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[08:26] <[anders2]> have I missed madtux again?
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[10:52] <netrunner> [anders]: he didn't appear so far :)
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[12:44] <netrunner> just another error that is not catched. what happened to our build scripts?
[12:47] <blindcoder> moin
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[13:26] <treo> moin
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[14:52] <blindcoder> hehe
[14:52] <blindcoder> grub on serial line :)
[14:52] <blindcoder> this is sweet ;)
[14:55] <netrunner> that's easy :)
[14:55] <blindcoder> yes
[14:56] <blindcoder> and once you find out that /boot/vmlinz is not a symlink to vmlinux_$ver (as initrd.img is) you also get a console on ttyS0 :)
[14:57] <blindcoder> (never mind typos)
[14:57] <netrunner> blindcoder: I understand you perfectly :)
[14:58] Action: netrunner nowadays more often reboots his pcs since bootsplash works fine now :)
[14:58] <blindcoder> heh
[14:58] <blindcoder> nah, I just removed the vga card from my server-to-be
[14:58] <netrunner> I once sold it :)
[14:58] <blindcoder> now I'm trying to think of things that need to be installed on it and I've forgetten
[14:59] <netrunner> blindcoder: that's what I am currently trying in a qemu. nice thing that one.
[14:59] <blindcoder> indeed :)
[14:59] <netrunner> blindcoder: I have installed my recent server build and try to see if it does what I want.
[14:59] <blindcoder> probably not :)
[14:59] <blindcoder> hell knows what it is you want *run*
[15:00] <blindcoder> oh well, guess I'll make lunch now
[15:00] <blindcoder> the kitchen is fixed as is the power grid
[15:00] <blindcoder> so I guess I deserve some good food now :D
[15:00] <blindcoder> bbl
[15:00] <netrunner> an guadn
[15:06] <blindcoder> bah
[15:06] <blindcoder> need to cook the rice first
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[17:40] <netrunner> http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005042739,00.html
[18:47] <owl> someone has a pumpgun for me?
[18:56] <blindcoder> sure, but no ammunition
[18:56] <owl> dammit. :(
[18:57] <owl> but - i now can understand people who kill others...
[18:58] Action: blindcoder asks himself if he wants to know...
[18:58] <owl> school is just there, that teacher are learning stuff educated from the pupils, isn't it?
[19:01] <owl> why are teachers always those fscking "nagervergewaltiger"?!!!
[19:03] <blindcoder> they are fucking hamsters/
[19:03] <blindcoder> ?
[19:04] <owl> nope. they're fscking mice... or why else do they want a GUI everytime?
[19:04] <blindcoder> hehe
[19:04] <blindcoder> the mouse as an HID is way overrated
[19:04] <blindcoder> I mean
[19:04] <blindcoder> look at _any_ science fiction movie
[19:05] <blindcoder> I've fscking _never_ seen anything else but a keyboard in one
[19:05] <owl> well. but it' soooooooooooooo comfortable. 
[19:05] <owl> hehe. ack. 
[19:05] <blindcoder> do they want a _G_UI or just a _UI_?
[19:06] <owl> well. i have nothing against mice.. but -  imho someone sohould be able to choose and so...
[19:06] <owl> GUI... 
[19:06] <blindcoder> you know, simple write(stdout and read(stdin is also a UI :)
[19:06] <blindcoder> yes, and they choose to make you create a GUI :D
[19:06] <daja77> blindcoder: what the hell were you doin in that kitchen?
[19:07] <blindcoder> making dinner
[19:07] <owl> *g* yeah. but they want a project with presentation & documentation ... and want the pupils to explain the crap... and: the only things which are strictly needed: accesing a DB, having a GUI, wirting doc and having presentation. 
[19:07] <blindcoder> owl: ah, so you're talking about the "Abschlusspruefung" for FIAE
[19:07] <owl> blindcoder: yes. they... but not /me chosing
[19:08] <owl> blindcoder: bwahahahahaahahahaha. nope. "berufsschulunterricht"... 
[19:08] <blindcoder> well, you want them to give you a good mark so just cope with it
[19:08] <blindcoder> my teacher wanted to throw me out because he was afraid of me hacking the school network with my linux laptopt through the power grid(!)
[19:09] <blindcoder> so just be reminded that "Lehrjahre sind keine Herrenjahre"
[19:09] <owl> last year - there was a external person who told us stuff about databases(/php/etc. - this year, nobody explains us such a stuff.. now the pupils are teaching the teaser... aeh. teacher
[19:09] <blindcoder> yes, that was how it was in my school days, too
[19:09] <blindcoder> it's normal
[19:10] <owl> blindcoder: hehehe. did i mention that 'FI*'-training is senseless?
[19:10] <blindcoder> it is
[19:10] <blindcoder> it always has been
[19:10] <blindcoder> but it's the system
[19:10] <blindcoder> if you don't like it, you're free to emigrate to the US
[19:10] <owl> to the US? O_o no, never. 
[19:10] <blindcoder> then don't complain, it's as easy as that
[19:11] <owl> nope. 
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[19:11] <owl> it's not easy. i'm not doing an training as 'arschlochgucker', but as programmer
[19:12] <owl> reality? i guess all here is real... i mean  the life around me... but - why not trying to change it?
[19:12] <blindcoder> you're not, that's the problem
[19:12] <blindcoder> did you argue reasonable with the teacher?
[19:12] <blindcoder> and not like "GUIs are shit"?
[19:12] <owl> blindcoder: i wasn't at school for weeks... i've just heared that we have to do it... 
[19:13] <blindcoder> well, then maybe you should have been at school
[19:14] <owl> why? to hear the teacher's crap and cutting again? nah... (and: i still won't be at school for some weeks... cuz of my insomnie)
[19:14] <owl> a
[19:14] <blindcoder> sooo.... you're complaining about something you don't have to do because you won't be at school anyway?
[19:15] <owl> well. i 'm quite sure that i have to do it... cuz the teacher  will mark it...
[19:15] <blindcoder> then you can still have a reasonable argument about user interfaces with him
[19:16] <owl> why? 
[19:16] <blindcoder> I want to have your attention span >_<
[19:16] <owl> hm?
[19:16] <blindcoder> didn't you just flame about how you hate it to have to make a gui?
[19:17] <owl> i hate many things... i hate it, to teach a teaser. i hate it to explain some dumb people the stuff i have to do. and i hate all the crap here (docu, presentation)
[19:18] <blindcoder> they're part of the FIAE job
[19:18] <blindcoder> if you don't like it, change jobs
[19:18] <blindcoder> otherwise you can emigrate to the US where they still have cubicles
[19:18] <blindcoder> but I doubt you'll be safe from docu and presentation there, anyway
[19:19] <owl> why part of my job? how many peple have you seen writing a doc about "some strange DB with even more strange programming-language with random-chosen-project for dumb people"?
[19:19] <blindcoder> just about any FIAE (and FISI, btw) that I've seen
[19:20] <blindcoder> which amount to roughly 6 "jahrgaenge" with at least 10 groups each
[19:20] <blindcoder> so round about 600
[19:20] <netcrow> no one forces you to work with the fiae/fisi-apprenticeship
[19:20] <owl> omfg. 
[19:20] <blindcoder> netcrow: indeed
[19:21] <netcrow> owl: its your choice!
[19:21] <owl> netcrow: well. what to choose? shit, shit and even more shit? 
[19:22] <netcrow> take another job? 
[19:22] <owl> netcrow: which one? examples? who wants a FIAE? 
[19:24] <netcrow> "ausgelernt?"
[19:24] <owl> netcrow: not yet. but - if you are in state of being 'ausgelernt'
[20:13] <tcr> owl: Be smart. Write a flexible once and for all, than reuse that one.
[20:13] <tcr> +GUI
[20:13] <owl> tcr: nah. will write something which could be used for my project, too.... but -it's still senseless... 
[20:16] Action: blindcoder hands owl xdialog
[20:17] <blindcoder> "What? *innocent smile* It's a GUI, no?"
[20:17] <blindcoder> on the other hand, a smiling owl would relly freak e out
[20:19] <owl> heh. i'm quite often smiling these days :p
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[20:20] <owl> *lol* poor blindy :p
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