WebHosting Paid by #1Payday.Loans
[02:27] mnemoc (~amery@200.75.27.44) left irc: "leaving" [02:44] mnemoc (~amery@200.75.27.44) joined #rocklinux. [04:06] netrunne1 (~andreas@pD9E8D84B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [04:24] netrunner (~andreas@pD9E8C136.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:24] Nick change: netrunne1 -> netrunner [06:29] [anders-mcafee] (~snafu@82-68-84-60.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:27] <blindcoder> moin [08:47] <blindcoder> looks like I'll be having something to write about in the next newsletter [08:58] <netrunner> :( [09:07] [anders-mcafee] (~snafu@213.208.70.155) joined #rocklinux. [09:08] <blindcoder> yeah [09:10] <blindcoder> well, the discussion about submaster is about as old as submaster itself [09:12] <netrunner> I wonder if it's worth it. [09:13] <blindcoder> submaster? or the discussion around it? [09:16] <netrunner> both. If a central tool is so bad that half the team quits, there should be something changed. [09:16] <blindcoder> well, I think it makes sense that some things go through a janitor and/or discussion for review [09:16] <blindcoder> The problem is that there is only one janitor (clifford) and hardly ever any discussion [09:17] <blindcoder> well, you don't need to use sm for anything else but patch committing [09:17] <blindcoder> that's what I do [09:17] <blindcoder> I use svn for tree management and a shellscript using curl to commit patches [09:25] <blindcoder> netrunner: you'll be at CLT? [09:25] <netrunner> blindcoder: yes [09:26] <blindcoder> netrunner: good. maybe we can have a talk with clifford and work something out together [09:26] <blindcoder> preferrably before midnight :) [09:54] <tfing> hi [09:54] <tfing> blindcoder: while i think of it, did you write subtitles for bof_21c3.avi ? [09:56] Action: fake will not be on clt... have fun [10:10] <netrunner> fake: no spare time? [10:10] <blindcoder> tfing: due to lack of a usable subbing program, no :( [10:11] <blindcoder> tried ksubtile but its interface to mplayer is horrible [10:11] <blindcoder> not to say crap or unusable [10:11] <blindcoder> fake: I thought your company pays the trip? [10:12] <tfing> blindcoder: ok [10:22] mnemoc (~amery@200.75.27.44) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:25] mnemoc (~amery@200.75.27.33) joined #rocklinux. [10:39] <netrunner> any good point for starting linux kernel driver development? (besides /usr/src/linux) [10:40] <blindcoder> Writing Linux Kernel Modules [10:40] <blindcoder> I think that's the booktitle [10:40] <blindcoder> esden read it IIRC [10:40] <blindcoder> praenti should also have it [10:41] <blindcoder> if all else fails, ask hannes [10:41] <netrunner> hm. I want to write a driver for my sd card reader. [10:41] <blindcoder> I know that he wrote a few [10:41] <blindcoder> yes, that book should be good for that [10:42] <netrunner> blindcoder: do you think I need specifications from the manufacturer (ricoh) for that? [10:43] <blindcoder> netrunner: that would probably help, but I have no idea about writing drivers [10:43] <blindcoder> netrunner: ask hannes, he wrote a driver for a storage device [10:43] <blindcoder> netrunner: that was a lot bigger than a sd card reader, but still :) [10:54] kasc_ (kasc@dsl-082-083-138-085.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [10:56] <SerWou> Hello the Chan [11:04] <blindcoder> hi SerWou [11:04] <SerWou> morning blindcoder [11:04] <SerWou> how are you ? [11:06] <blindcoder> fine, more or less. still fighting with a vital lesson I learned yesterday: look at the best-before-end of milk before consuming it [11:07] <SerWou> lolol [11:07] <SerWou> you consumed it but it was out-of-date ? [11:08] <blindcoder> yeah, a week over [11:08] <fake> blindcoder, netrunner: it's the only weekend my stepfather can spare to help me move [11:08] <blindcoder> fake: ah, okay. Have fun :) [11:09] <fake> "fun" and my stepfather are not compatible. [11:09] kasc (kasc@dsl-082-083-138-176.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:09] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [11:09] <blindcoder> fake: well, _you_ should have fun, not him [11:09] <fake> i'll have fun as soon as he leaves ;-) [11:09] Action: fake is so ev1l [11:10] <blindcoder> hehe [11:10] <blindcoder> any pics of your new flat yet? [11:11] <fake> nope, not yet. i'm gonna sign the contract at 1500 [11:11] <fake> then i get the key, and then there will be pics [11:11] Action: blindcoder looking forward [11:11] <fake> so am i ;) [11:12] <blindcoder> hehe, yes [11:12] <blindcoder> I can imagine that [11:16] <SerWou> what is the max size of a file in fat32 ? 2GB ? [11:17] <netrunner> SerWou: I recently installed xp onmy lap using a 4GB fat32 partition. [11:18] <blindcoder> netrunner: file, not filesystem [11:18] <SerWou> yes, the partition [11:18] <blindcoder> SerWou: 2^31-1 Bytes [11:18] <SerWou> what about 1 file [11:18] <blindcoder> SerWou: so almost 2 GB [11:19] <tfing> netrunner: monday morning is hard for the eyes heh [11:19] <SerWou> hehe [11:20] <SerWou> thanks [11:39] <fake> hrmpf [11:39] <fake> i have to reboot this mac... itunes is freaking out [12:24] <daja77> fake: will clifford be there? [12:36] blindcod1r (~blindcode@dsl-082-083-226-213.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [12:36] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-082-083-227-207.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [12:37] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [13:25] <SerWou> is # make a comment in a .DESC ? ;) [13:25] <SerWou> without ';)' at the end of my sentence [13:29] <daja77> yes [13:29] <SerWou> thanks [13:33] <fake> daja77: clifford is not involved in my moving plans ;) [13:33] treo (~xfman@Da550.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [13:34] <fake> y e t *g* [13:34] <treo> moin [14:11] <blindcoder> daja77: clifford is holding a talk at CLT, no? [14:12] <SerWou> i emerge pango 1.4.1 and i still have this error : checking Pango flags... -I/opt/gnome24/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include [......] [14:12] <SerWou> configure: error: [14:12] <SerWou> *** Can't link to Pango. Pango is required to build [14:12] <mnemoc> re [14:13] <blindcoder> SerWou: that's a problem with automake [14:13] <SerWou> humm humm humm [14:13] <blindcoder> SerWou: check where pango installed its .pc files and make sure autotools can find them [14:13] <blindcoder> moin mnemoc [14:14] <mnemoc> moin blindcoder :) [14:16] <SerWou> one more shoot blindcoder please ;) [14:16] <SerWou> first, how to find these .pc files and how to check autotools ? [14:22] <blindcoder> find /opt/ -name '*.pc' [14:23] <blindcoder> SerWou: sorry, that's pkg-config, not autotools [14:24] <blindcoder> SerWou: just look where there are already some .pc files in /usr/share/somewhere and link them [14:24] <fake> echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH [14:24] <fake> or so [14:28] <SerWou> for find /opt/ -name '*.pc' i have some answers in /opt/gnome24/lib/pkgconfig, /opt/gnome/lib/pkgconfig, some in /opt/xfce/lib/pkgconfig and /opt/e17/lib/pkgconfig and /opt/qt33/lib/pkgconfig, and find /usr/share/ -name '*.pc' [14:28] <SerWou> /usr/share/doc/slang/INSTALL.pc [14:36] <blindcoder> SerWou: and what's your $PKG_CONFIG_PATH? [14:49] <SerWou> echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH [14:49] <SerWou> /opt/gnome24/bin/gdk-pixbuf-csource [14:50] <SerWou> i had to set it like this to compile a program some minutes ago [14:51] <blindcoder> IIRC it has to be set to all paths containing .pc files. check your /etc/profile.d/ directory where this variable is set [14:56] <SerWou> ok, thanks [15:59] <daja77> blindcoder: i hope so ;) [16:00] <fake> daja77: i'm sad i can't come, but on the other hand, i'm glad to get my flat done... [16:01] <daja77> yes sure [16:01] <daja77> fake: so I should change your status in the db i guess [16:01] <fake> :( [16:02] <daja77> don't worry, we'll see each other this year i think ;) [16:04] <fake> we already did, didn't we ? [16:04] <fake> well.. i couldn't see straight... so... [16:04] <daja77> hehe [16:04] <fake> let's agree that we should have seen each other ;-) [16:04] <daja77> me neither ... [16:05] <fake> boy was i stoned - boy was the party horrible - almost a classic. [16:05] <daja77> hehehe [16:05] <daja77> i was drunk at least [16:08] <blindcoder> fake: so, you're going to host devmeeting 2005? :D [16:09] <fake> well, i guess it's a bit small for that, and parking is horrible... [16:09] <fake> but devmeeting this year in vienna is fine with me ;) [16:10] <daja77> for me too ^^ [16:10] <fake> hah, i just created init script support for forked packages [16:11] <fake> rc [16:11] <blindcoder> now, correct download support for forked packages would be something [16:13] <fake> i fork away instances of the same tar.bz2 atm, so that's not an issue... [16:13] <fake> ... i can handle at work. [16:13] <fake> ;-) [16:14] <blindcoder> well, ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg linux26 --> linux24 gets downloaded [16:14] <fake> i know. [16:14] <blindcoder> well, ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg import=cpan-bla --> _all_ cpan gets downloaded :( [16:15] <netrunner> blindcoder: patches against that are in submaster. [16:15] <netrunner> blindcoder: against the latter. [16:15] <blindcoder> netrunner: really? where? *look* [16:16] <netrunner> blindcoder: for the cpan thing. from giftnuss [16:16] <blindcoder> oh, nice [16:22] <netrunner> blindcoder: only no one tested them so far, feel free to do so :) [16:23] <blindcoder> will do when I'm home [16:23] <blindcoder> remind me to do so : [17:20] <netrunner> blindcoder: the dns lookup in webalizer works now? [17:22] [anders-mcafee] (~snafu@213.208.70.155) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:24] <blindcoder> netrunner: yes [17:24] <netrunner> nice :) [17:24] <blindcoder> at least with bdb41 and my patch it does [17:24] <blindcoder> but should also with other bdb's [17:24] <netrunner> blindcoder: which patch? [17:25] <blindcoder> netrunner: the one I sent to submaster, for webalizer [17:26] <netrunner> blindcoder: you only add 2 confopts ... [17:26] <blindcoder> netrunner: yes :) [17:26] <blindcoder> that patch [17:26] _Ragnar__ (loki@66-146-166-62.skyriver.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:27] <netrunner> blindcoder: ah. thought you patched webalizer for that. [17:27] Action: netrunner reading https://ezs.kr.hsnr.de/TreiberBuch/html/ [17:27] <blindcoder> no, I used to do that until I realized that it doesn't automatically check for libdb [17:27] <blindcoder> which - basically - sucks [17:28] <blindcoder> fake: btw, where's my sonar data? [17:30] <fake> blindcoder: it's stuck in my tcp/ip stack [17:31] <blindcoder> fake: then get yourself an I/O Accelerator [17:41] <netrunner> anybody can tell me how to reverse-engineer windows drivers? [17:41] <fake> netrunner: right-click the .dll and do edit with... , than look for notepad... [17:43] <blindcoder> I'd look for vim in that menu :) [17:43] <netrunner> fake: oh, hax0r1ng tools in windows? [17:44] <fake> netrunner: there is no 'general' approach to this. [17:44] <fake> netrunner: it depends on which information you are missing about a device [17:44] <netrunner> hm. I'll try to copy from a similar kernel module as much as possible. hope I am not shooting the device ;) [17:44] <fake> netrunner: what device are we talking about? [17:45] <netrunner> fake: sd card reader. [17:45] <fake> netrunner: the ricoh one attached to pcmcia? [17:46] <netrunner> fake: yup. [17:46] <daja77> fake: already seen that? https://www.spiegel.de/kultur/literatur/0,1518,342853,00.html [17:46] <netrunner> fake: wanna help? ;) [17:48] <fake> daja77: how sad... [17:49] <daja77> yes, never knew that he looked like in the movie [17:50] <fake> it took ma a bit so i relaized johnny depp is the one the right [17:50] <daja77> hehe yes [17:50] <blindcoder> never heard that name [18:09] SteffenP (steffen@pC19EA251.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [18:39] SteffenP (steffen@pC19EA251.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "https://www.bomberclone.de" [19:32] _Ragnar_ (loki@66-146-166-62.skyriver.net) joined #rocklinux. [21:41] <daja77> https://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~jahre/clt-leuchtreklame/ [21:59] <netrunner> daja77: let me guess, it was cold when you took the pics? ;) [22:00] <daja77> yes [22:00] <daja77> why? [22:00] <netrunner> daja77: some are sharp, some are .. shaky ;) [22:00] <daja77> yes because i didn'T use flash to not confuse the drivers [22:01] <netrunner> and it's 8 pics of the same object ;) [22:01] Action: netrunner stops writing his first driver for today and goes to bed [22:01] <daja77> netrunner: you can't really see on the cam display if they are shaky, so i hot some more ^^ [22:27] Nick change: _Ragnar_ -> Ragnar [22:28] Nick change: Ragnar -> _Ragnar_ [22:39] <treo> gn8 [22:42] treo (~xfman@Da550.d.pppool.de) left irc: "safe the Planet, kill yourself" [22:52] SteffenP (steffen@pC19EA251.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [23:37] SteffenP (steffen@pC19EA251.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "https://www.bomberclone.de" [00:00] --- Tue Feb 22 2005