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[00:26] <praenti> fake: freetype issue is not solved, but I have found a workaround to get a working freetype on powerpc [00:26] <praenti> please see my patch in submaster [00:26] <praenti> cu and gn8 [00:29] <praenti> but xorg still not compile. something want to remove /usr/X11... [00:46] <owl> sigh. moin. ... [01:02] nookie (~nookie@M228P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:02] nookie (~nookie@M228P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [01:40] <treo> gn8 [01:42] treo (~xfman@Daa5d.d.pppool.de) left irc: "safe the Planet, kill yourself" [03:53] nookie_ (~nookie@M479P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [04:00] nookie (~nookie@M228P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:00] sparc-kly (~sparc@64.237.130.154) joined #rocklinux. [04:01] blindcod1r (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-102-227.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [04:02] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-094-246.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [04:02] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [05:06] ojh (~omer@65-103-68-83.eugn.qwest.net) joined #rocklinux. [07:22] ojh (~omer@65-103-68-83.eugn.qwest.net) left #rocklinux. [08:34] esden (~esden@p50804DDE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [08:34] <esden> morning everyone [08:36] <esden> strange ... noone is at the office ... [08:36] <esden> have I missed something? [08:46] <esden> morning netrunner ;) [08:46] netrunne1 (~andreas@pD9E8D3E7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [08:46] <esden> morning netrunner [08:52] netrunner (~andreas@pD9E8D392.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:52] Nick change: netrunne1 -> netrunner [09:14] <daja77> esden: 3 königstag perhaps? [09:19] <esden> ohh ... ok ... right ... now I understand [09:19] Action: esden hungry ... [09:47] <blindcoder> moin [09:47] <blindcoder> esden: you're at work today o_O [09:53] <esden> blindcoder: I am all the time at work ... [09:54] <esden> also when I am sleeping ... as you know ;) [09:54] <daja77> he is typing while bein asleep too ... [09:54] Action: esden working currently at the thc design [09:55] <esden> daja77: that is new to me ;) [09:55] <daja77> have you slept at all @ congress? [09:55] <esden> yes I have ... ask blindcoder ;) [09:56] <esden> ahh ... blindcoder ... I have something for you ;) [09:56] <esden> www.esden.net/thc/gallery [09:57] <blindcoder> *click* [09:58] <blindcoder> esden: could you _please_ hold still when taking pictures? I'm getting seasick [09:58] <daja77> hehe [09:58] <daja77> he is too nervous for that [09:58] <esden> sorry ... that is not me ... but the camera ... I had only my cellphone for taking pictures >_< [09:59] <blindcoder> *ARGH* [10:00] <esden> my camera is broken ... and the one that I normally use is in africa ... or somewhere between africa and europe ... or back at europe ... but not in the office ... [10:00] <esden> all in all ... I do not have noting better then my cellphone >_< [10:00] <daja77> africa? [10:00] <esden> the first time the cellphone camera was useful in any way [10:01] <esden> yes daja ... correct [10:02] <esden> my chef took the camera with him on vacation [10:02] <daja77> ic [10:02] <blindcoder> th: ping [10:03] <esden> blindcoder: you have nothing to tell me beside the fact that the pictures are baaad ... (what I already know) ... [10:03] <esden> right? [10:03] nookie_ (~nookie@M479P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:03] nookie (~nookie@M479P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [10:04] <blindcoder> esden: right :D [10:04] <blindcoder> no, really: looks great [10:04] <blindcoder> and your stuff is awaiting retrieval at my parents1 [10:04] <blindcoder> s/1/'/ [10:04] <esden> wait till you see the finished thing ... you will fall of your seat ;) [10:05] <esden> blindcoder: thank you very much [10:05] <esden> I already have someone that will write a demo for that ... [10:05] <esden> apropos demo ... you wanna see something amazing in that area? [10:05] <esden> an ngage demo? [10:05] <esden> that thing was amazing [10:10] <esden> humm ... [10:10] <blindcoder> have no ngage [10:10] <esden> you do not need one [10:10] <esden> I have a video [10:11] <esden> see ... /msg [10:12] <esden> what is most importaint ... it was made by polish people ... go poland go go go ;) [10:16] <blindcoder> nice [10:17] <blindcoder> hrm... [10:17] <blindcoder> according to my calculation I have 700 EUR to spend this month [10:17] <blindcoder> guess I'll go shopping now :D [10:18] <esden> lol [10:18] <esden> nice statistics for december blindcoder [10:19] <esden> I think it would be nice to see such an email every month ;) [10:19] <esden> *gnarf* ;) [10:19] <blindcoder> ehm... [10:19] <blindcoder> this mail is sent monthly since october [10:54] <netrunner> https://andreas.anvame.net/content/download/5-iproute2.err [10:55] <netrunner> can anyone tell me how to fix it` [10:55] <netrunner> It is something with the kernel-header thing. But I don't see what to do. [10:55] <blindcoder> don't ask me about kernel headers, no idea :( [10:56] <blindcoder> netrunner: btw, you have looked into the over-optimisation thing? [10:56] <netrunner> blindcoder: not yet, I only heard something was discussed about it. [10:57] <blindcoder> netrunner: yes. can you tell me, which optimisations (apart from the well-known P4) cause troubles? [10:57] <blindcoder> -march -mcpu combos? [11:00] <blindcoder> okay, I'm off for shopping now [11:00] <blindcoder> bye [11:11] <netrunner> blindcoder: athlon-mp at least. [11:23] <praenti> moin [11:24] <praenti> netrunner: which kernel version? [11:25] <netrunner> praenti: 2.6.10 [11:25] <netrunner> kiss fails too, if you want to see. [11:26] <netrunner> https://andreas.anvame.net/content/download/5-kiss.err [11:26] <praenti> don't know whats wrong there exactly, but try this patching seen here: https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2004102318422703997 [11:27] <praenti> it has s.th. to do with some undeclared type in the asm/byteorder.h [11:28] Action: praenti away for lunch [11:51] <esden> o_O [11:51] nookie (~nookie@M479P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:52] Action: esden is somehow not up to date >_< [11:52] <esden> hi praenti [11:53] nookie (~nookie@M308P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [12:16] <netrunner> praenti: does not help. [12:18] treo (~xfman@Dbf4f.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [12:18] <treo> sali [12:30] <praenti> netrunner: shit. [12:32] <netrunner> hm? size 230G, used 223G, Avail 0 ??? [12:54] <treo> brb [12:54] treo (~xfman@Dbf4f.d.pppool.de) left irc: "safe the Planet, kill yourself" [12:57] Action: esden hates searching for datasheets ... [12:58] <esden> I always land on some japanese or korean sites ... where all pdf contains characters that even acrobat reader can not read!!! >_< [12:58] sparc-kly (~sparc@64.237.130.154) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:00] treo (~xfman@Dbf4f.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [13:06] <blindcoder> back [13:08] treo (~xfman@Dbf4f.d.pppool.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:08] treo (~xfman@Dbf4f.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [13:10] <th> blindcoder: pong [13:11] <blindcoder> th: already got the video? [13:14] <th> blindcoder: nope [13:14] <th> blindcoder: started the transfer now. [13:15] <blindcoder> why not? [13:15] <blindcoder> okay [13:15] <th> i already have 0% [13:15] <blindcoder> then I'll make lunch now due to decreased bandwidth :) [13:15] <th> hehe yea [14:00] <daja77> re [14:00] <netrunner> df -h [14:00] <netrunner> 1) check the terminal, 2) type [14:01] <netrunner> 3) check again 4) press enter [14:01] <netrunner> :) [14:30] <th> 5) say sorry cause you messed it up again. [14:30] <th> blindcoder: 25% ETA 3:44 [14:32] <treo> bye [14:32] treo (~xfman@Dbf4f.d.pppool.de) left irc: "safe the Planet, kill yourself" [14:47] kasc (kasc@dsl-213-023-198-007.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:51] kasc (kasc@dsl-082-083-047-139.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [15:17] <daja77> blindcoder: ? [15:38] <blindcoder> daja77: ! [15:39] <daja77> guess i found a seeder for the bof video [15:40] <blindcoder> daja77: who? [15:40] <daja77> fellow student of mine [15:40] <esden> *sigh* ... ok ... thc supports three different displays ... [15:40] <esden> my god ... that are many wires to route [15:41] Action: daja77 wants a game [15:41] <esden> daja77: then write one ;) [15:41] <blindcoder> daja77: thanks, th is currently uploading the video to iso.rocklinux.de. maybe we can come back to him with the next bunch of isos? [15:41] <daja77> k. [15:41] <daja77> esden: i guessed that answer ... [15:42] <esden> daja77: why not? [15:42] <daja77> pong would be a good start eh [15:42] <esden> I will write that one ... do not worry [15:42] <daja77> hehe [15:42] <esden> with bluetooth support ;) [15:42] <esden> maximal 4 players ;) [15:42] <daja77> are there apis? [15:43] <esden> there will be [15:43] <daja77> erh ic [15:43] <esden> but I have already a lot of c source code that I can use as base for the api of thc [15:44] <esden> I have already 21k lines code for that microcontroller I use ... I hope that is enough to start with ;) [15:44] <daja77> lemme think, pong, space invaders, breakout, tetris ;-) [15:44] <esden> ack [15:44] <esden> what else? [15:44] <daja77> sth to shoot [15:45] <esden> I hope someone writes a jump and run for it ... [15:45] <esden> ala super mario or so [15:45] <daja77> ah yeah [15:45] <daja77> commander keen [15:45] <esden> to shoot? ... scorch would be nice [15:45] <daja77> don't know that [15:46] <esden> scorched earch ... that game where you shoot at other tanks using balistics [15:46] <daja77> aaah [15:46] <daja77> i meant sth where you have to shoot everything what's in your way [15:47] <esden> but I think that some games we mentioned will be only possible on the big lcd display [15:48] <daja77> .oO (a bluetooth sniffing device cloaked as handheld game) [15:48] <esden> it is 130x128 [15:48] <daja77> how much is the hw btw? [15:48] <esden> hehe ... one could write such an app I think [15:48] <esden> how much what? [15:48] <daja77> in euro [15:48] <esden> dunno [15:49] <daja77> O_o [15:49] <esden> have not calculated exactly yet [15:49] <daja77> you built that thing [15:49] <daja77> ic [15:49] <esden> i have not ... it is still on the design board [15:49] <esden> I am still designing the pcb [15:49] <esden> since monday >_< [15:50] <esden> it is pretty much work ... even when the idea is pretty simple ... [15:50] Action: daja77 prepared his exam for today since sunday ^^ [15:50] <esden> I think I prefere routing thousends of wires then preparing for an exam ... ;) [15:51] <esden> poor daja77 [15:51] <daja77> i succeeded [15:51] <esden> good for you ... congrats [15:52] <daja77> thx [15:57] <daja77> now i somehow feel damn tired [17:40] nookie_ (~nookie@M303P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [17:49] nookie (~nookie@M308P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:27] nzg (~tschmidt@xchangecenter.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:57] <esden> *sigh* ... only blinkenled connector left ... [18:57] <esden> my god ... that is more difficult then I thought >_< [19:33] AS (~AS@pD95FCFD9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [19:33] <AS> Hi. [19:34] <daja77> hi as [19:35] <AS> I'm trying to install Rock Linux now... I think it's the right distribution for me... I've tryed FreeBSD, NetBSD, SuSE, Slackware, Gentoo, LFS, ... [19:37] <AS> there's a package manager, who downloads and installs a package and it's dependencies, isn't there? [19:53] <netrunner> AS: rocklinux is not a distribution. it's a toolkit with which you can build yourself a distribution [19:56] <AS> ok, to build my own distribution with Rock Linux, I use the Config Download and Build Scripts... When I have finished building it and booting into my new Distribution, is there a package manager available? I read something about rocket? [20:00] <netrunner> yes, I also heard about it. I never tried it. [20:04] <fake> AS: yes, there is. though it's your job to provide binary package repositories for your distribution [20:04] <fake> AS: futhermore, binary package dependencies are not enforced (yet) [20:05] <fake> AS: this is one of the topics we want to improve before the 3.0 release [20:06] <AS> I don't want to use binary packages. I want to build my packages from source, so I don't need binary package support. [20:11] <netrunner> AS: just building the package is done by the rock tools. [20:11] <netrunner> AS: you can use them to install a new package in your / [20:18] <AS> oh, ok. [20:22] <esden> puuuuuuhhhhhhhhh [20:22] Action: esden finished adding the display connectors ... [20:25] <fake> AS: rocket install ~= apt-get install, rocket emerge ~= emerge... [20:27] <blindcoder> hi hi and rehi [20:28] <blindcoder> AS: https://scavenger.homeip.net/rockdoc/NewPackage might help you [20:31] <AS> ok, thanks [20:43] <netrunner> oh, good that every build you do does a backup of your tree :) [20:45] <blindcoder> netrunner: rock-src? [20:46] <netrunner> jup :) [20:46] <blindcoder> I'm off, taking a bath [20:46] <blindcoder> bye [20:50] link_ (~link_@adsl.xan.ch) left irc: "leaving" [21:28] <fake> is svn locked up? [21:33] Action: fake fix0r1ng [21:36] <fake> and up it is [21:39] Action: netrunner adding qdvdauthor, my Nr1 of ugly configure scripts [21:39] <blindcoder> I prefer dvdstyler [21:40] <blindcoder> but I still don't know if it works with ROCK out of the box or not [21:40] <netrunner> fake: could you please take the time and build a bootdisk with the 2.6.10 and related patches? I am too dumb to fix the iproute2 and kiss thing. [21:41] <netrunner> blindcoder: didn't know that one. will try. is it in ROCK? [21:42] <blindcoder> netrunner: not yet, just a moment, I send the patch [21:42] <netrunner> blindcoder: thx [21:42] <blindcoder> you need wxwidets for it [21:42] <netrunner> got it [21:43] <blindcoder> and a few other programs: mplex (mjpegtools) and others [21:43] <blindcoder> but it'll tell you that :-) [21:43] <AS> hmm , no xorg in rock? [21:43] <netrunner> AS: yes it is. [21:44] <fake> netrunner: i am just starting a full reference build with 2.6.10 and will build the bootdisk after that finished [21:45] <fake> AS: you can choose - xorg or xfree. the default for crystal (the general purpose distribution target) is xorg, for others it's xfree [21:46] <blindcoder> netrunner: committed [21:46] <blindcoder> it just _might_ work :-) [21:50] <netrunner> fake: you're not convincable to change that order? [21:50] <netrunner> hm... I'll take 2.4 for that bootdisk then. [21:50] <netrunner> hope I can convert the lvm volumes somehow [21:51] AS (~AS@pD95FCFD9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:55] <blindcoder> netrunner: please vote at dvdstyler when you tested it [21:55] <blindcoder> I'm off for today [21:55] <blindcoder> bye [21:58] praenti_ (~praenti@mail.obster.org) joined #rocklinux. [21:58] praenti_ (~praenti@mail.obster.org) left irc: Client Quit [22:17] <fake> netrunner: you bet i am. [22:17] <fake> netrunner: oh, i thought you were talking about xorg/xfree [22:18] <fake> netrunner: i'd like to build the fullref first, maybe i face problems there equal to thos in the bootdisk [22:18] <netrunner> ok. I use a 2.4 bootdisk. [22:18] <fake> a full reference build is good for me to get an impression of the impact and various 'incarnations' of one error [22:18] <fake> netrunner: why not checkout a fresh trunk and use 2.6.9? [22:19] <fake> or even use rsync for a change ;) [22:19] <netrunner> fake: hm. or use stable :) [22:19] <fake> yes ;) [22:19] <fake> netrunner: when 2.6.10 goes into trunk, the bootdisk will work. [22:21] <fake> anything interesting on tv tonight? [22:23] <netrunner> halo 2. at least on mine .)= [22:31] <fake> ;) [22:35] <netrunner> arg. once again removed my download. :( [22:35] <fake> hehehe [22:35] <netrunner> and my last crystal build. *CRY* [22:37] <fake> so i take you dont need that bootdisk too early ;) [22:39] <netrunner> fake: I have the crystal on cd. at least. maybe I try to install those packages manually. [22:40] <netrunner> fake: my problem is that the installer on the cd tries to access the packages without the appended version number. [22:41] treo (~xfman@Db3c2.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [23:01] <daja77> fake: interesting stuff on tv is just over ^^ [23:02] <fake> daja77: The 13th warrior at 2 am on vox [23:03] <daja77> no i think i'll go to bed soon [23:03] <fake> daja77: the cdlabelgen update is troubeling - the download site isnt' reachable... [23:04] <daja77> yep that site is strange [23:04] <daja77> i got it [23:04] <daja77> i could mirror it somewhere [23:05] <fake> daja77: can you up it to your ppl directoru? [23:06] <fake> you don't need to adopt the desc file [23:06] <daja77> yep [23:06] <fake> if i have it, i can up it to the master mirror on commit [23:06] <daja77> i hope that the site will stabilize again [23:06] Action: netrunner scripts/Download -all 'ing [23:07] Action: netrunner wonders if this works in parallel. [23:07] <netrunner> -stable still has 2.6.7 [23:09] <daja77> aaaah damn [23:12] Action: daja77 cursing [23:13] <fake> what's wrong? [23:13] <daja77> forgot that damn passowrd [23:13] <daja77> .oO (only know it made perfectly sense on c3) [23:14] <fake> daja77: i can look it up... if you *really* can't remember, but i'd rather not [23:14] <daja77> i could try some other permutations [23:15] <netrunner> daja77: don't cry. I have an emberassing website which I don't know the password for. it was somehow my first try, and now forever on the web. [23:15] <daja77> url? [23:15] <fake> where?? [23:15] <fake> hihi [23:16] <daja77> *sigh* passwords that others define for me, taht somehow never works [23:18] <daja77> fake: just grab it from https://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~jahre/cdlabelgen-3.1.0.tbz2 [23:19] <fake> daja77: thanks [23:19] <daja77> will try the permutations later [23:22] <fake> build starting... [23:22] Action: fake off to zocking a bit ;) [23:23] <daja77> what? [23:29] <fake> vampire the masquerade bloodlines [23:29] <daja77> O_o [23:29] <fake> a friend stopped by, he wanted to show me that game... [23:29] <daja77> hf [23:29] <fake> and warhammer 40k [23:29] <fake> you bet ;) [23:30] <daja77> no idea what you are talking about ;) [23:30] <fake> i usually don;t play games, but sometimes my friends trick me into getting addicted [23:30] <daja77> *gg* [23:54] <netrunner> hm. sm recreate sideeffects? svn: No such revision 74 [23:54] <netrunner> (15 lines like this= [23:54] <netrunner> ) [00:00] --- Fri Jan 7 2005