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[02:25] <esden_> puhh ...
[02:25] <esden_> what is else missing ...
[02:25] <esden_> I think only sound is missing now
[02:31] <treo> gn8
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[02:41] <mnemoc> i want to write a micro bootdisk (uboot) and i wanted it like:
[02:42] <mnemoc> init linux26 kernel with basic support
[02:42] <mnemoc> load a initrd with busybox and a plugable stage2 loader
[02:44] <mnemoc> linurc will just mount /proc, /dev and keyboard settings and exec the stage2 graber
[02:44] <mnemoc> stage2 will ve image_s_ to be mounted on different subdirs 
[02:45] <mnemoc> kernel modules, libraries and tools not available on busybox
[02:46] <mnemoc> fetched using wget or copied from a mounted device
[02:46] <mnemoc> then, without chrooting neither umounting start the installer
[02:47] <mnemoc> being able to easily plug a different stage2 fetcher and a different installer
[02:47] <mnemoc> every built with diet or uclibc choosen on Config
[02:48] <mnemoc> Config may also ask for "subdistribution info" and a default url to fetch stage2 and packages if network is choosen
[02:49] <mnemoc> network option choosen on runtime
[02:49] <mnemoc> comments?
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[03:03] <SMP> mnemoc: hmm
[03:05] <mnemoc> SMP: what that umm means?
[03:06] <SMP> what problem are you trying to solve?
[03:06] <mnemoc> i think every tool can fit on initrd and only fetch kernel modules
[03:06] <SMP> but I think th will love it ;)
[03:06] <mnemoc> kiss sucks, floppyboot sucks even more
[03:07] <mnemoc> and linuxrc is very hard to extend
[03:07] <mnemoc> i think we have almost forgotten network (http,ftp,nfs) installations
[03:08] <SMP> yeah, well, that's something th is trying to fix for himself with the rescue target
[03:15] <mnemoc> SMP: OT: do you remember the patch someone sent to remove repeated entries on bash history?
[03:23] <SMP> I remember there was such a thing. I should have it somewhere. can't find it in the archives?
[03:25] <mnemoc> nope :(
[03:25] <mnemoc> i have to go now :\ bbl
[03:25] <SMP> cu
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[10:41] <owl> hi nzg 
[10:42] <nzg> moin owl
[10:52] <blindcoder> moin
[10:56] <owl> hi blindcoder 
[10:59] <praenti> moin
[10:59] <praenti> anybody know how I can access our gcc compilerflags in a conf file?
[11:00] <praenti> tried s.th. like that: sed -i -e "s,-O3 -march=pentiumpro ,$CFLAGS," settings.pro
[11:00] <daja77> var_append/var_remove GCC_WRAPPER flags ...
[11:00] <praenti> but that does not work
[11:00] <daja77> erh 
[11:01] <praenti> daja77: this only works with gnu make. but this is qmake
[11:01] <praenti> daja77: qmake uses flags statically. is funny because you get an -march=pentiumpro on a powerpc...
[11:02] <daja77> huh the wrapper is based on a special make?
[11:02] <praenti> i hate mythtv...
[11:02] <daja77> qmake uses spec files? 
[11:03] <blindcoder> var_remove GCC3_WRAPPER_INSERT '-march=[^ ]*'
[11:03] <praenti> so I need the wrapper data as variable to make a sed to get our own flags into settings.pro
[11:03] <blindcoder> see: http://scavenger.homeip.net/rockdoc/CompilationProblems
[11:04] <praenti> blindcoder: nothing helpful on :-(
[11:04] <praenti> the qmake process ignores completely our gcc wrapper...
[11:05] <blindcoder> praenti: does it neither call gcc nor $CC?
[11:05] <praenti> g++ but how they call it i don't know
[11:05] <praenti> let me have a look
[11:07] <daja77> please keep in mind that the flag which are on the screen are not the ones the wrapper produces
[11:07] <praenti> hmm. it should work
[11:09] <praenti> the problem is that the call looks like that: g++-34 -c -pipe -Wall -W -fomit-frame-pointer -D_REENTRANT -fPIC  -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DPREFIX=\"/opt/mythtv\" -DCONFIG_VIDEO4LINUX -DUSING_IVTV -DUSING_OSS -DUSING_DVB -DUSE_ALSA -DUSE_JOYSTICK_MENU -DUSE_LIRC -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -DQT_SHARED -I/opt/qt33/mkspecs/default -I. -I/opt/mythtv/include -I/usr/include -I../libmythsamplerate -I../libmythsoundtouch -I/opt/qt33/include -
[11:09] <praenti> and i would expect an -mcpu=powerpc -mtune=7450
[11:09] <praenti> because they are in the GCC_WRAPPER_INSERT
[11:10] <daja77> you won't see that
[11:10] <praenti> daja77: why?
[11:13] <daja77> dunno just know that you wom't see the changes in the nrmal build printoutout, that's why the wrapped command line is printed out before for you to check
[11:13] <praenti> daja77: thats not true. gcc wrapper is not a command substitution
[11:14] <praenti> gcc wrapper modifies gcc command with called and adds/removes the necessary flags
[11:14] <praenti> you see them in the logs
[11:15] <praenti> or have a seen s.th. wrong...
[11:15] <praenti> argl.
[11:15] <praenti> they are in you are right
[11:15] <praenti> bdb also shows them not...
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[11:17] <praenti> hmm. where have I seen them? I can remember... perhaps my brain has a bigger data corruption ;-)
[11:19] <praenti> ok. next point talking with fake, if it is ok from his view. because it is his package.
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[12:14] <blindcoder> praenti: I still got some stuff from your FAZ subscription lying around here
[12:14] <blindcoder> praenti: can I throw it away or do you need it?
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[13:44] <esden_> good morning everyone
[13:45] Nick change: esden_ -> esden
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[13:51] <daja77> moin esden 
[13:51] <esden> hi daja77 
[13:56] <daja77> esden: do you want to show the handheld at clt perhaps or even have a talk about that?
[13:57] <esden> clt?
[13:57] <esden> aaah
[13:57] <esden> humm ... not yet ...
[13:57] <daja77> it is in march so ...
[13:57] <esden> I first want a prototype to be in my hands before I start talking about it
[13:57] <esden> in public
[13:58] <esden> I do not know how long it will take to create the prototype
[13:58] <esden> when I have it I will surely want to show it on clt and talk about it
[13:59] <esden> but before I really have the functioning hardware in my hands I will not start organizing talks ... ;)
[13:59] <esden> thank you very much 
[13:59] <daja77> well deadline is today
[13:59] <esden> then no ... sorry
[13:59] <daja77> but if you want to show it, i could register you for the rocklinux booth
[14:00] <esden> humm ... 
[14:00] <esden> is the deadline also today?
[14:00] <daja77> not necessarily
[14:00] <daja77> rock is already registered ;)
[14:00] <esden> hehe ... good ...
[14:00] <esden> then I can come over when I have the device ;)
[14:01] <esden> good good ;)
[14:01] <daja77> you will have one *lettingmotivationspread*
[14:02] <esden> ok ... then I have to work harder on it ;)
[14:03] <daja77> have to write a boring report now ...
[14:04] <esden> have fun ... :/
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[14:57] <blindcoder> hi
[15:02] <th> http://iso.rocklinux.de/rock-ftp/official/etc/bof_21c3.avi
[15:03] <blindcoder> sweet
[15:03] <blindcoder> thanks
[15:03] <daja77> hm i should grab that next week
[15:03] Action: daja77 puking again @ interbase sql code
[15:04] <blindcoder> daja77: reading horror stories?
[15:05] <daja77> not the source, just sql statements
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[15:05] <daja77> using triggers for initializing ids and stuffs
[15:06] <blindcoder> I see
[15:14] <mnemoc> moin!
[15:15] <daja77> moin mnemoc 
[15:15] <mnemoc> moin daja77 
[15:44] <netrunner> th: Cksum ERROR: download/base/glibc23/glibc-2.3.2.tar.bz2.cksum-err (1043282415)
[15:44] <netrunner> th: this is stable-trunk. some lines before it tells me "bunzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing"
[15:45] <netrunner> th: do you know this?
[15:46] <daja77> perhpas a download error?
[15:46] <netrunner> daja77: retried it 2 times.
[15:47] <daja77> ic
[15:50] <netrunner> hm. maybe the mirrors have a broken file ... trying original.
[15:53] <netrunner> ok. the file on the mirror is broken.
[15:56] <mnemoc> a replicated download error :\
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[18:07] <daja77> *sigh*
[18:09] <mnemoc> hi, how can i do something like: while [ "$foo" ]; do echo $foo | read y x; echo $y; foo=${foo#$y}; done    but that works?
[18:10] <daja77> x/kpdf don't find any fonst in crystal for some strange reason
[18:10] <netrunner> while [ x"$foo" != x"" ] ?
[18:10] <blindcoder> foo=${foo#* }
[18:11] <blindcoder> or try read y x < <( echo $foo )
[18:11] <blindcoder> cause if you use | read then the y x have a strange validity range
[18:20] <mnemoc> uhm
[18:20] <mnemoc> how posix is <( echo $foo ) ?
[18:22] <blindcoder> as posix as ksh is
[18:22] <blindcoder> rock uses it here and there
[18:24] <mnemoc> aha
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[19:52] <blindcoder> iceweasel :
[19:52] <blindcoder> D
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[20:04] <blindcoder> well, symlink has been faster, once
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[21:44] <fake> praenti: the command wrapper output is in (big surprise) cmd_wrapper.log in the src.xxx.yyy directory
[21:45] <fake> praenti: but what your method of sed'ing the makefile isn't that bad
[21:59] <owl> moin
[22:10] <owl> someone has expierence with integrated (in notebook) sd/mmc-card-readers?
[22:10] <fake> a little
[22:11] <fake> hi owl ;)
[22:11] <blindcoder> moin owl 
[22:11] <fake> got a new notebook, finally?
[22:11] <owl> hi fake , blindcoder 
[22:11] <blindcoder> owl: I mount them as regular discs
[22:11] <owl> yeah. 
[22:11] <blindcoder> but you need "Probe all LUNs" on in your kernel
[22:11] <owl> well. now everything - exc. - sd/mmc works
[22:11] <fake> ... if it is attached to the usb bus
[22:11] <blindcoder> but here only sd works
[22:12] <fake> in 2.6.10 there is a new mmc driver
[22:12] <blindcoder> the mmc and chipcard reader does not
[22:12] <blindcoder> still running on 2.6.6
[22:13] <blindcoder> probably should upgrade :)
[22:13] <owl> well. i guess it is attached via usb... at least my kernel displays 4 usb-devs, but i've got just 2 usb-ports... 
[22:13] <fake> i have that medion thing in my new peecee, sd/mmc/memorystick/whatever, all accessible fine via usb-storage
[22:15] <blindcoder> I have only the SD via usb-storage
[22:15] <owl> hm. even with non-devfs-kernel there should be something like '/dev/sda1', shouldn't it?
[22:15] <blindcoder> four busses, two active devices, none attached external
[22:16] <blindcoder> one's the sd, the other's the cd-ram
[22:17] <owl> hm. 
[22:18] <fake> owl: if your usb hci, usb-storage and sd_mod is loaded (or compiled into your kernel), yes
[22:18] <fake> owl: but there is a card reader device from ricoh, that is attached to pcmcia internally, wich is not supported
[22:18] <fake> owl: nos has it in his asus notebook
[22:20] <owl> *cough* asus. no comment. but, well, sd_mod, usb-storage, usb hci are into my kernel... 
[22:21] <netrunner> fake: thanks for pouring salt in my wounds :(
[22:21] <fake> netrunner: hum?
[22:22] <fake> i'd have some spare pepper... if you like... ;)
[22:22] <netrunner> 02:00.1 Class 0805: Ricoh Co Ltd: Unknown device 0822 (rev 13)
[22:22] <fake> hihihi
[22:22] <fake> update-pciids ?
[22:22] <netrunner> fake: nope. it's simply the not supported ricoh controller.
[22:23] <blindcoder> 02:06.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711EC1 SmartCardBus Controller (rev 20)
[22:23] <blindcoder> 02:06.1 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711EC1 SmartCardBus Controller (rev 20)
[22:23] <blindcoder> humm
[22:24] <fake> Product=Card Reader V1.4B
[22:24] <netrunner> my problem is even more that the first ocntroller at 02:00.0 is a well-known ricoh controller. the driver does not get that the second is another chip. or something like this.
[22:24] <fake> Manufacturer=Generic
[22:24] <fake> Vendor=0db0 ProdID=4011 Rev= 1.4b
[22:24] <fake> netrunner: yep
[22:26] <owl> grmpf. must there be something like a partition or so on the sd? if i'm inserting the sd-cars into another external card-reader on another pc (with devfs) there are just /dev/discs/disc3/{generic,discs} ...
[22:27] <blindcoder> owl: nope
[22:27] <netrunner> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-pcmcia/2004-September/001113.html
[22:27] <blindcoder> owl: try disktype
[22:27] <fake> owl: sometimes i have to run fdisk on the 'disc' device, just fdisk and then quit, then the partitions appear
[22:27] <owl> sigh. k. 
[22:28] <blindcoder> owl: what does disktype on the disc device say?
[22:28] <owl> well. on my notebook nothing happens to /dev/... no /dev/sda or /dev/sda1... 
[22:28] <owl> blindcoder: you aks me questions... i have even no 'disktype' here (or don't you mean an app?)
[22:29] <blindcoder> app
[22:30] <owl> sigh. training for my router.
[22:33] <owl> disktype: permission denied ;)
[22:33] <blindcoder> ehm
[22:33] <owl> well. fdisk the same... 
[22:33] <blindcoder> become superuser?
[22:33] <owl> haha. i am root ;)
[22:34] <blindcoder> then something is seriously fscked
[22:34] <blindcoder> or there's no card inserted :D
[22:34] <owl> there is a card ;p 
[22:37] <owl> fsck, 100 points. knoppix: unsupported card in socket 0, cardmgr: product info: RICOH, bay1controller
[22:37] Action: blindcoder trying hard not to comment this
[22:38] <owl> why?
[22:38] <blindcoder> you'd kick me :D
[22:39] <owl> well. you want a kick? ;) you even don't need  to comment it, to get one for free 
[22:39] <blindcoder> nah, thanks
[22:40] <owl> *smiling like the devil*
[22:40] <blindcoder> s/*$/ she is*/
[22:40] <owl> but - wtf there is a unsupported card...?
[22:41] <owl> hehe ;p
[22:52] <netrunner> what am I missing to reconstruct my build/? I installed everything to build/<id>/ and put the gems in ROCK/pkgs/
[22:53] <netrunner> now I wanted to build a 5-lvm for this thing, but it immediately ends the build.
[22:53] <netrunner> are the logfiles so essential?
[22:53] <fake> no, but the other stuff in build/<id>/ROCK/...
[22:53] <netrunner> the tools should be automatically built...
[22:54] <netrunner> I created the dirs that are there, and the symlinks.
[22:54] <fake> i'm not so sure wether the loop-mounts are re-created
[22:55] <netrunner> fake: should be, because after a reboot it has to work too.
[22:56] <fake> i mean, if the mount points arent' there
[22:56] <fake> bind mounts need mount points
[22:57] <netrunner> fake: I created all dirs that are also in another build directory.
[22:57] <fake> hm...
[22:57] <fake> can you chroot into the directory ? are the permissions correct?
[22:59] <netrunner> fake: couldn't it be that he refuses to build stage 5 packages if he finds no logs at all?
[23:00] <fake> netrunner: possibly. you could just touch the .out files...
[23:00] <fake> netrunner: ./scripts/Create-PkgQueue shows you what he'd like to build next
[23:05] <netrunner> fake: nothing :)
[23:06] <netrunner> fake:  ah, 0-linux=linux26-header
[23:10] Action: netrunner now touching all those logs.
[23:10] <netrunner> hm, doesn't help :(
[23:11] <fake> :(
[23:15] <netrunner> hm. there are some missing ...
[23:16] <netrunner> ok. now the pkgqueue is empty, i.e. all logs are there. still only doing the cleanup.
[23:17] <netrunner> AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
[23:17] <fake> hm?
[23:17] Action: netrunner headbanging on his table
[23:17] <fake> poor table...
[23:18] <fake> what's wrong?
[23:18] <netrunner> I stumbled over this some time ago ...
[23:18] <netrunner> I always triet to do a scripts/Build-Target -cfg crystal -job 5-lvm2
[23:18] <fake> build-target -job ?
[23:19] <netrunner> yes. simply builds this job. something nice to build a new package into a finished build
[23:19] <fake> scripts/Build-Job ?
[23:19] <netrunner> but it issues no error messages.
[23:19] <netrunner> it should have been 3-lvm2 :/
[23:19] <fake> yes, sure ;))
[23:19] <netrunner> that's why it didn't build anything
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[23:24] <netrunner> *phew* my gf just scanned through my browser history on my notebook ...
[23:25] <fake> natalie is getting suspicious... ?
[23:25] <netrunner> most conspiious was some website about limoncello ;)
[23:25] <fake> let's hope she doesn't find out about.... you know...
[23:26] <netrunner> fake: not really. she says geeks are the last to be suspected for cheating :)
[23:26] <netrunner> 1
[23:26] <fake> oh boy, if she only knew how wrong she is ...
[23:26] <fake> geeks just know how to cheat without being caught in the act ;)
[23:26] <fake> it's like hacking
[23:27] <fake> if you do it right, nobody will ever notice it
[23:27] <netrunner> :)
[23:27] <netrunner> I think most geeks cheat on their girls using their huge video archive ,)
[23:28] <fake> that's not cheating - that's 'seeking for inspiration' ;))
[23:28] <netrunner> 'hey, I found something new ...' - *slam*
[23:30] <netrunner> btw, I am testing if ROCK is able to handle everything-in-a-big-lvm
[23:30] <th> sure it does!
[23:35] <netrunner> :)
[23:35] <netrunner> crystal has no lvm tools 
[23:36] <th> that's a bug
[23:36] <netrunner> and ... please why are all the lvm2 tools in /lib/lvm2/ ? the executables...
[23:36] <th> netrunner: to live in peace with lvm(1)
[23:36] <th> netrunner: we have lvm-wrapper to use the right lvm util
[23:36] <netrunner> th: our or their decision?
[23:36] <netrunner> ah.
[23:36] <th> netrunner: lvm-wrapper is written by myself
[23:37] <netrunner> th: contained where?
[23:37] <th> netrunner: in fact your productive system does not need to have lvm utils at all
[23:37] <th> netrunner: it's packaged
[23:38] <netrunner> th: I need to run vgscan -y a at boot, no?
[23:38] <netrunner> I am currently hand-copying lvm2, lvmcreate_initrd from lvm and cpio with a floppy to the target machine ...
[23:39] <th> netrunner: yes - but i don't do that in the productive system ;)
[23:39] <th> netrunner: you WANT to use my rescue system!
[23:39] <th> netrunner: i boot all my productive machines in some sort of rescue-lvm-cycle
[23:40] <th> netrunner: you boot rescye and it activates your volume groups, mounts your root-logical volume and chroots + pivot-roots into it
[23:40] <th> netrunner: that way you only need one partition of type LVM on your disc
[23:40] <th> and something to boot from
[23:41] <th> (might be flash disk or another partition or cdrom)
[23:41] <netrunner> installing grub fails when root is a logical volume ...
[23:41] <th> (thats where the kernel goes)
[23:41] <th> (and the grub stages)
[23:42] <th> netrunner: you only need to install grub SOMEWHERE
[23:42] <th> netrunner: easiest way:
[23:42] <th> netrunner: create a 100MB part to boot from
[23:42] <netrunner> oh well, grub does not know lvm :)
[23:42] <th> netrunner: the rest is only lvm
[23:42] <th> the 100MB contain:
[23:43] <th> rescue system, kernel, initrd, grub stages
[23:43] <netrunner> yeah well, I forgot about that .)
[23:43] <th> rescue system knows your root-lv (given by kernel param)
[23:43] <th> mounts it, chroots, pivot-roots
[23:43] <netrunner> "your rescue system" == ROCK rescue target?
[23:43] <th> if anything fails - you are in rescue
[23:43] <th> netrunner: exactyl
[23:44] <netrunner> ok. does it create an initrd or so?
[23:44] <th> yes
[23:44] <netrunner> okilidokili.
[23:44] <th> netrunner: building this target results in:
[23:44] <netrunner> will do that tomorrow.
[23:44] <th> system.tar.bz2
[23:44] <th> and initrd.img
[23:44] <th> just build a kernel
[23:44] <th> and boot that kernel
[23:44] <th> there is a contrib/ - script that creates a bootable cd
[23:46] <netrunner> th: do I need the same kernel for the rescue and the reals ystem=
[23:47] <netrunner> th: if yes, does the rescue work with 2.6?
[23:47] <th> yes and yes
[23:47] <th> in fact the iso i uploaded (bootable) has some 2.6 kernel
[23:47] <netrunner> pivot-root sets root for kernel?
[23:50] <th> yes
[23:50] Action: netrunner starting build and going to bed. n8
[23:50] <netrunner> th: thx so far :)
[23:50] <th> cya
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