[00:06] <owl> <- counting sheeps. gn8
[00:08] <mnemoc> gn8 owl 
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[00:59] <daja77> re
[01:04] <mnemoc> hi daja77 
[01:08] <daja77> hi mnemoc 
[01:31] <daja77> you hilighted me ...
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[01:53] <mnemoc> daja77: me? when?
[01:53] <daja77> some hours ago
[01:54] <daja77> in another chan
[01:54] <mnemoc> ah, it was about rtai
[01:55] <daja77> it is unmaintained atm ...
[01:56] <mnemoc> just as most linux extensions here and there ;)
[01:57] <daja77> i don't need it atm, and new rtai would need a rework
[01:57] <daja77> <- bed
[01:58] <mnemoc> gn8 daja
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[02:46] <treo> gn8, idling into sleep
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[07:41] <dsoul> moin
[07:41] <dsoul> kernel should be updated :)
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[09:43] <blindcoder> moin
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[10:34] <netrunner> moin
[10:35] <netrunner> dsoul: what do you mean?
[10:59] <dsoul> netrunner bugs
[11:27] <netrunner> dsoul: blue
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[12:49] <treo> moin
[13:55] <blindcoder> == 12:46:07 =[0]=> Building base/linux=linux26-header [2.6.9 0].
[13:55] <blindcoder> still building
[13:55] <blindcoder> smells fishy
[14:00] <netrunner> blindcoder: I sometimes accidently press C-s in a terminal, which makes the build appear to freeze.
[14:00] <netrunner> blindcoder: try pressing C-q
[14:00] <blindcoder> .config:2097: trying to assign nonexistent symbol MELAN
[14:00] <blindcoder> tons of these
[14:01] <blindcoder> netrunner: nope, that didn't happen
[14:01] <netrunner> just athought :)
[14:02] <blindcoder> I know the problem with c-s, thanks :-)
[14:02] <blindcoder> make[1]: *** [oldconfig] Interrupt
[14:02] <blindcoder> that's ultimately where it failed with C-c
[14:06] <th> there is a problem with c-s?
[14:06] <th> morning
[14:06] <blindcoder> th: only in that it works as expected :)
[14:06] <blindcoder> moin
[14:11] <th> good.
[14:12] <netrunner> th: rescue target misses libelf.
[14:12] <th> netrunner: i never missed it.
[14:12] <netrunner> th: at least in trunk. my build failed yesterday, just restarted it.
[14:12] <netrunner> th: some package missed it. forgot which it was.
[14:12] <th> netrunner: you mean build failed?
[14:13] <netrunner> th: jup. in trunk with 2.6.10
[14:13] <th> sorry i've no time to fix things in trunk.
[14:13] <netrunner> th: I still hope somebody helps this kernel thing, I have no knowledge about this header issue.
[14:13] <th> it's stable in stable.
[14:13] <netrunner> th: no problem, I am not talking about you :)
[14:13] <netrunner> th: I only need, as you said, the same kernel for the rescue system.
[14:13] <th> netrunner: in fact it's a good idea to just use a iso i released
[14:14] <th> netrunner: and i'm building a 2.6.10 rescue iso now which i'm going to upload
[14:14] <th> netrunner: it's trivial to use the uploaded system.tar.bz2 and the initrd.gz and use your kernel
[14:14] <th> see target/rescue/contrib/mkisolinux.sh
[14:15] <th>   ./mkisolinux.sh -C KERNEL INITRD[.gz] SYSTEM [OVERLAY]
[14:15] <th>        creates the iso image from kernel, initrd and system tarball
[14:15] <th> you can download initrd and system
[14:15] <th> and build the kernel yourself
[14:15] <th> * kernel must have support for devfs
[14:15] <th> * kernel must have support for initrd
[14:15] <th> * kernel must have support for iso9660
[14:16] <netrunner> th: how big is that iso? (that info is missing on the website ;)
[14:16] Action: th is just pasting output from "sh ./target/rescue/contrib/mkisolinux.sh"
[14:16] <th> http://iso.rocklinux.de/rock-ftp/
[14:16] <th> take this as your starting point
[14:16] <th> and you get sizes
[14:16] <th> http://iso.rocklinux.de/rock-ftp/official/2.0-stable/2.0.3/rescue/
[14:17] <th> 1t's 15MB
[14:17] <th> and if you wish i'll release the 2.0.4-pre1 rescue.iso with kernel 2.6.10 very soon
[14:17] <netrunner> jup thx. is the thing with booting rescue and pivot-root documented anywhere?
[14:17] <th> nope
[14:18] <netrunner> th: I think I could just copy my own kernel over to the rescue cd.
[14:18] <th> but you might ask me and we work on a doc for it
[14:18] <th> netrunner: using the mkisolinux.sh script is easy!
[14:18] <th> netrunner: go for it!
[14:19] <th> netrunner: there is a menu.lst-example for the lvm-boot-cycle
[14:24] Action: netrunner booting rescue iso
[14:26] <netrunner> for a note: loadkeys de -> cannot open include file qwertz-layout
[14:26] <netrunner> for bootdisk in trunk and stable as well as the rescue thing.
[14:27] <th> kernel default ;)
[14:27] <th> you can put special mappings in you overlay file
[14:28] <th> overlay is just another tar.bz2 that is extracted over the system
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[15:01] <netrunner> th: rescure is missing the symlink /dev/fd -> /proc/self/fd
[15:01] <th> netrunner: why do you think so?
[15:01] <th> netrunner: why do you need it?
[15:02] <netrunner> th: I called stone and it complained it found no /dev/fd/something :)
[15:02] <th> why the hell are you calling stone inside rescue?
[15:02] <netrunner> I am only experimenting :)
[15:02] <netrunner> there is stone, so why not call it? :)
[15:02] <blindcoder> netrunner: cd /dev && rm -rf fd && ln -s /proc/self/fd
[15:02] <netrunner> blindcoder: thx, I know. wanted to bring it to th's attention.
[15:02] <blindcoder> netrunner: oh, sorry. shouldn't do two things at the same time :)
[15:03] <netrunner> blindcoder: yes, I know that feeling :)
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[15:05] <th> netrunner: perhaps i should remove stone
[15:05] <th> i see no sense in having it there
[15:05] <blindcoder> th: stone is part of mine, no?
[15:05] <blindcoder> th: mine makes sense to have
[15:06] <th> blindcoder: yes and mine works without that symlink.
[15:06] <blindcoder> I'd just create the symlink. seems to be easier for two reasons:
[15:06] <blindcoder> a) stone might become more useful :)
[15:07] <blindcoder> b) other ROCK scripts do need that symlink, too.
[15:12] <th> that's right.
[15:14] <netrunner> th: oh, and calling grub leads to a segfault.
[15:15] <th> no
[15:15] <th> it doesn't
[15:15] <th> at least not the official iso
[15:15] <th> and neither any of the rescues i built
[15:16] <th> i do that on every install
[15:20] <netrunner> th: well ... I just did it. your official iso :)
[15:20] <netrunner> th: the one in the emulated floppy works fine.
[15:21] <netrunner> 1
[15:21] <th> can you reproduce this in qemu?
[15:21] <th> somehow so i can test?
[15:34] <netrunner> my qemu is still installing.
[15:35] <th> how did you run grub?
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[16:21] <netrunner> hi esdi
[16:51] <th> uhh in 2.0.4-pre1 tar needs librt
[16:51] <th> librt is fgrom glibc23 what is it?
[16:51] <mnemoc_> runtime? ;)
[16:52] <th> i mean: why does tar need librt explicitly?
[16:53] <th> thats new in 1.14
[16:54] <th> and it needs libpthread hmm
[16:55] <th> so to have a tar workin at version 1.14 i need the 20k bigger binary + 67k pthread + 23k librt
[16:55] <th> thats > 100k more just cause i updated tar to 1.14
[16:55] <mnemoc_> use busybox on rescue ;)
[16:55] <th> not for tar
[16:56] <th> i want to have a real tar
[16:56] <th> and i don't want + 111k for a new tar version
[16:57] <mnemoc_> maybe that improvement can be disabled on configure
[16:57] <th> yea
[16:59] <th> hmm why does it need librt?
[17:00] <mnemoc_> speed vs. size?
[17:02] <th> hmmm so i need to figure out how to get back my old size
[17:02] <th> checking for library containing clock_gettime... -lrt
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[17:13] <th> well i've still almos 2MB left in initrd perhaps i should just add these 100k
[17:24] <th> wow kiss is 512MB of size?
[17:24] <th> busybox has only 175K
[17:24] <th> s/MB/K/
[17:27] <th> what can kiss do what busybox can't?
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[17:28] <mnemoc_> kiss stinks
[17:28] <th> e.g. kiss' mount
[17:29] <mnemoc_> bb mounts too
[17:29] <th> yes
[17:29] <th> i'll try to replace kiss with busybox in my rescue
[17:29] <mnemoc_> have you used my 'config engine'?
[17:30] <th> i don't know your config engine.
[17:30] <mnemoc_> on busybox package
[17:30] <th> ahh
[17:30] <th> no special config for bb in rescue target.
[17:30] <mnemoc_> ic ;)
[17:31] <th> what's your config engine?
[17:31] <th> talking of the functions.in?
[17:31] <netrunner> pciutils fails without kernel source.
[17:31] <mnemoc_> busybox and uclibc use config files like kernels'
[17:31] <th> ahh so i guess i do - as i use the default bb rock package
[17:32] <mnemoc_> this 'engines' helps to alter that config
[17:32] <th> how do i use it?
[17:33] <th> can i change the bb functions with it?
[17:34] <mnemoc_> that's the idea
[17:34] <th> hmm in fact i don't want to change them
[17:34] <mnemoc_> :)
[17:34] <th> or do i?
[17:34] <th> the default looks ok.
[17:34] <mnemoc_> i tryed to port rock's config into it by default
[17:35] <th> ahh
[17:35] <th> that'd be cool
[17:36] <mnemoc_> NLS, arch, etc... simple stuff
[17:37] <th> do you smell any drawbacks with bb in stage1 systems instead of kiss?
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[17:39] <mnemoc_> i wanted to rewrite the whole bootdisk
[17:39] <mnemoc_> using bb ofcourse
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[17:55] <netrunner> th: can it be that you improved the rescue target in stable but the changes did not get into trunk?
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[20:03] <th> netrunner: ack. there is a forward merge planned.
[20:03] <th> netrunner: but nothing serious
[20:04] <th> netrunner: what's not working?
[20:11] <netrunner> th: after the build, the scripts wanted to copy ip, which is in iproute2, which is not selected.
[20:20] <th> whut?
[20:20] <th> thats in for ages
[20:20] <th> netrunner: actually everything is merged ATM
[20:21] <th> perhaps your iproute2 did not build?
[20:21] <th> iproute2 should be selected
[20:22] <th> [P] X -X---5---9 190.000
[20:22] <th> [P] X -1---5---9 787.000
[20:22] <th> that's the difference in iproute2 paclage hmmmm
[20:22] <th> is there some s/X/-/ in trunk?
[20:22] <th> cause selection happens by:
[20:22] <th> # Disable packages which are not in base or not build in stages 0-4
[20:22] <th> base / !  { s/^X /O /p; d; };     /^. -----/ { s/^X /O /p; d; };
[20:23] <th> so it should be selected if not deselected by that match
[20:23] <th> but as far as i know there have been no problems with that target in trunk on 2.0.3 times
[20:24] <netrunner> th: maybe I accidently mixed the configurations.
[20:25] Action: netrunner has a unique config/ for both -stable and -trunk
[20:29] <th> and maybe i should switch to explicit package selection for rescue
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[21:27] <th> mnemoc_: is there some prepared mechanism to create a link for each plugin busybox provides?
[21:28] <mnemoc_> busybox creates an 'installer'
[21:29] <th> hmm i'd need to fetch that from build dir?
[21:30] <th> cause i don't have the build dir available at the time i'd need it.
[21:30] <mnemoc_> iirc it's another 'builtin' on busybox binary
[21:30] <th> ahh that would be good
[21:30] <th> is it in by default
[21:30] <th> ?
[21:30] <th> reading the list...
[21:31] <th> perhaps it's not listed
[21:31] <mnemoc_> i'm not sure... mom
[21:32] <th> should i update from 1.00-pre7?
[21:32] <mnemoc_> what busybox install --help say?
[21:32] <mnemoc_> th: sure
[21:32] <th> mnemoc_: do you know some minor things that changed?
[21:32] <th> s/minor/major/
[21:33] <th> some major things that justice the update
[21:33] <mnemoc_> bug fixing i think
[21:33] <th> install: applet not found
[21:33] <mnemoc_> -pre7 is ugly when final has been released long time ago
[21:33] <th> final is released?
[21:34] <mnemoc_> # 13 October 2004 -- BusyBox 1.00 released
[21:34] <th> uhh
[21:34] <th> it's not in trunk
[21:34] <th> [V] 1.00-rc3
[21:34] <th> that's trunk
[21:34] <th> is it in submaster?
[21:34] <mnemoc_> not by me
[21:36] <th> are you able to do a test build in trunk?
[21:37] <mnemoc_> i have no build of trunk here, i should have to do a minimal or something but i can't do that today, the company server is very busy :p
[21:38] <th> i see
[21:38] <th> i'll test it in stable
[21:38] <th> ohh busybox comes with iproute2 "ip"?
[21:38] <th> wow
[21:38] <mnemoc_> yep :)
[21:39] <th> well it's not in rock's default bb config
[21:39] <mnemoc_> btw, to configure it var_append to conffiles a file like pkgsel with:
[21:39] <mnemoc_> X FEATURE
[21:39] <mnemoc_> X FEATURE_*_FOO
[21:40] <th> rock.config?
[21:40] <th> X *_DEVFS
[21:40] <th> X *_DEVPTS
[21:40] <mnemoc_> that's a default
[21:40] <mnemoc_> you can var_append from your target
[21:41] <mnemoc_> hook_add postmake 9 'cp -v .config busybox.links $docdir' <--- on the bottom of busybox.conf
[21:41] <mnemoc_> so the list of links is on $docdir
[21:41] <th> uhhhh. i built busybox 1.00 but the filelist does not contain the binary :-/
[21:41] <mnemoc_> and the .config generated
[21:41] <th> busybox: usr/share/doc/busybox/.config
[21:42] <mnemoc_> busybox & uclibc were polemic packages when i improved it
[21:43] <mnemoc_> they where not applied as i send them because of my 'config engine' on uclibc package used by busybox
[21:43] <mnemoc_> i'm not sure how they work on rock's trunk
[21:45] <netrunner> th: I can test the upgrade for trunk.
[21:45] <netrunner> th: but the rescue disk already has busybox on it?
[21:45] <th> netrunner: yes for stage2
[21:45] <th> netrunner: i want to replace the kiss by bb in stage1
[21:46] <netrunner> th: I started http://scavenger.homeip.net/rockdoc/RootOnLVM
[21:46] <th> mnemoc_: hmmm strange a simple version bump results in no busybox binary in stable
[21:46] <netrunner> th: I'll do it in my qemu in parallel :)
[21:46] <th> netrunner: great. i promise to proof-read this.
[21:46] <mnemoc_> what does the log say?
[21:46] <netrunner> th: don't expect too much there, I am not a good author :)
[21:47] <mnemoc_> if [ "$ROCKCFG_PKG_BUSYBOX_SYMLINKS" = 0 ] ; then
[21:47] <mnemoc_>         makeinstopt=''
[21:47] <mnemoc_>         hook_add postmake 5 'cp -v busybox $bindir'
[21:47] <mnemoc_> else
[21:47] <th> mnemoc_: it's in my people dir
[21:48] <th> including flist
[21:50] <mnemoc_> nothing is installed, can you set XTRACE?
[21:50] <th> there is no such busybox config option here...
[21:51] <th> mnemoc_: did you say you made improvements to bb that did not go into trunk?
[21:51] <mnemoc_> no ROCK's xtrace config and rebuild :)
[21:51] <mnemoc_> the go into trunk a year after i send them
[21:51] <th> i see
[21:52] <mnemoc_> and as uclibc was delayed changes were done
[21:52] <mnemoc_> delayed even more*
[21:54] <mnemoc_> i also wanted to remove that 'emergency' thing alessandro had as busybox config
[21:54] <th> what's that about?
[21:54] <th> full static?
[21:55] <mnemoc_> no, just busybox installed on a /emergency dir :\
[21:55] <th> which has all links?
[21:55] <mnemoc_> yes, static
[21:57] <mnemoc_> a make install is done to that prefix
[21:57] <th> build finished again.
[21:57] <mnemoc_> normally busybox only + .config + busybox.links only should be installed
[21:57] <th> uploaded.
[21:57] <th> (the log)
[21:59] <mnemoc_> weird, one postmake seem to be gone.... mom
[21:59] <th> i guess the strange thing is that i've no such config vars
[22:00] <mnemoc_> what ROCKCFG_PKG_BUSYBOX_SYMLINKS do you have?
[22:00] <mnemoc_> no?
[22:00] <th> config does not have any /BUSY/
[22:01] <th> i've no buysbox options in dialog
[22:01] <th> removed config/default/
[22:01] <th> trying again
[22:01] <mnemoc_> if [ "$ROCKCFG_PKG_BUSYBOX_SYMLINKS" = 0 ] ; then <--- change this to != 1 in that case
[22:02] <th> yea that's what i guessed
[22:02] <mnemoc_> but i don't understand why you could not have BUSYBOX config vars
[22:02] <th> now i have a busybox submenu
[22:03] <mnemoc_> o_O
[22:03] <th> and now i have ROCKCFG_PKG_BUSYBOX_SYMLINKS='0'
[22:03] <mnemoc_> but change it to != 1 anyway
[22:03] <mnemoc_> it's safer
[22:03] <th> must've been an old config
[22:03] <th> yes - is it in trunk already?
[22:03] <mnemoc_> nope
[22:03] <th> or are you planning busybox changes?
[22:03] <mnemoc_> no changes planed
[22:04] <mnemoc_> at least until march :\
[22:04] <th> netrunner: so could you please include this tiny change with the update?
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[22:06] <mnemoc_> th: if you want iproute2-clone on rescue var_append a rule file with: X IP    to conffiles from target
[22:06] <th> X IP?
[22:06] <th> where does "IP" come from?
[22:06] <mnemoc_> CONFIG_IP
[22:06] <mnemoc_> CONFIG_IP=y
[22:07] <th> ahh so X IP is no abbreviation but complete
[22:07] <mnemoc_> you have X FEATURE [<value>]
[22:07] <mnemoc_> yes
[22:07] <mnemoc_> O FEATURE on turn matching with ='n'
[22:07] <th> i should compare that in detail. dont know if i'd like a iproute2 clone
[22:07] <netrunner> there are a few FIXME's in the busybox.conf ...
[22:08] <th> busybox: usr/bin/busybox
[22:08] <mnemoc_> and - FEATURE to remove that line
[22:08] <th> that helped
[22:08] <th> ok that's cool
[22:09] <th> and misses documentation ;>
[22:09] <mnemoc_> netrunner: FIXMEs where more a like a TESTME
[22:09] <mnemoc_> there is a mail about
[22:09] <th> can you find that mail and paste it into ROCKDoc wiki?
[22:10] <mnemoc_> i did that 'engine' to improve kernel's config but i was ignored and after a year a bit pissed :p
[22:10] <th> "kernels"?
[22:10] <mnemoc_> kernel use the same .config thing
[22:10] <mnemoc_> with the same schema
[22:10] <th> so it was initially for kernel?
[22:10] <mnemoc_> yes
[22:11] <th> ok
[22:11] <blindcoder> mnemoc_: you have to send reminders about once every other hour to be heard on the mailing lists :)
[22:11] <mnemoc_> blindcoder: *G*
[22:13] <th> cat $rootdir/usr/share/doc/busybox/busybox.links | \
[22:13] <th>     sed 's/^/basename /' | sh | while read x
[22:13] <th> do
[22:13] <th>     ln bin/busybox $x
[22:13] <th> done
[22:14] <th> suggestions for improvement?
[22:14] <blindcoder> while read x ; do
[22:14] <mnemoc_> how does busybox.links looks like? ;)
[22:14] <blindcoder> ln bin/busybox `basename $x`
[22:15] <blindcoder> done < $rootdir/usr/share/doc/busybox/busybox.links
[22:15] <th> mnemoc_: x becomes the basename of the binary
[22:15] <mnemoc_> th, blindcoder: you can look into uclibc's clean_arch.config and uclibc.conf for some more 'advanced' usage of this /engine/
[22:15] <th> blindcoder: thanks
[22:15] <mnemoc_> th: i whould use sed directly to write `ln ...` lines and then | sh
[22:15] <th> blindcoder: /me is blindfolded today
[22:16] <netrunner> busybox 1.00 built flawlessly
[22:16] <mnemoc_> feel free to update :)
[22:16] <th> mnemoc_: yea - but blindys version is even better i think
[22:16] <th> netrunner: thanks
[22:16] <th> i'll send the update to sm
[22:17] <mnemoc_> th: yes :)
[22:17] <th> mnemoc_: any other small fixes to propose?
[22:17] <mnemoc_> nope
[22:17] <mnemoc_> ee.... 
[22:17] <mnemoc_> yes
[22:17] <mnemoc_> read x y;
[22:17] <mnemoc_> to catch the crap on y
[22:17] <th> i's talking of bb update
[22:17] <th> who needs the crap?
[22:18] <mnemoc_> if you don't catch the crap, the crap will be inside x
[22:18] <th> there was a better way of doing `basename` cause basename is in /usr
[22:18] <th> which crap?
[22:19] <mnemoc_> th: if you test emergency thing, and works remove the FIXMEs
[22:19] <mnemoc_> <mnemoc_> how does busybox.links looks like? ;) <th> mnemoc_: x becomes the basename of the binary
[22:19] <mnemoc_> "becomes the basename of the binary" is the crap, or i misunderstood'
[22:21] <th> mnemoc_: no i wanted to say that $x will be the basename of each binary
[22:21] <th> the file reads like:
[22:21] <th> /usr/bin/tail
[22:21] <th> /bin/tar
[22:21] <th> ...
[22:21] <th> for each applet
[22:21] <th> and $x becomes tail, tar, ...
[22:21] <th> so there is no crap in the file
[22:22] <mnemoc_> why `basename` ?
[22:22] <mnemoc_> considering you have /usr/bin, /bin and /sbin
[22:22] <th> cause i want to have all plugins in a single dir in rescue stage1
[22:22] <mnemoc_> ok
[22:23] <th> i have usr -> . and sbin -> bin symlinks in stage1 
[22:23] <th> ${x##*/}
[22:23] <mnemoc_> if you already have the symlinks why expend time running `basename`;)
[22:24] <th> to go easy on the symlinks?
[22:24] Action: mnemoc_ boss looking me directly
[22:24] <th> ;-)
[22:24] <mnemoc_> brb
[22:31] <th> 2005010822305619222 place your votes
[22:34] <th> netrunner: what files should i preserve for loadkeys to work?
[22:38] <th> netrunner: you should note in the wiki that you are talking about the ROCK Linux advanced rescue system - cd set
[22:38] <th> else there would be no /mnt/boot 
[22:38] <netrunner> th: I don't know. I only wanted to have german layout and got the error I reported :)
[22:39] <th> please paste the error again
[22:39] <th> i can fix this if you can help me finding which file is missing
[22:39] <netrunner> For the next steps, you'll need a ROCKLinux? rescue CD.
[22:39] <netrunner> ok, I can denote it with the longer name .)
[22:40] <th> ahh
[22:40] <netrunner> loadkeys: /usr/share/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de.map.gz:8: cannot open include file qwertz-layout
[22:40] <netrunner> th: that page is far from finished, I am only pushing what I know :)
[22:41] <th> netrunner: ok.
[22:41] <th> hmmm the de.map.gz is availabl
[22:42] <th> so it's include/quertz-layout.inc missing
[22:46] <netrunner> oh, the wiki has a line-length problem with <pre> text :)
[22:49] <th> netrunner: did you notice anything else besides loadkeys and the /dev/fd problem?
[22:50] <netrunner> th: not yet. :)
[22:50] <th> just let me know.
[22:50] <netrunner> sure
[22:53] <blindcoder> netrunner: how so?
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[22:57] Action: fake packing up stuff
[22:59] <blindcoder> fake: tar cfI /dev/truck /home
[22:59] <fake> cfj ;-)
[22:59] <blindcoder> force of habit
[22:59] <daja77> hi fake
[22:59] Action: fake off moving, see you in a few hours from vienna !
[22:59] <blindcoder> fake: have a good ride
[23:00] <daja77> hf
[23:00] <th> yea - cya fake,
[23:01] Action: daja77 kicking xpdf
[23:02] <th> is subversion stuck again? or is this delay my network here?
[23:02] <th> daja77: there is a beta version for adobe reader 7 out for linux. ;-p
[23:02] <daja77> i know
[23:03] <daja77> but i think finding the reason why fonst like helvetica are missing could be insightful ... 
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[23:11] <th> could anyone please confirm that subversion has a problem on rl.net?
[23:13] <tfing> http://www.rocklinux.net/svn/rock-linux/ does not seem to load at least
[23:14] <daja77> it does not
[23:17] <th> recovering...
[23:17] <th> done
[23:19] <th> perhaps we should get a newer version on the server
[23:20] <blindcoder> might be worth a try
[23:20] <blindcoder> yesterday I was sitting here for around three hours or more to update two trees
[23:21] <th> blindcoder: you can page me to unstuck it again.
[23:21] <blindcoder> th: okay, will note that down :)
[23:21] <th> blindcoder: you should have my number. do you?
[23:22] <blindcoder> th: don't think so
[23:22] <th> ahh i did not call you for the USB case so you dont have it
[23:27] <blindcoder> okay, I'm off to bed
[23:27] <blindcoder> bye
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[23:44] <netrunner> hm. rock switching away from rockplug?
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