[00:26] <praenti> fake: freetype issue is not solved, but I have found a workaround to get a working freetype on powerpc
[00:26] <praenti> please see my patch in submaster
[00:26] <praenti> cu and gn8
[00:29] <praenti> but xorg still not compile. something want to remove /usr/X11...
[00:46] <owl> sigh. moin. ... 
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[01:40] <treo> gn8
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[08:34] <esden> morning everyone
[08:36] <esden> strange ... noone is at the office ... 
[08:36] <esden> have I missed something?
[08:46] <esden> morning netrunner ;)
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[08:46] <esden> morning netrunner
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[09:14] <daja77> esden: 3 königstag perhaps?
[09:19] <esden> ohh ... ok ... right ... now I understand
[09:19] Action: esden hungry ... 
[09:47] <blindcoder> moin
[09:47] <blindcoder> esden: you're at work today o_O
[09:53] <esden> blindcoder: I am all the time at work ...
[09:54] <esden> also when I am sleeping ... as you know ;)
[09:54] <daja77> he is typing while bein asleep too ...
[09:54] Action: esden working currently at the thc design
[09:55] <esden> daja77: that is new to me ;)
[09:55] <daja77> have you slept at all @ congress?
[09:55] <esden> yes I have ... ask blindcoder ;)
[09:56] <esden> ahh ... blindcoder ... I have something for you ;)
[09:56] <esden> www.esden.net/thc/gallery
[09:57] <blindcoder> *click*
[09:58] <blindcoder> esden: could you _please_ hold still when taking pictures? I'm getting seasick
[09:58] <daja77> hehe
[09:58] <daja77> he is too nervous for that
[09:58] <esden> sorry ... that is not me ... but the camera ... I had only my cellphone for taking pictures >_<
[09:59] <blindcoder> *ARGH*
[10:00] <esden> my camera is broken ... and the one that I normally use is in africa ... or somewhere between africa and europe ... or back at europe ... but not in the office ... 
[10:00] <esden> all in all ... I do not have noting better then my cellphone >_<
[10:00] <daja77> africa?
[10:00] <esden> the first time the cellphone camera was useful in any way
[10:01] <esden> yes daja ... correct
[10:02] <esden> my chef took the camera with him on vacation
[10:02] <daja77> ic
[10:02] <blindcoder> th: ping
[10:03] <esden> blindcoder: you have nothing to tell me beside the fact that the pictures are baaad ... (what I already know) ... 
[10:03] <esden> right?
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[10:04] <blindcoder> esden: right :D
[10:04] <blindcoder> no, really: looks great
[10:04] <blindcoder> and your stuff is awaiting retrieval at my parents1
[10:04] <blindcoder> s/1/'/
[10:04] <esden> wait till you see the finished thing ... you will fall of your seat ;)
[10:05] <esden> blindcoder: thank you very much
[10:05] <esden> I already have someone that will write a demo for that ... 
[10:05] <esden> apropos demo ... you wanna see something amazing in that area?
[10:05] <esden> an ngage demo?
[10:05] <esden> that thing was amazing
[10:10] <esden> humm ... 
[10:10] <blindcoder> have no ngage
[10:10] <esden> you do not need one
[10:10] <esden> I have a video
[10:11] <esden> see ... /msg
[10:12] <esden> what is most importaint ... it was made by polish people ... go poland go go go ;)
[10:16] <blindcoder> nice
[10:17] <blindcoder> hrm...
[10:17] <blindcoder> according to my calculation I have 700 EUR to spend this month
[10:17] <blindcoder> guess I'll go shopping now :D
[10:18] <esden> lol
[10:18] <esden> nice statistics for december blindcoder 
[10:19] <esden> I think it would be nice to see such an email every month ;)
[10:19] <esden> *gnarf* ;)
[10:19] <blindcoder> ehm...
[10:19] <blindcoder> this mail is sent monthly since october
[10:54] <netrunner> http://andreas.anvame.net/content/download/5-iproute2.err
[10:55] <netrunner> can anyone tell me how to fix it`
[10:55] <netrunner> It is something with the kernel-header thing. But I don't see what to do.
[10:55] <blindcoder> don't ask me about kernel headers, no idea :(
[10:56] <blindcoder> netrunner: btw, you have looked into the over-optimisation thing?
[10:56] <netrunner> blindcoder: not yet, I only heard something was discussed about it.
[10:57] <blindcoder> netrunner: yes. can you tell me, which optimisations (apart from the well-known P4) cause troubles?
[10:57] <blindcoder> -march -mcpu combos?
[11:00] <blindcoder> okay, I'm off for shopping now
[11:00] <blindcoder> bye
[11:11] <netrunner> blindcoder: athlon-mp at least.
[11:23] <praenti> moin
[11:24] <praenti> netrunner: which kernel version?
[11:25] <netrunner> praenti: 2.6.10
[11:25] <netrunner> kiss fails too, if you want to see.
[11:26] <netrunner> http://andreas.anvame.net/content/download/5-kiss.err
[11:26] <praenti> don't know whats wrong there exactly, but try this patching seen here: https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2004102318422703997
[11:27] <praenti> it has s.th. to do with some undeclared type in the asm/byteorder.h
[11:28] Action: praenti away for lunch
[11:51] <esden> o_O
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[11:52] Action: esden is somehow not up to date >_<
[11:52] <esden> hi praenti 
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[12:16] <netrunner> praenti: does not help.
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[12:18] <treo> sali
[12:30] <praenti> netrunner: shit.
[12:32] <netrunner> hm? size 230G, used 223G, Avail 0 ???
[12:54] <treo> brb
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[12:57] Action: esden hates searching for datasheets ... 
[12:58] <esden> I always land on some japanese or korean sites ... where all pdf contains characters that even acrobat reader can not read!!! >_<
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[13:06] <blindcoder> back
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[13:10] <th> blindcoder: pong
[13:11] <blindcoder> th: already got the video?
[13:14] <th> blindcoder: nope
[13:14] <th> blindcoder: started the transfer now.
[13:15] <blindcoder> why not?
[13:15] <blindcoder> okay
[13:15] <th> i already have 0%
[13:15] <blindcoder> then I'll make lunch now due to decreased bandwidth :)
[13:15] <th> hehe yea
[14:00] <daja77> re
[14:00] <netrunner> df -h
[14:00] <netrunner> 1) check the terminal, 2) type
[14:01] <netrunner> 3) check again 4) press enter
[14:01] <netrunner> :)
[14:30] <th> 5) say sorry cause you messed it up again.
[14:30] <th> blindcoder: 25% ETA 3:44
[14:32] <treo> bye
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[15:17] <daja77> blindcoder: ?
[15:38] <blindcoder> daja77: !
[15:39] <daja77> guess i found a seeder for the bof video
[15:40] <blindcoder> daja77: who?
[15:40] <daja77> fellow student of mine
[15:40] <esden> *sigh* ... ok ... thc supports three different displays ... 
[15:40] <esden> my god ... that are many wires to route
[15:41] Action: daja77 wants a game
[15:41] <esden> daja77: then write one ;)
[15:41] <blindcoder> daja77: thanks, th is currently uploading the video to iso.rocklinux.de. maybe we can come back to him with the next bunch of isos?
[15:41] <daja77> k.
[15:41] <daja77> esden: i guessed that answer ...
[15:42] <esden> daja77: why not?
[15:42] <daja77> pong would be a good start eh
[15:42] <esden> I will write that one ... do not worry
[15:42] <daja77> hehe
[15:42] <esden> with bluetooth support ;)
[15:42] <esden> maximal 4 players ;)
[15:42] <daja77> are there apis?
[15:43] <esden> there will be
[15:43] <daja77> erh ic
[15:43] <esden> but I have already a lot of c source code that I can use as base for the api of thc
[15:44] <esden> I have already 21k lines code for that microcontroller I use ... I hope that is enough to start with ;)
[15:44] <daja77> lemme think, pong, space invaders, breakout, tetris ;-)
[15:44] <esden> ack
[15:44] <esden> what else?
[15:44] <daja77> sth to shoot
[15:45] <esden> I hope someone writes a jump and run for it ... 
[15:45] <esden> ala super mario or so
[15:45] <daja77> ah yeah
[15:45] <daja77> commander keen
[15:45] <esden> to shoot? ... scorch would be nice
[15:45] <daja77> don't know that
[15:46] <esden> scorched earch ... that game where you shoot at other tanks using balistics
[15:46] <daja77> aaah
[15:46] <daja77> i meant sth where you have to shoot everything what's in your way
[15:47] <esden> but I think that some games we mentioned will be only possible on the big lcd display 
[15:48] <daja77> .oO (a bluetooth sniffing device cloaked as handheld game)
[15:48] <esden> it is 130x128
[15:48] <daja77> how much is the hw btw?
[15:48] <esden> hehe ... one could write such an app I think
[15:48] <esden> how much what?
[15:48] <daja77> in euro
[15:48] <esden> dunno
[15:49] <daja77> O_o
[15:49] <esden> have not calculated exactly yet
[15:49] <daja77> you built that thing
[15:49] <daja77> ic
[15:49] <esden> i have not ... it is still on the design board
[15:49] <esden> I am still designing the pcb
[15:49] <esden> since monday >_<
[15:50] <esden> it is pretty much work ... even when the idea is pretty simple ...
[15:50] Action: daja77 prepared his exam for today since sunday ^^
[15:50] <esden> I think I prefere routing thousends of wires then preparing for an exam ... ;)
[15:51] <esden> poor daja77 
[15:51] <daja77> i succeeded
[15:51] <esden> good for you ... congrats
[15:52] <daja77> thx
[15:57] <daja77> now i somehow feel damn tired
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[18:57] <esden> *sigh* ... only blinkenled connector left ... 
[18:57] <esden> my god ... that is more difficult then I thought >_<
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[19:33] <AS> Hi.
[19:34] <daja77> hi as
[19:35] <AS> I'm trying to install Rock Linux now... I think it's the right distribution for me... I've tryed FreeBSD, NetBSD, SuSE, Slackware, Gentoo, LFS, ...
[19:37] <AS> there's a package manager, who downloads and installs a package and it's dependencies, isn't there?
[19:53] <netrunner> AS: rocklinux is not a distribution. it's a toolkit with which you can build yourself a distribution
[19:56] <AS> ok, to build my own distribution with Rock Linux, I use the Config Download and Build Scripts... When I have finished building it and booting into my new Distribution, is there a package manager available? I read something about rocket?
[20:00] <netrunner> yes, I also heard about it. I never tried it.
[20:04] <fake> AS: yes, there is. though it's your job to provide binary package repositories for your distribution
[20:04] <fake> AS: futhermore, binary package dependencies are not enforced (yet) 
[20:05] <fake> AS: this is one of the topics we want to improve before the 3.0 release
[20:06] <AS> I don't want to use binary packages. I want to  build my packages from source, so I don't need binary package support.
[20:11] <netrunner> AS: just building the package is done by the rock tools. 
[20:11] <netrunner> AS: you can use them to install a new package in your /
[20:18] <AS> oh, ok.
[20:22] <esden> puuuuuuhhhhhhhhh
[20:22] Action: esden finished adding the display connectors ...
[20:25] <fake> AS: rocket install ~= apt-get install, rocket emerge ~= emerge... 
[20:27] <blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
[20:28] <blindcoder> AS: http://scavenger.homeip.net/rockdoc/NewPackage might help you
[20:31] <AS> ok, thanks
[20:43] <netrunner> oh, good that every build you do does a backup of your tree :)
[20:45] <blindcoder> netrunner: rock-src?
[20:46] <netrunner> jup :)
[20:46] <blindcoder> I'm off, taking a bath
[20:46] <blindcoder> bye
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[21:28] <fake> is svn locked up?
[21:33] Action: fake fix0r1ng
[21:36] <fake> and up it is
[21:39] Action: netrunner adding qdvdauthor, my Nr1 of ugly configure scripts
[21:39] <blindcoder> I prefer dvdstyler
[21:40] <blindcoder> but I still don't know if it works with ROCK out of the box or not
[21:40] <netrunner> fake: could you please take the time and build a bootdisk with the 2.6.10 and related patches? I am too dumb to fix the iproute2 and kiss thing.
[21:41] <netrunner> blindcoder: didn't know that one. will try. is it in ROCK?
[21:42] <blindcoder> netrunner: not yet, just a moment, I send the patch
[21:42] <netrunner> blindcoder: thx
[21:42] <blindcoder> you need wxwidets for it
[21:42] <netrunner> got it
[21:43] <blindcoder> and a few other programs: mplex (mjpegtools) and others
[21:43] <blindcoder> but it'll tell you that :-)
[21:43] <AS> hmm , no xorg in rock?
[21:43] <netrunner> AS: yes it is.
[21:44] <fake> netrunner: i am just starting a full reference build with 2.6.10 and will build the bootdisk after that finished
[21:45] <fake> AS: you can choose - xorg or xfree. the default for crystal (the general purpose distribution target) is xorg, for others it's xfree
[21:46] <blindcoder> netrunner: committed
[21:46] <blindcoder> it just _might_ work :-)
[21:50] <netrunner> fake: you're not convincable to change that order?
[21:50] <netrunner> hm... I'll take 2.4 for that bootdisk then.
[21:50] <netrunner> hope I can convert the lvm volumes somehow
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[21:55] <blindcoder> netrunner: please vote at dvdstyler when you tested it
[21:55] <blindcoder> I'm off for today
[21:55] <blindcoder> bye
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[22:17] <fake> netrunner: you bet i am.
[22:17] <fake> netrunner: oh, i thought you were talking about xorg/xfree
[22:18] <fake> netrunner: i'd like to build the fullref first, maybe i face problems there equal to thos in the bootdisk
[22:18] <netrunner> ok. I use a 2.4 bootdisk. 
[22:18] <fake> a full reference build is good for me to get an impression of the impact and various 'incarnations' of one error
[22:18] <fake> netrunner: why not checkout a fresh trunk and use 2.6.9?
[22:19] <fake> or even use rsync for a change ;)
[22:19] <netrunner> fake: hm. or use stable :)
[22:19] <fake> yes ;)
[22:19] <fake> netrunner: when 2.6.10 goes into trunk, the bootdisk will work.
[22:21] <fake> anything interesting on tv tonight?
[22:23] <netrunner> halo 2. at least on mine .)=
[22:31] <fake> ;)
[22:35] <netrunner> arg. once again removed my download. :(
[22:35] <fake> hehehe
[22:35] <netrunner> and my last crystal build. *CRY*
[22:37] <fake> so i take you dont need that bootdisk too early ;)
[22:39] <netrunner> fake: I have the crystal on cd. at least. maybe I try to install those packages manually.
[22:40] <netrunner> fake: my problem is that the installer on the cd tries to access the packages without the appended version number.
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[23:01] <daja77> fake: interesting stuff on tv is just over ^^
[23:02] <fake> daja77: The 13th warrior at 2 am on vox
[23:03] <daja77> no i think i'll go to bed soon
[23:03] <fake> daja77: the cdlabelgen update is troubeling - the download site isnt' reachable...
[23:04] <daja77> yep that site is strange
[23:04] <daja77> i got it
[23:04] <daja77> i could mirror it somewhere
[23:05] <fake> daja77: can you up it to your ppl directoru?
[23:06] <fake> you don't need to adopt the desc file
[23:06] <daja77> yep
[23:06] <fake> if i have it, i can up it to the master mirror on commit
[23:06] <daja77> i hope that the site will stabilize again
[23:06] Action: netrunner scripts/Download -all 'ing
[23:07] Action: netrunner wonders if this works in parallel.
[23:07] <netrunner> -stable still has 2.6.7
[23:09] <daja77> aaaah damn
[23:12] Action: daja77 cursing
[23:13] <fake> what's wrong?
[23:13] <daja77> forgot that damn passowrd
[23:13] <daja77> .oO (only know it made perfectly sense on c3)
[23:14] <fake> daja77: i can look it up... if you *really* can't remember, but i'd rather not
[23:14] <daja77> i could try some other permutations
[23:15] <netrunner> daja77: don't cry. I have an emberassing website which I don't know the password for. it was somehow my first try, and now forever on the web.
[23:15] <daja77> url?
[23:15] <fake> where??
[23:15] <fake> hihi
[23:16] <daja77> *sigh* passwords that others define for me, taht somehow never works
[23:18] <daja77> fake: just grab it from http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~jahre/cdlabelgen-3.1.0.tbz2
[23:19] <fake> daja77: thanks
[23:19] <daja77> will try the permutations later
[23:22] <fake> build starting...
[23:22] Action: fake off to zocking a bit ;)
[23:23] <daja77> what?
[23:29] <fake> vampire the masquerade bloodlines
[23:29] <daja77> O_o
[23:29] <fake> a friend stopped by, he wanted to show me that game...
[23:29] <daja77> hf
[23:29] <fake> and warhammer 40k
[23:29] <fake> you bet ;)
[23:30] <daja77> no idea what you are talking about ;)
[23:30] <fake> i usually don;t play games, but sometimes my friends trick me into getting addicted
[23:30] <daja77> *gg*
[23:54] <netrunner> hm. sm recreate sideeffects? svn: No such revision 74
[23:54] <netrunner> (15 lines like this=
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