] <fake> instead of hosted_cpan.cfg:pkgfork cpan cpan-xml-parser status X priority 139.000 [14:24] <daja77> ah forgot that rerun part [14:24] <fake> argh! ;-) [14:25] <daja77> <- had no idea how import packages work ... [14:33] <daja77> .oO (apart from the fact that i consider XML::Parser as crap) [14:36] <blindcoder> moin [14:36] <blindcoder> mb= [14:36] <blindcoder> th: nope [14:37] <th> blindcoder: could you quote me for that nope? [14:37] <th> blindcoder: ahh that was the wiki vs. rl.org question? [14:37] <blindcoder> 10:27 #rocklinux: < th> blindcoder: is rl.org>Doc>Howto>submitting dynamically from the wiki? [14:38] Action: blindcoder currently encoding the bof video from dvd-quality to xvid [14:38] <blindcoder> expected size: 650 MB [14:38] <blindcoder> ETA: 70 min [14:38] <th> directors cut? [14:38] <blindcoder> no, not yet :) [14:39] <blindcoder> that will be the super extended version where I manually reconstruct the missing pieces from /dev/random and a screwdriver [14:39] <th> cool [14:40] <daja77> add the scene where luke skywalker was made! [14:40] <blindcoder> from a piece of clay? [14:41] <daja77> hm [14:52] kasc_ (kasc@dsl-213-023-198-007.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [15:00] <blindcoder> clifford: maybe you should feed the mailinglists to the lurker _after_ a spam check :) [15:01] <daja77> nice gimp built now [15:02] <tfing> could someone with a typo3 account remove the 'height="90%"' on the webpages which makes a horrible layout ? [15:03] <clifford> blindcoder: This "Viagra - #1 sex drug" mails are sent directly to lurker - not to the mailing list.. [15:04] kasc (kasc@dsl-082-083-046-147.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Connection timed out [15:04] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [15:04] <daja77> otherwise they would be blocked because the spammers are not subscribed ;-) [15:06] <blindcoder> clifford: ah, I see [15:07] <th> why is it possible to send mails directly to lurker? [15:09] <netrunner> blindcoder: don't you know how to use a spam filter? I never saw one of these :) [15:09] <netrunner> oh ... lurker is the archive ... forget what I said :) [15:10] Action: netrunner running to the airport [15:10] <blindcoder> netrunner: good boy. run :) [15:14] <clifford> tfing: done. I think I'm blind now.. [15:15] Action: clifford was staring into typo3 too long.. ;-) [15:15] <clifford> will need some time until the static pages are updated again by the cron job.. [15:16] <tfing> clifford: thanks, that's better [15:22] esden (~esden@p50804004.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:26] treo (~xfman@Daa5d.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [15:26] <treo> hi [16:09] Freak ([U2FsdGVkX@helena.bawue.de) got netsplit. [16:09] Freak ([U2FsdGVkX@helena.bawue.de) returned to #rocklinux. [16:37] <praenti> blindcoder: whats wrong with your mobile phone? [16:37] <praenti> i cannot reach you since monday [16:37] <netrunner> praenti: you know, some phones can block incoming calls based on their calling number ... [16:38] <praenti> netrunner: ;-) [16:47] <praenti> argl. standard bootdisk oopses (2.6.9) also on my k6. same effect on my athlon tb [16:47] <praenti> look like ide-part or shortly after. (it is too fast to see it...) [16:47] <netrunner> I'll experience it tonight :) [16:47] <daja77> only did that in qemu for me [16:49] Action: praenti taking a shower to cool down [16:55] <blindcoder> 744M Jan 5 16:54 bof_21c3.avi [16:56] <th> blindcoder: cool. should we upload it to iso.rl.de? [16:57] <mnemoc> blindcoder: how complete it is? [16:58] <blindcoder> complete as in complete [16:58] <blindcoder> th: either that or I'd have set up a torrent [16:59] <blindcoder> no subtitles yet, though [16:59] <th> blindcoder: guess you wouldn't find enough seeders again? [16:59] <blindcoder> yes, but there's hope that more than one people would download it [16:59] <blindcoder> well, I don't care either way [17:00] <blindcoder> s/people/person/ [17:01] <tfing> the bof was held in german ? [17:01] <blindcoder> yes [17:01] <mnemoc> subtitles? :p [17:01] <blindcoder> that's why I intend to subtitle it. the video is incomplete, also [17:01] <blindcoder> mainly because I didn't have enough disk space available [17:02] <blindcoder> and partly because I didn't know how to handle the cam [17:02] <mnemoc> <blindcoder> complete as in complete <blindcoder> [..] the video is incomplete, also <--- conflict [17:02] <tfing> mnemoc is about to segfault [17:02] nzg (~nazgul@xchangecenter.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:02] <blindcoder> mnemoc: complete as in completely encoded [17:03] <blindcoder> mnemoc: incomplete as in not the whole bof was recorded [17:03] <mnemoc> :\ [17:03] <daja77> the fights are cut out ;-) [17:03] <mnemoc> ehehe [17:03] <blindcoder> mnemoc: the raw dv data has ~20GB if that's what you want :) [17:03] <mnemoc> no thanks [17:04] <mnemoc> compression is a good thing [17:06] <blindcoder> (dv data feels like the xpm of video...) [17:07] <fake> tonight, 22:10 @rtl2: 24, season3 - watch it! [17:07] <blindcoder> I still don't know what 24 is all about... [17:08] <fake> just watch it. [17:09] <blindcoder> guess I'll start subbing the video instead. or play FFIX, now that I finally reached CD 3 [17:09] <fake> you're missing the best series ever [17:10] <blindcoder> that's a cross I'm willing to bear :) [17:11] <blindcoder> okay, gotta go, buy a few things [17:11] <blindcoder> bye [17:11] <fake> cya [17:36] praenti_ (~praenti@mail.obster.org) joined #rocklinux. [17:36] praenti (~praenti@mail.obster.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:37] praenti_ (~praenti@mail.obster.org) left irc: Client Quit [17:37] tfing (~tfing@devnull.roulaize.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:37] tfing (~tfing@devnull.roulaize.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:38] <link_> i search a free sms gateway software. can someone give me a hint? 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[20:45] mnemoc (~amery@200.75.27.19) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:09] tcr_ (~tcr@pD9EABA88.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:10] <SerWou> hello the chan [21:10] <SerWou> got a little problem [21:10] <SerWou> Fatal server error: [21:10] <SerWou> xf86OpenConsole: Server must be suid root [21:42] <netrunner> SerWou: chmod +x `which X` [21:43] <fake> chmod +s he means [21:43] <netrunner> oh :) true. [21:43] <daja77> .oO (!add daja-todo fix kdemultimedia tomorrow) [21:44] <SerWou> ok thanks guys [22:09] <netrunner> daja77: kdemultimedia built fine here ... with those patches. [22:10] <netrunner> I would like to hear about iproute2 :/ [00:00] --- Thu Jan 6 2005