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[00:00] <netrunner> ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/ROCK/rocklinux/ROCK-2.0/base/glibc23/glibc-2.3.2.tar.bz2
[00:00] <netrunner> this one was downloaded incorrectly.
[00:01] <netrunner> maybe others. I'll continue checking tomorrow.
[00:01] <netrunner> n8
[00:01] <th> downloding
[00:01] <th> got it
[00:01] <th> yea
[00:01] <th> thats damaged
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[08:07] <blindcoder> moin
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[08:15] <blindcoder> fake: ping
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[08:51] <blindcoder> fake: nevermind
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[10:32] <blindcoder> moin esden 
[10:38] <esden> moin blindcoder 
[10:38] <netrunner> moin esdi/blindi
[10:39] <blindcoder> oh sweet
[10:39] <blindcoder> irssi has hardcoded max_nick_length
[10:40] <blindcoder> it's not like this is different from server to server, now is it?
[10:42] <blindcoder> brb
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[10:51] <fake> blindcoder: that's perfect!
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[10:52] <k7avenger> hi @all
[10:53] <k7avenger> question: my build fails (2.0.0) because of segfaults when e.g. the command 'ls' is done, so i think its a problem of the wrong glibc
[10:54] <k7avenger> so: what library these build-environment is linked against?
[10:58] <blindcoder> fake: thanks
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[11:20] <netrunner> k7avenger: no, the problem is that you chose an optimization that your build pc can't handle.
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[12:44] <owl> hi
[12:44] <blindcoder> moin owl 
[12:44] <owl> hi blindy. 
[12:45] <owl> how are you?
[12:45] <blindcoder> fine, thanks
[12:47] Nick change: BoS -> BoS^rig-up
[12:49] <owl> sigh. :(
[13:15] <owl> gnarf. i'm hating "ohrentropfen"b ::(
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[15:41] <blindcoder> d'oh, I'm so stupid
[15:45] <mnemoc_> if you say so ;)
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[15:49] <treo> moin
[15:50] <mnemoc_> hi treo 
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[17:01] <blindcoder> WEE
[17:01] <blindcoder> xorg finally built staticallp
[17:03] <daja77> but doesn't start up on livecd ...
[17:07] <blindcoder> why not?
[17:09] <fake> daja77: it's surely not static on the livecd.
[17:09] <fake> daja77: is /tmp/.ICE-unix created?
[17:09] <daja77> yes
[17:10] <daja77> this error is strange, no clear message
[17:10] <daja77> Fatal Server Error:
[17:10] <daja77> Caught Signal 4
[17:11] <fake> SIGILL
[17:11] <daja77> could be a qemu problem
[17:11] <fake> definitely
[17:12] <fake> illegal instructuion is unlikely, unless you compiled for a wrong opt.
[17:12] <daja77> p3 opt
[17:12] <daja77> qemu is a pentium right?
[17:13] <mnemoc_> fake: hi, can i mirror blackdown files?
[17:13] <fake> mnemoc_: ask the gentoo guys
[17:13] <mnemoc_> do they?
[17:13] <fake> mnemoc_: they do it, without restrictions. so i guess they will be sued first
[17:14] <mnemoc_> hehe
[17:14] <fake> daja77: yes... pentium mmx, or pentium, not sure
[17:14] <fake> but p3 is definitely to high
[17:14] <blindcoder> does Xorg need ICE-unix?
[17:17] <fake> kde does
[17:17] <fake> iirc
[17:17] <blindcoder> bare X
[17:17] <fake> hm, try it
[17:17] <fake> i can't remember
[17:18] <blindcoder> complains about being unable to create any listeners
[17:18] <blindcoder> no mkdir on LVP :)
[17:18] <daja77> hm strange that the files i wanted were not copied to the home
[17:21] <blindcoder> oh
[17:21] <blindcoder> I think I know what it is...
[17:22] <blindcoder> lemme check...
[17:24] Action: blindcoder whistles unnoticably
[17:24] <blindcoder> I unchecked Unix Sockets in my kernel config...
[17:24] <fake> hehe
[17:24] <blindcoder> for the _third_ time
[17:24] Action: daja77 points and laughs at blindcoder 
[17:25] <blindcoder> :(
[17:25] <daja77> ok testing on real hw
[17:27] <daja77> unknown keyword in config file on the same image that booted on qemu *sigh*
[17:36] <fake> you messed up the bootloader?
[17:37] <daja77> perhaps
[17:38] <daja77> just strange that it works in qemu but gives errors on my laptop
[17:39] <daja77> erh could it be that the kernel keyword has to be in capital letters
[17:39] <fake> i never took a deeper look at isolinux
[17:41] <daja77> would match, it doesn't recognize the livecd entries, or better confusing them with the name of the kernel image
[17:41] <blindcoder>         kernel vmlinuz
[17:41] <blindcoder> that's how I use it in LVP and it works
[17:41] <blindcoder> a full line looks like this:
[17:41] <blindcoder> LABEL dvorak
[17:41] <blindcoder>         kernel vmlinuz
[17:41] <blindcoder>         APPEND root=/dev/ram devfs=nocompat initrd=initrd init=/linuxrc rw quiet keymap=dvorak
[17:41] <blindcoder> working just fine
[17:42] <daja77> ic
[17:52] <blindcoder> what's up with mine?
[17:52] <blindcoder> selector.c: In function `do_selection':
[17:52] <blindcoder> selector.c:543: error: too many arguments to function `init_dialog'
[17:52] <blindcoder> selector.c:548: warning: implicit declaration of function `dlg_put_backtitle'
[18:08] <daja77> *sigh*
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[19:02] <blindcoder> phew, seems the rss feed is getting stable
[19:11] <fake> i have it scrolling at the bottom of one of my monitors all day ;)
[19:19] <blindcoder> fake: :)
[19:19] <blindcoder> fake: guess you'd notify me the moment something went ugly :D
[19:22] <blindcoder> I just wanted to package yarssr
[19:22] <blindcoder> but the gnome dep hell is even worse in Perl
[19:22] <blindcoder> with the needed packages outdated in CPAN and all you gonna wish for
[19:23] <daja77> mnemoc_: mono-doc fails due missing gtkhtml-sharp package, do we have that?
[19:25] <blindcoder> gnarf
[19:25] <blindcoder> now I've spent over a week getting xorg to link statically just to find out that it absolutely sucks compared to xfree
[19:26] <owl> re
[19:26] Action: fake hat sich in postgresql verliebt
[19:26] <blindcoder> love is blind :)
[19:27] <owl> O_o 
[19:27] <daja77> postgres rocks
[19:28] <fake> absolutely
[19:28] <blindcoder> and xorg sucks ;P
[19:29] <SerWou> i have a DB test the next week, i'm using postgresql to learn sql request but i don't understand anything ;)
[19:30] <SerWou> perhaps someone knows where to find a tut to learn SQL from scratch here ?
[19:31] <fake> SQL?
[19:31] <fake> SQL 92 ? 99?
[19:32] <fake> i'm sure there are quite a few tutorials out in the wild
[19:32] <fake> i'd take a look at the google directory for a start
[19:32] <SerWou> i don't know what is the difference between SQL 92 and 99
[19:32] <SerWou> whatever, i will find some
[19:34] <fake> good luck!
[19:35] <SerWou> thanks
[19:36] Action: fake off for today
[19:36] <SerWou> also, i have to learn PHP, Javascript and XML, i haven't follow teach recomandations ;)
[19:42] <owl> bye fake 
[19:42] <owl> hmmmm. all inone..<ß
[19:42] <owl> argh. sorry... 
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[20:00] <mnemoc_> daja77: gtksharp makes that binding
[20:01] <daja77> hm built that
[20:01] <mnemoc_> daja77: i guess the thing to bind was not available on that minute
[20:01] <mnemoc_> i haven't built something with X in almost a year :\
[20:02] <daja77> ah so i need to add gtkhtml perhaps
[20:02] <mnemoc_> pkgsel or new package?
[20:02] <daja77> pkgsel
[20:02] <mnemoc_> :)
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[22:21] <treo> gn8
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[22:24] <daja77> re
[22:30] Action: netrunner switched his idea from going to romania to going to russia.
[22:30] <daja77> ?
[22:30] Action: daja77 switched his mind to leaving the party and goin online again ^^
[22:32] <mnemoc_> do you know russian? how would you say something like "we know what you are doing"?
[22:33] <mnemoc_> using normal chars please :p
[22:47] <esden_> hi ho everyone
[22:47] <mnemoc_> hi esden_ 
[22:48] <daja77> hi esden_ 
[22:48] Action: esden_ has the first THC like hardware ;)
[22:49] <esden_> www.esden.net/gallery <- look
[22:49] <mnemoc_> not found
[22:50] <mnemoc_> thc/gallery :)
[22:50] <mnemoc_> with a real camara now! ;)
[22:50] <esden_> yes ;)
[22:51] Nick change: esden_ -> esden
[22:54] <esden> the final thc will have compleatly different display because the one on the photos will be too power consuming and moving objects get really blurry on it (and it will be probably too expensive in the end)
[22:54] <esden> but it is another step towords THC ;)
[22:55] <mnemoc_> is that your thesis or /just a dream/?
[22:56] <esden> "just a dream"
[22:56] <esden> but who knows ... perhups I will make it to my thesis ;)
[22:56] <esden> why not
[22:57] Action: daja77 got his thesis proposal today
[22:57] <mnemoc_> what?
[22:58] <daja77> a suggestion what could be my diploma
[22:58] <daja77> the first paper listed in the references is my studienarbeit :D
[22:59] <mnemoc_> s/what/what is it about/
[23:00] <daja77> about transforming programs into runtime simulations of themselves
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[23:02] <mnemoc_> daja77: what kind of programs?
[23:02] <daja77> mathematical
[23:02] <daja77> c programs
[23:04] <mnemoc_> OT: do you know/remember russian language? i'm righting a notifing bot like CIA called KGB and i want a /cool/ quit message
[23:05] <daja77> nu pogodi
[23:06] <mnemoc_> what means?
[23:07] <th> "got you"?
[23:08] <daja77> famous words from a russian comic
[23:08] <daja77> hm no
[23:09] <mnemoc_> no what? it doesn't mean "got you" or you changed your mind about the messagE?
[23:09] <daja77> the meaning
[23:10] <th> more like "I'll get you!" i guess
[23:11] <daja77> yes
[23:11] <mnemoc_> future
[23:11] <daja77> yes
[23:11] <mnemoc_> nice, thanks :)
[23:11] <mnemoc_> https://video.alkar.net/browse/movie/ru/626.html
[23:15] <mnemoc_> Viacheslav Kotenochkin was a Russian comics artsit who created 'Nu, pogodi!' ('Just You wait!'), about a wolf and a rabbit. It was also made into an animated film. Viacheslav Kotenochkin also contributed comics to Daga magazine.
[23:15] <th> "just you wait" is a terrible translation
[23:15] <th> guess it's done by machine.
[23:15] <mnemoc_> :)
[23:16] <mnemoc_> daja77: did mono-doc build?
[23:17] <daja77> haven't tried again
[23:19] <esden> th: it is being always translated this way
[23:19] <esden> nu, popodi zajec ... this expression is burnd deep in my mind
[23:20] <esden> we had russian tv in poland (one channel) ... and I was watching the series with wolf and the rabbit often ... on russian
[23:20] <esden> the wolf always said that to the rabbit when the rabbit tricked the wolf
[23:20] <esden> funny series
[23:21] <esden> I really ask myself if it is somewhere in some archive
[23:21] <esden> I would like to see it once more ;)
[23:21] <esden> ok ... good night everyone
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[23:22] <mnemoc_> esden: what "nu, popodi _zajec_" means?
[23:25] <daja77> rabbit
[23:27] <mnemoc_> ic
[23:28] <mnemoc_> esden: https://video.alkar.net/browse/movie/ru/626.html
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