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[00:52] <marcd> hello, I am looking for one of the authors of hotplug++
[00:53] <SMP> try #t2
[00:53] <marcd> ok thanks
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[07:51] <SerWou> hello the chan
[08:47] <SerWou> is there a way to launch several actions at the same time ?
[08:49] <blindcoder> moin
[08:49] <blindcoder> SerWou: what you want to do?
[08:49] <SerWou> launch 5 wget at the same time
[08:50] <blindcoder> what about '&' ?
[08:50] <blindcoder> wget a & ; wget b & ; wget c & ; wget d & ; wget e &;
[08:50] <SerWou> i know && who launch the next one after the previous one is over 
[08:50] <blindcoder> but why do you want to do that?
[08:50] <SerWou> to make a big bandwith test
[08:50] <SerWou> by the way, do you know fast FTP servers ?
[08:51] <blindcoder> ftp.kernel.org
[08:53] <SerWou> i have to test an internet connection who can download at 800Ko/sec at least, gonna run several wget at the same time on several FTP servers during a limited time, stop them and make a division between the time of download and the size of the download folder
[08:54] <blindcoder> take the kernel.org mirrors
[08:54] <blindcoder> or the sf.net mirrors
[08:55] <SerWou> ok, thanks
[09:16] <SerWou> goddamned
[09:16] <SerWou> and to stop them ? ;)
[09:16] <blindcoder> killall wget
[09:16] <SerWou> that's what's i'm doing ;)
[09:17] <blindcoder> or use job control
[09:17] <SerWou> what*
[09:17] <SerWou> job control ?
[09:17] <blindcoder> the commands jobs and fg
[09:17] <SerWou> ok
[09:17] <blindcoder> as well as 'kill %1' 'kill %2' ...
[09:17] <SerWou> thanks for the help
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[09:17] <blindcoder> moin [anders-mcafee] 
[09:17] <[anders-mcafee]> moin blindcoder 
[09:17] <[anders-mcafee]> wie gehts?
[09:18] <blindcoder> great, thanks
[09:18] <blindcoder> how about you?
[09:22] <netrunner> http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/02/sha1_broken.html
[09:23] <[anders-mcafee]> blindcoder: I'm alright.. struggling to comprehend an instant messaging problem..
[09:26] <blindcoder> [anders-mcafee]: and here I was thinking that IM _was_ the problem :)
[09:35] <[anders-mcafee]> blindcoder: it is.. :)
[09:36] <blindcoder> I see :-)
[09:37] <[anders-mcafee]> well, how it talks to the servers is the real problem.. and how to force it to talk to the servers a certain way
[09:38] <blindcoder> hmm
[09:38] <blindcoder> I have no idea about that :(
[09:39] <[anders-mcafee]> it is interesting that when you tell a windows IM client to use a proxy, it connects to the server with POST and GET commands
[09:39] <[anders-mcafee]> a linux IM client does a CONNECT in the proxy request
[09:39] <blindcoder> well, CONNECT is the elegant way :-)
[09:40] <[anders-mcafee]> indeed
[09:40] <blindcoder> at least that's how transconnect, putty and blindcoder-call-home-manually does it
[09:41] <[anders-mcafee]> corkscrew uses the same way
[09:41] <[anders-mcafee]> GAIM and Kopete doesn't seem to switch on SSL in the CONNECT command though
[09:42] <netrunner> that shouldn't matter as the proxy is supposed to route the traffic through.
[09:43] <[anders-mcafee]> netrunner: aye...
[09:44] <[anders-mcafee]> if it gets to the proxy... there may be things in the way intercepting the traffic
[09:45] <blindcoder> hmm
[09:45] <blindcoder> I'm using it only to tunnel ssh to port 443 where a ssh/https multiplexer is then listening :)
[09:45] <blindcoder> netrunner: we should really package taht program :D
[09:46] <netrunner> blindcoder: jup.
[09:47] <netrunner> [anders-mcafee]: some proxies only allow CONNECT to port 443. that may not be your IM's favourite port.
[09:56] <fake> moin
[09:56] <blindcoder> moin fake 
[10:18] <owl> moin *
[10:28] <fake> http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/02/sha1_broken.html
[10:28] <blindcoder> two and counting
[10:28] <fake> oops
[10:28] <fake> sry
[10:29] <blindcoder> nm
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[10:29] Topic changed on #rocklinux by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.: ROCK Linux 2.0.4 coming soon.
[10:29] <blindcoder> baeh :P
[10:29] <blindcoder> just set +t on the chan then :P
[10:30] <th> it's more fun this way ;)
[10:30] <blindcoder> I'm too used to #nethack* I think :(
[10:31] <tfing> hi all
[10:32] <blindcoder> moin tfing 
[10:32] <tfing> does anyone go to the fosdem this year ?
[10:32] <blindcoder> where is it?
[10:32] <th> brussels
[10:32] <tfing> on feb 26/27
[10:33] <blindcoder> so soon. then probably not :(
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[14:28] <netrunner> nice, when my gf's pc does not work, she switches my build server on. 
[14:28] <netrunner> next time I forget to switch my build server on, I lock her internet access :)
[14:29] <fake> hehe
[14:30] <owl> lol, netrunner 
[14:34] <netrunner> hm, when I program sth in c++ and compile it under cygwin, I only need to put the cygwin.dll in the directory of the .exe, no?
[14:41] <tcr> netrunner, No. I think the resulting .exe is supposed to be run under cygwin.
[14:41] <tcr> It's not as easy as that...
[14:45] <th> no
[14:45] <th> the .dll is enough
[14:45] <th> at least that holds true for c programs
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[15:24] <netrunner> th: assumed I link it statically, no?
[15:29] <th> netrunner: aehm. yes i think so
[16:31] <netrunner> hm. account balance: 0 :(
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[17:04] <treo> hi
[17:04] <netrunner> hi treo
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[17:12] <treo> re
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[18:15] <SerWou> looking for a speek recognition programs
[18:15] <SerWou> viavoice is not free
[18:15] <SerWou> xvoice is based on viavoice
[18:16] <SerWou> sphynx uses java and i don't have it installed on rock, and it looks like a pain to install it
[18:17] <SerWou> any idea ?
[18:17] <daja77> huh? java is not hard to install ...
[18:20] <SerWou> i'm open if you teach me
[18:20] <SerWou> ;)
[18:20] <daja77> teaching what?
[18:20] <daja77> unpack it and set the java_home variable
[18:21] <SerWou> i have that j2re-1_4_2_07-linux-i586.rpm
[18:21] <SerWou> unpack ?
[18:21] <daja77> rpm -i j2*.rpm
[18:21] <SerWou> gonna show you the result
[18:21] <daja77> but well you can get tarballs for java too
[18:21] <SerWou> error: Failed dependencies:
[18:21] <SerWou>         glibc >= 2.1.2-11 is needed by j2re-1.4.2_07-fcs
[18:21] <SerWou>         sh-utils >= 2.0-1 is needed by j2re-1.4.2_07-fcs
[18:21] <SerWou>         fileutils >= 4.0-8 is needed by j2re-1.4.2_07-fcs
[18:21] <SerWou>         gawk >= 3.0.4-1 is needed by j2re-1.4.2_07-fcs
[18:22] <SerWou>         textutils >= 2.0-2 is needed by j2re-1.4.2_07-fcs
[18:22] <SerWou>         /bin/sh is needed by j2re-1.4.2_07-fcs
[18:22] <daja77> get the tarball
[18:22] <SerWou> i didn't find the tarball, let's me look for the tarball
[18:22] <daja77> java.sun.com
[18:24] <SerWou> RPM in self-extracting file  (j2re-1_4_2_07-linux-i586-rpm.bin) or self-extracting file  (j2re-1_4_2_07-linux-i586.bin)
[18:26] <daja77> use the selfextracting file
[18:31] <SerWou> self-extracting file  (j2re-1_4_2_07-linux-i586.bin
[18:31] <SerWou> done
[18:31] <SerWou> that's all ?
[18:38] <SerWou> i don't have the jar command
[18:41] <SerWou> daja77 ?
[18:48] <daja77> start it ...
[18:54] <SerWou> i did 
[18:54] <SerWou> it works
[18:54] <SerWou> and that's all
[18:54] <fake> the official 1.4.x tarballs won't work
[18:54] <daja77> ok
[18:55] <fake> ... or your rock version is really old
[18:55] <SerWou> 2.0.1
[18:55] <fake> ah, jep, that works
[18:55] <daja77> fake: libstdc++ related?
[18:55] <fake> (the self-extracing executable unzip thing used head -<number>. edit it and the checksum's worng)
[18:56] <daja77> ah
[18:56] <fake> daja77: no, once extracted it works fine
[18:56] <fake> and, as tip:
[18:56] <daja77> i have a 1.5beta sth installed 
[18:56] <fake> SerWou: if you move the created directory into /opt, you don't have to adopt $PATH
[18:56] <fake> just do this:
[18:57] <fake> echo 'export JAVA_HOME=/opt/<whatever that directory is named>' > /etc/profile.d/java
[18:57] <fake> then log out, log in again and it works.
[18:57] <fake> or do a '. /etc/profile' (though that will only affect the current shell, not newly started ones)
[18:58] <fake> daja77: 1.5.0_01 is out, and the head -n-thing is fixed there
[18:58] <daja77> i know
[18:58] <SerWou> slowly slowly ;)
[18:58] <daja77> only need java for playing go atm, so ...
[18:58] <fake> oh ;)
[18:59] <daja77> no blogging anymore?
[18:59] <fake> actually, i have a few java rock linux packages... but i am not allowed to redistribute them, because i run a nuclear power facility and am evil no matter what.
[18:59] <daja77> hehe
[18:59] <fake> daja77: not now. the entries would ne annoying.
[18:59] <daja77> hehe
[18:59] <daja77> yeah as mine for learning, but it stopped now :)
[19:00] <SerWou> echo 'export JAVA_HOME=/opt/sun_java' > /etc/profile.d/java
[19:00] <daja77> fake: should i use glibc 2.3.4 in my next build (system should work afterwards)
[19:00] <SerWou> what is the second option ?
[19:01] <fake> daja77: no.
[19:01] <fake> SerWou: the second option?
[19:01] <daja77> ic heard sth is broken, dunno what
[19:01] <SerWou> ./etc/profile ?
[19:01] <fake> SerWou: the /etc/profile.d/* files get effective for the whole system once you log-out and then log-in again
[19:01] <fake> you can check temporarily wether it will work by doiung
[19:02] <fake> . /etc/profile
[19:02] <fake> (mind the space between the . and the /)
[19:02] <daja77> .oO (midn the gap)
[19:02] <SerWou> ok
[19:02] Action: daja77 could try americas army under rock
[19:03] <fake> then, java -version should tell you some stuff
[19:03] <fake> daja77: i got it on 21c3, but my tarball was broken
[19:03] <daja77> i got a linux games magazine with dvd
[19:03] <fake> a linux games magazine? wow! i missed something...
[19:04] <daja77> gamestar special edition
[19:04] <fake> aw...
[19:04] <daja77> suse 9.1 on that dvd as well ^^ 
[19:04] <fake> i was wondering. though there are quite a few games for linux, i doubt a regular series would be possible ;)
[19:04] <daja77> fake: have you seen the list in the blog?
[19:04] <fake> y e t
[19:05] <fake> daja77: sure
[19:05] <daja77> ;)
[19:05] <daja77> there is a cedega 45 days trail as well
[19:06] Action: daja77 thought we already had a vegastrike package, vut haven't found one
[19:07] <SerWou> it did nothing fake
[19:07] <fake> java -version did nothing?
[19:07] <fake> . /etc/profile doesn't produce any output, that's right
[19:07] <fake> it just re-evaluates some settings, like your PATH variable and stuff
[19:08] <SerWou> no java cmd
[19:08] <SerWou> whereis java
[19:08] <SerWou> java: /usr/include/java /usr/share/java
[19:08] <fake> but there is a /opt/sun_java/bin/java , right?
[19:09] <SerWou> it means i have to launch again the installer ?
[19:09] <fake> not yet sure - depends what's in /opt/sun_java
[19:09] <SerWou> nothing
[19:10] <fake> well, then it'll hardly work ;)
[19:10] <SerWou> i guess so ;)
[19:10] <fake> the installer you started created a directory in the directory you started it in
[19:10] <fake> just move the contens of that directory to /opt/sun_java
[19:10] <fake> like
[19:10] <SerWou> ok, i see
[19:10] <fake> mv j2sdk_1.4.2_0whatever/* /opt/sun_java
[19:11] <fake> then do the '. /etc/profile' again and try java -version again
[19:14] <fake> so - have you been disconnected or does it work?
[19:15] <fake> hurry, i want to get drunk now ;)
[19:15] <daja77> hehe considered that too
[19:15] <fake> damn day
[19:16] <fake> i hate snow
[19:16] <fake> i hate winter
[19:16] <daja77> yes me too
[19:17] <fake> jah, whatever. i'll go now. good luck serwou, and cheers daja
[19:17] <SerWou> thanks
[19:17] <SerWou> i haven't found where java is installed :(
[19:17] <daja77> cheers fake
[19:17] <SerWou> that's a pain
[19:17] <SerWou> whatever, thanks
[19:17] <SerWou> see you mate
[19:18] <fake> SerWou: in a directory created where you started the binary.
[19:18] <fake> most likely named j2re-1.4.7_somethingorother
[19:18] <fake> bye!
[19:19] <SerWou> ha ok
[19:58] <owl> moin
[19:59] <owl> someone wants 'migraene' ? i'm selling it for free...
[20:21] <owl> dieser daemliche ebay wichser hat auch noch nix zurueckueberwiesen, und hat nich sich per mail gemeldet
[20:23] <owl> bwahaha. bei 1 & 1 is dsl hier verfugbar. ja. klar. und ich heiss hase.
[20:23] <owl> *hoppel* *hoppel+
[20:23] <owl> arhg. wrong channel. shit. sorry.
[20:42] <SerWou> hehe owl
[20:55] <owl> goth. t-offline-workers are REALLY strange. 
[20:55] <owl> sounded like a erotic hotline or so 
[20:55] <owl> god... now i'm dead because of laughing.
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[22:42] <treo> gn8 @ all
[22:42] <owl> gn8 treo 
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[23:17] <daja77> blindcoder: ?
[23:18] Action: netrunner is still not sure if it is to boycott skype or not.
[23:18] Action: mnemoc pukes over skype
[23:18] <daja77> mnemoc: please not while phoning me
[23:18] <mnemoc> :p
[23:19] <mnemoc> daja77: i'll try
[23:25] Action: netrunner annoying random people while evaluating $evilsoftware
[23:26] <SMP> it lures you into the dark side ...
[23:27] <netrunner> SMP: unlikely, it tells me I have no audio device ;)
[23:27] <netrunner> SMP: I think I'll better join that global asterisk network.
[23:28] <SMP> hehe
[23:28] <SMP> that, and hook your asterisk up to a sipgate account
[23:29] <netrunner> SMP: jup. only think I still need is a flat.
[23:30] <SMP> a flatrate? why don't you already?
[23:34] <netrunner> SMP: didn't find one I could afford by the time I set up this appartment. now I am looking around for sth better.
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[23:34] <netrunner> SMP: I thought about that arcor thing ... but now I read that T will lower their prices ...
[23:35] <SMP> don't the offer discounts on the flatrates under the uni@home program?
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[23:37] <daja77> netrunner: load the snd oss driver
[23:41] <netrunner> daja77: yes, but why can't it use alsa? :)
[23:42] <daja77> it is planned to support it in the future ...
[23:45] <netrunner> daja77: why can't it be OS? :)
[23:45] <daja77> why are you asking me ...
[23:47] <netrunner> daja77: oh, thought you are expert ;)
[23:47] Action: netrunner trying to get iaxcomm to life
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[23:53] <owl> re
[23:53] <daja77> netrunner: i am not employed there
[23:56] <netrunner> daja77: hey, I am only kidding :)
[23:56] <daja77> i know ^^
[23:59] <mnemoc> *g*
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